Hey guys - thanks for your patience and I'm so sorry for the delay, I had to put a lot of work into this one! Let me know your thoughts & if you wanted to check out MagellanTV go to try.magellantv.com/daniellekirsty 💜💜💜
hey danielle! ive requested this case lots of times but please cover the case of my cousin - glen corner (from south shields) he was murdered on his 16th birthday trying to protect his friend. it is so sad but i think it is so important to raise awareness of knife crime in teens. i really hope you see this!!!!!!🙏 ❤🩹
the coat thing really irritated me. an appropriate consequence would, at most, be doing a small extra chore to make up for the added errand for mom/dad-i personally would just make sure they understood and were thankful for the privilege they have to be able to get a new coat and go skiing
YEa especially when it's the kids who earned their money coz obviously she monetized her kids and she's NOTHING AND EARNED NOTHING without her cute children.
when Chad said that he just told his friends to not hang out with him anymore :( he most likely didnt see the point of making sure they were still in his life
Social skills are so important for young people, friends are such an important part of growing up, they shape your memories and how you grow. That was robbed from all of her kids and replaced with guilt and shame, she doesn't deserve kids.
I'm so confused about how she justified those actions to herself and her followers. She's literally admitting to stalling for time before she takes her child to the hospital. Why?? What?
My mother is also a narcissist. Narcissists have a thing about not providing their kids with medical care. The only reason my mother would ever take us to the doctors is because someone else told her to. Even then she'd stall as long as possible until she's satisfied that she's made us sweat for long enough. Ruby is a narcissist with extreme control issues.
My Parents adopted me and my sisters from Ukraine. My parents took parenting advice from Jodi too. We were treated the same way as Ruby treated her kids. They would also punish us for years for the smallest things, for one instance I made my mom 15 minutes late to work, and she took 45 dollars from me and made me do all my mom's chores for a whole year. When I got home they would make us sit facing the wall with hands hands interwined and siting criscross apple sauce position for hours. So many other thing. Jodi ruined our family. Before all this, being with my family was bearable. After this, me and my sisters started to hate our parents. at age 18 my parents kicked me out and kept all my money. when I called cops on them, they just used PTSD and Depression and adoption against me. They told everyone I ran away. It isnt true. I was homeless for 2 years. Finally am getting on my feet. Jodi praises parents and does everthing she can to destrong kids. ME and my sisters have nothing to do with our parents. ALSO my parents would also VIDEO us getting punished and shamed, then share it with family and friends.
My wife and I have been through 2 failed fertility treatments, a miscarriage and 20k worth of our life savings trying to start a family. It makes me sick that wastes like her get to have 6 beautiful children, just for her to abuse them, it's disgusting.
Keep your chin up it will happen. I never thought I would have children of my own. I am now the mommy of the most sweetest beautiful 6 year old boy who is the apple of my eye. I don't know what I would do without him. I'm so thankful he chose me to be his mommy. My prays are with you as you continue to try and have a baby. Much love to you both. ❤️❤️💋💋💋💋🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
The world is not fair and is horrible. I’m so sorry! I was adopted and I think it’s super amazing to give kids who may end up abused the life they deserve by adopting
I was thinking this too! She’s over here crying over a song that the principal purposely edited to not be inappropriate. And she has the audacity to say “you will pay for this” “because what you’ve done is sickening” Like WHAT she takes plenty of selfies, does she not have a mirror? Does she genuinely think she’s a great mom? Makes me so upset and sad for the children.
Russell is a hero. He was so scared and so brainwashed into thinking it was all his fault and yet he was still brave enough to get out. At 12 years old, he saved himself and his sister when no one else would. He is a HERO. All I want is for those kids to recover to the best of their ability and go on to live a peaceful, comfortable life. They deserve nothing but peace and happiness. I hope they find that some day.
the fact that Russell did more to save himself and his sister than the adults (not counting Shari bc she did try to help them too) in their lives who failed them is just sad
Especially considering the fact they hogtied him and probably beat him after he ran away the first time. He knew what would happen if he tried again, but he still did it for his sister.
The irony of her telling the principal “you are not protecting them. You are introducing them to the world!” Girl. I’m so angry not even 40 minutes through.
Its like she was terrified of her children realising how bad of a parent she is, trying to control every inch of their lives and hiding them away from the world so they don’t have enough knowledge to realise that it is not normal to be treated like that. This case makes my blood boil
I'm 44 mins in, so much has already happened and I haven't even reached half the video yet. This alone terrifies me. Especially considering this is a mother doing this to her kids
What breaks my heart is the fact that these poor kiddos were used for her own gain. She had kids simply to make herself feel better. She controlled them for the very same reason. I have several friends who can not have children due to health reasons (ovarian failure/other complications). People like this seem to reproduce like cockroaches. It's horrible, and I will never understand why. 💔
I’m extremely introverted as well, I don’t put my daughter on camera and if I do, I definitely don’t show it to the world because I’m not going to exploit her like that, I will wait until she is old enough and able to give permission before doing that sort of thing
I agree. As the mother of a girl who has recently begun menstruating, I can tell you my daughter would have been mortified if millions of people had been made aware. She didn't even want her dad to know.
Exactly I'm like has she been to the military? She not even a parent, or been successfully married. Where's her life experience to tell anyone anything.
A psychological response to a traumatic event. How could anyone think that can't or doesn't happen? It's one of the most straightforward of all disorders, with often a clear cause and effect.
The fact that they sent Chad to the abusive troubled teens camp and preferred being there over being home and he gained weight which is uncommon.That is a big flashing red flag.not to mention the LDS influence.
@@coffeecrimegal5968yes but still...and she eventually ended up at this psychologist the church send ppl to..who thought nit believing in God. Masturbation.drinkinng alcohol are sins and soul rape
Weaponizing food has always been an abuse tactic, it comes up in practically every video Danielle has done involving abused children AND adults, this absolutely abhorrent monster starving her kids should've been a major red flag!
I'm so glad the practise of depriving food as punishment is finally at a point where it's socially unacceptable. How anyone expects a hungry child to behave BETTER or focus in school on an empty stomach is beyond me.
@@cheeling794 Yeah, she wasn't trying to "protect her kid." Ruby is a sadist and she was hoping to publicly embarrass her child while also causing another person to break down. She was incensed that she couldn't accomplish hurting anyone in that interaction. Which is why she was still bringing it up months later.
Can you imagine being the girl that texted their son, then hearing them read your words on their TH-cam channel??? Then hearing them ask him if he likes you?? No wonder those poor kids kept saying they have no friends. Just one of many many thoughts about this.
There are many people, especially young teens, that desperately want any attention they can possibly get. 2m subs there are people that would kill for a shout out. Maybe you would be embarrassed, you must be a fairly normal balanced person 😂 but people are thirsty in today's world. Parched.
I wish that more people understood that Kevin, the husband, is also an abusive parent. In many of the 8 Passengers videos, he’s on board and is as sadistic as Ruby is. And then he abandons his children, completely failing to protect them. And his behavior after Ruby and Jodi were arrested… trying to have his oldest daughter Shari arrested when she went to the family home to pick up some things for her younger siblings who were being taken into foster care… the way the police responded was awesome.
Ruby was always like this. If Ruby was a completely normal and loving mom before getting involved with Jodi, it wouldn't have been so easy to convince her to literally torture her children. Ruby was always happy hurting her kids’ feelings, and identity. Jodi just encouraged the darkness that was already there.
She is an absolute monster. As someone who was raised in a foster home and was subjected to mental,physical, and sexual abuse, I absolutely understand this type of trauma these poor children are going through. All I can say is the truth always reveals itself and I'm glad that she is exactly where she belongs.
@@harrypotter-mc1sq Thank you how kind. My life is wonderful. It made me stronger and more compassionate towards others. It also helped me to be a good mother. No child deserves abuse. 💕
Something about hearing a grown man's voice break over the condition of an abused child really hits hard. I can listen to all.sorts of horrific details in these cases, but hearing the emotion he felt in that moment really drives home how horrible it was.
@@cassie1264 Even to the man mentioning that there were problems with Jodi in the past before! Which isn't surprising due to her hatred of men in general. But hearing the man describe Russel's condition damn near broke me to pieces 😭.
This is crazy, as a full-grown 38 year old woman, I’ve forgotten my own lunches at home, my jacket at work, etc. it’s ridiculous to expect so much from young children when adults are fully able to make the same mistakes. Also, the father needs to be held accountable as well. It is always HIS responsibility to keep his children safe.
I laughed about the prank. It's absolutely something siblings do. My brothers and I did things like this and we have great relationships as adults now.
I never watched 8 Passengers, I always watched concerned TH-camr's videos about the problematic parenting techniques... taking a child's bedroom away from them for 7 months and forcing them to sleep on a beanbag is bad enough to be investigated. It's honestly heartbreaking that CPS continues to fail these children when there was video recorded PROOF of what was going on before the severe abuse took place. I never would've even thought it would go this far, I (as I'm sure many others too), just thought they were an incredibly strict problematic religious household and there was no changing their perspective... I feel for all 6 children. I hope they're able to get the mental help these need and deserve and are able to move on from this.
I wanted to cry when she was talking about her 5 year old "forgetting" to pack her lunch & hopefully no one gives her food?! I wake up at night simply because my mind wont let me rest if i dont check on my kids to see if theyre covered up!!! Withholding food from a 5 year old when its your responsibility?! Horrible, horrible person!!!!
It’s so sad that she refused to bring her daughter’s lunch. Yesterday on the way to school, my little brother accidentally stepped in a puddle and soaked his shoes. So my mom went and bought him a new pair (he needed a new pair anyway) and delivered it to him at school because she didn’t want him to he uncomfortable. He’s 9. I can’t imagine letting a FIVE YEAR OLD go without FOOD…. Heartbreaking.
This! I am too afraid of having kids because I know, I literally know deep down that losing them would destroy me. I wouldn’t be able to live, I wouldn’t be able to move on. I know that if I have kids I will spend every single moment terrified for them and these people can’t even see their own children as human beings, do harm and lack any instinct to protect them. It’s so disgusting.
@FoxenASMR absolutely not! Having kids is one of the biggest joys and challenges in life...they will change you for the better...and you can change the world by the way you bring up your child 🧡
This is what I thought too! Doesn’t seem to regret abusing her children at all just that she got caught and chose to put it online for everyone to see! But Thank goodness she did choose to have this TH-cam channel because if not these poor children would most likely still be living in HER HELL of a “life”! So sad
Every single time I hear the neighbor’s 911 call it makes me cry. Thank goodness for his help and empathy. These poor kids deserve the world, one where their mother doesn’t exist.
Yes! The fact that a complete stranger is breaking up emotionally on the phone over just seeing the child and his condition while his mother cared not at all is just a wild aspect.
I'm not a big cryer but I started to tear up when I heard the neighbor's phone call. Russell is such a brave little dude! Wishing him, Eve, and the other children healing, love, and care.
He is a good man. I'm glad he called in, and I hope he has some therapy cuz seeing that would be awful and knowing you lived down the street from it would be heartbreaking.
The stuffed animal scene was heart wrenching 💔 you could see the anxiety in her daughter and just feel her pain. I’m soooo glad that little girl has a chance for a happy future.
