Why would anyone draft Baker Mayfield over Sam Darnold? | THE HERD
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- Joel Klatt and Colin Cowherd talk QBs after the 2018 NFL Combine. Hear their thoughts on Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen.
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Why would anyone draft Baker Mayfield over Sam Darnold? | THE HERD
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Do you agree with Colin's mock draft?
The difference between "arrogance" and "confidence" is merely perception. It's is an external title (by definition). They're both based on truth (because if what someone is saying is untrue they're simply called a liar).
If you're calling someone arrogant, it just means you don't like them.
That said... Barkley should go 1, Cleveland should get a QB at 4... It'll likely be the one they wanted at 1 anyway.
It’s pretty bad
No
The Herd with Colin Cowherd, Colin you have becoming overwhelmingly more feminine over the last few years..
it's not that I disagree with colin it's just that you so obviously HATE baker Mayfield for no fathomable reason that is at all about his playing. it's just like how colin desperately wants lebron to go to the Lakers. it all comes across as almost bias
Klatt destroyed Colin and I'm glad
I love the way Klatt school! This man needs to be his official co-host. Check he's craziness in check 👍
Klatt is the brightest analyst in college football, furthermore, he is quick witted and funny. It is really great fun in watching him pound Colin every time he gets out of line.
Colin was salty at the end
ragerhp this the difference between an analyst(Klatt) and a personality(Colin)
The videos with Klatt are the only ones from this show I bother watching. Klatt schools Colin Blowhard every time and exposes him as the idiotic, hot take spewing hack that he is.
This video didn't age very well. Mayfield improved the worst team in the league while Darnold was a turnover machine in New York.
4 INTs in one game and no TDs lmao, bakers gone 9 and 1 In TD to INT in the last 3 games. Lamar Jackson scrambles and has no pocket passing ability, and just went 3 for 3 in the last 2 games with a better coaching situation than Baker. Baker was the best pick.
Serosis z fax
Lol gotta love it when Colin gets every top 10 pick wrong XD
Not his fault
Yup... cowherd 🤦♂️🤦♂️
I'm satisfied with how Joe Klatt destroyed Colin's mock draft
Well this clip didn’t age well at all, did it Colin?
And yet, he’s digging his heels in and can’t admit that he was wrong. Said recently that Darnold is better than Baker since Darnold is less injury prone which was ridiculous since Darnold was injured at the time and Baker wasn’t
im curious to see how he quadruples down after the bengals beatdown
As soon as I saw the headline of this video I just started cracking up. I didn’t know if Baker would be better, I actually felt like he would be despite the knock on his size, but man is this some crow that Colin has to eat!
Jimmy Mcnamara how do you figure?
Not much of what he says ages very well.
Why is no one talking about how klatt murdered Colin the second half of this video
Anyone watching this after baker lit up darnold coming in late to the game
Um you know that they were running the ball 3 and 4 quarter then wanted to pass at the end of the game
@@warrenmoore194 ... what game are you talking about?
He came in the game slinging the rock lol
nice try but the jets defense was on a short week and actually gameplanned for tyrod taylor and the playcalling from the jets coaching staff was disgraceful as it was throughout the entire season
do some research next time bud
luke b you’re complaining about the jets coaching staff when the browns staff won one game in 2 years up to that point. Ok.
It’s simple I see Joel Klatt, I click.
I'm guessing you didn't see when Shannon Sharpe shut him down then
Ricardo Garcia but that had nothing to do with sports it was pure emotion that Shannon had
These two corn bred husker grown corn balls never sniffed a football field a day in their lives...they are wrong all the damn time...
Ricardo Garcia what were they discussing?
firestrike22KTK it's simple you post this comment you beg for likes/thumbs up.
I need Joel Klatt to be a regular on here. Finally someone who can put his craziness in check. He needs it.
I gotta give to Colin. He is not afraid to get destroyed by his guests, and it happens quite often
*true*
Since returning to the NFL, the Browns didn’t have a single QB start all 16 games. Baker hasn’t missed a game since he became the starter. The most wins by a Browns QB since 1999 was Couch with 22. Baker will tie or surpass that mark in his third year. The Browns were 4-44 in the 3 previous seasons to Baker being drafted, including a winless season. Baker is about to get the Browns to the playoffs. I would say the Browns made the right decision about Mayfield.
Factual information
Really he’s the third best qb in his class 🤨🤨🤨
Lmao
Lmao
Today, November 25, 2018, is why Cleveland drafted Baker. Cowherd, you ARE full of yourself and a LEPTON!!! Smiles to Cleveland from a TEXAS girl!
