Uhh... so I apologize for this but it seems like I made a BIG mistake regarding 16:55 where I say Sigewinne will be available as a Trial unit from Special Guest Stars pool in Imaginarium Theater. It seems like you actually need to HAVE her in order to use characters from Special Guest Star pool. My bad T_T
When she was first introduced in the story, I was expecting her to be a 4 Star character to released alongside either Wriothesley or Neuvillette banner. Yet here we are, after such a long delay in releasing her, Mihoyo in their infinite wisdom decided to sell a 4 Star level characters as a 5 Star character yet again!
@CurseOxuin Same man. When I first arrive to Fontaine, the first thing I saw was a cute melusine and wondered if one of them would be playable. The dissappointment I have with how this turned it is... a lot
what irritates me most is how after all these years, our hydro 4* roster is PITIFUL. kingqiu is still one of the best if not the best character in the game, and im not expecting them to release another one of him, but it's actually offensive our ONLY new 4* hydro in all the past few years is CANDACE. fontaine, the land of hydro, didnt give us any. imo sigewinne really should have been a 4* but no matter what she feels a bit redundant and gimmicky. and also i find it annoying how they give us so many hp scaling characters and yet that's a huge niche we're missing from weapons substats.
@@vincesetnuef492 great is generous 😭 she only has utility at c6 that I know of and it’s for Arlecchinos team and her damage is negligible it’s just the hydro app
@@ctran1955 I guess Im biased with the thought on arle team but hydro AOE just felt superior sometimes than single target situation plus that 30% damage boost on NA is good
Well as XQ and Barbara are both broken as f they struggled to make a "decent" 4 star. If you are unaware that Barbara is broken even though she was one of the only few characters that ever got nerfed since 1.0, then good to you. She is still broken IMHO, most people just don't understand how to exploit her skill to produce virtually unlimited hydro application (even after the nerf). Although I would agree that Candace suck, she really should grant interruption resistance like XQ or Baidou to be worth using for most teams.
I would've loved her to work with Wriothesley because of the how Neuvilette and Furina work so well together and story wise they should have worked together but that's just me and also.....she should've been a four star and the only people I see wishing for her are collectors or people who enjoy her as a character
She would have never truly worked with Wriothesley given she has a hydro vision. Wriothesley is a melt dps, while he can be played in freeze it's going to significantly worsen his damage. And Furina basically works with everyone if you just put marecheusse on them which of course also applies to Neuvilette but not only to him but close to every character
@@ChiIIi... nah they can work around her kit, but just lazed around and hard-headed. Classic genshin team move, unless chinese will riot like zhongli's kit.
Unless natlan somehow pulls up with a new mechanic that can make better use of sigewinne, I'll assume the main use of sigewinne that mhy intended was really moreso for overworld utility. A bow hydro that can heal every party member on E? Yeah, that's like 3 overworld utility in 1 basically, bow for all the bow puzzles, a hydro available for anytime you need it with charged shot, and E healing for all the little fights you get into for the treasure chest. And overworld enemies are easy enough that furina+sigewinne buff will probably finish them off without you even needing to do anything extra. Whether that pretty niche overworld utility is worth it or not (especially when yelan fulfills 2 of it too with her own great overworld utility) well..... and this isn't me trying to say Sigewinne's kit is suddenly justified, bcs she could have still done all this + have use in meta by, well yaknow giving every party member separate buff hit points/increased buff dmg. whatever happened with sigewinne's kit is still really sad. As a healer lover I.... ofc I really really REALLY wished Sigewinne could have been way better but after Baizhu (and I mean Baizhu before neuvilette/furina release where his teams were.... Great but still largely considered just a QoL yaoyao) I learned to appreciate the comfyness of E skill party healers and just loving them for being useful (to me) nonetheless, even if it wasn't in Abyss. That's just my 2 cents on it tho.
Like you mentioned Yelan. I mean her sprint skill while regenerating stamina is the only way I get by in the open world. I can't run without her. Pretty sad really. Then if one wants interruption resist or heals one could consider Dehya, then you get the 2-hander for ores as well. Then you can just take whatever rest you want. My teams are more or less always: Main dps Kuki(heal), Yelan, Raiden. Kuki and raiden helps battery, Yelan with high crit and fav bow, Then any dps and you can handle pretty much anything on the map no matter what type. Preferrably not an electro main dps as raiden can substitute for it but, no big deal anyway with yelan. Running usually with Eula as main dps. She has inbuilt interruption resist and a 2-hander.
I very much understand this perspective. In a way, Sigewinne is the 5* version of Sayu, the overworld utility character. I do say, that Natlan could cook up some buffs for Sigewinne. I doubt Bond of Life mechanic ends on a low note with Sigewinne, and we got to see how healing and BoL interact with each other, either not at all via Arlecchino, or as conversion via Clorinde. If we get some teamwide BoL buffer with clorinde healing interaction, then Sigewinne can be pretty good. I think the missing piece of the puzzle is basically a buffer with BoL, given the BoL is affected by healing and affects the amount of a buff. It would be mutual benefits for each other- Sigewinne giving more BoL via healing, and said BoL-based buffer buffing the additional dmg from Covalence stacks.
Maybe this is a copium on my part but isn't it possible that most natlan characters will be centered as being hypercarry sub dps that can utilize sigewinne's buff? Idk this part of her kit is just bizarre, it almost seems like it's planned
She is not available as a trial in Imaginarium theatre, she is a special guest character if you have her. It's bait to pull her as the only possible hydro.
Dawg just release her as a 4 star. Her entire kit is below mediocre even for 4 star standards. Besides hydro NEEDS more 4 stars since we only have three 4 stars till now.
@@zanroellames8198😂 bro she ain't that bad considering characters like Xinyan, amber and aloy still exist. Atleast she provides comfy healing, but absolutely not 5 star worthy.
Ive seen many people compare Sigewinne with what happened to Kokomi when she first came out, saying she will be good when new characters release and we learn to play her. The thing is, kokomi was always good, its just that 1. Her weapon and constellations try to make her a main dps, which can be good, but not as good as support kokomi 2. She cant crit, and back then huge numbers were everything It would be true if we only looked into sigewienne's bubble and burst damage, ignored her healing and synergy with furina (and everything after 5:28) and called her a "bad dps" who needs her c4 for her damage to be good, and months later find out she can heal.