1:35:39 Hearing that grown man getting choked up just trying to tell the 911 dispatcher about Russell’s physical condition broke me. You know it had to be bad when it’s bringing a grown man to tears so much that he can’t even get a full sentence out. And it’s made worse by hearing Russell talking in the background being totally calm, collected, and polite. He actually sounds kind of happy. I imagine he was filled with relief at finally getting help and maybe even happiness at having his suffering validated and being shown love, affection, and empathy by these neighbors. It’s the first time he’s been shown any care maybe in his whole life and certainly in the last 4 months. And he’s finally getting validation that he isn’t crazy, that what was done to him is horrifying, and that he’s not to blame for it.
She expected a 5 year old to be “responsible” for something 50% of adults haven’t mastered (the number of times I forget my lunch is scary). What else? You want your 8 year old to deliver pizzas? your 12 year old to construct a bridge? Your 16 year old to be in Congress?
Some adults clearly don’t have the ability to adult. Ruby is delusional. She needs to recognize and take ownership of her wrongdoings. She needs therapy. Do they provide therapy in prison?
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 exactly! She expects the 5 year old to manage herself as if she were a teenager! Making her own lunch, not waking her up, punishing her for leaving things at school? That's normal?
The ONLY things that come to my head to explain this are: The two adult women didn’t believe the children were just that, children. The mother insisted on her visual of “perfection.” For her kids to be their very best (in her eyes.) Control. Perhaps it got worse whenever she realized “my babies are growing up.” There’s no way in hell Ruby and Jodie could believe “if I make a mistake it’s fine but these kids need to do everything to a T.” But control makes the most sense to me, especially from Ruby. They’re HER kids anyhow. Maybe having so many kids became overwhelming. Maybe she made mistakes with her eldest, so she tried to correct it with her younger. I’m unsure, I’m just speculating based on what I know xx
My abuse started the day my dad met my stepmother from ages 7-17 but it was nowhere near what these kids had been through… there were locks on all the food cabinet and fridge/freezer but I ate at least twice a day. I can’t wrap my head around why people that have been abused become manipulative abusers themselves and then worse. They are victims that make other people suffer worse than they have. After 10 years of abuse I learned that I couldn’t trust family but I turned into a very honest person and everyone says that I’m the sweetest girl they’ve ever met. I treat my own daughter with so much love and respect, I strive to give her everything that I never got including leaving her father so that she wouldn’t grow up in an unhappy home. She loves my husband and her stepmother. But her stepmother has called me some nasty things in-front of my daughter who’s only 6. My daughter is my world and I’d stop at nothing if I thought something bad was happening to her. There’s a lot of people that aren’t meant to have children. I’m so grateful that all of the kids came out of this alive and are able to have a life they can truly love. Where they wake up in the morning and smile even after all the abuse and trauma..
Yeah, it's soooo bad. Narcissistic/abusive mothers somehow seem to get away with it way too often. My mom did a lot of these same things, or versions of them when I was growing up. For example - I was responsible for how I ate and how fat I was in a house where I had to feed myself from her kitchen stocked FULL of trash food. She wrapped me in saran wrap, put a jogging outfit over me, and put me on the trampoline to jump for 30 minutes. She removed the latter and stood there timing me...while on the phone with her friends telling them everything...AS SHE ALWAYS DID. I'm not saying "Look at me," I already had my time to recover from all of this the best I could... I'm just another example, except I lived... but I'm not really alive, to be honest. So many children have life ripped out of them and then are expected to function after literal TORTURE. I hate this planet.
seeing the kind of mentality and parenting they build up I think his mindset is that the mother takes care of the children 😅 so he doesn't even keep himself accountable
Totally agree 100%! Where the hell was he in all of this during Ruby & Jodi's horror show involving HIS KIDS 🤬!! Does he really get to walk away from this scott free no consequences???
@@TheMeloettafulthat’s exactly what I’m thinking where the f *%%£^ was rhe dad??? A real man would have demanded to see his children or call the police is she denied him
As someone who was a social worker for over 15 years, I CANNOT fathom going into that home knowing the information from the multiple vlogs and just being like “hm…things look normal here.” There was CLEAR proof that those children were being neglected and abused! This is why I left the field. Because I couldn’t stand these people who were consistently abusing and neglecting their children and then trying to get them removed but being ignored and berated by my superiors. I would push and push and push and no one would listen it was infuriating and frustrating. The system is so broken.
I know a lady that has 3 kids there’s never been a problem with her. Some one that has a bad relationship with everyone called in on her because she told the person NO about something. The worker has had her going through a lot of things that she doesn’t need. There’s no reason why they can’t close the case. She has a big dog and the caseworker doesn’t like that. She’s had people come in for months to make sure everything was okay before she had her last child. 2or3 times a week. They cleared the case 3 months ago but the caseworker will not because if she does that she will have to get a new case that she will have to work that may really be hard. Is there any thing that can be done to stop this kid of thing from happening. There’s families that need real help and can’t get it. Then there’s cases like this one that don’t need help but the caseworker doesn’t want to give up on one that she doesn’t need to do anything for. The staff needs to be taught how to do the right things for the family. This same office has let 2 cases go that they needed to do something about a few years ago. And the children were killed. I just don’t understand this kind of thing. This caseworker didn’t work for them when the children were killed. It’s the office that is part of the problem I am sure.
WHY do they warn when they're about to arrive?!! It's the same with OFSTED here in the UK (not sure what the US equivalent is) they tell the schools when they're going to come, so the schools prep all the kids and bribe them! there is no way that my kids school deserves an "outstanding" label!!
The system is very broken my kids was taken and no matter what I or the father did it was never good enough the judge told us if we was drug addicts alcoholics or me selling myself sexually or had mental health issues then she would have returned our children but because they couldn't find any of those things the judge refused to return our children and terminate our rights....like how is having a home that is clean children going to school making good grades never been punished other than time out house was as clean as could be having 4 young children and no abuse be classified as child neglect and we had an honest policy with our children cause if we lie to them that teaches them it's ok to lie and I am very against lying is also harmful if they are age appropriate for the truth.....also this happened in a county in Kentucky that has made the news many times for as what it has been called legal kidnapping and adoption because of the kick backs the county would get from the government. They even went after a lawyer because he went against them and he had to fight to get custody of his adopted daughter back because they made up lies about him as revenge for going against them.
My step kids came to me through the court system after a social worker said "there is no threat, there is just a potential for a threat" about the kids' mother's boyfriend. (What does that even mean?!) The guy wasn't even allowed around his own children because he was so abusive, but this one social worker thought it would be okay for him to move in with these kids instead. Luckily the more experienced social workers got the kids out of there, but not before the kids were horribly damaged.
The social worker that handled my FCSA case in the early 80s....she ended up literally drinking herself to death, because of the traumas she witnessed. She wanted to help every kid she encountered, and it broke her heart that she just couldn't. ....RIP, Miss Anne. You are remembered, and you were such an impact on my life.
@@stldiva76 which is so sad. Honestly I’ve heard of way too many mothers that are actually jealous of their daughters. The mom can be extremely rude and/or mean to their daughter because the daughter gets more attention, does stuff the mother wishes she had, is younger and prettier etc. it’s actually more common than I wanted to believe
@@elizabethdankert1 It’s the principle of it. Let’s use some common sense here. If she missed a day of preschool for a valid reason, it wouldn’t be an issue. The issue is using the deprivation of education as a punishment. Hell, the issue is punishing a 5 year old for not waking her own self up as if she’s a grown adult. In any case, as @silverdoe9477 said: the fact that the child was so upset about missing a single day of preschool says a lot. When your own kids are devastated about having to spend a single day alone with you, you’re probably a dogshit parent.
This! It was my first thought when she said that and I ran to the comments. My daughter loved preschool but she was always excited when she got a day off to stay home with me. Not sending her wouldn’t have been a punishment because my kid wouldn’t be devastated by the thought of having to spend a day alone with me. 🤷🏽♀️ if your kid is devastated by having to spend a single day alone with you, you probably shouldn’t be allowed to have kids.
When I was a kid my grandmother would bring me over to my aunts house (her sister) while she went to work… and every single time my aunt would lock me inside of a closet and I was made to watch my cousin play with his toys and watch tv from inside of the closet (there were little lines I could see through) while i sat there for hours in the dark… my cousin would try to slip me a toy through the closet to play with but the first time he did my aunt caught me with it and accused me of stealing it from him… I didn’t think my grandma would believe me if I told her. I was around 7 years old… but one day she was about to take me to her house and I cried and said I didn’t want to go and my grandpa could just tell that something was wrong. He didn’t know what but he knew that there was no way I was going to let them take me back there… he wound up telling my grandma from now on I would just stay with him and help him work on the trucks and Tractors he worked on everyday. Which I loved so much it was everything to me in that moment I felt like my grandpa was my hero. My grandpa died when I was 18 and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to go through. I never did tell my grandma about my aunt and what she did to me and now my grandma has dementia and it would just be cruel to bring it up now to her so the only ones who know are me, my cousin, my aunt and my husband.
1:36:29 I love that the neighbor initially answers the door so stoic and direct - he responds to Russel’s request for a favor with “well what is it?” and then IMMEDIATELY softens. Hearing a grown man choke back tears is so impactful. It tells you everything.
my mom and i literally both let out a gigantic gasp when we saw who this video is about. i am so glad youre covering this. this woman is absolutely evil, and your storytelling and clear empathy makes you such a great person to cover this story.
See how Ruby smiles when she talks about abusing her kids. Right on cue when she says the actual words of the act of abuse she dished out she smiles or laughs. She gets a rush of endorphins when re living it. So dark.
@@anastasiabeaverhausen2647that’s not the point of what OP is saying. They’re just pointing out the irony of her trying to act upset for her kids when she’s abusing them herself.
How in the ACTUAL HELL is Kevin walking around as a free man right now??? Those are his children too, not just Ruby's. He's just as responsible for what's happened to them imo.
Jodi has a past of making women break up with their SO. The man might’ve been kicked out when it got bad. I don’t fully believe it but it did happen once
sadly i think because he wasnt in the house/living with/married to Ruby, he has kinda skirted punishment because of it. I think maybe he had been like “see i left her bc i realized she was _actually_ starting to abuse them !!!” which is obviously bs bc like it was probably abuse since day one, lets be real. He absolutely deserves jail time for being complicit in Ruby’s decline into Connexions and their parenting “advice” 🙄 Like he literally was going to counseling with Ruby to Jodi, right? They sent their son to that bs Wilderness Camp that she recommended, sooooooo like. He should be in jail too ✌️😚 much agreed
Well he wasn't a part of what they were charged with so that is why he was not charged. Get it now. While I don't think he should get off scot-free, I think maybe he was a bit submissive/abused by her as well. Still he could have and should have done something to protect his children!!
