Testosterone cypionate injections, pellets or topicals?
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Learn why we believe in the testosterone injections over testosterone pellets or creams. The injections are a superior platform due to a lack of complications and a guarantee of exact delivery of testosterone.
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That graph really helped, thanks! I didn't know how cypionate worked before, the build up process hadn't been explained to me and I just started injections tonight. Helped a lot, you're cool.
elijah27b good luck!!
Great Video!! Started Pellets 7/1 of this year, but the effects have already worn off 2 months, going back on the Cypinate shots
Great video, just started with the shots and in this video you answered a lot of my questions. Thank you!
awesome!!
Thxs sooo much for this info, im thinking I suffer from low-T . Knowing which platforms to stay away from helps me w/decisions. Thxs again
Thanks for the new video Brandon! Excellent presentation.
+Lee Shurie Thanks Lee!!
I've had to stop therapy on several occasions. When I restart, to get to level almost immediately, I take the first three shots at half normal interval. So for a 7 day interval I take the first on day one, the second on day 3 and the third on day 8 then resume and take the fourth on day 15 and so on. Do the half life value on a chart and you'll see that this works because of the timing. I've done the shots on 3 and 5 day intervals but didn't notice the difference and it requires more of my time than just every week. My dose is about 140mg per week.
I'm super impressed with your videos, well done!
I agree...
After watching several videos on the subject of different ways to take testosterone, this is the one I found most helpful.
Yesss
this is really helpful thanks for the upload, for someone who is starting T therapy soon its really helpful to have something like this that explains what is going to happen to the drug within my body. cheers .
PleSe keeep those of us interested in your experience, I too need to see a doctor.thxs
I love ur videos. But ur audio only plays in the left hear. A little FYI
Great info answered a lot of my questions
Great information I needed to know. You explained it in layman terms. Thank you
Hi buddy. Ive low T due to abuse of anabolic steroids. Went in way to hard for too long. Doc put me on gels.. now that I've done my research i guess gels are a quick fix. This video has made so much sense. Im pretty sure HCG is the right path for me to try. Or along with Cyp? I want to be able to feel like a normal 35 year old and not like an 80 year old! Keep up the good work.
Graeme McCullough good luck!!
Reallly great info! Started with the 100mg/125mg weekly, felt good and moved to splitting my dose every 3.5 days on t cyp and felt terrible after a few months. Just fell below that optimal range. After being up the 800's my t dropped to low 500's at it's peak on the biweekly. Had to go back to weekly and adjust the dose.
Awesome video! Thanks
Absolutely excellent yet again thanks.
Thank you!
Hey man appreciate your knowledge! my doc has me on 75ml of 200mg per ml cypionate, every week, is this a normal amount?? what is average amount that you see? and if i take on a Monday do i take another on Sunday or Monday? thanks again
Great video. I started last week and it's helped. From the info I've got a good Dr. Thanks for the info.
AWESOME!!!
Im intrested, what platform did you go with? Thxs
Great video, thank you.
Seeing the chart was insightful. Is it odd that I get injections every 12 to 14 days, but I DONT feel a big drop at the end of that cycle, compared to the beginning or middle?
the pellets have been great for me....steady flow of test. Test was 325 in Jan....got the pellets and checked levels every other month. Levels were Mar 650, May 729, late June 575, late July down to 488. Did another round and pretty same results....my levels average around 600-700 these days. Never had any spike (nothing close to 1000+)
Those are still pretty big swings brother
Can you use a combination of the 3 to stay at a more level dose?
Well done sir!
Thank you so much - I started seeing a new naturopathic doctor that converted me to the shots (I was on Androgel) and I've been really wondering which is better. You really laid it out very clearly for me. Thank you!!
Great news!
How did you get switched over if you don’t mind me asking?
@@joshfaye3300 The doctor had me stop the gel for a week before we started injections. Then they started with a small amount once a week for 4 weeks then tested to see where my testosterone was and how my body adapted, then increased and adjusted from that point on. I had to stop the initial switch and go back to gel because my PCP was against this because if other health issues but am going to do it again with a new endocrinologist. We had to postpone because of Corona of course.