I think we are ignoring the most important thing about her kit yet that we havent seen before on any other char, The increase to off field dmg, now dont get me wrong. The chars that this thing benefit are so limited, also since its 10 uses only makes her a complete joke with them, but hear me out. what if at the future they do release a char that has like 2 or 3 off field attacks that are nukes, something we dont have yet. ofc rn shes almost useless but prolly there is something goin on post fontainte.
@@deltaspecies1697 The buff can be pretty good in the right hands. If it was aimed at buffing Furina forward vape damage, then we would be onto something since the additional dmg buff also takes into account EM and the reaction multiplier buff. But at the current moment, we hardly have any means to go by with either forward vape or reverse vaping off-field skill dmg. I know it is only 10 hits of the buff, but that could be pretty substantial on few but heavy hitting hits and maybe even low field time buffs. If Murata has pyronado attached to the elemental skill, then even Mona finds compatibility with Sigewinne since the burst duration will fit well with how long the covalence buff count will last. It may take 6 seconds to consume all 10 stacks.
I AGREE. I don't even have Kokomi but I'm praying she gets a rerun soon becasue she's one of the best hydro supports for HYDRO APPLICATION, and she does decent heals on top of that. Sigewinne doesn't have any of these things. Skill healing is good but like... make her a dedicated healer. I don't need her burst to do damage if she's a healer. They should've made it something like Baizhu's ult... something that does heals. Crazy concept I know.
Then ubused her wrong i had mo issue My problem with her isbshe isba on field hydro aplicstor means once she swapes of field she wont apply any more new hydro so i went for furina instad even though i like her less inmean as a chaeachter/ charwchter design At first inthought sigwinn would feel as stiff and draggy as klee but this was not the case Nmbut of field suports are clearly mire valuable and her little demage when she is on field foesnt really helpnthis at all
I also found her painfully weak in the trial. But she works epicly in my team (Klee/nahida/yae miko/sigewinne). She upped Mikos dmg by about 71% from kokomi.. which is a lot more than getting her from C3 to C6 did
I'm still mind blown that she's a 5 star??? My bro even like " who would waste their money to buy primos just to pull this crap ??" I can't even refute him 😔
I really hope shes another Kokomi, where we only found out her true potential after months and other units came out, and that she wont stay this bad. I really hope her mechanic of applying bond of life will be useful in the future
@@LucasLima-qk1lw The difference is Kokomi already have a solid kit since beginning. The doompost most of the time is just "no crit no damage" when in reality she already deals good damage even as a healer and she is also in one of the best taser comp. Now nothing on sijwin kit is actually good, or even solid aside from her healing
Im not even sure what Hoyo could do for her. Plus Kokomi was never bad just the community didn't really understand how she was valuable. While Clam did buff her I would argue that what it really did was have people take a second look at Kokomi. I don't really see something similar happening for Sigewinne especially since we are going to be leaving Fontaine soon.
@@muhammadrafif1871 I mean, Im not getting her, im just trying to see the point of her even being in the in the first place. The point is, at the time Kokomi was launched, there were no incentive to use her as there wasnt enemies that de-encourage you to use shields (wolfs and husks) neither Furina, because at the time, having a strong shield was infinitly better than having a full party heal. Maybe we dont see her full potential because theres no need for a hydro healer that applies bond of life now
Yeah, nevermind how every girl wants her because she's smol and adorable. Yeah she totally for that small part of the audience! Typical weirdos themselves projecting. That includes the person below me.
@@vonnblagaming984 well neuvillette is the real archon and god how satisfying it is to get neuvillette and skipping furina XD quickly become my main since day 1
I keep forgetting she's a bow user since she only uses it on one move in her normal attack. That's even worse than Liney and Kirara that use it for two. They could've all been catalists.
if you really wanna get technical, sigewinne would be the fifth hydro healer (after barbara, xingqiu, kokomi, furina), but nobody cares about xingqiu's healing and furina's healing is only used in co-op.
What exactly about her makes you think she's meant for BoL teams? That healing bonus that has no value because the on field BoL characters can't be healed while doing their BoL thing? She gives them nothing, and she gets nothing worthwhile while teamed with them. The BoL portion of her kit is pointless, a gimmick forced in probably by an upper management call, not for any sort of synergy/interesting game play.
@@Axterix13 Clorinde can use it.She can convert the healing to bol and use the healing bonus since she very squishy.Sigewinne mean to pair with furina anyway
@@Axterix13 if i recall correctly, Clorinde transfers healing to her own bol, making Clorinde and Sigewinne a great pair in some ways (almost like the current trend to use Qiqi with Clorinde) still, i agree that the bol is kind of random on Sigewinne, she doesn't really use it on herself other than the little bonus healing that could have been unconditional
@@aizamyusoff2114 Yes, but that's NOT something that says Siggy is meant for bond of life teams, like the OP said. That's part of Clorinde's kit, which gives her synergy with healers, despite her bond of life. And yes, Siggy is meant to work with Furina. However, I'd say that both Furina constellations (they open up the healers you can use effectively with her) and Xianyun are better to pick up for Furina reasons than Siggy is. The Furina healer tax is real, and you don't want to be forced into double hydro, especially with a second hydro that has lackluster hydro app. It would really limit your team building options, and you'd still find yourself typically using other healers. So, if you want a default healer to pair with Furina, the smarter choice for an F2P would be Xianyun, as anemo is useful for a variety of teams, neutral for others, and people like her for the open world as well.
So… something I realised from the skill damage improvement, it means that Emily loves Sigewinne, since you don’t want all too much if any hydro applications when using Emilie in the way she was designed but if you are going to add it it’s a pretty big help with burgeon, then add an on field pyro unit and your golden (my choice being yoimiya)
And the fourth slot you can do pretty much whatever, I tend to add a second dendro unit just for more reactions and the resonance but the choice is yours
I mainly pull for cuteness/personality, not power. I personally love how she and her attacks look so that’s the reason I will pull her. It’s also so cool to have a mélusine character.
Y'know, I wonder if we're in the future proofing phase of Fontaine. Like how characters like Yae Miko and Kuki didn't really have a purpose until Sumeru and all the Dendro characters came out. I wonder if we'll get a unique off field DPS character in Natlan at some point. Just a thought.
I don't think she's Dehya bad. As far as healers go, she's still competent. She just kind of falls flat compared to the likes of Baizhu and Kokomi. Unlike Dehya, she would feel right at home on a team with Furina still.
@@BlackoutdmcDehya is just a better support than her. She is limited banner healer when good 4 star healers like yao yao, barbara etc exists. Dehya is atleast good in some fontaine teams on top of being a standard banner, which means u dont need to waste primos for her.