TEXAS WOW EVERYTHING BIGGER IN TEXAS XD
I just had to watch this video after last night’s playoff game.
Joel Klatt owned Cowherd. Baker Mayfield is Cowherd's Achilles.
Joe Klatt is the goat idgaf what you say
Winston Lewis isn't he the one who picked bama to lose like 5 games in 2015?
He's smart.
Meanwhile the Browns are on their way to being a legit Super Bowl contender and the Jets are picking 2nd and most likely taking a QB
half right
Now Mayfield is going to the Pro Bowl and Darnold is going to the Superbowl. Weird paths these guys careers have taken lol.
2 years later. Baker has had his ups and downs but seems to be getting better. Meanwhile Darnold is in dire straights
2 years later and three different teams baker is stuck in a rutt
Baker is such a weird QB, bipolar.
Darnold who hasn’t really had a career as good as Baker outperformed him with Carolina in the time he played
I love Mayfield’s personality, seems like a natural leader
Baker Mayfield's debut... 11-20, 212yds, 2TDs
3 years later and Baker is a star. He IS infectious and the Cleveland players and fans have caught the fever.
I've got a fever and the only cure is more Baker!
@@shldnfr YESSSSIR!!
Colin just has it out for Baker he hated him for no reason
😢
Baker is making it very hard for Colin to keep his job
this gets more true every year
Can we just give Klatt the show and get rid of Collin
Eli Gammill facts
Colin is so close minded
Who’s back here after Baker torched the Jets?
here after the bengals just got embarrassed, with Hue as "special" assistant....he's special alright lol
Here after he won ROTY
Who's back after he broke the rookie record 😂
Forget the Baker Question , Why Is Kristine Single , that’s crazy
Steven Nunez lol, she is "really focused on her career right now" she's too busy to date.
cause she can't stay in her lane lol
She's a feminazi
As usual Cowherd did not guess one single draft move right.
I love how savage Joel is here and he’s right. lol.
Kristine single 👀👀
Shoot that shot! lol
Colin: That’s a YOU problem.
She not that amazing
She wears a lot of makeup just to be ok
It’s 2020 and I am sooooo glad we got Baker
😬
Never let Cowherd escape this.
The older this video is the funnier it gets.
Colin would just say that Baker had a soft schedule. And Darnolds was tougher, knowing damn well Browns had like the 3rd toughest schedule.
Hats off to Joel Klatt for saying what most of us have been saying for months. I understand you don't like Baker Mayfield's attitude Colin. We all understand that your bias towards California talent. Just give the kid some credit where credit is due. He had a 68.5 career completion percentage. Threw 131 TDs to only 30 INTs. Both Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen didn't have above 65 percent completion stats. Okay, he is not the prototypical QB that is 6'3 and above, but he has what most of these QB's don't have. Leadership capabilities. Plus. He is a winner. You can't teach that.
You're god damn right !!! Baker is a apsulute stud and is quickly turning the Cleveland browns into Americans team !! The browns lol out of all teams
Colin, you will be proved wrong. The browns got an ace.
and 2 years later he took the browns to the playoffs. i wonder what’s going on w the jets..?
@@Rustykid and won a road playoff game in Pittsburgh! Darnold is on the trade market
@@christopherwaits7852 it does kind of suck because i don’t think darnold is an awful qb by any means, he just needs a team he has good chemistry with. i would definitely take baker over him though, no contest.
Hi, This is 2021 calling. (HOT TIP: Invest in Bitcoin and face masks)
Just to say the Jets just traded Darnold to the Panthers for pocket change after a total of 13 wins in three seasons.
And Josh Rosen, well, the less said the better.
Baker just won a playoff game in a 12 win season. And yes, he has a better team now, but he also arrived at a Trainwreck 1-31 in two seasons team.
Hope you're sitting down for this, the Browns are actually good.
Colin is still claiming he was always right on every player in Sports.
"I've been more right on the Browns than any other team."
"The Browns most certainly won't make the playoffs this year. They NEED to develop their guys."
"I don't think Stefanski's going to be able to turn this franchise around without a miracle"
"Baker Mayfield is undraftable"
"Baker Mayfield can't win a playoff game"
Colin really thinks darnold is a finished project he has hes issues like turnovers and he scares me i feel like he can have a 22 td and 20 interception season
T T which is why whatever team drafts him is gonna sit him for a couple years. Like the packers did with Rodgers. Remember how bad Rodgers mechanics were?
