Yes I appreciate that very much if it wasn't for them I would not know what this is and would probably still think it was basically saddle seat now I think whenever someone says that Big lick is like saddleseat I want to punch him in the face because it's very offensive I used to think it was like that'll see not abusive and a completely innocent sport thanks to everybody replying to my old comments I now know what it is I deleted those old comments I do not think it is non-abusive anymore I think it is the most abusive sports
Thank you for speaking out against the big lick industry. I just subscribed. I just recently learned about this horse abuse. This unnatural gait is so grotesque. I have watched several videos about this abuse & subscribed to channels that expose this & are fighting to stop this abuse.
This is pure abuse. No animal should be treated this way . I believe the animal should be taken away from them there is so many better ways to train a horse they are really smart animals . I got a professional trainer out to help me with my two horses on barrel racing I wanted to learn it with my horses but they have never done it . I didn’t use a crop or spurs . It takes time to train people and animals things slow and Steady wins the race . I taught my Qaurter horse and Off the track throughbreed to barrel race without pain and consequences that animals don’t deserve . You made a great video it is extremely sad to see these poor horses and theses abusive owners . Jesus does not want us to treat animals or people this way they are in the wrong . Thank you so much for the video. ❤️
I have been involved with horses for 18 years and have ridden some TWH, never in my life would I ever subject a horse to something like this "discipline". Big Lick is disgusting, I get angry just seeing videos or posts about this "discipline"...The riders can't ride to save their lives and most of them are way too big to be on those horses. I completely agree with you Deanna, regarding 2 year olds, they should not be doing anything like this at that age. Their legs are nowhere near developed enough for this nor is the rest of their body. I have a now 3 year old Quarter Horse that didn't start to get ridden until he was close to 3 because I didn't want him ending up injured and lame for the rest of his life. I don't even ride him incredibly hard now because he's still growing. I ride for pleasure, not competition, I have only done a handful of shows, but that was with mature lesson horses. I might compete my current horse, but that is a big maybe because I am not a big fan of the show scene. Big Lick trainers and riders only care about the ribbons and money, they don't care about the horses as they make very clear by the abuse they subject them to. I love TWH, they are such sweet souls, they don't deserve this type of treatment. I hope we can end this horrendous abuse for their sake.
I agree with you. Anyone who abuses a horse in this manner should have their horses taken away. Same with dogs! And cats! They don’t deserve the abuse for all they do for us. Hey have emotions, they feel pain, they know what love is. The dog i have now, while he is old, is my dearest friend. He saved me from breaking my neck by jumping in front of me and stopping me from falling down a flight of stairs by jumping in front of me. He wasn’t trained to do it, but he saw me start to fall and did it on his own. He literally jumped in front of me, and up into my to push me back from falling. I love him to the moon and back, he is better than most of my relatives!
There's a fellow by the name of Billy Go Boy who is on the front lines for fighting this abuse. (I urge you to like his channel) He goes to every show and is working to ban this permanently. The people in this industry are feeling the pressure, but are so ingrained in their tradition and get very defensive when challenged. Its a dying industry, but still going on.
All of this is absolutely not okay! Like you said it takes no skill, no training, everything about it is rushed, messy, they cut so many corners! And for what? A pay check? I just don't see how people can even think of abusing any sort of creature. Heck I step on a puppy's tail and I feel like the worst human being in the world! We need to stop this! Just like with horses you apply pressure to get a response, well it is time to push and push and push this discipline until they give. And though there will always be the people in their back yards doing this, the least we can do is make the whole competition part not exist anymore. #endbiglick
I just can't understand how anyone can think, looking at the horse moving how that's natural?! All of these riders look terrible. I am a beginner rider and even I know that sitting the way they are is so off balance and not even connected with their horse. What happened to being connected and working with your horse. None of these horses look like they enjoy what they are doing. Thank you and Raliegh and everyone else who is bringing this to light so we can make a change and stop this bs.
It's disgusting, The fact that this is still happening. Some people don't desserve horses. I'm from Europe, Ireland to be exact and I had no idea that this was a thing until know. I just can't understand how people can be so cruel.
And haven't you the perfect Irish name! Please Kathleen, spread this atrocity far and wide. Ireland is such a stronghold of equine knowledge and endless generations of horse husbandry. Please get them on board, educate them to this barbaric cruelty. Get them to react in any manner available. We need to destroy this torturous excuse for a sport.
The very best dressage horse and rider combo presents an athletic balanced dance between human and equine partners. A nuanced ballet of athleticism and communication. Does everyone aim for this or meet it if they do aim for this? No. But... The highest goal in the Big Lick class is to create the greatest expression of agony possible. With no redeeming qualities or goals whatsoever. The horse is left destroyed not better off from the training. WTF???
How can there exist an ASPCA (Association for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) and big lick in the SAME country/society? This abominable and sadistic torture practice needs to be soundly denounced and eradicated.
Yes! that's what bothers me why does a country that claims to be so advanced even have things like dog fighting and the big lick? I don't like any cruelty or blood sports but the way Trump goes on about it being the Greatest nation on Earth is a joke! Let's all get behind these good people and help them clean up what is in reality a very beautiful country which doesn't want or need stains like this attached to its history any more!
I found this !!! It looks like they just got enough signatures recently because I signed it yesterday and it was still open !!! secure.humanesociety.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=7581&
Politics. Senator Mike McConnell is the one stopping the passing of the P.A.S.T bill. He is referred to as a 'Trump enabler', he is a career politician who is getting kick backs from the Big Lick fraternity. This bill was stopped when Trump took power. If he is reinstated this will sit on McConnell's desk forever. I know Republicans are passionate, but if the Democrats get in there should be a fair chance this will be stopped. America needs to get their equine activists active. How can you own a horse and not want to stop this ? How can an ordinary human being think this is OK? BL'ers are united and psychotic. They believe they are world champions when no one else in the world competes against them. They believe they are doing nothing wrong. They should all be jailed.
I didn’t even believe that was a real horse at the beginning. I though some 3D CGI animator thought it would be funny to animate a horse to move like that
It’s about money! Big Lick people don’t give a damn about the horses it’s all about money. Until you get rid of Mitch McConnell, you’ll never get rid of Big Lick!! Walkers are such good horses, I’ve owned two!!!
As you said, one of the sickest things is how they keep their horses stabled all year round!! It goes against anything natural to them its torture in itself, no freedom or friendship, their vile people. Thank you for standing up for the voiceless 👍💕
@@DeannaThompsonCorby I know, they are liars, i dont know any who show that do that! and even if it were true, it would still be very wrong to do so they are missing the point! None so blind as those who don't see. Do you think this practice will ever stop?has it gone down in any popularity?🤞🤞🤞 Thank you
@@DeannaThompsonCorby Valegro, the horse in your dressage video, champion of the WORLD, yes the real one, not the one 'celebrated' by BLers, spends most of his time outdoors.
This breaks my heart💔 They don't have to do this to them. You can look at them & see they are hurting, in pain & their bodies look so tensed up. This needs to stop.😥 Their eyes tell the story.
Deanna you are awesome you can carry the words of all of us who live far away from your country but We all respect horses like you and support you with our values sorry to try to send you a message in a language which not my native one but I try to give my best for our dearest horses 😘🤠 for you from 🇫🇷
I just sent a message to the ASPCA and sent this video to them, I live in the UK so I don't know if I can call the but I want to help somehow, hopefully I can help horses in my country too if I find out about more. Hopefully those horses won't suffer for much longer
I've been watching Raleigh for a couple weeks now, but I just found your channel. I'm not an equestrian, though I have lived with horses a long time ago when I was little and I completely agree with everything you two are saying. A lot of things done in the horse industry are disgusting and should become illegal.... SHOULD BE illegal because they count as animal abuse. That is, the big lick, horse racing, rodeos, carriage rides. Also using things like whips, bits, spurs. They are causing unnecessary pain to an animal.... causing any pain to an animal is illegal in 'most' countries.