@StillQiqiless dehya doesn't really provide anything that actually helps much with the team, other than damage mitigation and resistance to interruption. In my opinion, I wouldn't say she's worse than dehya but probably on par with her
I think siegwinne might be another case of a character that is released before their niche is actually available. Natlan will probably have more bond of life units with elemental skill dmg.
@@Bos_Meong Klee at least can deal some major damage with teams like Burgeon. It's just that no one likes her gameplay. Sigewinne outside of the overworld is extremely sub-par and lets face it, most players aren't struggling with the overworld, and the ones that are can simply lower their World Level.
She's clearly meant to be Furina's BIS healer, but then it kind of falls appart there. The fact that her skill damage boost is shared across allies is frankly egregious. They could have easily doubled if not tripled the stacks, or better yet have allies have their own stacks. Especially seeing as you're only getting up to 2,800 damage from it. Instead, they hide extra stacks behind her C1. God forbid you hit multiple enemies at once, now your stacks die out even faster! So if you're planning on pulling Seigwinne for the express purpose of building Furina up as much as possible, you effectively lock her out of several units, such as, Yae, Fischle, Kuki, Xiangling, Albedo, Chiori, Nahida, Raiden, Zhongli, Layla and others. These units will eat away potential stacks. If you're interested in pulling Seigwinne to buff up Furina, then just pull for Furina's C1, C2, and/or her weapon. Better investment. Though, she also is incredibly cute, so if you want to pull her for that reason, then more power to you. If you really want a hydro healer, and you're on the fence between Seigwinne and Kokomi, choose the later. Better, wider hydro application, more usage cases, access to TTODS.
the thing with Dehya is - you can at least get her cons by loosing 50/50 and I would argue she's less nishe to put in few teams but with Sigewinne you have to whale in order to upgrade her medicoreness so yeah... it's very dissapointing because I was thinking about getting her for Clorinde or future Natlan chars
@@hexnea that is actually the opposite for me. Dehya showing up by losing the 50/50 is not for "free" because primogems were used, it also means she showed up instead of the character I really wanted. Sigewinne only takes second place to being bad, because she is completely optional, not pulling at her banner = no Sigewinne. Dehya takes first place on being bad, because she forced onto my account by 50/50 loss even if I don't want her at all.
@@boiledliddo Dehya have some Fontaine synergies : Mono Pyro Lyney, Overload Chevreuse, Burgeon with Neuvi/Furina, Clorinde can also use her. Just look at other standard banner chars, they are not high tier but they get boosted and get synergized teams such as Diluc/Xianyun, Jean/Furina, Dehya/Neuvillete (with a Dendro), Qiqi/Clorinde, Tighnari/any Electro. So now Sigewinne is the one that suffer lack of team mates as now.
Dehya works well with burgeon. She has multiple teams that can utilize her offield skill. However, sigewine only does teamwide heal. Thats it. Cant be hydro driver, no off field hydro application. Her ult does negligible damage as well. She makes dehya looks good
Hoyocreators seem contractually obligated not to call out a bad unit when they see one. "Go crazy if you want to use her in the open world" bro just tell people to save their currency and use any 4 star healer instead
we all understand what creators really mean when they say that, why ruin any chance of partnership being overly negative? why does that make you so angry?
As a viewer, I'd prefer TH-cam content to be as unbiased as possible. Being critical shouldn't be shunned as "overly negative" or "toxic" when it's deserved
@@A_Lo_Pex It’s way safer for creators to be cautious when outright calling anything bad. The genshin fandom is known to be toxic and abusive towards creators, devs, voice actors, etc. No reason to foster more negativity and risk people going after them. Again, we know what they’re really saying, literally zero reason to have to spoon feed you their opinion.
@@A_Lo_Pex Thing is, over world has a lot of appeal to many players. People always bring up the vertical mobility of a bunch of the anemo units, the speed of Yelan and Sayu, and so on. And when I run around in the open world, I do pretty much always have a healer that can heal with E. Kuki is a staple for that reason, and my Furina, despite being C6, is typically just set to healer mode for the open world just to drop the E if I need to top up health. It's a valid selling point to characters, and the opposite of things like "Klee is clunky". Quality of life matters. And it makes sense. A typical player spends a tiny portion of their playtime in floor 12 of the Abyss. And a lot don't even do it at all. So a content creator saying, "She's not looking to be META, but her being a team-wide E based healer could have value for the open world for you" is properly covering a character. A guide shouldn't be telling a person how and what to play. What a good one does do is inform the viewer about the pros and cons of the character, so the viewer can make an informed decision as to what they want to do with their recreational time.
I can understand peoples concerns about clorinde. Saying her design was less detailed then navia. Saying she was another keqing But then the whole community absolutely loved her play style and wide team comps from Physical skyward blade with superconduct with qiqi Overloaded with tohma (c6) normal attack boost now useful, and chevruze Aggravate dendro like reverse alhitham with nahida and fischl And electrocharged with yelan or kokomi But no hate against sigiwine, it’s not comparable to furina or yelan with hydro application, or healing like kokomi. You can even build a yelan healer if you wanted to heal your team and still have the hydro damage as sigiwine. There are better unites and unfortunately this character was listed as a 5 star.
real man, Chiori was so disappointing despite her potential. Their character design team is cool, their kit design team is the one holding the characters back
She’s literally perfect for what I needed, I’ve been needing a a healer like her ever since baizhu came out. Kokomis nice and all but her healing is too annoying to deal with for my team comps. Her skill requires staying still, and her burst heal is energy reliant and needs field time. I loved baizhu when he came o it cause he had none of these issues, his skill can heal from anywhere and his burst shields AND heals with no field time needed. Sigwienne can heal from her skill alone from off field without hindering my movements without being burst reliant and that’s all I needed from a healer. Barbara has too long a skill cooldown and but burst is energy hungry, jeans burst is also energy hungry, Charlotte is also energy hungry, and yaoyao requires field time. Sigwienne and baizhu are def my top picks for healers
Even if she somehow becomes meta with future updates it won't matter as the meta we meant was for the abyss and with it gone theres no need for a real meta anymore
Most likely after her release we will get a 4* HP scaled bow, plus we have 2 more nations to go through so we DEF will. She honestly isnt THAT bad I mean when I heard niche I thought of Nilou. And im in desperate NEED of a healer Im using barbara who is honestly a VERY good healer at c6. But im very surprised after going through 5 nations we have yet to get a hp bow thats 4*
She is okay-ish in her niche buffing E dmg and a healer. Yeah she doesn't really have good teams now. But just like other healers that were first released and get doom-posted (Kokomi, Baizhu, Kuki, Xianyun,...) I would say just look forward to how the Natlan units team comps working i mean she potentially could give ally some BoL
Agree agree especially she comes out in patches nearing natlan and in fontaine the only BoL chara we got is arle and clorinde, or.. she could be a dehya situation i really hope not tho
@@sunglassfrog89 Well Dehya is actually a lot better now than her release 😂 She is not top tier or anything but a decent choice really. The main thing people always ignore is they are Defensive supports giving resistance to interruption/ healing whole team,... People generally just want to see big numbers/ buffing Giga dmg when these units were not designed for that... Mono pyro team with Lyney, burn melt team, or potentially burning team with Emilie the next patch
Future impact sucks. You are pulling for a character and yet not sure if she will be good, not now but in the future? On top of gambling on getting the said character in the first place.