How do you know your in the optimal zone and most importantly how do you STAY in the “green zone”? Wouldn’t your levels just keep rising after each injection?
I am just learning about this myself. I have low t (253) You have a great presentation and great information but I have to disagree with you on one things. When you were talking about the frequency of the shots. Unless I misunderstood you, you said having a shot once a week is the best and not every 3 days. And the reason would be that you could fall below your line? But if you are taking a shot once and week and you are the same distance from your bottom line you would drop below it also. If you stay middle to top of your range, a shot every 3 days would be the best because of how close your dips would be to your peaks. Of course, I am no Medical Doctor. You have way more knowledge on this than I but common sense is still common sense. Correct?
Right on Brandon was on androgel was working so so started 100mg cypionate intramuscular and already feel the difference in all areas not sure 100 a week is enough but blood test in a couple of months Ps thanks your videos are very helpful
Was 100 enough? That’s what my doctor started me on , I feel better but I feel like the dose is fairly low, like I could feel even better on a higher dose, my 2 month blood work is in a couple of weeks.
@@huskybrushape I’m doning 200 split in two and 75 mg provivon a day keep arimadex on hand in case your get a high conversion to estrogen as soon as you pass 140 160 per week you may get some side effects
Fromm higher estrogen levels just my experience
I started with androgen and did raise my test to 300 plus and that was it.
Injections on which I am still works best to raise it but sucks due to fact you have to inject weekly and after so much time I decided to go with roll on compounding pharmacy test cream.
It worked as good as injectable and works more with your bodies natural clock rather than having one big long spike and drop with injectable.
Only reason I stopped is due to increase in prescription cost.
Yeah, from a physiologic perspective, the injectables are grossly superior in our opinion. Two small shots a week, via an insulin needle, gives an incredibly steady blood level throughout the week/ month.
Best explanation I’ve seen
Best comment we've ever seen. :)
Great info
Love the content but a couple slight disagreements with your chart. If you were injecting every 14 days (which I agree with your recommendation NOT to do) the dose would be double what the weekly dose would be so your peaks would be higher… there would be significant fluctuations so that’s more the issue than the time it takes to reach “steady state.” I also think injecting twice a week would have less issues with staying in range since there is less fluctuation as well. Your thought is it may be harder to stay in optimal range but i think it would be easier as your total peak to trough would be around 25% compared to 50% once you settle in on the correct total weekly dose.
Thank-you
I’ve been on Androgel, and it gives me pressure headaches, and makes my neuropathy worse. Sometimes it makes my heart feel weird, and I take 25 percent of the starting dose. Wondering if I’d have better luck on Cypionate (shots).
I have a question. Been on trt for 3 years.
Doses per week ranged from 80-160mg test cyp. (best total T was around 720).
Last week on 100mg. Total was 837? Any speculation as to why it's so high? Any thoughts are welcomed.
Thanks!
My T levels are at 214 @ the age of 27 they prescribe me cyp .05 weekly. But I'm really not to sure if I should inject it or just get a natural testosterone pct cycle since I'm still young .
My first week on t.r.t. I dusted off my bycicle. Slapt on my helmet. And rode my bike to work. I hope it gets better from here. I'm on a .06 a week test shot. Kind of glad he only gave me the prescribed dose. Or else I might shoot it two days early just to peak. But no...always follow the doctor's orders for optimal health
Yey, I love it, I pray all goes better each day...
Good stuff! Thank you 🙏🏻! I’m doing the cream 1.62%. I just stared it and I’m hoping for good results. If not, I may switch to the injections.
Thanks Brandon,this is exactly the information i needed.
Great info!
How old do you have to be to have this done. I'm 63 and I do have health problems .
Thanks
What do you recommend for a woman low in T and progesterone and cortisol. Would T cream pans Progesterone cream balance all? This is what my dr recommend.
My doc put me on a weekly cypionate treatment after having low testosterone levels. Wish I treated myself sooner...I am on week 2 and wow I feel so much stronger, motivated, and happier. I can't wait how my results will come in from my workouts. How soon will I see changes to my physique if I workout 4 times a week? Also you got a new subscriber thanks!