But Darnold will throw TDs and make tons of plays. I’m not sure Baker can make throws against tight coverage. BIG 12 wide open by a mile throws? Sure. But that’s not the NFL and typically that is why big 12 QBs don’t work out.
@@omieg89 hahaha how are we now
I have no problem admitting I was wrong. Am a Browns fan and loved Baker the second I saw him live in training camp. Happy he is our franchise QB. I still think Darnold will be a good QB. But Baker will be special.
omieg89 appreciate how you admit you were wrong but you really thought he couldn’t make tight coverage throws with his accuracy and velocity?
Klatt: Colin, why do you think Denver should take Calvin Ridley?
Colin: I divorced my wife....
Because Darnold is a turnover machine.. And Baker isn't
Ethan VanderHoff ACTION JACKSON IS BETTER THAN BOTH THE CHUMPS
You have no sense of history and what projects to the NFL
Gab N Sam not so much
@@GabNSam Jackson can't even throw the ball dude.
@@bunghole47 exactly
Baker is a Gladiator playing the QB position, & he’s a Winner PERIOD
Aged like fine milk
Well this was fun to watch in December. Baker has the Browns still in playoff contention (albiet very slim chance) right before week 16, and the Jets are eliminated with Darnold. Also, Colin's mock draft was completely wrong, and Kirk Cousins went to Minnesota and Denver got Case Keenum, who just lost to Baker. This did not age well at all
Well, because baker throws touchdowns like Darnold throws interceptions.
without even trying
well how the tables have turned
Matthew Faria have they?
Joel got him on the interview question lol “everyone works hard that’s boring”.
Darnold can go throw 50 picks and Cowherd would still say he "has heart"
After 11 games, is there any question who the best quarterback of the class? This is why none of these guys really no nothing about what they're talking about. Rosen went 10 and is not close to being "Pro" ready. The Baker hate is swelling in you now. He's unarmed. Take you microphone, strike him down with all your hate. HAHA
Baker Mayfield is a apsulute stud !!
baker is the best as of now. darnold prob the worst
The 4 year rule. Imo, Baker is clearly the best. But, keep in mind that things can change. Fast.
As a Browns fan, I love looking back on this interview. And you know what makes this so much better? Realizing every single one of Colin's picks were wrong 7:46
Funny to watch this 10 months later... only thing he was close on, he had denzel ward in his top 10... The Brownies hit a home run with this draft!
It's only been one season but it could turn out to be CC's albatross forever. Imagine if Baker Mayfield plays for 10 years at a high level. Accurate, already knows NFL offense and speed, huge competitive desire to WIN and most importantly a TEAM player/leader.... experienced now.
Mayfield still living rent-free in Cowherd’s noggin.
Kristine is single? Let me get my cape
This aged well. Sam gets traded and Baker survives.
This aged so well hahah! You were happy with Baker hahaha
I would Draft Baker over Darnold
Itachi Uchiha stick to anime u weeb
jeff tuun do you understand the meaning of weeb? Lmao
I think Baker is a number 2 Qb for me I'd take Josh Allen for number one Darnold is @ 3 lamar at 4 Rosen 5. but i agree Baker is better than Darnold. Barkley should be number 1 pick and if the browns get a QB like aj in the free agency they'll have a chance to get great wr for another target and threat or shore up their defense with a db like fitzy
Itachi Uchiha yes
Martin McCormick you’re crazy lmao. Josh Rosen’s the safest bet.
I would love the Browns to get Mayfield and I have been a Browns fan since 1953.
colin got schooled on his own show
Haha I’m re watching this after baker mayfield got the browns their first win and it’s just so funny seeing all of these! Also Colin wasn’t correct at all in his mock draft 😂
It's even funnier now lol
we see how this panned out lol
4:16 Now we know how Darnold got mono
Colin doesn't like anything out of Oklahoma.
Skylar Horton so true
Skylar Horton Only 2 things come from Oklahoma......
Action Jackson AP Trent williams
Pancake Protector 4 - Star Wars Battlefront 2 I was thinking Westbrook
Baker is light years better than darnold and ima die hard jets fan
Bruno Barz Gotta give them time, although I’m obligated to agree just because I’m a browns fan.
Bruno Barz My fair opinion I think Darnold was just the one if most overhyped players to ever enter the draft, he might turn out good but all I heard all last year was how amazing Sam Darnold was.