IMO The problem now with Genshin is that there are many characters who do the same thing as older characters only the numbers are getting bigger...and the problem with 5 star healers is that 4 star healers just work fine...i usually don't need Benette or yaoyao for healer slot
Ah now I see why Mihoyo paired Furina with her. They knew she’s not marketable so this is probably the reason why they delayed Furina’s rerun. Furina was really supposed to be at ver 4.6 probably at phase2 but they somehow think that having Baizhu or Wonderer run with Sigewinne won’t make them enough profit and with this banner combination it’s gonna be the weakest banner sale among all. It’s kinda the same as Xianyun’s banner, her patch got carried by Nahida’s rerun. I’m assuming that Furina will 2nd rerun accordingly to how they rerun the previous archons like in every version .6, so like Zhongli-Venti-Pyro Archon Debut-Raiden-Nahida- then Furina.
I'm surprised that Furina, Kazuha, Neuvi team isn't mentioned here, that seems to be her best comp. There's one thing that wasn't mentioned in this video, Neuvilette can consume droplets created by Sigewinne, giving him an extra CA without using skill or burst
I already accepted that Hoyo likes making a character now and turns to be really good in future patches. This happened before just like kokomi and baizhu(people saying they are trash or 3 stars when first release), and look how good they are now, even meta when looking at data. Im not really against this, if Hoyo really makes a character useful in later patches, then its fine with me
I mean all they have to do is add a Hydro character that relies heavily on skill based damage and that requires a good amount of healing to function....oh wait. ;) More seriously though, besides Furina, I feel like Sigewinne will be interesting to pair with some low skill-damage characters for some niche builds. Like I can totally imagine someone running a Cinnabar Spindle QiQi with Sigewinne, Furina, and maybe on-field Zhongli buffing her for some silly numbers with QiQi's skill. It is just a shame though that you almost need C1 or C2 for her to even be remotely viable in any "serious" manner.
1. TC community never said Kokomi and Baizhu were bad. Only the casuals that know nothing about the game did. 2. Kokomi got a very last minute change to her jellyfish hydro app ICD and that was the whole reason she became meta. So many people didnt know about that untill 1-2 weeks into her release. Nowdays, not even Kokomi is meta. 3. Baizhu had way less value back when he releaed due to the role he was supposed cover was already covered by Yaoyao and after, Kirara. He only gained value with Furina and still to this day is pretty reliant on Furina to be in the meta.
I really liked her character in the story and how her presentation towards the world was a deliberate choice. Skipped couple of previous banners for. But now… As a casual f2p who played for years and has a large base of already developed characters, I can’t justify pulling for her 😢
Tfw I'm a hardcore Navia Main and I only feel a slight temptation for her, because I see that Navia-Furina-Chiori-Sigewinne Team I could recreate xD But nah, I don't think I'm gonna replace my Xianyun for Sigewinne in that team
@@Anika9691 Navia with Xianyun hits like a truck, especially since Navia's skill does Geo infusion. I haven't run the numbers, but I've heard some people say it's even her strongest, or at least like top 3 strongest teams
Sigewinne could work on a Neuvillete team, although you'd lose Neuvillete's passive, it could give him more field time. This could only work on few floors of abyss, like when there's pyro or electro slimes. The enemies with self applied element, It's definetely a damage loss for Neuvillete.
people were bashing baizhu when he came out but with furinas release hes good now. i suppose sigewinne will only ger better with natlans release. besides people would still be pressed if she was a 4* because they wouldnt find a use for her anyway. the yapping never stops
@@kyuzairen5383 I don’t really think so… Meta can certainly be good at some point. But for instance, there are players who want to play with their favourite characters. When they realised that their main didn’t really do a great job, like bad kits or other players’ opinions, some will just follow what other people say and stop playing what they enjoyed to. So like sigewinne situation for now, I saw like 90% of people saying that she is bad. And I am sure there are already people, who started off wanting to main her, but ended up being told that she ain’t worth it. And I mean that’s the point where meta is really kicking things off, where people tend to play with meta rather than enjoying their main. And like in the past, players could just play whoever they want without knowing who is good or bad. But I know that meta is inevitable, like characters will powercrept patch after patch. Some players are just going for the highest dps and the most efficient way to play this game without enjoyment, and they have their own way to go and I respect that. But like in the end, does it even matter when you don’t even enjoy what you play? So just play what you want and move on.
Does she stack with Mona, as Stellaris Phantasm should be an off-field perk, no? Mona's not perfect, but she's decent at Hydro application, so that may create a cooperative effect. Curious about something like Nilou-Nahida-Mona-Siegewinne Bloom team
Well, for this bloom team, why use Seigwinne when you could use Kokomi? No onr is realistically taking advantage of the one thing Seigwinne provides here, wich is her E damage boost. 95% of this team's damage makeup will be blooms.
@@Blackoutdmc and whose skill damage will she even help boost mona? Literally neglible, nahida? Dude she needs aggravate otherwise every characters damage in a nilou bloom team is negligible as her special bloom mostly do the damage and other is for sustaining and heal, Stop the cope and I would rather save primo than wasting on dreaming if she can give any utility which is non existent
@Blackoutdmc yeah, I haven't looked into Siegewinne much, but wasn't sure if she boosted Bloom damage as well, which one top of Mona buff and Nilou buff, could result in a significant hit in theory. Honestly for passive-attack Skills, it seems like Chiori would be the better bet - I just keep hoping someone will do for Mona what Xianyun did for Diluc/Xiao
I'd thought Siegewinne boosted any off-field effect, not Skills specifically; therefore Mona's effect would be boosted as well. Sadly she's really limited by the rare number of single-hit damage skills/bursts, and being out-scaled on a basic stat level. Pity, as Mona is one of my favorites by playstyle.