AChav92 nice work!! Within th second month if you’re killing it. Keep it up!!
Hi Brandon, I just had my T levels checked. They came back very low so my dr. wanted to prescribe Androgel. From the research I've done i think i would prefer injections but my issue is that i work offshore for several weeks at a time. We have medics aboard our vessel which can administer shots but my question is, are there programs in which you can do shots every month rather than every week? Also will taking the shots in any way effect the results of drug tests?
The weekly shots are best. There are ways to order a few months at a time and take it with you. Call us after the 1st and we’ll give ya all the details. And no, no issue with any workplace bloodwork.
I've taken pills and creams and they don't seem to work.
Thanks for the info. You say that dht conversion is higher when using topical solutions. Does that mean using topical gels would increase libido or reduce it. Serious question
Topical gels increase libido because of data conversion.
Why with creams convention to DHT is higher ?
Very,Very good Topic👍🏋️♂️🍀
You do a wonderful job, keep it that way🙏😍❤
Very explicit and understandable to all,very interesting and logical explanation "increase the Dose and not the Frequency"🤔although everyone does biweekly(Mon and Thu)🙄
But now, it is Obvious and Logical what you say!👍🏋️♂️🍀
Thank you!!
In the old days I took test as you describe when I was doing roids with legal prescription. Today I am 63 and was recently measured with very low T and adrenal fatigue which I know is from PTSD. Here is my problem. I have a lady doc. I dont feel like they are the best choice for T plans. She has me on super low dose of T where I take .15 of a mL twice a week using a half inch 27 gauge. It will inject ok but I can not imagine putting a larger dose so shallow. Plus the dose is low. The theory is low dose will keep me from seeing my estrogen level climbing and keep me from needing HcG. I am only in now for two weeks. Reality is, I want to try to gain back muscle mass I lost as I got older. I am six feet and was 225 all muscle. Now I am 210 and soft. The T is helping but I dont see these low doses doing much. The vial provides 200 mg/mL. So I am taking .15 of a mL twice a week with no estrogen blocker and no HcG. I have some unconstituted HcG I have not mixed which is about five years old. Dont know it it is safe to use this HcG if I add the water. I feel my dose of T is too small. And Idaho is hinky in their laws where docs get nervous if someone actually beefs up from T. They dont mind bringing you to normal levels but they dont want to exceed that. Any thoughts regard my dose level. and the theory of low dose to avoid other substance use?
Yoshiyah Seven man, so much to say about this. Any testosterone you take will require hcg. Don’t use the old stuff tho. Lol. It’s dead by now anyway and possible not sterile. Call us to discuss the details of subq testosterone. We have many guys doing a full cc weekly right under the skin.
Brandon man you hit the nail on the head. I went to my primary Dr. In may 2018 no energy, stamina, sex drive you name it I felt bad. My Dr. Asked me questions and then said it sounds like you have low t. Well about a week later I went back in and doc said well I was on point your level is very low for a 50 yr old. I said what is it doc said 76 I'm sending you to a UROLOGIST long story short July 25th I had the tesopel put in and I will never forget August 14 it hit me all of a sudden I got an erection like never in my 50 years I felt like a super hero then first week of October 2018 I started feeling bad again and sad thing I was CRASHING as my primary dr. Told me. I contacted the UROLOGIST and nope couldn't get until December. I had procedure done December 11th now I wish I kept doing the injections like before my first procedure it was much better but my UROLOGIST said my level's were to low and injection would not help.. I wish I had seen this first you summed it up for me buddy.. Any man reading this listen to everything Brandon says he is 100 percent correct on this.. Good thing I still have some left over before my 1st procedure now I know what to do on the crash.. inject 😉
Thanks man you know your stuff and yes I subscribed..keep it coming..
Thank ya sir!
Great video i love it..
Maxmillion TNAUFCWWE thank you
gr8 info, Danke!!
how do the creams act with the peaks an valleys? you didnt do that on the chart
I would assume they stay steady as long as you never missed a dose, but he did mention you absorb it differently everyday from environmental causes so I would assume lower normal.