The horses are walking with so much pain and uncomfortable...... We agree with you..... We don't have it in asia..... Where do you live we would love to know..... We can start awareness about it and let's stand together against these hard hearted people
Hi Asia, I'm in Australia and we also don't really believe this sort of torture happens to horses in this day and age. Unfortunately, because of the graphic nature of any videos, people tend not to want to watch as it is too disturbing and the general consensus is, it's in America, what can we do from here? PLEASE spread the word all through Asian horse communities. Personally I think America needs to be held accountable for allowing this torture to happen for so long simply because the Southern States yearn for their 'tradition' of owning slaves and riding through their plantations on Tennessee Walking Horses, whistling 'Dixie' and flying the Confederate flag.
I hate how people say "well soring is banned so thats not biglick" like, just because its illegal doesn't mean it still doesn't happen, its like saying murder is illegal so murder never happens
OMG, I get extremely - extremely! - annoyed when people say that. In fact, I blocked so many people who support Big Lick/Padded Performance on TikTok that I don't come across them at all anymore.
Tennessee Walkers naturally have a beautiful and unique way of moving that sets them apart from other breeds. It’s hard to believe that anyone would want to tamper that by using stacks, chains and harsh chemicals. There are many things done in the name of “tradition” that should not carry on into the future.
When you went to the TWH shows that had the big lick class, did you notice if the majority of the audience was passed 50 years old? I don't know if it's just me that noticed that.
And thank you for helping fight horse abuse for profit. I have met some pretty abusive people, and many that abused animals. There are better things than harming an animal. I have seen a horse “perform” the big lick, when i was 15. I am now 58 and have been against it ever since. I also rode a walking horse that was never trained as a “big lick” horse. He was beautiful, his gaits were natural, and he was the sweetest and most adorable STALLION i have met other than an Arabian breeding stud that i rode through a pasture full of mares in season. That Arab was so attentive to me, ignoring his mares, that it was a wonder. Once i got off him and took his halter off he went to the mares, but as soon as i called him he came, put his head in the halter and let me mount to go back to that barn. Then I was allowed to remove the halter and give him treats. All the mares came up for theirs and all were well behaved. None of them acted like they had ever been harmed in any way, and all seemed highly intelligent.
The sweat pouring off the big lick horses is a dead giveaway that the horses are in pain. Walking or trotting the rail in any other discipline - the horses are barely warm but these poor horses look as though they’ve galloped two miles. 😢💔🤬
Well, I guess they have literally galloped two miles. My daughter is a gym instructor, she does crazy things with weights and puffs and sweats accordingly. She has a choice, these poor creatures live their lives with those weights nailed on. Crazy, cruel, psychotic behaviour of wealthy, FAT, Southerners, dreaming of the olde days when they could torture humans instead.
Me too. I'm guessing they tie them onto the hoof somehow, then across the wither and down to the other hoof, so when they try to put the hoof on the ground they meet resistance. Not sure, anyone else know more, please enlighten.
They don't care, people who know have had no effect. Now is the time.these people have been paying Mitch McConnell, marsha Washburn, Lamar Alexander since 1988 millions of dollars to keep it protected. The newspapers and networks are afraid as are peta and humane society. There was a law the federal agricultural was supposed to monitor but apparently that law had no teeth. Mitch McConnell is up for re-election this November but he's got big money and clout. BUT this is the issue that might bring him down. If he can't be defeated at least if the other GOP Senators voted out Mitch McConnell will not be majority leader and can't as effectively stop legislation. Now is the time to get the word out. That's what the internet is for. To get information to the public that media won't let see the light of day. Google and utube have plenty of info. Spread the word. Or Mitch McConnell will have 6 more years to take their money and continue this horror.
@@arribaficationwineho32 the Republicans are the ones taking the money, every time the Republicans get caught with their hands in the cookie jar they always say both parties are the same. Corruption is only seldom in the Democrats, they actually police each other but when Republicans get caught the other Republicans that find out say cut me in on the money, I won't say anything
This is sick! That first clip of that poor horse with the big fat guy on it is horrible. These weirdos that like to abuse these horses need to be arrested!! Also, is it just me or do these people in that arena riding those horses look creepy? Those long trench coats and those stupid-looking hats....they all look scary. That in itself should say something.
Thank you for speaking out on these horrific and disgusting practices. Horses are so near and dear to my heart that it is so incredibly painful to know that these kind and beautiful creatures are suffering at the hands of selfish people. You are an inspiration!
All animal advocates deserve recognition, because there is a lot of money involved in the exploitation of any animal. Crazy horse people make the tiger king look like a reasonable person. I recently heard about a horse that was “rescued”, but didn’t know how to pick up his feet. They would tie his leg up overnight. To teach him a lesson, I guess... I love the willingness, of the dressage video. A calm, happy tail. He looks like he loves every minute of being in that ring. It’s in the expression, in the poetry, effortless grace, and fluidity of his movement. The juxtaposition of the video on the right, of how mishandled, and straight up tortured those horses are. This is crippling them for life. You are 100% correct to keep bringing this to attention.
How utterly, preposterously ridiculous to compare this atrocity to grand prix dressage horses. In addition to all the cruelties you mentioned, according to videos I've seen, they also train the horses to not flinch from the pain of pre-show inspection of their sored pasterns... by hitting them. They get hit when they flinch, so the horse has to figure out that the only correct answer to pain in their pasterns when an inspector examines them is to remain motionless. It may be that we have to wait for the old people of this "sport" to just die off and go away ... and that the youth in this sport have just grown up with this and see nothing wrong ... but make no mistake ... many of these people are very deliberately full-on gaslighting people ... telling them that what they see is not what's really happening. It is DELIBERATE. These people know how to play this game VERY WELL, and those of us watching are flailing in how aghast we are. Believe me, they love it. Gleefully gaslighting outraged people is another facet of this. Don't doubt it for a minute.
Same was said in 1950s, then 1970s, than 1980s, and 1990s, at which point I gave up and now only go to TWH shows without the Big Lick presence, better but still questionable individuals
Wow, I said while watching this... How much gaslighting does THIS TAKE?!!! I compare these people to people who get off torturing others. To the people who REALLY EXIST in QuintonTarantino's movie HOSTEL & the creeps that go to islands for private parties. They're probably all in the same circle.
Wow i had no idea they compare themselves to grand prix dressage. Black and white in so many areas. I did not even know about this industry until I found your videos. I can tell that these videos are very hard for you to make because you look like you are very upset about this and it is a very upsetting topic. I'm very sorry that you have had to receive hate mail and stuff that is completely harassing and nasty. People are not willing to face the truth and listen to your message. It's like hiding behind a screen or msg board is enough for people to act like complete jerks. Human Decency. That's all, treat others how you want to be treated. Great points in this video. It's a completely man made and essentially destroyed animal. Would also like to mention that the Canadian Registry of the Tennessee Walking Horse says that big lick shows are not offered in Canada, only horses that are flat shod or barefoot show. There are specific rules for showing TWH's and conformation etc, which would lead me to believe that any manipulation of the horses natural form would not be acceptable.
@@DeannaThompsonCorby I hear you. I would also like to say though even though Canada is great, every place has their flaws in one way or another. I thought that it would ease your mind somewhat to know about the TWH stuff in Canada. I did not do a search the way you suggested so I'm sure there are some people trying to be, what they think is cool, but not to the degree in the US. Is there any particular reason why this is such an unknown type of 'showing' or whatever you want to call it? I had never heard about it ever and i was a heavy eq in my teens and early 20's (approx 20 years ago).
I'm about to move right in the heart of it- 20 minutes down the road from the blessed "Celebration"... PLEASE let me know what I can do. If there is a group I should be following for boots on the ground action- I want to know. This bullshit needs to end. I am planning on rescuing at least one of these poor creatures once I get on my farm. It's the very least I can do.
The big Lick has to stop! It not normal and absurd! What are people thinking to do this? Good that you make it clear for a lot of people! For as i know, here in the netherlands there a dont doing this "sport"(dis is not a sport! ) Really that people are still doing this, its crazy! OMG! How can we stop this?
It’s so incredibly sad seeing those beautiful horses being tortured like that, it makes my heart sink seeing all those people cheering, how is it possible they don’t see what we clearly see. 😢. Their poor back legs look so fragile. Just heartbreaking 💔
It is reported and reported and there is outrage and that goes away and it all happens again. It has been like this in various forms since 1970's where if you find videos from that time things were even more brutal for the horses if you could possibly imagine. America needs to act like the greatest country on earth it believes it is and put a stop to this barbaric abuse.