About Babs mainly for F2P players (but everyone can probably use this info, I use her all the time and I'm not F2P): People keep saying Babs is bad but shes really not, lol. There are definitely teams in which I prefer using babs over kokomi. You have to hug the opponent to apply hydro? Not if you use her normal attacks, which heal your entire team if her E is up. I was mind-blown when a friend who likes barbara a lot didnt even know that. And a melee character often benefits from it too as they get close enough. Her E also helps with stamina management. Important if you dodge a lot. Unlike kokomi she also has a resurrection (at C6; ive played since the start so I've had that for a long time) and her normals travel instantly. kokomi's fish take travel time. Currently I have built her with about 1050 EM pre-buffs in a niloubloom team with kirara. She can apply all the hydro needed easily, deals huge bloom damage, heals the entire team while she's at it and in the unlikely event someone dies they resurrect. She's actually amazing. I find kokomi only better when I need more off-field hydro alplication, but her jellyfish still wont help an archer or apply much to a moving target. Kokomis heals are better, but if I build babs for healing then her burst actually heals more in less time than Kokomi does for me. Kokomi C2, Babs C6. I get that you were talking about healing capacity and babs can get you frozen more easily, but people really need to stop sleeping on babs, which is why I wrote this up ^^ she's actually a great F2P unit. Even at C0. IIRC her healing doesnt increase much through constellations, only the C3 and C5 do that a bit. The rest is energy regen and the res at C6. My buddy is a new player and he keeps saying he needs a better healer, but I took his account for a spin in the abyss and barely even built babs of c0 lvl 70 with not even capped talents for that level range and an artifact setup without proper set bonus and substats (he did give her 3 lvl 20 hp% main stats) provides enough healing to breeze through floor 11 (one team had bennett and xingqiu, the other had just babs and was fine).
The biggest reason to pull and use her could have been her skill dmg buff, but hoyo really don't want us having fun, so these pitiful 10 stacks, that are shared for whole team is stupid....
@@usmanya5110 well so what? She has to provide something special on top of healing to earn place in the team. There are too many other great units to place instead of her.
@@RavenShugo that's what's saddening cause if it isn't limited. Taser could probably be meta again and she found a way she could excel in.😭😭 .actually know that i just thought about it i kinda wished she was an electro charged chevreusse
@@RavenShugo agreed, that's what's saddening cause if it isn't limited. Taser could probably be good again and she would found a way where she could excel in.😭😭 .actually know that i just thought about it i kinda wished she was an electro charged chevreusse
@@usmanya5110 yeap, it's sad, that hoyo constantly adding too much restrictions, so we cannot play units in any other way, but how they want it... Genshin already showed it's not some skill based hardcore game, but a waifu/husbando collector, so I see no point to limit 5stars so hard...
One team that i thought would be fun would be heizou faruzan/fischl siegwiene furina. Faruzan if u wanna go heizou hypercarry. Fischl if u wanna do tazer
I’m wondering if maybe she would be good on a clorinde team. Clorinde prefers quick bloom where blooms are nice but not mandatory so slow hydro application isn’t an issue. Clorindes bond of life would buff siegewinnes healing which in turn would give clorinde even more bond of life and her passive would boost fischls damage. Honestly feels like they were matched pretty well for each other
You know hoyo doesn’t care when they make a healer character with an ultimate that lasts as long as the ult animation and does nothing other than damage…
It seems to me like she was designed to be a quickswap DPS in a double-DPS team, she just doesn't synergise with anyone... yet. I can def see it though, her healing is good enough to build her with crit. She consolidates DPS and healer roles. You play her with another quickswap DPS like her plus two other off-field DPSs. Only thing that doesn't fit is her (lack of) hydro app, but you can play her with Furina ig. Perhaps we're looking at a future character that can buff her dmg in turn. Double DPS comp.
What do you mean she doesn't synergize with anyone? It's even specifically stated that she synergizes with Furina right in the video you're commenting on (yes it's really just one character so far, but that is more than no one). Sigewinne can be paired with Furina in almost any party that can use a Duo Hydro that uses Furina. Furina herself already has just above average hydro application. So with Sigewinne's bit of extra hydro application, there is generally more than enough Hydro aura's applied. Sigewinne ensures easy quick fanfare stacks with her quite amazing team healing while also buffing Furina's summons by an average of +50% DPS before reactions (and Furina's DPS is quite good).
@@blackkat101 You misunderstand, I know she synergises with Furina, I was talking about synergy with a similar quickswap DPS or something like that. Not sure how good she is with Navia, I don't have either of them.
@@gaming_zealot5428 I dont know what the OP meant by "she looks cute" as in an affectionate way or...that way...iykyk.. But calling someone cute doesn't automatically make you a "pedo". its like calling your newborn baby brother cute but you get called a "pedo" in public. BUUUUT. If the OP meant it in THAT way,we ain't defending him on this one.
You can use Sigewinne and Furina together, and then add a subdps and a main dps on top. Or use Yelan and Furina, with Jean and a main dps (e.g. Raiden) for an objectively better team. Jean even provides 40% RES shred, more than C2 Sigewinne, and can deal much higher damage for just 1 second fieldtime.
@@marcusvinicius917 I can't say if Chlorinde is as much bad as you're saying (tho I can't say whether she's super-duper great from personal experience either since I don't have her). Most other Fontaine characters just became the best character for their elements or made an element work with others like Neuvillette and Arlecchino are now just the best hydro and pyro main dps and Furina is the best hydro buffer and sub-dps whereas Navia made Geo work with other elements making Geo wayyyy more useful than it was. That doesn't mean Chlorinde became that bad or "second worse" or smth. She just didn't become the best of her element and Raiden still is a great electro character cuz you can use Raiden as both sub-dps and main dps whereas Chlorinde is just for main dps. From what I've seen that doesn't rlly seem to be a problem and she's considered a rlly great character too from her release. I don't rlly see what you mean by her being second worse or smth (and idk abt Wriothesley cuz I never rlly searched abt how he works so idk abt him). Most Fontaine characters are just too broken lol but Chlorinde is considered one of the best electro main dps characters by many and so she WAS worth-pulling for unlike what the OP was saying abt Arlecchino being the last one worth pulling.