I'm am a type 2 diabetic and I have made progress with gaining control of my diabetes through fitness and diet . I have problems with energy levels and working out . My question is how safe is taking testosterone and being diabetic and what application should I consider ? Thank you for your post
There are plenty of studies that show low T causes insulin resistance and getting on therapy increases insulin sensitivity. We always recommend the injection route if you can manage it. We have men who are diabetics who would talk to you about their experience if you're so inclined.
That’s one of the things I didn’t like about the creams, though daily dosing is nice in terms of mimicking daily rhythm, you are forever tied daily to the gels, and if you forget it or go out of town and forget to pack it etc you are screwed. the injections, are a like a set it and forget it, and comes with much less maintenance. not to mention the fact that it’s hard to get high normal levels on the gels
Yep. You got it
Interesting stuff, chart was great and totally makes sense. What is D/H/T…?
Dihydrotestosterone. Its a hormone converted from testosterone that is critical for good health but can cause prostate issues, acne and hair loss sometimes.
Using Clomid with Androgel can help to prevent troughs in T levels.
True. Hcg does exactly the same without the side effects.
That's absolutely the best way to take testosterone. It peaks around 72 hours then heads back down. The 5th day you can definitely tell.
quick question - this video is a great explanation and was wondering since it is 5 yrs old has the technology of pellets gotten any better in regards to its effectiveness over time?
Im afraid not.
Since I found out I had low T, I started to educate myself about low T and the symptoms and diagnoses and tests. One thing that I found to be very closely related to low T is thyroid issues because of the similarities of the symptoms and personal notice. Can you make a video explaining the correlation between low T and low Thyroid. And do you guys optimize thyroid at your clinic? Thanks again for the awesome videos.
Ahmad Sheikhard yeah. We will put one out! :)
Low T Nation looking forward to hearing about thyroid also. I’m hypothyroid hypogonad and finding info scarce.
@@buildmotion1426 Yeah, we've got to get the thyroid information out there. call us in the meantime for a one on one if you're interested. 866-349-5698
I think the longer lasting esters like testosterone undecanoate should become more common in the US.
They definitely have their place. Would be nice to have the option.
Awesome videos and information. Recently I was approved for TRT and the option by my urologist was to use pellets as opposed to injections or the cream. He did mention that every 3 or 4 months I would have to return for another session. But hearing your side about pellets I think I should ask to do injections instead...I have a feeling that this would make me want to drop my urologist because he's all motivated to do pellets for some reason
Yep. Totally agree. It's a much simpler business model. Not as good physiologically.
@@Lowtnation thank you for the reply. So is this treatment for life?
@@aresxerxes6291 I'm afraid it usually is.
Brandon, I was able to get infections as opposed to pellets. I told my urologist how I felt about it and he understood. I appreciate your always sounds feedback.
@@aresxerxes6291 I really hope yoi mean injections. Lol. Glad to hear it.
How do you treat patients outside of Atlanta how does the process work?
robert fornwalt Robert, feel free to call me at 770.596.5524 and I'll give you all the details. It's a bit of a conversation.
I'm not sure if you mentioned, but do you guys charge your patients to come in and get the shot or do you just provide them the prescriptions, they take the shot at home and then come see you for the testing and monitoring.
We drop ship everything you need directly to your door. Best case scenario. :)
12:27 Is his recommended solution. Increase injection dosage not frequency.
Yea. Increase dosage...
Didn’t help me. Increased frequency did.
I don’t have a clinic near me. So I went to one of these telemedicine companies who “specialize “ in TRT. I mainly wanted my levels checked, I’m 38 yrs old and turns out I’m pretty low. 138 total test. Free test was low also . After speaking virtually with a physician, he suggested cream. I think it’s 5% 50m/cc. I really want to find somewhere trustworthy to get the injection but as I said , there’s no TRT clinics nearby my location. Anyone have any advice? Plus the price for the subscription and cream is a little pricey.
Where are you located?