I’ve been screaming about Ruby since 2017. The day Shari posted that her mother was arrested, I remember just sobbing while I was washing dishes. I was constantly waiting for the news that one of the children was dead so I was so relieved that they all survived her. Then when the details came out I actually got sick. Ruby always used food as a punishment/reward system, and there are multiple clips from the very beginning showing the littler kids being absolutely terrified and heartbroken while the older siblings comforted them and Ruby laughed. Kevin is not remotely innocent or a victim. I hope to see him get charged as well. PS: thank you for honoring Jessie’s pronouns. I’ve seen many others misgender them and I’m sure it’s unintentional but your diligence to be respectful isn’t lost on me. 💜
My parents used the denial of food very frequently. It wasn't until high school that I realized it was bad through my friends' reactions. It's given me a very hard relationship with food that I still struggle with in my mid-20s
Same here, well into my 30s. And when that tension rides your shoulders, or you hear their voice in your head... fuck it. Eat that thing you want. Go out of your way to get that thing you want to eat, even. It's okay. *You* are in control, now.
@@TrillAestheticsI struggle with the same. I just do my best to allow myself the nice things now and then, and remind myself of my own goals, now. My stepmom had her reasons and her abuses...but if I'm hungry? I eat. I don't have to be afraid of going in the pantry. I don't have to silently open the refrigerator. You're the master of your own fate now! I just try to eat slower, and ask myself if I want more in truth, or if I'm eating as fast as I can because of the old fear and paranoia and the outdated sense that I may not get to eat again for a while. You're safe now - no one can deny you food when you're hungry. And who you are and what you look like? That's up to you, and it's valid to be fat or skinny or in-between...because it's up to you, and what you want. The abusers are gone, now. I hope we all feel safer in our adult lives, and our own homes!
My parents did the same. I have 6 brothers and 1 sister and we were all starved of both food and water, we were that hungry sometimes we would steal dry weetabix and Try to eat them without leaving crumbs so we wouldn't get caught and beaten to the edge of life, locked in our rooms not allowed out for the toilet or anything.
That poor 5 year old..I'll never forget the day I forgot my work lunch I was 23 yrs old and I had a 12 hour shift ahead of me. My momma brought it to me NO QUESTIONS ASKED. She even got lost otw to my job but STILL made a point to bring it no excuses. Ruby is a shit mom from real.
I couldn’t believe that part either! I as an adult have forgotten my lunch several times, how can u expect a 5yo to never forget it?!!? Plus, the fact that she was packing the lunches herself also left a bad taste in my mouth… How can a 5yo be trusted to make themselves a wholesome healthy lunch everyday? 🤔
My son at 21 could forget his lunch and I'll give him money or take him food. Children are your responsibility 4 life especially when it comes to showing them love.
Ruby ......Well, she wasn't wrong with her assessment of herself as a person and mother when she made that speech with Jodie - that's the only truth in this whole sorry situation.
@@kayakazi7765 i hear he called the cops on his eldest daughter because she came to Rubies house to gather some belongings and be there for the children after Ruby was arrested :-( She testified against her mother in court so I guess her father took offense to that? shows you that he doesnt feel bad about what Ruby has done imo. Really disgusting and sad.
@@massivel I remember seeing something on TH-cam about this. Yeah he told her she wasn't allowed near the house or the children and accused her of stealing some things that where hers. Tbh I think he should have been charged 2 he is just as bad
This woman has the gall to say her children were suffering from "entitlement". Is losing your bedroom and being forced to sleep in a bean bag an example of their "entitlement" Ruby? Being told that nothing in the house belongs to them, being told that privacy is a privilege and not a right...or is it just another example of your sadistic abuse of your own children?
I was so scared that this case was going to end in the death of one of those poor children. I'm so glad they're being given a chance to turn their lives around and heal.
If it went on for longer it very much could have ended up that way… it was snowballing quicker and quicker and probably wouldn’t have taken long for something horrible like that to happen
@@starlinguk I have a 5 year old and teach around that age - the fact that she was waking herself up, dressing herself, and making her own lunch and breakfast is just unheard of! It's too much to ask for a kid so young
I was BAFFLED when she said the 5 year old was expected to wake up on their own, and prepare their own lunch. My 5 year old would starve, OR just dump a crap ton of candy into her lunch box and be on her merry way LOL Also, she can't even reach her clothes on her own. The stuff that's hung up in the closet I mean. And she would just put on the most random stuff.
I was livid hearing that. Most 5 year olds don’t pack their lunches. I sure as hell didn’t and the fact she had the audacity to blame her daughter for doing that and “punishing” her by letting her starve at school makes me livid.
My mom was the opposite and tried to treat me like a 5 year old when I was 18. Why don’t parents grow with their children and learn how the relationship should evolve? People are nuts 😤
A five year old who's expected to be perfect too. Adults do things like sleep in and forget lunches. A five year old just isn't capable of handling anywhere near that level of responsibility.
I can’t believe she didn’t get charges of neglect after see the first few videos of her not letting them use her bathroom or using food as a reward or not replacing a coat. The child still needed a coat. SMH people exploiting their kids is so sickening .
The lunch example was so wild to me. I think it could be a good thing to encourage your kids to have responsibility and be involved in prepping their own lunches. But as the parent, and especially a parent to a. 5 year old, it's YOUR responsibility to make sure your kid goes to school with everything they need. It's funny how she's all about "personal responsibility" until it applies to her
My roommate just walked by and saw my boyfriend watching this and said "why is he watching videos of how to put makeup on?". That made me laugh really hard.
Lmao I feel this one. I'm a 42 year old dude and I love listening to Danielle when I'm working or doing something. She's my favorite because her videos are super long and well-researched. People have asked me numerous times why I'm watching a lady do her makeup. Lol
Or she just denied everything except the things that fit into her own agenda. Sadly, sometimes really academically smart people can be unhinged. (Sorry for possible spelling mistakes, English isn't my native language.)
One time in 3rd grade I kept forgetting my lunch. Not on purpose, I just kept forgetting it on the counter. After the 3rd time, my mom said since I forgot it I wouldn’t get lunch that day. So when lunch time came, I sat in the cafeteria and didn’t eat. As I was coming back to class, my mom came up to me and gave me a slice of pizza so I could eat something. I didn’t go hungry but I learned my lesson and never forgot my lunch again. The huge difference is I was 9, not 5 and had been packing my own lunch for about a year at that point. Forcing a 5 year old to provide for themselves in that way is unrealistic and cruel.
Ya. I stopped packing my kids lunches when the continued to bring them home, leave them in bookbags going moldy. I ain't making u lunch or packing them. But they were in grades 8,9?,
The father needs to help accountable as well. He knew what was going on and he saw all the abuse. He's just as guilty. I would never let those kids go back into his care.
From the very first time he saw this thing, she had him by the nuts. These types of people will go along with the abusive spouse just to keep them. IOW, he was a weak head of the home and she absolutely knew this.
as someone who was forced into being able to feed myself by the age of 5 this is actually atrocious. not bringing your child food because she forgot and making her and hoping she starves is insane.
That's really sad, 5 year olds are still so young and don't have the mental capacity to understand how/when to make a nutritious meal, some mum's don't deserve babies
They will make sure that everyone will abuse you, through vicious gossip and only allowing you to be in contact with people who will treat you the same way.
The influence an LDS background has had on this situation can't ignored. It has so much to do with everything that occured with Ruby & Jodi. The the fact Ruby went to college only to find a husband, the fact her goal in life was to be nothing more than a wife & mother, her views on what is suggestive, the kind of place Chad was sent for his "behavior" (which was probably just normal teenage behavior), etc, etc, etc. It's also a huge reason why she went down the rabbit hole with the LDS approved therapist Jodi Hildebrandt was. It's not the sole reason for Ruby's ego & abuse but it is integral to who Ruby Franke is at her core & her belief system
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 I'm not in any way saying that those who follow the LDS church teachings are bad people. They're not. They are for the most part wonderful, kind, family oriented people but there is a certain culture & certain LDS teachings that if taken to the extreme, taken the wrong way, misconstrued, manipulated, or twisted can warp into some very detrimental & in some cases very dangerous ideologies. The fact that girls are taught that being a wife & mother is their ultimate calling is a fact. There's no need to have an outside career goal when your career goal is to be a wife & mother. That's not to say LDS women don't work but it is one reason why MLMs are so popular among the LDS. Some of the church's teachings lead certain individuals down very dark paths (think Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell, Spring Thibedoux, now Ruby Franke, etc). All I was saying was that in order to understand Ruby Franke & what she did you have to understand her LDS background & the impact it had & how it got twisted into what she became. She may have been mean & hurtful no matter what religion she was but it is true to say that without the LDS church she would never have been referred to an LDS therapist & therefore would never have met Jodi Hildebrandt. The fact that the church did not condemn or dismiss Jodi from their ranks after what she did to get her license suspended in the mid 2000s is a direct link to what we're talking about now. Without Jodi Hildebrandt & possibly other LDS therapists input I don't believe Ruby Franke would've done what she did in sending Chad away, taking his bedroom away or devolving into child abuse. She may have a personality disorder & narcissistic tendencies no matter what religion she was but her LDS background fed what was naturally occurring in her psyche
@@vannahbassett5946 I've watched several interviews with Jessi Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece. Totally worth watching. Unfortunately they went thru similar things to the Franke kids at the hands of their aunt
I've followed this story for years, but you're the first person who has gone into a lot of detail about Ruby and Kevin's relationship and growing up. Thank you for the great work as always!
I hope you keep this same energy when the roles are reversed and it’s the husband who is abusive. Women always give other women a pass, but find a way to blame the man every time. If it was the husband doin these things would you say, that mom should have protected her children. No, you would have said poor mom she’s helpless. Like no I give no sympathy to any wife or husband who allows their spouse to be abusive
@@25archivessswhy are all your comments about “roles being reversed” if thats seriously your main concern then obviously you dont care about the issue your replying to at all and just wanna speak on women for the sake of the argument its so pathetic
What kills me is CPS ignores this woman's abuse of her children but will immediately take away children from loving parents in other cases, usually if the family is BIPOC. Absolutely astounding. CPS *does not* have children's best interests in mind.
I was watching some gut wrenching stories from England where the parents had their children taken away before, but now they were sober and trying to be better, but they still had their newborn taken away, or another where the mother was very loving but single, they also took the child away. The system seems to be very backward, allowing abusers to do whatever they want, yet not giving a chance to those who are trying to better themselves and want to give their children care and love.
I can not stress enough on this lady! I am literally having break downs as my baby is not eating enough due to fever and this lady voluntarily starved her babies!! My heart is breaking into pieces
My mom told me a story about when I was a baby and she was so scared because I was so sick I couldn't even keep down a teaspoon of water. Even as an adult, she gets worried if she doesn't think I'm eating enough. This so-called mother is a monster.
@@HSMfanatic17 this is the natural instinct of a mother. Sadly you cannot be a mother just because the baby came out of your body. I have seen people desperate for one child who can be amazing parents. Sadly these people breed like crazy with zero conscience or empathy for their kids
@@HSMfanatic17I keep saying "if You’re happy seeing somebody eat that‘s love" I know there are people saying if a child doesn‘t want to eat xy meal they have to starve and it‘s bad parenting giving in on that. But I‘ll cook pasta for my child even if it would be 10 pm cause I never could leave her going to bed hungry. (Sry for mistakes, I‘m German)
Hope your baby is feeling better soon. I remember my daughter not eating properly for a few days due to illness and I was frantic. I can’t imagine not feeding her on purpose!