@@Meh-yb9sw if all the characters are better, wriothesley is the worst, and she is next to him, she's the second worse. The mere fact that you can't say she is on the same category of other Fontaine proves that. Even wriothesley might be good when Natlan drops, then she will be the worst Fontaine character. She is as strong as a 2.x character. The fact you said that she is worth pulling is crazy, ngl. Pulling for a 5 limited unit that does just a little better than Keqing and does worse than keqing with high constellation is crazy, pulling a electro unit that is average at best, when Furina and Alhaitham are better options, or saving for Natlan is also crazy. The only world where Clorinde is worth, it's when you have Nahida c2.
I think Sigewinne was made for future comps in mind. Her burst is kinda useless for any utility but I can see purpose in her elemental skill with the healing and the pretty minute Covalence buff. I know her hydro applicatioj very much sucks, but if we are to look ahead and see that Emilie is a burning focused character, then a burning meta would insist that your hydro supports shouldnt steal vapes from a forward vape dps, be it on field or off field (like Furina). Its like how Thoma is an issue with stealinf some vapes in a Hu Tao team with Thoma shielder. So lets say that Murata aka Pyro archon has Xiangling burst as a skill, and Bennett's burst for her burst but no circle impact. Everything else is left the same, meaning the way they function- snapshotting, no ICD, atk buffing based on base atk, yada yada. Thus, Sigewinne would actually be a good support vs Kokomi because one, few forward vapes are stolen; 2. Covalence stacks buffing an on-skill Pyronado or Furina's Chadalletta. So a team of Sigewinne, Furina, Emilie, and Pyro Archon would suffice as a burnvape team. The truth is, we only ever see one side of the coin that is vaporize until recently. How the reaction is coded weighs heavily on heads as it i more consistent. It takes the burnign reaction to enable Neuv to vape. It takes Klee's amount of pyro app to get Furina to vape. So you either need pyro Xingqiu for forward vape or pretty infrequent hydro to get forward vape. Sigewinne applies pretty little hydro app but thats fine considering you want the hydro off/on field dps to apply hydro on burning enemies instead.
Hoyo really need to pull it together. They’re obviously are just throwing characters for the sales and not thinking about the overall experience of players pulling for these new characters.
I am seeing so many people say Sigewinne is basically a 4 star, if not lower. I feel like we go through this every 8-10 months when a niche unit is released. This exact same thing happened with Kokomi. Everyone said she was trash/pointless, but as more and more characters came out and her kit worked with them, shes now one of the best characters in the game. The same thing is likely to happen to sigewinne her value will improve over time. You dont have to wish for her if you dont want to yall. But in a year's time, you may be surprised you might be wishing for her when her value improves, if not skyrockets.
lol, Kokomi has a lot more in her kit than Sigewinne. Most actual theory crafters thought she had a decent kit just not very useful and doomposters saying no crit = bad. What sigewinne has is only healing, and a bubble to stun things. Kokomi was helped by dendro, and what does Sigewinne have? I don't see any specific targeted synergy that works with and only with Sigewinne that would not also buff Kokomi. Dehya after like 10 patches with a signiture set still is sub-par, and i could see natlan helping her a bit whereas sigewinne has basically no specialility. You can pull for her if you want, but don't act like it is an investment. She is not going to be good, and your whole comment is just coping
Kokomi can *absolutely* be a furina team wide healer while off-field. All you need to do is give her Prototype Amber and use her burst. I've cleared this abyss with Koko-Furina, Prot. Amber's healing gets boosted both by Koko's healing bonus as well as Furina's burst so it has no trouble keeping the team at full health at R5. I also don't like using TTDS on Kokomi since it forces you to use her last just before swapping to your main DPS 🤷♂
REMEMBER GUYS... People doompost Baizhu too back in the day when he came out... Ill say we need to wait till natlan came out to see how Hoyo handle her gameplay... I know Future Impact is sometimes sucks, but hey... at least this is not like Dehya situation...
This is said whenever a new character is released lol. It would make sense if the problem with Sigewinne was that she does something new and different that's not useful in any team. Then they could release characters that COULD utilize her unique mechanics. But that's not the thing. The thing is she does almost nothing, and what she does do is meh. She heals a lot, which is cool, but she provides nothing more than that. Her Skill DMG buff is negligible, her Hydro application is terrible, and her Burst DMG is bad and not worth spending time on. There is literally nothing Hoyo could do to make her better other than straight up change her kit.
@@m_milos I mean... Thats true... But again... People seems forget that Baizhu also got these kind of "Mehh" Response from the Community... Like how his Shield is bad (even got compared by some 4-star Shielder), his Dendro App are not that good, didnt fix Cyno problem, and he always got compared by Yaoyao and Kokomi (litterally like Sigewine) But now... He is basically the Best Healer for Neuvi+Furi+Kazu team...
@Wiradika1414 Well, if a character needs a future character to have their worth be seen (Baizhu with Furina), then they're not good to begin with. At this point, if you have the likes of Kokomi, Baizhu, Jean, or even a well built Yaoyao or Barbara, there is no reason to pull for her, well except if you really like her character and that's all tbh😢
I don't think the situation will be the same here. Problem is, Sigewinme is a hydro healer, and we already have 2 of them. And one of them is already great to begin with. I mean, sure, maybe in the future, we will get a character who uses BoL, but even then, Sigewinne's Bol is very small, so I don't think it will help (+ is quite late already) Sure, Sigewinne is not another Dehya, but I doubt she will receive the same redemption as Baizhu and Kokomi.
Uhh... so I apologize for this but it seems like I made a BIG mistake regarding 16:55 where I say Sigewinne will be available as a Trial unit from Special Guest Stars pool in Imaginarium Theater. It seems like you actually need to HAVE her in order to use characters from Special Guest Star pool. My bad T_T
cant you use other people's characters as well?
@@yanyanyannn_problem is… no one will have her lol
@@yanyanyannn_ You can borrow a friend character, but that character needs to be on-element (so here, pyro/electro/anemo).
no problem, i thought that's how it worked too. thanks for clearing that up.
They should have committed to full support sigewine
When she was first introduced in the story, I was expecting her to be a 4 Star character to released alongside either Wriothesley or Neuvillette banner. Yet here we are, after such a long delay in releasing her, Mihoyo in their infinite wisdom decided to sell a 4 Star level characters as a 5 Star character yet again!
Gaming: am i a joke to u?
And sethos a 5 star potential released as 4star ( who fought head to head with cyno in lore 🗿)
They did the first playable Melusine dirty man which is a shame because i love Melusine because they're cute :(
@@VOID-0-l4bWhat about Candace literally alhaitham,cyno,dehya, teacher
@CurseOxuin Same man. When I first arrive to Fontaine, the first thing I saw was a cute melusine and wondered if one of them would be playable.