Are petitions we can sign to stop this! This is animal abuse. Look how their poor back end moves. It breaks my heart. I can't even imagine being so cruel to an animal. An people in that industry think it's ok, there plastic pads. OMG who are you kidding. The look in those horses eyes is terror, pain and sadness. What can we do?
Those poor horses. They look so exhausted tromping around the ring with their hunchback, off balance riders. It's like something out of a horror show. My first horse was a TWH and he was barefoot his entire life and had the most amazing, smooth gaits.
I prefer to ride with a barefoot horse (Easyboots when needed), a hackamore (Little s style), and a close contact saddle. I want the ride to be a pleasure for the horse as well as myself. And I do dressage as well as hunter/jumper classes. And yep, you can do dressage with a hackamore. And let's end big lick now. (Jan Griffiths).
I'm sorry...I have to make another comment about these riders. I used to show horses (paint and quarter horses), the riders riding the TWH are just terrible!!!!! If they truly compare themself to dressage riders, there is something wrong with them. I have never seen such horrible posture and position on a horse. Look at the riders wrists at 2:56. The man's wrists are bent and is holding the reigns so tightly. Not only is it painful to watch these horses being abused by such horrible tactics, but these riders DON'T KNOW HOW TO RIDE!!!!! It actually hurts my eyes. Oh...did I mention that a lot of these riders are fat.
These Horses Have Diesel Put On There Legs and It Hurts The Horses Legs and then They Wrap It Up and Then Diesel INBEDS there Legs and Put Hair Stuff and EVEN HAIR spray to cover Up The Scars and Wounds and Its so Sad It Makes me so sad why do this to the Poor Things and Those Men just Being all Fancy and Prob saying to People "Oh My Horse Is Fine! and Is Taken Care Of Like Royalte! No Need to Worry"!!!
THank you for showing the differences between dressage and Big Lick. To any equestrian it is obvious to us- NO comparison. THe "riders" on the TWH have the most horrific posture, balance and control of their horse. There is no horsemanship at all- the horses can barely balance on their legs.
This cruel and grotesque torture needs to be stopped. There is absolutely nothing beautiful about this (big lick) tough laws need to be enacted and enforced. Watching these poor horses trying to move in such an unnatural and obviously painful gait, makes me nauseated. The people behind this need to be charged with cruelty to animals, and then fined through the nose. Hit them hard in the pocketbook, as obviously this is all that motivates them. GREED.
There's a video on youtube of Isabelle Werth (who won pretty much everything there is to win in dressage, but I don't like her since she has openly supported hyperflexion and her horses always seem to have trouble carrying themselves and the hind legs don't move properly, so I don't think she's the best example of a grand prix rider - we have better riders with better horsemanship here, but she wins the ribbons, it's nuts). Either way, she was riding one of her, at that time I believe fairly recently, retired grand prix horses. No saddle, no spurs, no stick, no bridle, no bit - just a halter and a rope knotted onto it to act as reins. She rode all or at least some of the classic lectures of a grand prix with that horse in that minimal set up. You really don't need anything for dressage, western or even show jumping. You could do it all in just a halter. Big lick is just a sorry excuse to abuse horses.
Absolutely. Everywhere else in the World people are thinking "do we really need bits and artificial aids?" But in Tennessee certain people like the feeling abuse gives them. It's time we all got together and took those horses to safety and made sure these people never own, buy, sell or "train" another animal!
@@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws Thank you for that. I'm totally in agreement. It just seems so strange that Americans are not. If they were it would have been banned in the 1970's. It's all about, 'It's the tradition of ma daddy, n his daddy and his daddy before him, it's all about the greatness of the Confederation and singing along to 'Dixie'. It's sad, difficult to understand and beyond cruel for the horses.
No, I am sorry. Big Lick might be the most obvious and painful to watch. But throughout the entire high-class horse industry - be it showjumping, dressage, reining, racing - if extreme performance is required, extreme measures are taken. You just do not see them that often. Just look at the warm-up areas, and you will see things which seem not quite right. You always have to keep your eyes open, no matter which style the horse is ridden or driven in. If loads of money are involved, conscience always goes south. Just throwing in one name - Totilas. Sad career, sad end. And no exception.
Thank you for sharing. Can you spotlight the results of the damage done to such young horses? How long can they possibly compete before they are lame and then what happens? How badly does this damage young hip and fetlocks? These people are monsters. These horses wind up in slaughter pipelines by 4 to 5 years old.
I have been spreading awareness on my insta and and been putting up signs telling people to stop and I have seen a few of my follows also spreading awareness, x
I hate what twh have to go through ( matter of fact all of the horses in the wrong state) I ride a twh gelding and he is the sweetest horse I have met and so gentle all he needs is the right rider with strength ( he has a big canter lol ) and patience I’m so lucky to ride him
Oh god.. That's so sad to even see. You can see those poor horses using their hind legs to balance themselves and the brown horse in 3:48 - look at his leg. It looks like they're about to break from the weight.. This is so barbaric.. Even medieval torture looks kind in comparison.. Edit: Im from Germany and the first time I've heard of that gruesome torture named Big Lick was through Raleigh's video and even now I still can't believe that exists.. And there are people accepting it, supporting it.. This should be forbidden. It's animal cruelty, abuse, torture.. Horrible. Really horrible..
The idea of big lick is so absurd. TWH have this beautiful, unique, natural gait to show off, and flat shod natural gait shows are so under appreciated. Why can't people appreciate what is naturally there and not mutilate it.
You and Raleigh do a great job and I know you don't hear it enough with all the haters out there but keep it up. I have never heard about this until 3 weeks ago when I was looking for some info about TWH because a friend is getting one, your right about people not knowing about this torture that is going on so. Just a thought have you contacted PETA not sure if they are too radical I think they are but that is just seeing them on the news when they protested circus animals but it seems what ever they get behind goes in their favor.
Industries that put so much strain on literal babies need to stop, period. And this.....I don't even know what to say. If someone doesn't think this is wrong, what argument can you make to convince them? They know they're causing pain and they don't care. So disheartening to see this kind of thing still happening.
I've never seen or heard of Bick Lick. This is horrific!!!How is this legal??? It is clearly anomal abuse! I feel sick for these poor horses. These men look stupid and have to be evil to put these poor horses through this.
It gets worse because when the horse can no longer perform to their standards, they sell them at auctions where they potentially go into the slaughter pipeline. Even though the owners, etc. claim they don't sore the horses, you can see the scars in the pasterns. The reason the color of the legs are different is because of the materials they use to cover the scars, and make the coronas and pasterns look unscarred during USDA inspection.
People who support this say that the different color on their pasterns is dirt or mud. I'm like, "How could it be dirt or mud before they enter into the arena?" I don't get it, unless the horses are galloping on dirt or mud out in a pasture, but these Tennessee Walking Horses are in stalls 24/7, and having them in there for that long isn't healthy for them. There are exceptions for putting horses in stalls, like feeding them, riding lessons - during my riding lessons, something I want to get back to, the lesson horses will be in their, and after each lesson I did, they'll be outside - quarantine, and some people put them in their stalls for bed, then let them out the next day, yet, again, 24/7 is highly unnecessary.
Danke liebe Deanna, daß Sie sich son einsetzen! Es tut mir weg das zu sehen, diese Leute sollten sich schämen. Auch für die Zuschauer habe ich absolut kein Verständnis, sie sollten sich informieren, was mit den Pferden hinter den Kulissen geschieht! Ich hoffe, daß diese Art mit Tieren so umzugehn, bald ein Ende hat. Liebe Grüße
Hi Deanna, I've been following for quite some time now. I think you are wonderful and the world deserves more people like you. Even though I live in Germany, but I still try to spread the word about this abuse wherever I can. I love what you do and even how you spread the message. It goes straight to the heart and makes people think. Screaming and name calling doesn't get the point across. And no, noone in Germany has ever heard of Big Lick. If anyone would even consider doing anything like that to a horse they would be in a world of trouble. First from the first person seeing it. They'd be calling the police and Animal control. They'd get punished by the law with hefty fines. The horse would be taken, etc.