Also, all of the stuff around marrying quickly in Utah is very common. You grow up LDS, you find another LDS person. You get married quickly, the woman often quits college and has children. This is literally one of the most common things you’ll see in Utah. I was 19 when I got married and felt like that was a bit old. I met my husband in November and got married the following June. I’ve been married 19 years and have left the LDS faith after realizing how negatively it affected my life. I hope my kids don’t follow this path. I want them to have more time before they settle down. Unlike Ruby, I did finish college. I got my Master’s degree a few years ago and am a mental health therapist for children. I’m so thankful I did that because it helped me see things more clearly and change my life. This situation is so sad and scary!
When I was a kid my grandmother would bring me over to my aunts house (her sister) while she went to work… and every single time my aunt would lock me inside of a closet and I was made to watch my cousin play with his toys and watch tv from inside of the closet (there were little lines I could see through) while i sat there for hours in the dark… my cousin would try to slip me a toy through the closet to play with but the first time he did my aunt caught me with it and accused me of stealing it from him… I didn’t think my grandma would believe me if I told her. I was around 7 years old… but one day she was about to take me to her house and I cried and said I didn’t want to go and my grandpa could just tell that something was wrong. He didn’t know what but he knew that there was no way I was going to let them take me back there… he wound up telling my grandma from now on I would just stay with him and help him work on the trucks and Tractors he worked on everyday. Which I loved so much it was everything to me in that moment I felt like my grandpa was my hero. My grandpa died when I was 18 and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to go through. I never did tell my grandma about my aunt and what she did to me and now my grandma has dementia and it would just be cruel to bring it up now to her so the only ones who know are me, my cousin, my aunt and my husband.
And all of us. That's so wrong I've lived so many situations like this, but reading this reminded of a time I totally forgot about. When I was in one of my Foster homes. My Foster parent would wake us up early and take us to this ladies house so we'd catch our school bus from there. Well when we were dropped off it was so early we didn't eat my Foster mom only fed us once a day anyways. But the other lady said she would feed and take care of us and make sure we go out to catch the bus on time. Which was a 2 hour wait. My Foster mom dropped us off and we'd go inside then as my Foster mom left in a hurry the lady would give us a box of raisins and put us outside for 2 hours. Everyday 😂 I use to be so hungry and I've always hated raisins but some mornings those raisins tasted so good most I gave my box to my lil sister because I know if I was hungry how she felt and I hate raisins then and now
All of these things happened while millions watched and she still got away with it for so long. I hope she’s given some real justice from the other inmates .
For one, I can’t believe the dad went along with & turned a blind eye to so much abuse but escaped any punishment. Two, it’s even worse so many people gave her a platform to publicly abuse her children, supported it & found it to be a form of entertainment. Smh. Such a disgusting case.
@@edenscookinggram3900 Same it confirms there’s still good people in this world. We have to stand up for ppl who aren’t in a position to stand up for themselves.
My heart goes out for those kids. Oh little Russel, how brave he had to be to save himself and his little sister. My heart breaks for him and Eve both, and for the other kids touched by this. I hope the best for them, all the healing in the world and a better more secure future. That little boy showed a kind of love and courage few in this world ever have to face. Also the neighbor breaking down on that 911 call, I'd be in tears too :c
How did these women have MILLIONS of subscribers??? There were just so many RED FLAGS.... makes you wonder how many parents treat their kids the same way behind closed doors & think its okay
I literally just checked your page to see if there was a new upload then 10 seconds later this popped up 😂 I clicked on it so fast. Thank yooouuu. Best way to start off my Monday morning at work.
I’m so glad that the children survived! I was preparing myself to hear about how they died from the abuse. Poor babies. If Russel had not escaped it could have ended so tragically.
You are amazing Danielle. You are so respectful and it sounds weird in a way to say. But, you are so human. It’s not always that way anymore. Thank you for being vulnerable in the way that you are while covering the content you do. Love from Canada 😊❤
Disgusting how she treated her poor children, it’s like she set them up to fail so she could punish them, and she took a lot of pleasure in this, I hope she’s never allowed near them again, as for Jodie.. what a disgusting inhumane monster! Throw away the key! Well done Danielle, another great video 👏 xx
I saw some of the sentencing, I don't watch family channels so I didn't know about this until the case was all over youtuber. Thankyou for talking about this case so I understand more❤
I remember when my brother fell and needed to go to ER for stitches, my mom had just gotten outta the shower and she literally took us all to ER in a bathrobe and towel in her hair!!! She didn't care what she looked like, her son needed medical attention ASAP. My dad ended up leaving work and brought her clothes to hospital. I don't understand some people And I just need to say, using food as a punishment is settling your child up for so many issues later in life. Ugh. I understand not letting your kids eat whatever whenever they want, but to withhold meals bc you didn't do your chores?!?! No ma'am, not today Satan.
Yeah ..ok ..my mom would not get out before combing her hair and changing clothes and wouldn't even let us call the ambulance b4 changing underwear and socks...
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hey danielle!
ive requested this case lots of times but please cover the case of my cousin - glen corner (from south shields)
he was murdered on his 16th birthday trying to protect his friend. it is so sad but i think it is so important to raise awareness of knife crime in teens.
i really hope you see this!!!!!!🙏
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Toilet paper, warm coats, hygiene, and food are literally her job to provide. They are not privileges to be earned. Every child deserves these things.
the coat thing really irritated me. an appropriate consequence would, at most, be doing a small extra chore to make up for the added errand for mom/dad-i personally would just make sure they understood and were thankful for the privilege they have to be able to get a new coat and go skiing
YEa especially when it's the kids who earned their money coz obviously she monetized her kids and she's NOTHING AND EARNED NOTHING without her cute children.
@@nuyd so true
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@@technolemonadecoat thing made my mind go to the no wire hanger thing in mommy dearest lol
The poor kids saying ‘I don’t have any friends’ is heartbreaking
when Chad said that he just told his friends to not hang out with him anymore :( he most likely didnt see the point of making sure they were still in his life
It is. I'm wondering how many friends the kids lost..
her lack of response to that revelation was very telling
Social skills are so important for young people, friends are such an important part of growing up, they shape your memories and how you grow. That was robbed from all of her kids and replaced with guilt and shame, she doesn't deserve kids.
@@irishhoopers6899 Covid was bad enough for everyone, so I can't even imagine how they must've felt...
Her laughing because she’s “stalling” in taking her daughter to the ER is sickening. Cleaning the bathroom? What a monster.
I'm so confused about how she justified those actions to herself and her followers. She's literally admitting to stalling for time before she takes her child to the hospital. Why?? What?
There aren’t adequate words in the English language to accurately describe these 2 ,extreme “parenting “ to a whole new level.
That is what true sadism looks like. Taking joy and pleasure from causing or prolonging suffering.
It’s beyond bizarre behaviour esp for a mother..
My mother is also a narcissist. Narcissists have a thing about not providing their kids with medical care. The only reason my mother would ever take us to the doctors is because someone else told her to. Even then she'd stall as long as possible until she's satisfied that she's made us sweat for long enough. Ruby is a narcissist with extreme control issues.
My Parents adopted me and my sisters from Ukraine. My parents took parenting advice from Jodi too. We were treated the same way as Ruby treated her kids. They would also punish us for years for the smallest things, for one instance I made my mom 15 minutes late to work, and she took 45 dollars from me and made me do all my mom's chores for a whole year. When I got home they would make us sit facing the wall with hands hands interwined and siting criscross apple sauce position for hours. So many other thing. Jodi ruined our family. Before all this, being with my family was bearable. After this, me and my sisters started to hate our parents. at age 18 my parents kicked me out and kept all my money. when I called cops on them, they just used PTSD and Depression and adoption against me. They told everyone I ran away. It isnt true. I was homeless for 2 years. Finally am getting on my feet. Jodi praises parents and does everthing she can to destrong kids. ME and my sisters have nothing to do with our parents. ALSO my parents would also VIDEO us getting punished and shamed, then share it with family and friends.
I’m so proud of you for getting out of that situation!!! It sounds awful and I hope they’re held accountable someday. Are your sisters safe?
I’m so sorry and I hope you and your siblings are doing better now❤
I will never understand why someone would adopt/foster kids if they seem to hate them.
Well done for overcoming all these terrible events. You're strong. Don't let the bastards win!
You are a legend for overcoming all this. God bless you and your sister.
the neighbour crying on the phone, what a kind and caring man, i hope he gets everything he's ever wished for.
I had been holding it together pretty well until I heard the neighbor's voice crack and start crying.
A truly genuine man. ❤
Yes heart breaking 💔
He seriously had me in tears too. You could tell seeing that boy role his heart
That guy was heart broken, Russell went to the right stranger for sure.
My wife and I have been through 2 failed fertility treatments, a miscarriage and 20k worth of our life savings trying to start a family. It makes me sick that wastes like her get to have 6 beautiful children, just for her to abuse them, it's disgusting.
Keep your chin up it will happen. I never thought I would have children of my own. I am now the mommy of the most sweetest beautiful 6 year old boy who is the apple of my eye. I don't know what I would do without him. I'm so thankful he chose me to be his mommy. My prays are with you as you continue to try and have a baby. Much love to you both. ❤️❤️💋💋💋💋🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Best of luck you two; luck will smile at you guys soon in shaa Allah.
it costs a lot more than 20g to maintain the life of a being.
good luck!
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The world is not fair and is horrible. I’m so sorry! I was adopted and I think it’s super amazing to give kids who may end up abused the life they deserve by adopting
Have you thought of adoption?
I bet Ruby doesn’t like sleeping on a cold mat and being tied up. And no more good food in prison. Poetic justice
Indeed
Your nickname raises some red flags.
Her kids we're in a prison, it's fitting that she now is 😂
I want to like this comment but there’s 444 likes rn and I don’t wanna ruin it 😂 but well said friend
@@Thomas-li9vfI noticed also 😮
The fact that the neighbor gets choked up on the 911 call over just seeing a stranger's kid in this state but she felt nothing for her own child!
The neighbor obviously cared more about this boy than his own mother.
She was screaming that the principal didnt protect kids from a song..... lady what you did to the kids was 1000x worse then the song.
I was thinking this too! She’s over here crying over a song that the principal purposely edited to not be inappropriate. And she has the audacity to say “you will pay for this” “because what you’ve done is sickening”
Like WHAT she takes plenty of selfies, does she not have a mirror? Does she genuinely think she’s a great mom? Makes me so upset and sad for the children.
@@sandrastribling9397mirror s are very important some people seem to never self reflect 😢
Russell is a hero. He was so scared and so brainwashed into thinking it was all his fault and yet he was still brave enough to get out. At 12 years old, he saved himself and his sister when no one else would. He is a HERO. All I want is for those kids to recover to the best of their ability and go on to live a peaceful, comfortable life. They deserve nothing but peace and happiness. I hope they find that some day.
the fact that Russell did more to save himself and his sister than the adults (not counting Shari bc she did try to help them too) in their lives who failed them is just sad
Your comment convinced me to continue watching past the halfway point.
Especially considering the fact they hogtied him and probably beat him after he ran away the first time. He knew what would happen if he tried again, but he still did it for his sister.