The dissappointment I have with how this turned it is... a lot
what irritates me most is how after all these years, our hydro 4* roster is PITIFUL. kingqiu is still one of the best if not the best character in the game, and im not expecting them to release another one of him, but it's actually offensive our ONLY new 4* hydro in all the past few years is CANDACE. fontaine, the land of hydro, didnt give us any. imo sigewinne really should have been a 4* but no matter what she feels a bit redundant and gimmicky. and also i find it annoying how they give us so many hp scaling characters and yet that's a huge niche we're missing from weapons substats.
Very ironic that the best element (as well as one of, if not the most versatile) has the worst 4⭐️ treatment.
Tbh candace is great but potential is lack beyond c6 and yes till now xinqiu is the only 4 star hydro sup dps lol
@@vincesetnuef492 great is generous 😭 she only has utility at c6 that I know of and it’s for Arlecchinos team and her damage is negligible it’s just the hydro app
@@ctran1955 I guess Im biased with the thought on arle team but hydro AOE just felt superior sometimes than single target situation plus that 30% damage boost on NA is good
Well as XQ and Barbara are both broken as f they struggled to make a "decent" 4 star.
If you are unaware that Barbara is broken even though she was one of the only few characters that ever got nerfed since 1.0, then good to you. She is still broken IMHO, most people just don't understand how to exploit her skill to produce virtually unlimited hydro application (even after the nerf).
Although I would agree that Candace suck, she really should grant interruption resistance like XQ or Baidou to be worth using for most teams.
I would've loved her to work with Wriothesley because of the how Neuvilette and Furina work so well together and story wise they should have worked together but that's just me and also.....she should've been a four star and the only people I see wishing for her are collectors or people who enjoy her as a character
True. I only want her due to her character design but I don’t know if I’ll ever use her considering how disappointing she is 😢
She would have never truly worked with Wriothesley given she has a hydro vision. Wriothesley is a melt dps, while he can be played in freeze it's going to significantly worsen his damage. And Furina basically works with everyone if you just put marecheusse on them which of course also applies to Neuvilette but not only to him but close to every character
@@ChiIIi... nah they can work around her kit, but just lazed around and hard-headed. Classic genshin team move, unless chinese will riot like zhongli's kit.
I'm still rolling her entirely to put her next to Wrio in my abyss teams. I'll force it to work.
A freeze meta returning right before Natlan with Wrio and Sigewinne at the forefront would've been cool, but oh well...
Unless natlan somehow pulls up with a new mechanic that can make better use of sigewinne, I'll assume the main use of sigewinne that mhy intended was really moreso for overworld utility. A bow hydro that can heal every party member on E? Yeah, that's like 3 overworld utility in 1 basically, bow for all the bow puzzles, a hydro available for anytime you need it with charged shot, and E healing for all the little fights you get into for the treasure chest. And overworld enemies are easy enough that furina+sigewinne buff will probably finish them off without you even needing to do anything extra. Whether that pretty niche overworld utility is worth it or not (especially when yelan fulfills 2 of it too with her own great overworld utility) well.....
and this isn't me trying to say Sigewinne's kit is suddenly justified, bcs she could have still done all this + have use in meta by, well yaknow giving every party member separate buff hit points/increased buff dmg. whatever happened with sigewinne's kit is still really sad.
As a healer lover I.... ofc I really really REALLY wished Sigewinne could have been way better but after Baizhu (and I mean Baizhu before neuvilette/furina release where his teams were.... Great but still largely considered just a QoL yaoyao) I learned to appreciate the comfyness of E skill party healers and just loving them for being useful (to me) nonetheless, even if it wasn't in Abyss. That's just my 2 cents on it tho.
Like you mentioned Yelan. I mean her sprint skill while regenerating stamina is the only way I get by in the open world. I can't run without her. Pretty sad really.
Then if one wants interruption resist or heals one could consider Dehya, then you get the 2-hander for ores as well.
Then you can just take whatever rest you want.
My teams are more or less always: Main dps Kuki(heal), Yelan, Raiden. Kuki and raiden helps battery, Yelan with high crit and fav bow, Then any dps and you can handle pretty much anything on the map no matter what type. Preferrably not an electro main dps as raiden can substitute for it but, no big deal anyway with yelan. Running usually with Eula as main dps. She has inbuilt interruption resist and a 2-hander.
yeah but if you need overworld easy healing, Kuki is already perfect.
I very much understand this perspective. In a way, Sigewinne is the 5* version of Sayu, the overworld utility character.
I do say, that Natlan could cook up some buffs for Sigewinne. I doubt Bond of Life mechanic ends on a low note with Sigewinne, and we got to see how healing and BoL interact with each other, either not at all via Arlecchino, or as conversion via Clorinde. If we get some teamwide BoL buffer with clorinde healing interaction, then Sigewinne can be pretty good.
I think the missing piece of the puzzle is basically a buffer with BoL, given the BoL is affected by healing and affects the amount of a buff.
It would be mutual benefits for each other- Sigewinne giving more BoL via healing, and said BoL-based buffer buffing the additional dmg from Covalence stacks.
*sighs*…… future setup for a character is lame for this game.
Maybe this is a copium on my part but isn't it possible that most natlan characters will be centered as being hypercarry sub dps that can utilize sigewinne's buff? Idk this part of her kit is just bizarre, it almost seems like it's planned
She is not available as a trial in Imaginarium theatre, she is a special guest character if you have her. It's bait to pull her as the only possible hydro.
Dawg just release her as a 4 star. Her entire kit is below mediocre even for 4 star standards. Besides hydro NEEDS more 4 stars since we only have three 4 stars till now.
Nah she should be a 3 star
@@zanroellames8198😂 bro she ain't that bad considering characters like Xinyan, amber and aloy still exist. Atleast she provides comfy healing, but absolutely not 5 star worthy.
I feel like ive seen you in other videos of sigewinne already. Am i wrong?
@@rebbudesu5088 Ur not wrong
@@rebbudesu5088 Same here. I've seen this person commenting on several other videos. I guess they REALLY don't like Sigewinne.
Ive seen many people compare Sigewinne with what happened to Kokomi when she first came out, saying she will be good when new characters release and we learn to play her. The thing is, kokomi was always good, its just that
1. Her weapon and constellations try to make her a main dps, which can be good, but not as good as support kokomi
2. She cant crit, and back then huge numbers were everything
It would be true if we only looked into sigewienne's bubble and burst damage, ignored her healing and synergy with furina (and everything after 5:28) and called her a "bad dps" who needs her c4 for her damage to be good, and months later find out she can heal.