Great video man, thank you. Do you need HCG if you're not worried about fertility?
TheBenjammin5150 without hcg. U will loose ur libido and erection. Hcg is necessary for trt.
@@romynandra566 , no it's not!
I've been injecting Test cypionate in the belly fat at 56mg (28ml) 2X per week been holding that level for 5 weeks. Before that was holding 100mg/week for 2 months. Just got blood test and Total T is 1043, and Estradiol is at 105 (high), DHT is 576. I'm not taking Anastrazole. Should I lower my dose back to 100mg/week? Also, what do you think about supplements like TestBoost?
That's a great total. Personally, I'd keep my levels high like that and use an AI to get that estradiol back under 50. All of the supplements are garbage.
Do you recommend “low dead space” syringes? I noticed with BD syringes you can waste upwards of .05 ml of the oil that’s leftover in the dead space of the slip on portion of the syringe for each injection. I’ve recently ordered low dead space syringes to reduce waste of the test cypionate. Your thoughts on this? Thanks!
We've recently changed out protocols to use 27 ga insulin needles. No waste :) check out the welcome aboard video for the details.
Doc, thanks for the reply. One last question. Is a 1/2” insulin needle long enough to inject IM into the thigh or do you recommend shooting in the delt instead? I am seriously considering switching to insulin needles as I hate the waste. I’m on .7ml per week of test cypionate and my doctor told me to inject twice a week (.35ml each time).
@@mikeyp9894 Yeah .5 is fine for the thigh. Delts are are also fine. Whichever is easier for you.
thank you for breaking it down I'm 40 and I just had my blood checked and my t level is 115 and there sending me to endocrinologist soon and I was wondering what I should ask for
applenutz2003 they should perform a very comprehensive set of labs. If you’d like us to take a look at them, just let us know!!
Low T Nation hi there. I’ve been dealing with all the symptoms of low t for a good while now and this past year I have had 7 blood tests and they all came back low and my doctor just kept making me wait and even asked if I was using steroids. So finally I went to a trt/hrt clinic and they ran a full blood panel and came back low again. I will be seeing an endocrinologist as well but I was wondering if you could look at my panels and tell me what you think?
any updates, please?
How long does it usually take for the pellets to start working because I've had them in me for 2 weeks and I do not feel it
You should start feeling it soon. Kinda strange you haven't begun to feel it yet. If nothing after about 4 weeks, hit your doc up for labwork.
Why did my blood pressure rise high when I got pellets?
What are pellets? What is the right dose of gel (tostrex for example) on trt, people say the injection is 125 mg at week but no people talk about gel. The instruction on tostrex say 6x days that are 60 mg at day, 420 at week an enormous quantity. I can't understand why no people an doctor and youtubers know that and talk about that. The quantity on gel have to be big because no all are absorbed?
Where to get the injections/supplies?
we ship them all straight to the patients.
I take weekly shots for the past year and my body has gotten use to it where by the third day I'm out of juice. In trying the pellets for the first time tomorrow. My friend that has taking the pellets says it's way better than the injections. I feel that my body has gotten used to the injections and I dont feel much of a difference anymore
Your body doesn't get used to testosterone. If it did, we would feel lethargic in our early years and need more and more and more even when our levels were the highest. If you're feeling down a few days after the injections, I'd suspect it's an estrogen issue. The pellets could make this drastically worse.as well. Give us a call before you proceed if you want to discuss. Ask for Brandon.
Brandon, what’s your opinion IM vs SubQ injection for Testosterone?
Whichever you prefer. The absorption is identical.
My doc had recommended pelleting so this is good info. I think that's going to be a no for me.
good call
3 1/2 days is the sweet spot for me.
good stuff brotha ... good stuff
Cornelius Lee thank ya!!
no problem, I just emailed you
what do you think of Sermorelin
We much prefer ipamorelin with CJC
But how do you determine your individual green zone.
Is there a generally accepted level that all men over say, 40 should shoot for...not talking about dosage, rather the ng per dl
I'm currently on pellets. When is a good time to switch to injections?