Pilotorpheus 862 no one expected sam (one of the youngest qbs to ever start his rookie year) to have a good rookie season and to be honest it doesn't matter at all
dam had nothing to work with, whether it was coaching staff or blocking
he still showed great promise after returning from that injury but ppl like to forget about that and just look at the stats
You aren’t a jets fan then, this will be like wentz vs Prescott Everyone thought Prescott was better over one year but he’s not Sam darnild has a worst team and coaching staff he’s gonna be a great player
@Chrome2yaDomewhen Darnold got healthy at the end of the season he was the highest rated quarterback in the league over the last 4 weeks thats 25% of the season. I can attest to it as Robby Anderson helped win me 2 Fantasy titles as he was the highest scoring receiver in the league in the fantasy playoffs.... better supporting staff better oline better coaching Le'Veon Bell Jamison Crowder darnold not 21 anymore LOL you do know that Donald has the highest rated quarterback in the last 3 drafts right .... I see no reason why he can't continue the success that he had in the last 25% of the Season .... peace.. she has did you happen to catch that game real late in the season you know the shootout between Aaron Rodgers and darnold you should check it out bro
lol Colin trying to end the segment fast
Mayfield has been the best qb in this draft and I don’t think it has really been close
3rd best but close
Christian Kirk and Calvin Ridley in the top 10 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Chiefs Central Prod. That WR from lsu kills both of them easily...
Kirk is the 4th best WR and Ridley is somewhere between 8 and 10 in terms of WR
Chiefs Central Prod. Ridley will go top 10. Its dumb to laugh at that. Ridley goes to the bears
Padraig Murphy fair. I like DJ Moore, Anthony Miller, and trey quinn a lot. Still like Ridley and Kirk but I’m not as high on them. Just think both of those WR’s going top 10 is laughable
*Foolish* Demon come back to this tweet after the draft, ain’t happening.
this aged well
It is so entertaining to watch these dudes go back and forth at each other.
Watching this after Darnold threw 4 picks today
Baker is by far the best rookie its not even remotely close...Browns are really 👍
Baker: winner. Huge arm. Near Brees accuracy. Quick release. That's how (and why).
I'm humbled to be here! I been trying to humble myself since the Rose Bowl
Well Joel Klatt, you won't be mistaken for Nostradamus anytime soon
well this didn’t age well considering what just happened with the steelers 😭
If Big Ben was trunkier he wouldn't have lost
I'm so tired of people saying cousins is going to denver...he's not going there for a number of reasons one is they simply can't afford him. Secondly if he wants to win he can just sign with the vikes who can pay him way more than Denver and he has a much better chance to win there than denver.
I love these two 😂 they're so funny together
I really enjoyed this segment and I love Joel on the show, wish he was on more
I love Baker Mayfield I hope pats trade up to get him to me is the best qb in the draft
LOL thank god this will never happen. Mayfield is not even close to best QB
Derek Peluso might want to watch tape again and watch him throw at the combine again. Was a trade with him and Josh Allen for me. they'll be great NFL QB's and by far the best 2 QBs in this draft.
might be good at the combine, wont be good on Sundays. another clown comment from an Oklahoma fan
Derek Peluso LMAO! He's going to be a good qb at the next level. Definitely won't be bust like Cali boys will. btw man. I'm definitely not a Sooner and on a personal level I really hate Baker Mayfield, but when you're talking facts you can't let it be personal. Roll Tide bud.
Mayfield is super capped and everyone thinks he will be similar to Russel Wilson or Watson. Not sold on Cali kids but Luke Falk is the sleeper for sure. Cant argue bout the Tide lol
Baker Baker
Touchdown Maker!!!
Klatt teaching Colin about draft and job interviews, gold!!
all these people sleeping on baker but he's the only qb in this draft with personality like that and leadership, and even if his skill set isnt completely there yet he sure knows how to lead a team
I love how silly Colin looks now after his draft board came up!! haha! #Baker! #BoomerSooner Joel Klatt may be my new favorite guy....shout out to him! By the way he was a lot more accurate than Colin ever dreamed off...
Colin doesn't seem to understand that on a large team sport......you need an alpha dog to lead the pack. And when it comes to understanding today's game and processing speed, Baker blows them all away. And it's the NFL which stands for 'No Fu**ing LameAsses'
Ladies end Gentleman Mr Colin Cowherd. Astonishing.