Hi Brigitte, thank you from Australia. I agree with everything you say and that would happen here if anyone so injured their horse in the name of competition. However, why doesn't America also see this? It is wonderful Deanna and folk like her are taking a stand, however why aren't the Animal Activists? The general public? The overall equine community of America? In Australia our activists almost bought our racing industry to a halt last year, it's our third largest industry. They became aware of the 'wastage', the statistics for failed racehorses being slaughtered for European tables. They also exposed trainers using drugs and cruel training methods. Those trainers were stripped of their licenses, some with a life time ban and jailed. This is a huge industry worth billions. Why can't America shut down a small, festering den of cruelty? It has to be political. Mike McConnell is a career politician. The P.A.S.T. act has sat on his deck without being brought to the Senate. Why? Because Obama actioned it, Trump illegally stopped it and it's all now about winning this election. Anyone who cares about horses should not vote Republican. Unfortunately responses to that argument are 'Democrats murder babies'...Yes, America, land of the free?
@@DeannaThompsonCorby but the world changes. People are being made aware of what is going on by people who care. Western Europe is very animal friendly. It is against the law to hurt an animal without a very good reason. This is also the reason why our horses don't get branded anymore for the last 2 years. Just like you can't keep a dog tied on a chain or just have them live their lives in a kennel. Eastern Europe is a total different story. Even though they need to fallow the law. Most of the times they don't. They are extremely cruel to any type of animal. The more people are made aware of what is going on, the faster it will change. Keep up the good work. Together we will change the mindset of those people who either don't know any better or who are uneducated that all living creatures have feeling, a heart and soul. I love what you do and even more, how you educate people. Hugs
@@suehemingway8911 Hi Sue, I think, that sooner or later things will change. And for the President.....he doesn't even have any regard and respect for human life, he sure as hell doesn't care about the animals. I could go on and on about this. But I better keep my mouth shut. If everyone does their part in opening people's eyes and show them how happy animals look.like and how precious a bond with an animal is, it will change.
@@brigittepeterson8677 I am English but live in Eastern Europe, things are improving but not quickly enough, most cruelty to horses is unintentional and due to ignorance and poverty. I am doing my best to educate the people in my area, mending their harnesses with thread rather than wire, keeping a supply of loose ring snaffles to swop for home made bits, keeping a medicine cabinet including tetanus vaccines and antibiotic shots because the nearest vet is 35 kilometres away and donating hay to people who are struggling to feed their family let alone their horse in the depths of winter. To date I have rescued 11 horses and 3 donkeys, two horses have stayed here with me permanently and I have found good homes for the others, often with other English people. I have now teamed up with the regional Ministry of Agriculture head vet who calls at my 'farm' on his way to or from work and never charges for his time. I also have eight adopted dogs!
I know they are heavily brainwashed, but how can you honestly think it's morally okay to rub caustic chemicals into a horses skin to make them step higher? The old generation doing this heinous method is beyond help. I just worry that the younger generations might not change. They are growing up thinking it's okay to do by their family. This evil practice needs more awareness. Hopefully one day this will be abolished.
It’s disgusting. I recently purchased a TWH who was used as a Big Lick rider. Not sure how long ago he showed, but his feet are/were a mess and he has hind end issues. He’s 16 years old. When I went to the barn to purchase him, they had activation chains and bottles of who knows what that was bright green with no labels….with no care at all about the torture the horse endure.
When I got mine she only 6 years old and they put gasoline and rubbing alcohol on her after they took basically a cheese grader and graded her ankles they would put it on her shes doing alot better now.
Thank you so much for yet another informative, professional video!!❤️ I am a Swedish equestrian, however been following and educated myself in this topic for a few years now . I would like to give a shout out to “ billy go boy “ also , he is going to Big lick shows , filming , Protesting , sharing information about this sick , bloody insane abusive so called “ sport “ ( lmfao , I do compare this group of insane people with a pea-**dophile ring !!!?! 😡🥵as a Swede , I can’t really do much more than sharing on my Facebook, signing everything possible and speak about it .. again, thank u for making this video and maybe do a collaboration with “ billy go boy” ?
Thanks from Australia too! Please try to educate as many people as you can to this cruelty. America must be made aware the world is watching and for whatever reason they can't see a reason to stop this abuse, we can and we will keep the pressure on them.
Why the heck hasn't this been abolished? It is clean and present abuse. These horses have no choice and that is horrific. The horses eyes tell you everything. They are terrified. This is an unnatural gait and not at all pretty. This is nothing but pain for these horses. All of that unnatural over stretching of the tendons on all of the feet.
Me and my friends brought are ropeing horses to a big lick show and we got thertend and my horse was punched and boyy let me tell you thhat man got kicked square in the chest and im not going to lie i cried i was laughing so hard !
Dressage have their own torture called rollkur. They are not tied up in stalls, that is western pleasure horses who have their heads tied up suspended overnight to tire their neck muscles. Abuse exists where money and animals is involved
Animal cruelty. I thought animal abuse was against the law. This is abuse! Awful...then the horses get sent to slaughterhouses. BS...not discipline... cruelty.
Because for reasons best known to themselves Americans seem to turn a blind eye to this abuse. I think if the Democrats can win this election there might be some hope. If Trump gets in, god help the poor horses.
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I could have been an aggressive rider,but You changed my mind.. They're just too loving.❤
To both Raleigh and you ~ ~ Thank you so, so, much for standing up for this
Yes I appreciate that very much if it wasn't for them I would not know what this is and would probably still think it was basically saddle seat now I think whenever someone says that Big lick is like saddleseat I want to punch him in the face because it's very offensive I used to think it was like that'll see not abusive and a completely innocent sport thanks to everybody replying to my old comments I now know what it is I deleted those old comments I do not think it is non-abusive anymore I think it is the most abusive sports
I have owned 3 walkers and would never even think of doing this to one of mine... They were amazing horses 🐎!!!
Thank you so, so, much for standing up for this. Big Lick is disgusting I get angry just seeing videos or posts about this.
Thank you for speaking out against the big lick industry. I just subscribed. I just recently learned about this horse abuse. This unnatural gait is so grotesque. I have watched several videos about this abuse & subscribed to channels that expose this & are fighting to stop this abuse.
This is pure abuse. No animal should be treated this way . I believe the animal should be taken away from them there is so many better ways to train a horse they are really smart animals . I got a professional trainer out to help me with my two horses on barrel racing I wanted to learn it with my horses but they have never done it . I didn’t use a crop or spurs . It takes time to train people and animals things slow and Steady wins the race . I taught my Qaurter horse and Off the track throughbreed to barrel race without pain and consequences that animals don’t deserve . You made a great video it is extremely sad to see these poor horses and theses abusive owners . Jesus does not want us to treat animals or people this way they are in the wrong . Thank you so much for the video. ❤️
I have been involved with horses for 18 years and have ridden some TWH, never in my life would I ever subject a horse to something like this "discipline". Big Lick is disgusting, I get angry just seeing videos or posts about this "discipline"...The riders can't ride to save their lives and most of them are way too big to be on those horses. I completely agree with you Deanna, regarding 2 year olds, they should not be doing anything like this at that age. Their legs are nowhere near developed enough for this nor is the rest of their body. I have a now 3 year old Quarter Horse that didn't start to get ridden until he was close to 3 because I didn't want him ending up injured and lame for the rest of his life. I don't even ride him incredibly hard now because he's still growing. I ride for pleasure, not competition, I have only done a handful of shows, but that was with mature lesson horses. I might compete my current horse, but that is a big maybe because I am not a big fan of the show scene. Big Lick trainers and riders only care about the ribbons and money, they don't care about the horses as they make very clear by the abuse they subject them to. I love TWH, they are such sweet souls, they don't deserve this type of treatment. I hope we can end this horrendous abuse for their sake.
I agree, 2 years old is way too young in any discipline.