He is! Sweet boy ❤
This was soooo hard to listen to! Poor babies😢
The irony of her telling the principal “you are not protecting them. You are introducing them to the world!” Girl. I’m so angry not even 40 minutes through.
That stood out to me too. What a delusional control freak. Her abusive 'parenting' is ruining them more than school, music & social media
Its like she was terrified of her children realising how bad of a parent she is, trying to control every inch of their lives and hiding them away from the world so they don’t have enough knowledge to realise that it is not normal to be treated like that. This case makes my blood boil
I'm 44 mins in, so much has already happened and I haven't even reached half the video yet. This alone terrifies me. Especially considering this is a mother doing this to her kids
@ash_tray Tell me about it she isn't protecting her kids or introducing them to the world!!! She's abusing them!!!
What breaks my heart is the fact that these poor kiddos were used for her own gain. She had kids simply to make herself feel better. She controlled them for the very same reason. I have several friends who can not have children due to health reasons (ovarian failure/other complications). People like this seem to reproduce like cockroaches. It's horrible, and I will never understand why. 💔
As someone who's always been introverted, forcing your kids to be on camera nearly 24/7 seems like abuse to me.
It is. Family blog channels shouldn’t be allowed. Children can’t consent to it and it’s harmful as we’ve seen time and time again.
I’m extremely introverted as well, I don’t put my daughter on camera and if I do, I definitely don’t show it to the world because I’m not going to exploit her like that, I will wait until she is old enough and able to give permission before doing that sort of thing
I agree. As the mother of a girl who has recently begun menstruating, I can tell you my daughter would have been mortified if millions of people had been made aware. She didn't even want her dad to know.
It is abuse.
Being a psychologist and not believing in PTSD is disgusting
All of it is nasty.
It also invalidates anything else she has to say.
Exactly I'm like has she been to the military? She not even a parent, or been successfully married. Where's her life experience to tell anyone anything.
A psychological response to a traumatic event. How could anyone think that can't or doesn't happen? It's one of the most straightforward of all disorders, with often a clear cause and effect.
The fact that they sent Chad to the abusive troubled teens camp and preferred being there over being home and he gained weight which is uncommon.That is a big flashing red flag.not to mention the LDS influence.
There a huge difference between the LDS & The FLDS and Jeff Warrens!
@@coffeecrimegal5968yes but still...and she eventually ended up at this psychologist the church send ppl to..who thought nit believing in God. Masturbation.drinkinng alcohol are sins and soul rape
The LDS ( Mormon Religion) did not have one thing to do with this!
@@satinbeesade1654Maybe not but i know a lot of LDS members that mistreat their children.
@@satinbeesade1654why are there so many lds abuse cases in recent years hm?
Weaponizing food has always been an abuse tactic, it comes up in practically every video Danielle has done involving abused children AND adults, this absolutely abhorrent monster starving her kids should've been a major red flag!
My mom used food as an abuse tactic... it's so fucking gross.
I'm so glad the practise of depriving food as punishment is finally at a point where it's socially unacceptable. How anyone expects a hungry child to behave BETTER or focus in school on an empty stomach is beyond me.
So gross yet these monsters are always eating
Every child deserves parents but not all parents deserve children
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@@isabelrosario4914 not every kids deserve parents if you follow every crime documents. Just oike saying all men's are bad.
I’m so glad that principal stood up to Ruby. I feel like, in large part she was crying because she didn’t get her way.
oh most definitely she was angry crying bc she couldn't control something
@@cheeling794 Yeah, she wasn't trying to "protect her kid." Ruby is a sadist and she was hoping to publicly embarrass her child while also causing another person to break down. She was incensed that she couldn't accomplish hurting anyone in that interaction. Which is why she was still bringing it up months later.
Ooh yeah definitely.. Ruby is still so childish
And everyone who continued watching this child abuse go on, are sick.
Can you imagine being the girl that texted their son, then hearing them read your words on their TH-cam channel??? Then hearing them ask him if he likes you?? No wonder those poor kids kept saying they have no friends. Just one of many many thoughts about this.
There are many people, especially young teens, that desperately want any attention they can possibly get. 2m subs there are people that would kill for a shout out. Maybe you would be embarrassed, you must be a fairly normal balanced person 😂 but people are thirsty in today's world. Parched.
Now that you mention it, Chad said that he was the one who cut off his friends, not the other way around.
Wait what!!??
I wish that more people understood that Kevin, the husband, is also an abusive parent. In many of the 8 Passengers videos, he’s on board and is as sadistic as Ruby is. And then he abandons his children, completely failing to protect them. And his behavior after Ruby and Jodi were arrested… trying to have his oldest daughter Shari arrested when she went to the family home to pick up some things for her younger siblings who were being taken into foster care… the way the police responded was awesome.
@@JordanEmede_376sounds like someone is too old to remember what being a kid is like. They want positive attention, sure. Not public embarrassment
Ruby was always like this. If Ruby was a completely normal and loving mom before getting involved with Jodi, it wouldn't have been so easy to convince her to literally torture her children. Ruby was always happy hurting her kids’ feelings, and identity. Jodi just encouraged the darkness that was already there.
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She LIVED for it.....
Yeah she was already a sadist
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How rapidly the sadism evolved when Jodi came into the picture is chilling but unfortunately more common than many think/see :/.
She is an absolute monster. As someone who was raised in a foster home and was subjected to mental,physical, and sexual abuse, I absolutely understand this type of trauma these poor children are going through. All I can say is the truth always reveals itself and I'm glad that she is exactly where she belongs.
I'm sorry you went through this. I hope life gives you nothing but great things from now on.
@@harrypotter-mc1sq Thank you how kind. My life is wonderful. It made me stronger and more compassionate towards others. It also helped me to be a good mother. No child deserves abuse. 💕
The 911 call from the neighbor will never not break my heart man
Something about hearing a grown man's voice break over the condition of an abused child really hits hard. I can listen to all.sorts of horrific details in these cases, but hearing the emotion he felt in that moment really drives home how horrible it was.
Same. The way his voice breaks when he's describing the condition the boy was in.... you can't even imagine how awful it would have been
@@cassie1264 Even to the man mentioning that there were problems with Jodi in the past before! Which isn't surprising due to her hatred of men in general. But hearing the man describe Russel's condition damn near broke me to pieces 😭.
This is crazy, as a full-grown 38 year old woman, I’ve forgotten my own lunches at home, my jacket at work, etc. it’s ridiculous to expect so much from young children when adults are fully able to make the same mistakes.
Also, the father needs to be held
accountable as well. It is always HIS responsibility to keep
his children safe.
He should be charged with neglect at the least.
She was LAUGHING about taking his bedroom away, yet he can't laugh about the prank without her threatening to do it again. She is disgusting!
Meanwhile all the other kids were laughing about it in the background and that was fine.
@@treemarie213100 right? 🤦🏼♀️
I laughed about the prank. It's absolutely something siblings do. My brothers and I did things like this and we have great relationships as adults now.
It was a mean prank to get his brother's hopes up but damn, it's not deserving of getting your bedroom taken away! That's insane.
@@katattack907 ikr!
I never watched 8 Passengers, I always watched concerned TH-camr's videos about the problematic parenting techniques... taking a child's bedroom away from them for 7 months and forcing them to sleep on a beanbag is bad enough to be investigated. It's honestly heartbreaking that CPS continues to fail these children when there was video recorded PROOF of what was going on before the severe abuse took place. I never would've even thought it would go this far, I (as I'm sure many others too), just thought they were an incredibly strict problematic religious household and there was no changing their perspective... I feel for all 6 children. I hope they're able to get the mental help these need and deserve and are able to move on from this.
I wanted to cry when she was talking about her 5 year old "forgetting" to pack her lunch & hopefully no one gives her food?! I wake up at night simply because my mind wont let me rest if i dont check on my kids to see if theyre covered up!!! Withholding food from a 5 year old when its your responsibility?! Horrible, horrible person!!!!
It’s so sad that she refused to bring her daughter’s lunch. Yesterday on the way to school, my little brother accidentally stepped in a puddle and soaked his shoes. So my mom went and bought him a new pair (he needed a new pair anyway) and delivered it to him at school because she didn’t want him to he uncomfortable. He’s 9. I can’t imagine letting a FIVE YEAR OLD go without FOOD…. Heartbreaking.
Agree with you 💯 entirely!
This! I am too afraid of having kids because I know, I literally know deep down that losing them would destroy me. I wouldn’t be able to live, I wouldn’t be able to move on. I know that if I have kids I will spend every single moment terrified for them and these people can’t even see their own children as human beings, do harm and lack any instinct to protect them. It’s so disgusting.
@gracelynwoods because you're mom is a good mom...that's what good moms do!! Thabkful for a mom like yours 🩷
@FoxenASMR absolutely not! Having kids is one of the biggest joys and challenges in life...they will change you for the better...and you can change the world by the way you bring up your child 🧡
Ruby only claimed she takes full responsibility for her CHOICES. She never mentioned taking responsibility for her ACTIONS. Utterly despicable.
Good point! She maybe regrets CHOOSING to air the abuse on TH-cam, but she doesn’t seem to regret ACTUALLY abusing her kids.
This is what I thought too! Doesn’t seem to regret abusing her children at all just that she got caught and chose to put it online for everyone to see! But Thank goodness she did choose to have this TH-cam channel because if not these poor children would most likely still be living in HER HELL of a “life”! So sad
Every single time I hear the neighbor’s 911 call it makes me cry. Thank goodness for his help and empathy. These poor kids deserve the world, one where their mother doesn’t exist.
Yes! The fact that a complete stranger is breaking up emotionally on the phone over just seeing the child and his condition while his mother cared not at all is just a wild aspect.
I'm not a big cryer but I started to tear up when I heard the neighbor's phone call. Russell is such a brave little dude! Wishing him, Eve, and the other children healing, love, and care.
I know, right!? To make a grown man cry...
The 911 call makes me emotional too! In the whole horror the call is a little hope that there are still good people out there.
He is a good man. I'm glad he called in, and I hope he has some therapy cuz seeing that would be awful and knowing you lived down the street from it would be heartbreaking.
The stuffed animal scene was heart wrenching 💔 you could see the anxiety in her daughter and just feel her pain. I’m soooo glad that little girl has a chance for a happy future.
The IRONY of Ruby telling her children that THEY are selfish and need to be humble….thats just 🤦
Whilst looking at herself in the phone as well 🤮
1:35:39
Hearing that grown man getting choked up just trying to tell the 911 dispatcher about Russell’s physical condition broke me. You know it had to be bad when it’s bringing a grown man to tears so much that he can’t even get a full sentence out.
And it’s made worse by hearing Russell talking in the background being totally calm, collected, and polite. He actually sounds kind of happy. I imagine he was filled with relief at finally getting help and maybe even happiness at having his suffering validated and being shown love, affection, and empathy by these neighbors. It’s the first time he’s been shown any care maybe in his whole life and certainly in the last 4 months. And he’s finally getting validation that he isn’t crazy, that what was done to him is horrifying, and that he’s not to blame for it.
I agree but he said he wanted to turn himself in for being a bad person.