As your coming down. You don't want to wait until the crash. You want yo upslope to catch the downslope.
Is topicals good for working out and muscles?
All testosterone helps with that very well. The tropicals still carry the problems mentioned in the video.
Brandon. My doctor put me on cypinate and I had itching sensation in the leg I injected so I got away from that. He now has me on xyosted sub q auto injection and I'm itching all over. Do you think I need to go to pellets because I'm guessing that the oils in the injection are causing an allergic reaction. I've tried the cream but didn't work at all. I need help with this.
Its something I've not encountered but in guess its possible. It's a hell of a commitment to test that way. I'd try a different oil first.
Possibly another oil carrier will fix it
@@Lowtnation Ok thanks man. I'm trying to get it figured out. Do they have an alternative oil I can ask my Dr about?
What he says about pellets is true...That's what happened to me. I got a huge spike and i was scheduled to get an other pellet and i was way to high.
Microdosing everyday is best (for me ) and I've tried many different frequencies schemes . It's not that complicated at all . Takes less time than doing your hair or shaving and it makes me feel way better / more stable.
I just recently started breaking out my doses as well but not on a daily basis.
For the first 12 months of my testosterone dosing I was pinning every five days and now I am pinning every three days with a 29 gauge 1/2". But I'm not doing subcutaneous, Im going into my delt and I'm pretty sure I'm reaching muscle because I have zero fat there. I really started doing it because of the scar tissue from the bigger pin, and because of the wasted solution I was losing in the hub. But one thing I haven't been able to determine yet is if pinning every three days and keeping my levels more constant will also increase the DHT in my scalp and make me lose more hair, or even have a bigger risk for gyno. What are your thoughts on that?
@@MasterArmedforces In theory, pinning more frequently would diminish risks of side effects but it's mostly dose dependent. The higher the dosage per week , the higher the risks for side effects.
@@martinnichols45 Im at low levels. For 12 months I was doing .55ml every 5 days, now Im doing .30 every 3 days.
What is your view on subq test injections? Great chart btw
Love them. Since filming this video, we have switched over to twice a week sub-q injections
@@Lowtnation what size insulin needle for sub Q?
@@ashleytaylor994 29g, but keep in mind that it will take an extra 45 seconds to a minute and a half to push the T through that small of a needle gauge
@@Lowtnation I just recently started breaking out my doses as well but not on a daily basis.
For the first 12 months of my testosterone dosing I was pinning every five days and now I am pinning every three days with a 29 gauge 1/2". But I'm not doing subcutaneous, Im going into my delt and I'm pretty sure I'm reaching muscle because I have zero fat there. I really started doing it because of the scar tissue from the bigger pin, and because of the wasted solution I was losing in the hub. But one thing I haven't been able to determine yet is if pinning every three days and keeping my levels more constant will also increase the DHT in my scalp and make me lose more hair, or even have a bigger risk for gyno. What are your thoughts on that?
Low t Nation is the truth
If there something I can take to get audio for my right ear? :P
Hah. Fair. Lol
@@Lowtnation I'm just joking around, by the way. Love the content and watch it often. Appreciate what you do! Starting T tomorrow.
@@SkydivingSquid Thank you and glad to hear it!
I had a blood test 3 days after my injection, the levels came back at 1379.and I'm told in time I will level out. Is it normal to have less erections and libido when levels are high? I inject once a week. I was told to lower dose to 0.8cc instead of 1cc. Any help is appreciated
I'd try the .8 split into two shots weekly. See if that makes a difference. :)
I've been on TRT(Cypionate-300mg/2x week) for about 6 months. Felt great for a while then felt like I was going to pop. Had labs done and hematocrit was at 61, did phlebotomy. I dropped down to 200/2times week, but have High Blood pressure now. Never had High Blood Pressure in my life. I've always been 120-130/80 kind of guy. Suddenly my BP was 165/105. I've gotten that down to 140/85 but still not acceptable in my limited knowledge of everything. In your opinion if the cypionate has this effect on BP, would you say that this is an isolated case where I am not a strong candidate for TRT? I have zero desire to go back to feeling lethargic, but I have a son and wonderful family that need me around, so can't be playing around with sustained High BP either. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I believe that may be too high a dose. Are you having serial labs drawn? You should every two weeks until you reach a desirable level.