I agree with you. Anyone who abuses a horse in this manner should have their horses taken away. Same with dogs! And cats! They don’t deserve the abuse for all they do for us. Hey have emotions, they feel pain, they know what love is. The dog i have now, while he is old, is my dearest friend. He saved me from breaking my neck by jumping in front of me and stopping me from falling down a flight of stairs by jumping in front of me. He wasn’t trained to do it, but he saw me start to fall and did it on his own. He literally jumped in front of me, and up into my to push me back from falling. I love him to the moon and back, he is better than most of my relatives!
@@sandysimon7313 I agree. I cannot understand why on earth these horses are not taken away! We all need to make as much noise as we can about this!
There's a fellow by the name of Billy Go Boy who is on the front lines for fighting this abuse. (I urge you to like his channel) He goes to every show and is working to ban this permanently. The people in this industry are feeling the pressure, but are so ingrained in their tradition and get very defensive when challenged. Its a dying industry, but still going on.
All of this is absolutely not okay! Like you said it takes no skill, no training, everything about it is rushed, messy, they cut so many corners! And for what? A pay check? I just don't see how people can even think of abusing any sort of creature. Heck I step on a puppy's tail and I feel like the worst human being in the world! We need to stop this! Just like with horses you apply pressure to get a response, well it is time to push and push and push this discipline until they give. And though there will always be the people in their back yards doing this, the least we can do is make the whole competition part not exist anymore. #endbiglick
I just can't understand how anyone can think, looking at the horse moving how that's natural?! All of these riders look terrible. I am a beginner rider and even I know that sitting the way they are is so off balance and not even connected with their horse. What happened to being connected and working with your horse. None of these horses look like they enjoy what they are doing. Thank you and Raliegh and everyone else who is bringing this to light so we can make a change and stop this bs.
It's disgusting, The fact that this is still happening. Some people don't desserve horses. I'm from Europe, Ireland to be exact and I had no idea that this was a thing until know. I just can't understand how people can be so cruel.
And haven't you the perfect Irish name! Please Kathleen, spread this atrocity far and wide. Ireland is such a stronghold of equine knowledge and endless generations of horse husbandry. Please get them on board, educate them to this barbaric cruelty. Get them to react in any manner available. We need to destroy this torturous excuse for a sport.
The very best dressage horse and rider combo presents an athletic balanced dance between human and equine partners. A nuanced ballet of athleticism and communication. Does everyone aim for this or meet it if they do aim for this? No. But... The highest goal in the Big Lick class is to create the greatest expression of agony possible. With no redeeming qualities or goals whatsoever. The horse is left destroyed not better off from the training. WTF???
I read a book about this a couple years ago. Until then I had no idea this kind of monstrous torture was even done. I can't even imagine.
Rollkur and dressage training. Abuse is rampant in dressage a.so
@@arribaficationwineho32 unfortunately true! Any system can be corrupted, but at least in principle, the basic levels of dressage are for the horse.
How can there exist an ASPCA (Association for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) and big lick in the SAME country/society? This abominable and sadistic torture practice needs to be soundly denounced and eradicated.
Yes! that's what bothers me why does a country that claims to be so advanced even have things like dog fighting and the big lick? I don't like any cruelty or blood sports but the way Trump goes on about it being the Greatest nation on Earth is a joke! Let's all get behind these good people and help them clean up what is in reality a very beautiful country which doesn't want or need stains like this attached to its history any more!
I found this !!! It looks like they just got enough signatures recently because I signed it yesterday and it was still open !!! secure.humanesociety.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=7581&
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Politics. Senator Mike McConnell is the one stopping the passing of the P.A.S.T bill. He is referred to as a 'Trump enabler', he is a career politician who is getting kick backs from the Big Lick fraternity. This bill was stopped when Trump took power. If he is reinstated this will sit on McConnell's desk forever. I know Republicans are passionate, but if the Democrats get in there should be a fair chance this will be stopped. America needs to get their equine activists active. How can you own a horse and not want to stop this ? How can an ordinary human being think this is OK? BL'ers are united and psychotic. They believe they are world champions when no one else in the world competes against them. They believe they are doing nothing wrong. They should all be jailed.
Behind you all the way
I searched "Tennessee Walker" for a reference for a model horse custom. I couldn't find a single picture of a rider without stacks.
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I didn’t even believe that was a real horse at the beginning. I though some 3D CGI animator thought it would be funny to animate a horse to move like that
So sad eh?
It’s about money! Big Lick people don’t give a damn about the horses it’s all about money. Until you get rid of Mitch McConnell, you’ll never get rid of Big Lick!! Walkers are such good horses, I’ve owned two!!!
You’re exactly right.
As you said, one of the sickest things is how they keep their horses stabled all year round!! It goes against anything natural to them its torture in itself, no freedom or friendship, their vile people. Thank you for standing up for the voiceless 👍💕
They justify keeping their horses in all day by saying that ALL show horses are kept inside 24/7 but that’s just NOT true!
@@DeannaThompsonCorby I know, they are liars, i dont know any who show that do that! and even if it were true, it would still be very wrong to do so they are missing the point! None so blind as those who don't see. Do you think this practice will ever stop?has it gone down in any popularity?🤞🤞🤞 Thank you
@@DeannaThompsonCorby Valegro, the horse in your dressage video, champion of the WORLD, yes the real one, not the one 'celebrated' by BLers, spends most of his time outdoors.
This breaks my heart💔 They don't have to do this to them. You can look at them & see they are hurting, in pain & their bodies look so tensed up. This needs to stop.😥
Their eyes tell the story.
I am just sickened every time I see this appalling abuse! WTF has a TOTAL STOP not been put to this years ago ? ! ? !
Deanna you are awesome you can carry the words of all of us who live far away from your country but We all respect horses like you and support you with our values sorry to try to send you a message in a language which not my native one but I try to give my best for our dearest horses 😘🤠 for you from 🇫🇷
Thank you both for standing up for our beautiful equines…..the stacks and chains should be illegal…..!
It's insane to me how this is even allowed
It just came to me now, but probably nobody else knows about it
I saw first time in my life
We need to share this. Most people don’t know.
I just sent a message to the ASPCA and sent this video to them, I live in the UK so I don't know if I can call the but I want to help somehow, hopefully I can help horses in my country too if I find out about more. Hopefully those horses won't suffer for much longer
It's actually not okay anywhere in any state
After seeing all this I've been looking into it and its astonishing the ignorance in their community!
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these are sadistic people given permission to do it as a sport. period. inhumane.
I've been watching Raleigh for a couple weeks now, but I just found your channel. I'm not an equestrian, though I have lived with horses a long time ago when I was little and I completely agree with everything you two are saying. A lot of things done in the horse industry are disgusting and should become illegal.... SHOULD BE illegal because they count as animal abuse. That is, the big lick, horse racing, rodeos, carriage rides. Also using things like whips, bits, spurs. They are causing unnecessary pain to an animal.... causing any pain to an animal is illegal in 'most' countries.
The horses are walking with so much pain and uncomfortable...... We agree with you..... We don't have it in asia..... Where do you live we would love to know..... We can start awareness about it and let's stand together against these hard hearted people
Hi Asia, I'm in Australia and we also don't really believe this sort of torture happens to horses in this day and age. Unfortunately, because of the graphic nature of any videos, people tend not to want to watch as it is too disturbing and the general consensus is, it's in America, what can we do from here? PLEASE spread the word all through Asian horse communities. Personally I think America needs to be held accountable for allowing this torture to happen for so long simply because the Southern States yearn for their 'tradition' of owning slaves and riding through their plantations on Tennessee Walking Horses, whistling 'Dixie' and flying the Confederate flag.
This happens in the USA - what she describes as Big Lick is animal cruelty.
I love how relaxed Valegro looks compared to the big lick horses. To me that says enough.
Agreed!
He is, they are, a joy to watch!
I hate how people say "well soring is banned so thats not biglick" like, just because its illegal doesn't mean it still doesn't happen, its like saying murder is illegal so murder never happens
OMG, I get extremely - extremely! - annoyed when people say that. In fact, I blocked so many people who support Big Lick/Padded Performance on TikTok that I don't come across them at all anymore.
Tennessee Walkers naturally have a beautiful and unique way of moving that sets them apart from other breeds. It’s hard to believe that anyone would want to tamper that by using stacks, chains and harsh chemicals.