She expected a 5 year old to be “responsible” for something 50% of adults haven’t mastered (the number of times I forget my lunch is scary). What else? You want your 8 year old to deliver pizzas? your 12 year old to construct a bridge? Your 16 year old to be in Congress?
Exactly my thoughts
Yup it’s ridiculous
Some adults clearly don’t have the ability to adult. Ruby is delusional. She needs to recognize and take ownership of her wrongdoings. She needs therapy. Do they provide therapy in prison?
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 exactly! She expects the 5 year old to manage herself as if she were a teenager! Making her own lunch, not waking her up, punishing her for leaving things at school? That's normal?
The ONLY things that come to my head to explain this are:
The two adult women didn’t believe the children were just that, children.
The mother insisted on her visual of “perfection.” For her kids to be their very best (in her eyes.)
Control. Perhaps it got worse whenever she realized “my babies are growing up.”
There’s no way in hell Ruby and Jodie could believe “if I make a mistake it’s fine but these kids need to do everything to a T.”
But control makes the most sense to me, especially from Ruby. They’re HER kids anyhow. Maybe having so many kids became overwhelming. Maybe she made mistakes with her eldest, so she tried to correct it with her younger.
I’m unsure, I’m just speculating based on what I know xx
My abuse started the day my dad met my stepmother from ages 7-17 but it was nowhere near what these kids had been through… there were locks on all the food cabinet and fridge/freezer but I ate at least twice a day. I can’t wrap my head around why people that have been abused become manipulative abusers themselves and then worse. They are victims that make other people suffer worse than they have. After 10 years of abuse I learned that I couldn’t trust family but I turned into a very honest person and everyone says that I’m the sweetest girl they’ve ever met. I treat my own daughter with so much love and respect, I strive to give her everything that I never got including leaving her father so that she wouldn’t grow up in an unhappy home. She loves my husband and her stepmother. But her stepmother has called me some nasty things in-front of my daughter who’s only 6. My daughter is my world and I’d stop at nothing if I thought something bad was happening to her. There’s a lot of people that aren’t meant to have children. I’m so grateful that all of the kids came out of this alive and are able to have a life they can truly love. Where they wake up in the morning and smile even after all the abuse and trauma..
She literally filmed herself being a horrible parent.
Yeah, it's soooo bad. Narcissistic/abusive mothers somehow seem to get away with it way too often. My mom did a lot of these same things, or versions of them when I was growing up. For example - I was responsible for how I ate and how fat I was in a house where I had to feed myself from her kitchen stocked FULL of trash food. She wrapped me in saran wrap, put a jogging outfit over me, and put me on the trampoline to jump for 30 minutes. She removed the latter and stood there timing me...while on the phone with her friends telling them everything...AS SHE ALWAYS DID. I'm not saying "Look at me," I already had my time to recover from all of this the best I could... I'm just another example, except I lived... but I'm not really alive, to be honest. So many children have life ripped out of them and then are expected to function after literal TORTURE. I hate this planet.
@@Letha-Letherr I'm so sorry to hear about the abuse you endured. I wish you so much happiness and healing😊
@@sierram5458 Thank you, love
She had millions watching her?
Scary as hell!
Still boggles my mind that she documented herself behaving this way.
The father should be arrested too for leaving the kids with those monsters. Total neglect on his part too.
seeing the kind of mentality and parenting they build up I think his mindset is that the mother takes care of the children 😅 so he doesn't even keep himself accountable
Totally agree 100%! Where the hell was he in all of this during Ruby & Jodi's horror show involving HIS KIDS 🤬!! Does he really get to walk away from this scott free no consequences???
@@TheMeloettafulthat’s exactly what I’m thinking where the f *%%£^ was rhe dad??? A real man would have demanded to see his children or call the police is she denied him
He was 100% an accomplice bc he did nothing abt it
@@TheMeloettafulnope but probably enjoying all that YT money! Alot of white men espeically get away with alot
As someone who was a social worker for over 15 years, I CANNOT fathom going into that home knowing the information from the multiple vlogs and just being like “hm…things look normal here.” There was CLEAR proof that those children were being neglected and abused! This is why I left the field. Because I couldn’t stand these people who were consistently abusing and neglecting their children and then trying to get them removed but being ignored and berated by my superiors. I would push and push and push and no one would listen it was infuriating and frustrating. The system is so broken.
I know a lady that has 3 kids there’s never been a problem with her. Some one that has a bad relationship with everyone called in on her because she told the person NO about something. The worker has had her going through a lot of things that she doesn’t need. There’s no reason why they can’t close the case. She has a big dog and the caseworker doesn’t like that. She’s had people come in for months to make sure everything was okay before she had her last child. 2or3 times a week. They cleared the case 3 months ago but the caseworker will not because if she does that she will have to get a new case that she will have to work that may really be hard. Is there any thing that can be done to stop this kid of thing from happening. There’s families that need real help and can’t get it. Then there’s cases like this one that don’t need help but the caseworker doesn’t want to give up on one that she doesn’t need to do anything for. The staff needs to be taught how to do the right things for the family. This same office has let 2 cases go that they needed to do something about a few years ago. And the children were killed. I just don’t understand this kind of thing. This caseworker didn’t work for them when the children were killed. It’s the office that is part of the problem I am sure.
WHY do they warn when they're about to arrive?!! It's the same with OFSTED here in the UK (not sure what the US equivalent is) they tell the schools when they're going to come, so the schools prep all the kids and bribe them! there is no way that my kids school deserves an "outstanding" label!!
The system is very broken my kids was taken and no matter what I or the father did it was never good enough the judge told us if we was drug addicts alcoholics or me selling myself sexually or had mental health issues then she would have returned our children but because they couldn't find any of those things the judge refused to return our children and terminate our rights....like how is having a home that is clean children going to school making good grades never been punished other than time out house was as clean as could be having 4 young children and no abuse be classified as child neglect and we had an honest policy with our children cause if we lie to them that teaches them it's ok to lie and I am very against lying is also harmful if they are age appropriate for the truth.....also this happened in a county in Kentucky that has made the news many times for as what it has been called legal kidnapping and adoption because of the kick backs the county would get from the government. They even went after a lawyer because he went against them and he had to fight to get custody of his adopted daughter back because they made up lies about him as revenge for going against them.
My step kids came to me through the court system after a social worker said "there is no threat, there is just a potential for a threat" about the kids' mother's boyfriend. (What does that even mean?!) The guy wasn't even allowed around his own children because he was so abusive, but this one social worker thought it would be okay for him to move in with these kids instead. Luckily the more experienced social workers got the kids out of there, but not before the kids were horribly damaged.
The social worker that handled my FCSA case in the early 80s....she ended up literally drinking herself to death, because of the traumas she witnessed. She wanted to help every kid she encountered, and it broke her heart that she just couldn't.
....RIP, Miss Anne. You are remembered, and you were such an impact on my life.
Threatening to cut off the head of a stuffed animal is one of the most cruel things you can do to a child…
Oh the irony in watching Ruby cry about the principal not protecting children and "introducing them to the world"....
She's upset that her daughter is getting attention. She's not the focus
@@stldiva76 which is so sad. Honestly I’ve heard of way too many mothers that are actually jealous of their daughters. The mom can be extremely rude and/or mean to their daughter because the daughter gets more attention, does stuff the mother wishes she had, is younger and prettier etc.
it’s actually more common than I wanted to believe
She was working on introducing Eve and Russell to the after world.
i wish she talked about how the oldest one testified against her mother and tried getting custody of the siblings!
Oh wow! I hope she gets custody!
I thought the son was the oldest...???
@@luvleekristyshe didn’t apparently they’re in the care of child protective services but I’m not sure if they all stayed together or not :/
@@CocoaBiancaShari is the oldest and chad is second oldest
She's an actual hero, so brave ❤
Eve being absolutely devastated over missing school, & therefore had to stay with Ruby really says it all.
its one day of preschool, she will be fine.
@@elizabethdankert1Did you watch the video??
@@elizabethdankert1
It’s the principle of it. Let’s use some common sense here. If she missed a day of preschool for a valid reason, it wouldn’t be an issue. The issue is using the deprivation of education as a punishment. Hell, the issue is punishing a 5 year old for not waking her own self up as if she’s a grown adult.
In any case, as @silverdoe9477 said: the fact that the child was so upset about missing a single day of preschool says a lot. When your own kids are devastated about having to spend a single day alone with you, you’re probably a dogshit parent.
This!
It was my first thought when she said that and I ran to the comments. My daughter loved preschool but she was always excited when she got a day off to stay home with me. Not sending her wouldn’t have been a punishment because my kid wouldn’t be devastated by the thought of having to spend a day alone with me. 🤷🏽♀️ if your kid is devastated by having to spend a single day alone with you, you probably shouldn’t be allowed to have kids.
When I was a kid my grandmother would bring me over to my aunts house (her sister) while she went to work… and every single time my aunt would lock me inside of a closet and I was made to watch my cousin play with his toys and watch tv from inside of the closet (there were little lines I could see through) while i sat there for hours in the dark… my cousin would try to slip me a toy through the closet to play with but the first time he did my aunt caught me with it and accused me of stealing it from him… I didn’t think my grandma would believe me if I told her. I was around 7 years old… but one day she was about to take me to her house and I cried and said I didn’t want to go and my grandpa could just tell that something was wrong. He didn’t know what but he knew that there was no way I was going to let them take me back there… he wound up telling my grandma from now on I would just stay with him and help him work on the trucks and Tractors he worked on everyday. Which I loved so much it was everything to me in that moment I felt like my grandpa was my hero. My grandpa died when I was 18 and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to go through. I never did tell my grandma about my aunt and what she did to me and now my grandma has dementia and it would just be cruel to bring it up now to her so the only ones who know are me, my cousin, my aunt and my husband.
1:36:29 I love that the neighbor initially answers the door so stoic and direct - he responds to Russel’s request for a favor with “well what is it?” and then IMMEDIATELY softens. Hearing a grown man choke back tears is so impactful. It tells you everything.
The sad thing is, this is happening right now to children all over the place. The only people who we hear about are the ones who get caught.
my mom and i literally both let out a gigantic gasp when we saw who this video is about. i am so glad youre covering this. this woman is absolutely evil, and your storytelling and clear empathy makes you such a great person to cover this story.
See how Ruby smiles when she talks about abusing her kids.
Right on cue when she says the actual words of the act of abuse she dished out she smiles or laughs. She gets a rush of endorphins when re living it. So dark.
It makes me sick 😱😤
"You are not protecting them! You're exposing them to the world!" Her to the teacher. The irony.
This mother is horrible, yes. But that song is WRONG for a school. Wrong,!!
@@anastasiabeaverhausen2647that’s not the point of what OP is saying. They’re just pointing out the irony of her trying to act upset for her kids when she’s abusing them herself.
How in the ACTUAL HELL is Kevin walking around as a free man right now??? Those are his children too, not just Ruby's. He's just as responsible for what's happened to them imo.
Clearly the courts don't agree.