I live in LA, & have followed SC & UCLA football. And, I'm an NFL fan since '57. THE issue with Josh Rosen is his injury history, & personality fit. At 5th pick, these are issues that MUST be considered. At 23rd pick, or later, teams are at a different risk level. THAT'S why I believe
some teams will have to pass on Josh Rosen, good as he is. Is he Aaron Rodgers, or is he Sam Bradford ?? And, it's true, he has a personality that's not for everyone. That's just truth, & it must be an issue for those top picks. Again, at 23rd or lower, it's less. In the final analysis, Rosen may well be Rodgers, he may be Bradford. He's NOT Trent Green. But the question of just who he will be in the NFL, haunt the teams picking in the top 5. And, that's why I still believe Josh Rosen falls to Adam Gase, et al, at # 11. They are an ideal fit for each other. If no, then BB gets his QB, at # 23. AZ will pass I believe, because they are too afraid of another fragile QB , after dealing with Palmer, & now, Bradford. -------WolfSky9
ANYONE WATCHING THIS AGAIN AFTER BAKER LED THE BROWNS TO AN 11-5 SEASON, LIT UP THE STEELERS IN THE PLAYOFFS AND SAM DARNOLD BEEN TRADED FOR A FEW PICKS? LOL Colin Cowturd is a joke.
And Cleveland kicked out Baker now lol
Colin’s take didn’t age well
Feels like it did, though.
@@romain1752 Feels like I didn't
@@bannedfromytfornoreason Nah. Baker is finally keeping his mouth shut and conforming to the way this league is supposed to be, and the way it’s been done before, and is still being done. Therefore, he’s having success. He’s been humbled.
@@romain1752 I agree he has been more humble this season he ate that pie
@@bannedfromytfornoreason He’s been horribly wrong about Darnold and Rosen that they’ll change their franchises. Truth was they couldn’t carry them like he said they would.
I love seeing brother joe come on and talk circles around Colin
Darnold is an IT machine. Baker doesn't throw many and wasn't scared to throw at the cobine.
X_Online but he wasn't scared to throw in bad weather in his pro day what's your point lol
Cowherd has been wrong SOOOO many times I like him as a person but he is terrible in his opinions. He’s my favorite guy as a person but he has and will be wrong again so manyyyy Times
Dylan Harrison in 2007 Colin said Kevin Durant would just be another wing guy in the league and laughed at him for not bench pressing 185.
Dylan Harrison Then he will just ramble about an analogy that doesn't mean anything to make you forget how wrong he was.
1. mayfield
2. rosen
3. allen
4. darnold
5. jackson
Joel Klatt saying what everyone's thinking
LOL because you want your team to become a winner. Mayfield has changed the culture in Cleveland...
Klatt roasting Cowherd. Love it
As a devout Denver fan for years there is one thing I know that John Elway loves, and that's moxie.
Lacking confidence is what helped derail Paxton Lynch and Trevor Siemian the last few years and with one of football's greats looking over your shoulder you need confidence in truckloads to succeed in Denver.
Idk if Mayfield is the best pick for the Broncos, but I wouldn't mind seeing what he could do in Blue and Orange
Well we certainly know why now. Hahaaaa Darnold is still the turnover machine he was at USC
"Everyone has Josh Rosen as #2." That tells you how much BS is being thrown around at draft time.
As an OU fan boy im VERRRRYYYY bias.. So I'll take a seat
Mayfield is the best quarterback in the draft all his faults are really minor
Damn!! Colin Cowturd was so wrong it hurts! Just read the Jets are going to move on from Darnold with a 1-13 record, while Baker is on fire with a 10-4 Browns team. .Colin was right, he's not the smartest and he doesn't know the most about sports!
Tom vs time shows the dedication needed !
Oh how I’ve missed you Joel Klatt
Darnold isn't a lock, he's going to bust. His mechanics are absolutely atrocious, and his mental capability isn't what you want from a franchise QB. The reason you'd take Mayfield over Darnold is because Mayfield is the best QB in the class, his arm is only behind Allen and maybe he's behind Lamar Jackson. He's got the mentality to cultivate a locker room. And the accuracy to be one of the top 5 in the league.
What do you mean by mental capability??
You cant call someone a bust before they played. You just sound like an idiot
jacob alterman with your logic you can't call anyone a star before they play either....guess the browns should draft you
Meaty Clackers people get called future nfl stars all the time though, so players can also be future nfl busts. just saying
U can’t call him a bust when he hasn’t played. How’s rivers mechanics? Seems to doing fine eh
Colin makes up his mind up about someone whether he likes them or not, and then every take he has on them after that is the most biased! If darnold said this Colin would praise him
Mayfield = turned Cleveland around and now looking like a play off team.
Darnold = turning over the ball looking like a rookie (still has upside)
Rosen = getting traded.
I love how sarcastic Joel gets, "He's sitting here telling America he knows better than the Giants..." lol.