There are many things done in the name of “tradition” that should not carry on into the future.
You are a Star Deanna...no wonder there's a song named after You! Keep up the #banthebiglick
When you went to the TWH shows that had the big lick class, did you notice if the majority of the audience was passed 50 years old? I don't know if it's just me that noticed that.
Do you think because they are more likely to remember the 'good ol' days' of unpoliced soring?
And thank you for helping fight horse abuse for profit. I have met some pretty abusive people, and many that abused animals. There are better things than harming an animal. I have seen a horse “perform” the big lick, when i was 15. I am now 58 and have been against it ever since. I also rode a walking horse that was never trained as a “big lick” horse. He was beautiful, his gaits were natural, and he was the sweetest and most adorable STALLION i have met other than an Arabian breeding stud that i rode through a pasture full of mares in season. That Arab was so attentive to me, ignoring his mares, that it was a wonder. Once i got off him and took his halter off he went to the mares, but as soon as i called him he came, put his head in the halter and let me mount to go back to that barn. Then I was allowed to remove the halter and give him treats. All the mares came up for theirs and all were well behaved. None of them acted like they had ever been harmed in any way, and all seemed highly intelligent.
The sweat pouring off the big lick horses is a dead giveaway that the horses are in pain. Walking or trotting the rail in any other discipline - the horses are barely warm but these poor horses look as though they’ve galloped two miles. 😢💔🤬
Well, I guess they have literally galloped two miles. My daughter is a gym instructor, she does crazy things with weights and puffs and sweats accordingly. She has a choice, these poor creatures live their lives with those weights nailed on. Crazy, cruel, psychotic behaviour of wealthy, FAT, Southerners, dreaming of the olde days when they could torture humans instead.
I m afraid to ask, what the heck do they do with bungee cords?
Me too. I'm guessing they tie them onto the hoof somehow, then across the wither and down to the other hoof, so when they try to put the hoof on the ground they meet resistance. Not sure, anyone else know more, please enlighten.
They don't care, people who know have had no effect. Now is the time.these people have been paying Mitch McConnell, marsha Washburn, Lamar Alexander since 1988 millions of dollars to keep it protected. The newspapers and networks are afraid as are peta and humane society. There was a law the federal agricultural was supposed to monitor but apparently that law had no teeth. Mitch McConnell is up for re-election this November but he's got big money and clout. BUT this is the issue that might bring him down. If he can't be defeated at least if the other GOP Senators voted out Mitch McConnell will not be majority leader and can't as effectively stop legislation. Now is the time to get the word out. That's what the internet is for. To get information to the public that media won't let see the light of day. Google and utube have plenty of info. Spread the word. Or Mitch McConnell will have 6 more years to take their money and continue this horror.
@@elaineluikart5459 I assumed this. The money people are paying politicians to look the other way
@@arribaficationwineho32 the Republicans are the ones taking the money, every time the Republicans get caught with their hands in the cookie jar they always say both parties are the same. Corruption is only seldom in the Democrats, they actually police each other but when Republicans get caught the other Republicans that find out say cut me in on the money, I won't say anything
Thank you
The big lick is so sick. Thank you for making this video! It makes me wonder why I breathe the same air as those people?
This is sick! That first clip of that poor horse with the big fat guy on it is horrible. These weirdos that like to abuse these horses need to be arrested!! Also, is it just me or do these people in that arena riding those horses look creepy? Those long trench coats and those stupid-looking hats....they all look scary. That in itself should say something.
Thank you for speaking out on these horrific and disgusting practices. Horses are so near and dear to my heart that it is so incredibly painful to know that these kind and beautiful creatures are suffering at the hands of selfish people. You are an inspiration!
All animal advocates deserve recognition, because there is a lot of money involved in the exploitation of any animal.
Crazy horse people make the tiger king look like a reasonable person.
I recently heard about a horse that was “rescued”, but didn’t know how to pick up his feet.
They would tie his leg up overnight. To teach him a lesson, I guess...
I love the willingness, of the dressage video. A calm, happy tail. He looks like he loves every minute of being in that ring.
It’s in the expression, in the poetry, effortless grace, and fluidity of his movement.
The juxtaposition of the video on the right, of how mishandled, and straight up tortured those horses are. This is crippling them for life.
You are 100% correct to keep bringing this to attention.
How utterly, preposterously ridiculous to compare this atrocity to grand prix dressage horses.
In addition to all the cruelties you mentioned, according to videos I've seen, they also train the horses to not flinch from the pain of pre-show inspection of their sored pasterns... by hitting them. They get hit when they flinch, so the horse has to figure out that the only correct answer to pain in their pasterns when an inspector examines them is to remain motionless.
It may be that we have to wait for the old people of this "sport" to just die off and go away ... and that the youth in this sport have just grown up with this and see nothing wrong ... but make no mistake ... many of these people are very deliberately full-on gaslighting people ... telling them that what they see is not what's really happening. It is DELIBERATE. These people know how to play this game VERY WELL, and those of us watching are flailing in how aghast we are. Believe me, they love it. Gleefully gaslighting outraged people is another facet of this. Don't doubt it for a minute.
Same was said in 1950s, then 1970s, than 1980s, and 1990s, at which point I gave up and now only go to TWH shows without the Big Lick presence, better but still questionable individuals
Wow, I said while watching this... How much gaslighting does THIS TAKE?!!! I compare these people to people who get off torturing others. To the people who REALLY EXIST in QuintonTarantino's movie HOSTEL & the creeps that go to islands for private parties. They're probably all in the same circle.
Wow i had no idea they compare themselves to grand prix dressage. Black and white in so many areas. I did not even know about this industry until I found your videos. I can tell that these videos are very hard for you to make because you look like you are very upset about this and it is a very upsetting topic. I'm very sorry that you have had to receive hate mail and stuff that is completely harassing and nasty. People are not willing to face the truth and listen to your message. It's like hiding behind a screen or msg board is enough for people to act like complete jerks. Human Decency. That's all, treat others how you want to be treated. Great points in this video. It's a completely man made and essentially destroyed animal. Would also like to mention that the Canadian Registry of the Tennessee Walking Horse says that big lick shows are not offered in Canada, only horses that are flat shod or barefoot show. There are specific rules for showing TWH's and conformation etc, which would lead me to believe that any manipulation of the horses natural form would not be acceptable.
Thank you so much. I wish the US was more like Canada in SO many ways. 😩
@@DeannaThompsonCorby I hear you. I would also like to say though even though Canada is great, every place has their flaws in one way or another. I thought that it would ease your mind somewhat to know about the TWH stuff in Canada. I did not do a search the way you suggested so I'm sure there are some people trying to be, what they think is cool, but not to the degree in the US. Is there any particular reason why this is such an unknown type of 'showing' or whatever you want to call it? I had never heard about it ever and i was a heavy eq in my teens and early 20's (approx 20 years ago).
I'm about to move right in the heart of it- 20 minutes down the road from the blessed "Celebration"... PLEASE let me know what I can do. If there is a group I should be following for boots on the ground action- I want to know. This bullshit needs to end. I am planning on rescuing at least one of these poor creatures once I get on my farm. It's the very least I can do.
The big Lick has to stop! It not normal and absurd! What are people thinking to do this?
Good that you make it clear for a lot of people! For as i know, here in the netherlands there a dont doing this "sport"(dis is not a sport! )
Really that people are still doing this, its crazy! OMG! How can we stop this?
Thanks you 🙏🏼
It’s so incredibly sad seeing those beautiful horses being tortured like that, it makes my heart sink seeing all those people cheering, how is it possible they don’t see what we clearly see. 😢. Their poor back legs look so fragile. Just heartbreaking 💔
Absolutely horrific. Aside from the tail tendons being knicked, do they doc the dock (shorten it) as well, as they seem VERY short.
Has it been reported yet? Will something be done about it?
It is reported and reported and there is outrage and that goes away and it all happens again. It has been like this in various forms since 1970's where if you find videos from that time things were even more brutal for the horses if you could possibly imagine. America needs to act like the greatest country on earth it believes it is and put a stop to this barbaric abuse.