Jodi has a past of making women break up with their SO. The man might’ve been kicked out when it got bad. I don’t fully believe it but it did happen once
@sophiacalon3463 yeah that means nothing, the children were suffering way before Jodi came along and Kevin went along with it for years
sadly i think because he wasnt in the house/living with/married to Ruby, he has kinda skirted punishment because of it. I think maybe he had been like “see i left her bc i realized she was _actually_ starting to abuse them !!!” which is obviously bs bc like it was probably abuse since day one, lets be real. He absolutely deserves jail time for being complicit in Ruby’s decline into Connexions and their parenting “advice” 🙄 Like he literally was going to counseling with Ruby to Jodi, right? They sent their son to that bs Wilderness Camp that she recommended, sooooooo like. He should be in jail too ✌️😚 much agreed
Well he wasn't a part of what they were charged with so that is why he was not charged. Get it now. While I don't think he should get off scot-free, I think maybe he was a bit submissive/abused by her as well. Still he could have and should have done something to protect his children!!
I’ve been screaming about Ruby since 2017. The day Shari posted that her mother was arrested, I remember just sobbing while I was washing dishes. I was constantly waiting for the news that one of the children was dead so I was so relieved that they all survived her. Then when the details came out I actually got sick. Ruby always used food as a punishment/reward system, and there are multiple clips from the very beginning showing the littler kids being absolutely terrified and heartbroken while the older siblings comforted them and Ruby laughed. Kevin is not remotely innocent or a victim. I hope to see him get charged as well.
PS: thank you for honoring Jessie’s pronouns. I’ve seen many others misgender them and I’m sure it’s unintentional but your diligence to be respectful isn’t lost on me. 💜
You’re such a kind soul.
My parents used the denial of food very frequently. It wasn't until high school that I realized it was bad through my friends' reactions. It's given me a very hard relationship with food that I still struggle with in my mid-20s
My mom would do the same to my brothers and me. Now I cope by overeating
Same here, well into my 30s. And when that tension rides your shoulders, or you hear their voice in your head... fuck it. Eat that thing you want. Go out of your way to get that thing you want to eat, even. It's okay. *You* are in control, now.
@@TrillAestheticsI struggle with the same. I just do my best to allow myself the nice things now and then, and remind myself of my own goals, now. My stepmom had her reasons and her abuses...but if I'm hungry? I eat. I don't have to be afraid of going in the pantry. I don't have to silently open the refrigerator. You're the master of your own fate now! I just try to eat slower, and ask myself if I want more in truth, or if I'm eating as fast as I can because of the old fear and paranoia and the outdated sense that I may not get to eat again for a while. You're safe now - no one can deny you food when you're hungry. And who you are and what you look like? That's up to you, and it's valid to be fat or skinny or in-between...because it's up to you, and what you want. The abusers are gone, now. I hope we all feel safer in our adult lives, and our own homes!
My parents did the same. I have 6 brothers and 1 sister and we were all starved of both food and water, we were that hungry sometimes we would steal dry weetabix and Try to eat them without leaving crumbs so we wouldn't get caught and beaten to the edge of life, locked in our rooms not allowed out for the toilet or anything.
I was so hungry throughout my teens. My mother was still feeding us as if we were 5. We had to use our allowances to buy extra food.
I reported her channel years ago. I can't stand her. Those poor kids. I hope prison justice is swift for her.
That poor 5 year old..I'll never forget the day I forgot my work lunch I was 23 yrs old and I had a 12 hour shift ahead of me. My momma brought it to me NO QUESTIONS ASKED. She even got lost otw to my job but STILL made a point to bring it no excuses. Ruby is a shit mom from real.
I couldn’t believe that part either! I as an adult have forgotten my lunch several times, how can u expect a 5yo to never forget it?!!? Plus, the fact that she was packing the lunches herself also left a bad taste in my mouth… How can a 5yo be trusted to make themselves a wholesome healthy lunch everyday? 🤔
My son at 21 could forget his lunch and I'll give him money or take him food. Children are your responsibility 4 life especially when it comes to showing them love.
Ruby ......Well, she wasn't wrong with her assessment of herself as a person and mother when she made that speech with Jodie - that's the only truth in this whole sorry situation.
Typical Narcisisstic parents. you wont belive how many parents are actually like this. Bet you, both of them behaved normaly in public.
I was looking for this comment! The self-satified smugness ruby always displayed just reeked of narcissism and performance!
@@rikkatrieseverything Once you understand these kind of people, you cant unsee this behaviour.
Yes,look at the husband..all of a sudden he wants the kids
@@kayakazi7765 i hear he called the cops on his eldest daughter because she came to Rubies house to gather some belongings and be there for the children after Ruby was arrested :-( She testified against her mother in court so I guess her father took offense to that? shows you that he doesnt feel bad about what Ruby has done imo. Really disgusting and sad.
@@massivel I remember seeing something on TH-cam about this. Yeah he told her she wasn't allowed near the house or the children and accused her of stealing some things that where hers. Tbh I think he should have been charged 2 he is just as bad
This woman has the gall to say her children were suffering from "entitlement". Is losing your bedroom and being forced to sleep in a bean bag an example of their "entitlement" Ruby? Being told that nothing in the house belongs to them, being told that privacy is a privilege and not a right...or is it just another example of your sadistic abuse of your own children?
I’m 29, I forgot my food at home last week, my dad who lives in a different town sent me money to get lunch
Go dad!!
I was so scared that this case was going to end in the death of one of those poor children. I'm so glad they're being given a chance to turn their lives around and heal.
If it went on for longer it very much could have ended up that way… it was snowballing quicker and quicker and probably wouldn’t have taken long for something horrible like that to happen
How can you hold a 5 year old child responsible for taking care of themselves?
My kid once left his ski jacket at school. So ... I WENT TO GO AND GET IT. Shocking, I know. Did take him with me, though.
@@starlinguk I have a 5 year old and teach around that age - the fact that she was waking herself up, dressing herself, and making her own lunch and breakfast is just unheard of!
It's too much to ask for a kid so young
She thinks a five year old should act like an 18 year old!🤬
I was BAFFLED when she said the 5 year old was expected to wake up on their own, and prepare their own lunch. My 5 year old would starve, OR just dump a crap ton of candy into her lunch box and be on her merry way LOL Also, she can't even reach her clothes on her own. The stuff that's hung up in the closet I mean. And she would just put on the most random stuff.
I was livid hearing that. Most 5 year olds don’t pack their lunches. I sure as hell didn’t and the fact she had the audacity to blame her daughter for doing that and “punishing” her by letting her starve at school makes me livid.
My mom was the opposite and tried to treat me like a 5 year old when I was 18. Why don’t parents grow with their children and learn how the relationship should evolve? People are nuts 😤
Im 34 and still forget my lunch sometimes. It is just cruel and stupid
A five year old who's expected to be perfect too. Adults do things like sleep in and forget lunches. A five year old just isn't capable of handling anywhere near that level of responsibility.
Those two women should be sentenced to 20 years hard labor.
Danielle the ending using their own words against them is absolutely fantastic. Absolutely such a sad case
I can’t believe she didn’t get charges of neglect after see the first few videos of her not letting them use her bathroom or using food as a reward or not replacing a coat. The child still needed a coat. SMH people exploiting their kids is so sickening .
Even her oldest daughter called CPS. She got estranged when she went to college and called CPS and they ignored her claims.
If you know how the system works its very easy to work it.
Kids loose coats.
@@lenymitchell exactly so they should be replaced especially if she's making billions off her kids on TH-cam
The lunch example was so wild to me. I think it could be a good thing to encourage your kids to have responsibility and be involved in prepping their own lunches. But as the parent, and especially a parent to a. 5 year old, it's YOUR responsibility to make sure your kid goes to school with everything they need. It's funny how she's all about "personal responsibility" until it applies to her
My roommate just walked by and saw my boyfriend watching this and said "why is he watching videos of how to put makeup on?". That made me laugh really hard.
Lmao I feel this one. I'm a 42 year old dude and I love listening to Danielle when I'm working or doing something. She's my favorite because her videos are super long and well-researched. People have asked me numerous times why I'm watching a lady do her makeup. Lol
😂my wife said the same thing.... I had to say it's not for the make I swear😂
I truly hope these children recover mentally from all the abuse they endured and go on to live beautiful lives.
How can you have a masters degree in psychology and be a licensed therapist and say mental issues aren’t real?!🤯
I just can’t.
Bravo to the American education and health system 👏🏼
Yup.. baffled me too. I'm AuDHD 😢 invalidated by this sentence
Because some people lack empathy.
Or she just denied everything except the things that fit into her own agenda. Sadly, sometimes really academically smart people can be unhinged. (Sorry for possible spelling mistakes, English isn't my native language.)
Exactly
Russell is such a brave child, I’m so proud of him for saving himself and his sister.
One time in 3rd grade I kept forgetting my lunch. Not on purpose, I just kept forgetting it on the counter. After the 3rd time, my mom said since I forgot it I wouldn’t get lunch that day. So when lunch time came, I sat in the cafeteria and didn’t eat. As I was coming back to class, my mom came up to me and gave me a slice of pizza so I could eat something. I didn’t go hungry but I learned my lesson and never forgot my lunch again. The huge difference is I was 9, not 5 and had been packing my own lunch for about a year at that point. Forcing a 5 year old to provide for themselves in that way is unrealistic and cruel.
Ya. I stopped packing my kids lunches when the continued to bring them home, leave them in bookbags going moldy. I ain't making u lunch or packing them. But they were in grades 8,9?,
The father needs to help accountable as well. He knew what was going on and he saw all the abuse. He's just as guilty. I would never let those kids go back into his care.
From the very first time he saw this thing, she had him by the nuts. These types of people will go along with the abusive spouse just to keep them. IOW, he was a weak head of the home and she absolutely knew this.
as someone who was forced into being able to feed myself by the age of 5 this is actually atrocious. not bringing your child food because she forgot and making her and hoping she starves is insane.
That's really sad, 5 year olds are still so young and don't have the mental capacity to understand how/when to make a nutritious meal, some mum's don't deserve babies
They will make sure that everyone will abuse you, through vicious gossip and only allowing you to be in contact with people who will treat you the same way.
The influence an LDS background has had on this situation can't ignored. It has so much to do with everything that occured with Ruby & Jodi. The the fact Ruby went to college only to find a husband, the fact her goal in life was to be nothing more than a wife & mother, her views on what is suggestive, the kind of place Chad was sent for his "behavior" (which was probably just normal teenage behavior), etc, etc, etc. It's also a huge reason why she went down the rabbit hole with the LDS approved therapist Jodi Hildebrandt was. It's not the sole reason for Ruby's ego & abuse but it is integral to who Ruby Franke is at her core & her belief system
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 I'm not in any way saying that those who follow the LDS church teachings are bad people. They're not. They are for the most part wonderful, kind, family oriented people but there is a certain culture & certain LDS teachings that if taken to the extreme, taken the wrong way, misconstrued, manipulated, or twisted can warp into some very detrimental & in some cases very dangerous ideologies. The fact that girls are taught that being a wife & mother is their ultimate calling is a fact. There's no need to have an outside career goal when your career goal is to be a wife & mother. That's not to say LDS women don't work but it is one reason why MLMs are so popular among the LDS. Some of the church's teachings lead certain individuals down very dark paths (think Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell, Spring Thibedoux, now Ruby Franke, etc). All I was saying was that in order to understand Ruby Franke & what she did you have to understand her LDS background & the impact it had & how it got twisted into what she became. She may have been mean & hurtful no matter what religion she was but it is true to say that without the LDS church she would never have been referred to an LDS therapist & therefore would never have met Jodi Hildebrandt. The fact that the church did not condemn or dismiss Jodi from their ranks after what she did to get her license suspended in the mid 2000s is a direct link to what we're talking about now. Without Jodi Hildebrandt & possibly other LDS therapists input I don't believe Ruby Franke would've done what she did in sending Chad away, taking his bedroom away or devolving into child abuse. She may have a personality disorder & narcissistic tendencies no matter what religion she was but her LDS background fed what was naturally occurring in her psyche
A relative of Hildebrandt’s did an interview with Cults to Consciousness. It’s worth watching! If I remember correctly they touch on the LDS influence
LDS is a cult and has A LOT to answer for. This "religion" comes up over and over again in true crime cases
@@vannahbassett5946 I've watched several interviews with Jessi Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece. Totally worth watching. Unfortunately they went thru similar things to the Franke kids at the hands of their aunt
I feel like it’s always the lds church! It seems like a dangerous path to go down
I've followed this story for years, but you're the first person who has gone into a lot of detail about Ruby and Kevin's relationship and growing up. Thank you for the great work as always!