1davechase is right. That's a boatload of test. For some, way too much. When hematocrit and estrogen get too high, BP goes way up. You have to manage those. Giving blood only reduces HCT by 6%ish. You need at least two draws or a double red blood draw to get back under 51.
200 is a cycle. 4 years later how are you doing ?
lol, I just realized I listed this wrong because someone commented and it’s so old I’m just now te reading it. I was only on .2 twice a week. So half a cc a week. Technically less than half a cc.
@@agustinreyes6111 feel great not that I’m off TRT and no hematocrit issues and no anemia from phlebotomy.
Also taking T subQ works the same as IM. I've tested many times back and forth and the results are the same on average. This is with an insulin syringe.
Subq always gives me sore spots and bruises.
@@RichardsWorld Try staying around the belly button. Less than an inch away. This eliminates it for many.
I started pellets yesterday
Hope it works well for ya.
Are you drinking the Iron Man drink that kept him alive? Wait, are YOU Iron Man?
Jonathan Murphy lol. No and no. Does bulletproof coffee count though??
so which one is recommended?
Injection therapy
What is your protocol for controlling DHT?
Zen G. Hi Zen. Natural is best when it comes to blocking 5-alpha-reductase from turning the testosterone into DHT. Saw palmetto, pumpkin seed extract, L-lysine, green tea extract and grape seed extract all work to block dht and actually have many other positive health benefits. Propecia causes severe ED in many patients and it block dht to an unhealthy level in my opinion. DHT is crucial to optimal health so don't block all of it. Also, remember that hair loss is more genetics than anything else. Hope this helps.
Thanks. It would be helpful to see a video or get more info on what a typical treatment plan looks like. For example, testosterone & HCG injections, aromatase inhibitor, DHT blocker, and anything else.
Thank you! My doctor just did a blood test and it turned out I have low testosterone. Looking at the symptoms it makes a lot of sense. She said that she would like to put me on a treatment. We ruled out creams or gels because I have a little 5-year-old daughter and I don't want to put her at risk of contact. The told me that the injections might require a nursing visit because they are difficult to administer and that would typically happen every 2 weeks. Although I do not know if that is the time scale she has planned yet or not. I will discuss that with her.
My late wife had Type-2 Diabetes and she regularly gave herself shot. Is it any more difficult than that??? Is it because of the location. Seems like it needs to be in the glute muscle or the quadriceps. If I can get better results more frequently that would be great. I am very forgetful and worry about needing to remember to give myself treatments. But it seems like that might be a symptom too that might improve with the treatments.
As far as the application of the injections, there are many options. Subcutaneous being one of the more popular. My wife actually gives me my injections. Just set a calendar reminder and do the shots at least once a week, not every two weeks. Also, don't do it without HCG and good estrogen management.
Low T Nation thank you for the additional input. My doctor said that after me asking her some questions she wants me to go a specialist instead of taking care of it in office. The specialist she wants me to see is endocrinologist
Personally, but I'm biased :), I'd recommend a TRT clinic. One that understands HCG usage, estrogen management, and fertiliy.
Alejandro did get help brother?
@Bgoodorhell 4U we have been working on trying and getting my levels in a good range. My estrogen keeps shooting up and making my skin very itchy.
There was a while when I was on clomid and HCG, and things really started feeling better, but then I there were HCG shortages everywhere and any I can find is way too expensive for me to manage.
Now I have an appointment with my urologist tomorrow to see what we will do next.
My wife does pellets every 3 months, Do you have a better option for her. We can send you her blood test.
Yes. Much better. Give us a call after the 1st and well get you caught up with our options.
Is cypionate a natural hormone? How much do you take for 180 lb wt.?
Cypionate is just a ester (carbon chain) attached to the bioidentical molecule of testosterone. With that being said, the cypionate ester can be attached to almost any anabolic hormone, bioidentical or synthetic.
Thanks for your help.