Is there any other country that wel how can i put this, performan à big lik thing?
15:33 The way the saddle fit made me cringe so hard.
Agree, but least of that poor horses problems.
Dressage Horse: "Oh, My, need to concentrate now, but it's fun." Big Lick: "I hate this."
Are petitions we can sign to stop this! This is animal abuse. Look how their poor back end moves. It breaks my heart. I can't even imagine being so cruel to an animal. An people in that industry think it's ok, there plastic pads. OMG who are you kidding. The look in those horses eyes is terror, pain and sadness. What can we do?
Those poor horses. They look so exhausted tromping around the ring with their hunchback, off balance riders. It's like something out of a horror show. My first horse was a TWH and he was barefoot his entire life and had the most amazing, smooth gaits.
The riders look like mafiosos hunched over. They should be embarrassed. They can’t ride, obv.
I prefer to ride with a barefoot horse (Easyboots when needed), a hackamore (Little s style), and a close contact saddle. I want the ride to be a pleasure for the horse as well as myself. And I do dressage as well as hunter/jumper classes. And yep, you can do dressage with a hackamore. And let's end big lick now. (Jan Griffiths).
Pure CRUELTY. 😢😡
So inhuman.... I never knew that before... Lets start a campaign against these cowards
What do you have in mind. I'm in.
@@suehemingway8911 idk honestly
Let em walk on…but let em walk on PAIN FREE! “They can’t protest, so we do it for them” - Billy Go Boy, Fierce Advocate to end the Big Lick cruelty
I'm sorry...I have to make another comment about these riders. I used to show horses (paint and quarter horses), the riders riding the TWH are just terrible!!!!! If they truly compare themself to dressage riders, there is something wrong with them. I have never seen such horrible posture and position on a horse. Look at the riders wrists at 2:56. The man's wrists are bent and is holding the reigns so tightly. Not only is it painful to watch these horses being abused by such horrible tactics, but these riders DON'T KNOW HOW TO RIDE!!!!! It actually hurts my eyes. Oh...did I mention that a lot of these riders are fat.
These Horses Have Diesel Put On There Legs and It Hurts The Horses Legs and then They Wrap It Up and Then Diesel INBEDS there Legs and Put Hair Stuff and EVEN HAIR spray to cover Up The Scars and Wounds and Its so Sad It Makes me so sad why do this to the Poor Things and Those Men just Being all Fancy and Prob saying to People "Oh My Horse Is Fine! and Is Taken Care Of Like Royalte! No Need to Worry"!!!
I live in the netherlands, i dont think we have those things but i am gonne do resherch cause big lick isnt okee 😣😤
No it isn't and thank you very much for doing some research. What did you find?
It seriously makes me cry when I see Big Lick videos. I couldn’t tell, is that you riding in the World Cup?
😂 I wish. That’s one of the greatest Dressage competitors of all time, Charlotte Dujardin
THank you for showing the differences between dressage and Big Lick. To any equestrian it is obvious to us- NO comparison.
THe "riders" on the TWH have the most horrific posture, balance and control of their horse. There is no horsemanship at all-
the horses can barely balance on their legs.
This is absolutely horrific... thank you for calling this out. I love Raleigh and I'm happy to have found your channel 💚
Thanks for your support! 💜
This cruel and grotesque torture needs to be stopped. There is absolutely nothing beautiful about this (big lick) tough laws need to be enacted and enforced. Watching these poor horses trying to move in such an unnatural and obviously painful gait, makes me nauseated. The people behind this need to be charged with cruelty to animals, and then fined through the nose. Hit them hard in the pocketbook, as obviously this is all that motivates them. GREED.
There's a video on youtube of Isabelle Werth (who won pretty much everything there is to win in dressage, but I don't like her since she has openly supported hyperflexion and her horses always seem to have trouble carrying themselves and the hind legs don't move properly, so I don't think she's the best example of a grand prix rider - we have better riders with better horsemanship here, but she wins the ribbons, it's nuts).
Either way, she was riding one of her, at that time I believe fairly recently, retired grand prix horses. No saddle, no spurs, no stick, no bridle, no bit - just a halter and a rope knotted onto it to act as reins. She rode all or at least some of the classic lectures of a grand prix with that horse in that minimal set up.
You really don't need anything for dressage, western or even show jumping. You could do it all in just a halter.
Big lick is just a sorry excuse to abuse horses.
Here (The Netherlands) we even have a nationcup of dressage on neckrope. (not grandprix level tho but it's a start) :D
@@lisannehol That's awesome! 😍
Absolutely. Everywhere else in the World people are thinking "do we really need bits and artificial aids?" But in Tennessee certain people like the feeling abuse gives them. It's time we all got together and took those horses to safety and made sure these people never own, buy, sell or "train" another animal!
@@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws Thank you for that. I'm totally in agreement. It just seems so strange that Americans are not. If they were it would have been banned in the 1970's. It's all about, 'It's the tradition of ma daddy, n his daddy and his daddy before him, it's all about the greatness of the Confederation and singing along to 'Dixie'. It's sad, difficult to understand and beyond cruel for the horses.
No, I am sorry. Big Lick might be the most obvious and painful to watch. But throughout the entire high-class horse industry - be it showjumping, dressage, reining, racing - if extreme performance is required, extreme measures are taken. You just do not see them that often. Just look at the warm-up areas, and you will see things which seem not quite right. You always have to keep your eyes open, no matter which style the horse is ridden or driven in. If loads of money are involved, conscience always goes south. Just throwing in one name - Totilas. Sad career, sad end. And no exception.
Thank you for standing up for theses horses. I think that this should stop now!
Thank you for sharing. Can you spotlight the results of the damage done to such young horses? How long can they possibly compete before they are lame and then what happens? How badly does this damage young hip and fetlocks? These people are monsters. These horses wind up in slaughter pipelines by 4 to 5 years old.
I have been spreading awareness on my insta and and been putting up signs telling people to stop and I have seen a few of my follows also spreading awareness, x
Oh, and i absolutely HATE people who would harm a horse to get it to look fancy!
I agree with everything you said. This is just sad and selfish.
I'm surprised that there aren't more broken legs in the 'big lick' industry judging by how they flick them out before they land on the ground.
I hate what twh have to go through ( matter of fact all of the horses in the wrong state) I ride a twh gelding and he is the sweetest horse I have met and so gentle all he needs is the right rider with strength ( he has a big canter lol ) and patience I’m so lucky to ride him
Oh god.. That's so sad to even see. You can see those poor horses using their hind legs to balance themselves and the brown horse in 3:48 - look at his leg. It looks like they're about to break from the weight..
This is so barbaric.. Even medieval torture looks kind in comparison..
Edit: Im from Germany and the first time I've heard of that gruesome torture named Big Lick was through Raleigh's video and even now I still can't believe that exists.. And there are people accepting it, supporting it.. This should be forbidden. It's animal cruelty, abuse, torture.. Horrible. Really horrible..
The idea of big lick is so absurd. TWH have this beautiful, unique, natural gait to show off, and flat shod natural gait shows are so under appreciated. Why can't people appreciate what is naturally there and not mutilate it.
How should we make life hard for them?
You and Raleigh do a great job and I know you don't hear it enough with all the haters out there but keep it up. I have never heard about this until 3 weeks ago when I was looking for some info about TWH because a friend is getting one, your right about people not knowing about this torture that is going on so. Just a thought have you contacted PETA not sure if they are too radical I think they are but that is just seeing them on the news when they protested circus animals but it seems what ever they get behind goes in their favor.
Industries that put so much strain on literal babies need to stop, period. And this.....I don't even know what to say. If someone doesn't think this is wrong, what argument can you make to convince them? They know they're causing pain and they don't care. So disheartening to see this kind of thing still happening.
I've never seen or heard of Bick Lick. This is horrific!!!How is this legal??? It is clearly anomal abuse! I feel sick for these poor horses. These men look stupid and have to be evil to put these poor horses through this.
It gets worse because when the horse can no longer perform to their standards, they sell them at auctions where they potentially go into the slaughter pipeline. Even though the owners, etc. claim they don't sore the horses, you can see the scars in the pasterns. The reason the color of the legs are different is because of the materials they use to cover the scars, and make the coronas and pasterns look unscarred during USDA inspection.