Same here! I never knew she was engaged before!
the wall sitting is LITERALLY a torture tactic used in North Korean prison camps. Truly despicable..
And what a weak husband, there was an adult there the whole time!!!! He is just as guilty, not a man at all!
The husband tried to sue the oldest daughter the moment ruby was arrested, he never loved the children either he wasn't weak, he simply didn't care
I hope you keep this same energy when the roles are reversed and it’s the husband who is abusive. Women always give other women a pass, but find a way to blame the man every time. If it was the husband doin these things would you say, that mom should have protected her children. No, you would have said poor mom she’s helpless. Like no I give no sympathy to any wife or husband who allows their spouse to be abusive
@brittish1587 the husband was a complete Submissive sickening.
@@25archivesss💯. NO PASSES. PERIOD.
@@25archivessswhy are all your comments about “roles being reversed” if thats seriously your main concern then obviously you dont care about the issue your replying to at all and just wanna speak on women for the sake of the argument its so pathetic
What kills me is CPS ignores this woman's abuse of her children but will immediately take away children from loving parents in other cases, usually if the family is BIPOC. Absolutely astounding. CPS *does not* have children's best interests in mind.
CPS are evil. The things they have allowed to happen time and time again
Dont really think that Immigrants are focused, but the last sentence is true.
I was watching some gut wrenching stories from England where the parents had their children taken away before, but now they were sober and trying to be better, but they still had their newborn taken away, or another where the mother was very loving but single, they also took the child away.
The system seems to be very backward, allowing abusers to do whatever they want, yet not giving a chance to those who are trying to better themselves and want to give their children care and love.
@@babycakes8434 They take the kids from easy targets.
Or poor. But if you have a nice house and project the right appearance you very rarely get your kids taken.
Whats entitled about being denied food? The fact that she held herself up as an example of 'motherhood' is laughable.
The way Russel is looking at the camera is heartbreaking
His eyes are screaming for help
I can not stress enough on this lady! I am literally having break downs as my baby is not eating enough due to fever and this lady voluntarily starved her babies!! My heart is breaking into pieces
I hope your little one feels better soon!
My mom told me a story about when I was a baby and she was so scared because I was so sick I couldn't even keep down a teaspoon of water. Even as an adult, she gets worried if she doesn't think I'm eating enough. This so-called mother is a monster.
@@HSMfanatic17 this is the natural instinct of a mother. Sadly you cannot be a mother just because the baby came out of your body. I have seen people desperate for one child who can be amazing parents. Sadly these people breed like crazy with zero conscience or empathy for their kids
@@HSMfanatic17I keep saying "if You’re happy seeing somebody eat that‘s love" I know there are people saying if a child doesn‘t want to eat xy meal they have to starve and it‘s bad parenting giving in on that. But I‘ll cook pasta for my child even if it would be 10 pm cause I never could leave her going to bed hungry. (Sry for mistakes, I‘m German)
Hope your baby is feeling better soon. I remember my daughter not eating properly for a few days due to illness and I was frantic. I can’t imagine not feeding her on purpose!
Also, all of the stuff around marrying quickly in Utah is very common. You grow up LDS, you find another LDS person. You get married quickly, the woman often quits college and has children. This is literally one of the most common things you’ll see in Utah. I was 19 when I got married and felt like that was a bit old. I met my husband in November and got married the following June. I’ve been married 19 years and have left the LDS faith after realizing how negatively it affected my life. I hope my kids don’t follow this path. I want them to have more time before they settle down. Unlike Ruby, I did finish college. I got my Master’s degree a few years ago and am a mental health therapist for children. I’m so thankful I did that because it helped me see things more clearly and change my life. This situation is so sad and scary!
I was also raised in a church very much like LDS. It really does damage.
Congratulations on breaking the cycle and setting a positive example for your kids and those around you!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I am a member of the church, I married a Catholic. So not al
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I’m 32 minutes in and I cried for Eve! I have a 5 year old and her treatment towards that baby was beyond cruel!
I pray that joy, happiness and peace are restored to these children. May the rest of the lives be the best of their lives.🥺❤
i’m just so glad these kids wont be exposed to her anymore. they deserve so much better.
I also hope their father doesn't get them as he is useless
As a mom, I just want to hug those babies. I’m glad they were eventually saved from this horrible life.
Withholding food from a 5yr old is abuse, pure and simple....
Great upload thanks! 🙏❤️🇬🇧
it's neglect.
@@dannysstart2218 neglect is a form of abuse my dude
@@dannysstart2218 agreed, but whatever it is, it's disgusting....
When I was a kid my grandmother would bring me over to my aunts house (her sister) while she went to work… and every single time my aunt would lock me inside of a closet and I was made to watch my cousin play with his toys and watch tv from inside of the closet (there were little lines I could see through) while i sat there for hours in the dark… my cousin would try to slip me a toy through the closet to play with but the first time he did my aunt caught me with it and accused me of stealing it from him… I didn’t think my grandma would believe me if I told her. I was around 7 years old… but one day she was about to take me to her house and I cried and said I didn’t want to go and my grandpa could just tell that something was wrong. He didn’t know what but he knew that there was no way I was going to let them take me back there… he wound up telling my grandma from now on I would just stay with him and help him work on the trucks and Tractors he worked on everyday. Which I loved so much it was everything to me in that moment I felt like my grandpa was my hero. My grandpa died when I was 18 and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to go through. I never did tell my grandma about my aunt and what she did to me and now my grandma has dementia and it would just be cruel to bring it up now to her so the only ones who know are me, my cousin, my aunt and my husband.
And all of us. That's so wrong I've lived so many situations like this, but reading this reminded of a time I totally forgot about. When I was in one of my Foster homes. My Foster parent would wake us up early and take us to this ladies house so we'd catch our school bus from there. Well when we were dropped off it was so early we didn't eat my Foster mom only fed us once a day anyways. But the other lady said she would feed and take care of us and make sure we go out to catch the bus on time. Which was a 2 hour wait. My Foster mom dropped us off and we'd go inside then as my Foster mom left in a hurry the lady would give us a box of raisins and put us outside for 2 hours. Everyday 😂 I use to be so hungry and I've always hated raisins but some mornings those raisins tasted so good most I gave my box to my lil sister because I know if I was hungry how she felt and I hate raisins then and now
Kudos to your Grampa for just listening to you no questions asked. I'm sure he enjoyed your company while working too!
All of these things happened while millions watched and she still got away with it for so long. I hope she’s given some real justice from the other inmates .
For one, I can’t believe the dad went along with & turned a blind eye to so much abuse but escaped any punishment. Two, it’s even worse so many people gave her a platform to publicly abuse her children, supported it & found it to be a form of entertainment. Smh. Such a disgusting case.
I'm just so happy some of the viewers reported her! Shame on those just watching.
@@edenscookinggram3900 Same it confirms there’s still good people in this world. We have to stand up for ppl who aren’t in a position to stand up for themselves.
oh my goodness I hope those children are doing okay. that is so so traumatic
My heart goes out for those kids. Oh little Russel, how brave he had to be to save himself and his little sister. My heart breaks for him and Eve both, and for the other kids touched by this. I hope the best for them, all the healing in the world and a better more secure future. That little boy showed a kind of love and courage few in this world ever have to face.
Also the neighbor breaking down on that 911 call, I'd be in tears too :c
How did these women have MILLIONS of subscribers??? There were just so many RED FLAGS.... makes you wonder how many parents treat their kids the same way behind closed doors & think its okay
I only watched occasionally to see if CPS had gotten involved yet!
These two should never be released from prison.
So true... you can see someone and think 'they're fine" - but those few minutes don't tell the full story.
I am also thankful to the neighbor and the police who saved those children
I literally just checked your page to see if there was a new upload then 10 seconds later this popped up 😂 I clicked on it so fast. Thank yooouuu. Best way to start off my Monday morning at work.
I’m so glad that the children survived! I was preparing myself to hear about how they died from the abuse. Poor babies. If Russel had not escaped it could have ended so tragically.
You are amazing Danielle. You are so respectful and it sounds weird in a way to say. But, you are so human. It’s not always that way anymore. Thank you for being vulnerable in the way that you are while covering the content you do. Love from Canada 😊❤
The last little bit of sassy Danielle was GOLD 👏🏽😂
“To repent THEIR sins, live in TRUTH, and get rid of THEIR distortion.”
Amen.
As a DV survivor this case makes my heart hurt, i hope these kids have a speedy and amazing healing journey and get the lives they deserved
Disgusting how she treated her poor children, it’s like she set them up to fail so she could punish them, and she took a lot of pleasure in this, I hope she’s never allowed near them again, as for Jodie.. what a disgusting inhumane monster! Throw away the key!
Well done Danielle, another great video 👏 xx
I saw some of the sentencing, I don't watch family channels so I didn't know about this until the case was all over youtuber. Thankyou for talking about this case so I understand more❤
I remember when my brother fell and needed to go to ER for stitches, my mom had just gotten outta the shower and she literally took us all to ER in a bathrobe and towel in her hair!!! She didn't care what she looked like, her son needed medical attention ASAP. My dad ended up leaving work and brought her clothes to hospital. I don't understand some people
And I just need to say, using food as a punishment is settling your child up for so many issues later in life. Ugh. I understand not letting your kids eat whatever whenever they want, but to withhold meals bc you didn't do your chores?!?! No ma'am, not today Satan.
Yeah ..ok ..my mom would not get out before combing her hair and changing clothes and wouldn't even let us call the ambulance b4 changing underwear and socks...
I was hoping you'd cover this! You always go so in-depth and treat the victims with respect.
That 911 call had me in tears!! I can't even imagine what was going through that man's head.
Same 😭 he must of been soooooo overcome seeing a child like that rock up at his door begging for help
The emotion in his voice had me in tears, I can't even imagine the sight of that poor baby.
He showed more emotion in that one call than their mom did their whole lives
Hope she’s enjoying her new home . I hope she’s being treated the same way she treated her kids . Heartbreaking .