People who support this say that the different color on their pasterns is dirt or mud. I'm like, "How could it be dirt or mud before they enter into the arena?" I don't get it, unless the horses are galloping on dirt or mud out in a pasture, but these Tennessee Walking Horses are in stalls 24/7, and having them in there for that long isn't healthy for them. There are exceptions for putting horses in stalls, like feeding them, riding lessons - during my riding lessons, something I want to get back to, the lesson horses will be in their, and after each lesson I did, they'll be outside - quarantine, and some people put them in their stalls for bed, then let them out the next day, yet, again, 24/7 is highly unnecessary.
Danke liebe Deanna, daß Sie sich son einsetzen! Es tut mir weg das zu sehen, diese Leute sollten sich schämen. Auch für die Zuschauer habe ich absolut kein Verständnis, sie sollten sich informieren, was mit den Pferden hinter den Kulissen geschieht! Ich hoffe, daß diese Art mit Tieren so umzugehn, bald ein Ende hat. Liebe Grüße
Hi Deanna,
I've been following for quite some time now.
I think you are wonderful and the world deserves more people like you.
Even though I live in Germany, but I still try to spread the word about this abuse wherever I can.
I love what you do and even how you spread the message. It goes straight to the heart and makes people think.
Screaming and name calling doesn't get the point across.
And no, noone in Germany has ever heard of Big Lick. If anyone would even consider doing anything like that to a horse they would be in a world of trouble. First from the first person seeing it. They'd be calling the police and Animal control. They'd get punished by the law with hefty fines. The horse would be taken, etc.
Thank you so much for the support, it means a lot to me. And I’m glad Europe is so disgusted in this barbaric crap. I wish America would wake up!
Hi Brigitte, thank you from Australia. I agree with everything you say and that would happen here if anyone so injured their horse in the name of competition. However, why doesn't America also see this? It is wonderful Deanna and folk like her are taking a stand, however why aren't the Animal Activists? The general public? The overall equine community of America? In Australia our activists almost bought our racing industry to a halt last year, it's our third largest industry. They became aware of the 'wastage', the statistics for failed racehorses being slaughtered for European tables. They also exposed trainers using drugs and cruel training methods. Those trainers were stripped of their licenses, some with a life time ban and jailed. This is a huge industry worth billions. Why can't America shut down a small, festering den of cruelty? It has to be political. Mike McConnell is a career politician. The P.A.S.T. act has sat on his deck without being brought to the Senate. Why? Because Obama actioned it, Trump illegally stopped it and it's all now about winning this election. Anyone who cares about horses should not vote Republican. Unfortunately responses to that argument are 'Democrats murder babies'...Yes, America, land of the free?
@@DeannaThompsonCorby but the world changes. People are being made aware of what is going on by people who care. Western Europe is very animal friendly. It is against the law to hurt an animal without a very good reason. This is also the reason why our horses don't get branded anymore for the last 2 years. Just like you can't keep a dog tied on a chain or just have them live their lives in a kennel. Eastern Europe is a total different story. Even though they need to fallow the law. Most of the times they don't. They are extremely cruel to any type of animal.
The more people are made aware of what is going on, the faster it will change.
Keep up the good work. Together we will change the mindset of those people who either don't know any better or who are uneducated that all living creatures have feeling, a heart and soul.
I love what you do and even more, how you educate people.
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@@suehemingway8911 Hi Sue,
I think, that sooner or later things will change. And for the President.....he doesn't even have any regard and respect for human life, he sure as hell doesn't care about the animals. I could go on and on about this. But I better keep my mouth shut.
If everyone does their part in opening people's eyes and show them how happy animals look.like and how precious a bond with an animal is, it will change.
@@brigittepeterson8677 I am English but live in Eastern Europe, things are improving but not quickly enough, most cruelty to horses is unintentional and due to ignorance and poverty. I am doing my best to educate the people in my area, mending their harnesses with thread rather than wire, keeping a supply of loose ring snaffles to swop for home made bits, keeping a medicine cabinet including tetanus vaccines and antibiotic shots because the nearest vet is 35 kilometres away and donating hay to people who are struggling to feed their family let alone their horse in the depths of winter. To date I have rescued 11 horses and 3 donkeys, two horses have stayed here with me permanently and I have found good homes for the others, often with other English people. I have now teamed up with the regional Ministry of Agriculture head vet who calls at my 'farm' on his way to or from work and never charges for his time. I also have eight adopted dogs!
I know they are heavily brainwashed, but how can you honestly think it's morally okay to rub caustic chemicals into a horses skin to make them step higher? The old generation doing this heinous method is beyond help. I just worry that the younger generations might not change. They are growing up thinking it's okay to do by their family. This evil practice needs more awareness. Hopefully one day this will be abolished.
It’s disgusting. I recently purchased a TWH who was used as a Big Lick rider. Not sure how long ago he showed, but his feet are/were a mess and he has hind end issues. He’s 16 years old. When I went to the barn to purchase him, they had activation chains and bottles of who knows what that was bright green with no labels….with no care at all about the torture the horse endure.
When I got mine she only 6 years old and they put gasoline and rubbing alcohol on her after they took basically a cheese grader and graded her ankles they would put it on her shes doing alot better now.
This is horrific. I rode as a kid from 3-15 and then as an adult some. I’ve never seen this. South Texas
It’s alive and well in the south east!
It is an excuse for abusing a poor creature. I've never seen such torture devices. My heart is truly crushed. What the actual fk!
Thank you so much for yet another informative, professional video!!❤️
I am a Swedish equestrian, however been following and educated myself in this topic for a few years now .
I would like to give a shout out to “ billy go boy “ also , he is going to Big lick shows , filming , Protesting , sharing information about this sick , bloody insane abusive so called “ sport “ ( lmfao , I do compare this group of insane people with a pea-**dophile ring !!!?! 😡🥵as a Swede , I can’t really do much more than sharing on my Facebook, signing everything possible and speak about it .. again, thank u for making this video and maybe do a collaboration with “ billy go boy” ?
Thank you so much for your support from afar! 🇸🇪
Thanks from Australia too! Please try to educate as many people as you can to this cruelty. America must be made aware the world is watching and for whatever reason they can't see a reason to stop this abuse, we can and we will keep the pressure on them.
Why the heck hasn't this been abolished? It is clean and present abuse. These horses have no choice and that is horrific. The horses eyes tell you everything. They are terrified. This is an unnatural gait and not at all pretty. This is nothing but pain for these horses. All of that unnatural over stretching of the tendons on all of the feet.
Big Lick isn't even riding or discipline, it's pure abuse and cruelty!
Me and my friends brought are ropeing horses to a big lick show and we got thertend and my horse was punched and boyy let me tell you thhat man got kicked square in the chest and im not going to lie i cried i was laughing so hard !
Is there a prerequisite for Big Lick riders to be obese?
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Why would anyone do this to those beautiful horses? That looks so painful.
I see this daily on Facebook the Tennessee walker groups. A lot of them are for sale.
Love you Deanna! Keep doing you! 🥰🥰🥰
Love you too! 💜
Tell me why dressage horses heads are tied up to walls and they pull blood from them to hold there heads down
They’re not. No one does that. Try again.
Dressage have their own torture called rollkur. They are not tied up in stalls, that is western pleasure horses who have their heads tied up suspended overnight to tire their neck muscles. Abuse exists where money and animals is involved
Also the blue tongue issue in dressage so the riders use marshmallow fluff to hide it.
Take way tack you can still do Showjumping and cross country
Animal cruelty. I thought animal abuse was against the law. This is abuse! Awful...then the horses get sent to slaughterhouses. BS...not discipline... cruelty.
Why is this still going on
Because for reasons best known to themselves Americans seem to turn a blind eye to this abuse. I think if the Democrats can win this election there might be some hope. If Trump gets in, god help the poor horses.
Thank you for standing up for this to end. You inspired me to make an awareness video about this. Love your channel ❤️
Yeah I agree. They r a class. Of their self. And yeah they should be put in the horse position
It’s not a style of riding it’s clearly animal abuse. Unconscionable!! So unnatural.