与kokomi相比，sigewinne相当无用，她的技能甚至不值得称为五星角色。
I think we are ignoring the most important thing about her kit yet that we havent seen before on any other char, The increase to off field dmg, now dont get me wrong. The chars that this thing benefit are so limited, also since its 10 uses only makes her a complete joke with them, but hear me out. what if at the future they do release a char that has like 2 or 3 off field attacks that are nukes, something we dont have yet. ofc rn shes almost useless but prolly there is something goin on post fontainte.
@@GOMAFrighteven then, she would still be bad cuz her buff itself is pretty weak.
@@deltaspecies1697 The buff can be pretty good in the right hands. If it was aimed at buffing Furina forward vape damage, then we would be onto something since the additional dmg buff also takes into account EM and the reaction multiplier buff.
But at the current moment, we hardly have any means to go by with either forward vape or reverse vaping off-field skill dmg. I know it is only 10 hits of the buff, but that could be pretty substantial on few but heavy hitting hits and maybe even low field time buffs. If Murata has pyronado attached to the elemental skill, then even Mona finds compatibility with Sigewinne since the burst duration will fit well with how long the covalence buff count will last. It may take 6 seconds to consume all 10 stacks.
I AGREE. I don't even have Kokomi but I'm praying she gets a rerun soon becasue she's one of the best hydro supports for HYDRO APPLICATION, and she does decent heals on top of that. Sigewinne doesn't have any of these things. Skill healing is good but like... make her a dedicated healer. I don't need her burst to do damage if she's a healer. They should've made it something like Baizhu's ult... something that does heals. Crazy concept I know.
Damn!
This is the worst character I've ever tried in the trial.
It took ages for me to defeat everybody...
Then ubused her wrong i had mo issue
My problem with her isbshe isba on field hydro aplicstor means once she swapes of field she wont apply any more new hydro so i went for furina instad even though i like her less inmean as a chaeachter/ charwchter design
At first inthought sigwinn would feel as stiff and draggy as klee but this was not the case
Nmbut of field suports are clearly mire valuable and her little demage when she is on field foesnt really helpnthis at all
I also found her painfully weak in the trial. But she works epicly in my team (Klee/nahida/yae miko/sigewinne). She upped Mikos dmg by about 71% from kokomi.. which is a lot more than getting her from C3 to C6 did
你说得对，她可能是最糟糕的角色，也许是首个推出的3星角色
In trail she can't solo you have to use other characters with her ..I didn't like the experience..and her burst is so short 🤦🏻♀️
I'm still mind blown that she's a 5 star??? My bro even like " who would waste their money to buy primos just to pull this crap ??"
I can't even refute him 😔
I really hope shes another Kokomi, where we only found out her true potential after months and other units came out, and that she wont stay this bad.
I really hope her mechanic of applying bond of life will be useful in the future
As someone who never hated kokomi like u guys i highly doubt it bro
Not sure what could save her though. This kit is blasphemy.
@@LucasLima-qk1lw The difference is Kokomi already have a solid kit since beginning. The doompost most of the time is just "no crit no damage" when in reality she already deals good damage even as a healer and she is also in one of the best taser comp.
Now nothing on sijwin kit is actually good, or even solid aside from her healing
Im not even sure what Hoyo could do for her. Plus Kokomi was never bad just the community didn't really understand how she was valuable. While Clam did buff her I would argue that what it really did was have people take a second look at Kokomi. I don't really see something similar happening for Sigewinne especially since we are going to be leaving Fontaine soon.
@@muhammadrafif1871 I mean, Im not getting her, im just trying to see the point of her even being in the in the first place. The point is, at the time Kokomi was launched, there were no incentive to use her as there wasnt enemies that de-encourage you to use shields (wolfs and husks) neither Furina, because at the time, having a strong shield was infinitly better than having a full party heal. Maybe we dont see her full potential because theres no need for a hydro healer that applies bond of life now
So she basically has no teams at C0, and becomes mini neuvillette at C6.
Sounds she was made for a certain audience, I hope they have fun with her lol
Drake fans definitely pulling for her 😂. Metaslave ain't even gonna look at her.
Ye i enjoy her sm outside the game shes in
I’m gonna afk with her
@@TheZWolf yes. whale p£do doesnt exists
Yeah, nevermind how every girl wants her because she's smol and adorable. Yeah she totally for that small part of the audience!
Typical weirdos themselves projecting. That includes the person below me.
100% to be honest this is one of the best banner, because its an easy skip you’re gonna save 6k+ primos
No way people skip Furina, one of the best if not the best supports in the game.
@@bastidotaif you have furina this banner is dead in literally every single way
I’m gonna be rich in Natlan 🙏
@@bastidota not my fault if they skipped Furina, the literal Archon hahaha!
@@vonnblagaming984 well neuvillette is the real archon and god how satisfying it is to get neuvillette and skipping furina XD quickly become my main since day 1
I got C1 Neuv and C2 Furina. I'm perfectly set to skip the banner
We're saving for Natlan with this one 🗣🔥
lmfaoo fr I’m so disappointed
Well, I'll be getting her regardless even if she's mediocre. I prefarmed for her after all. And i really want her character card. It's so cute!
Same!
@syaf_jpg 🥰 I'm living in co op for weeks to get that character card!
and this is why rest of us cant have nice things. dam those ped.... loli lovers
lol enjoy yourself i guess
i thought she was 4 star, oh come on, please make a 4 star hydro bow user
theres a mummy girl that is speculated to be a hydro bow. shes rl pretty i hope shell be a 4*❤
@@-mika18-who?
@@-mika18-now i really start thinking that they reworked this "mummy girl" into Sethos
I keep forgetting she's a bow user since she only uses it on one move in her normal attack.
That's even worse than Liney and Kirara that use it for two. They could've all been catalists.
imagine infinite res to interuption in SUPPORT/HEALER unit now isnt that crazy
While dps: falling in middle of attack without c1 or shield 😮
hmm.. i wonder who could do that since version 1.0, except better in most ways
Hmmmm. I wonder if a certain wind boy and a boy with blue hair.
"Third hydro healer"
Furina: 👁👄👁
Most people don't focus on Furina's healing anyway. Heck, sometimes I even forget she can heal.
if you really wanna get technical, sigewinne would be the fifth hydro healer (after barbara, xingqiu, kokomi, furina), but nobody cares about xingqiu's healing and furina's healing is only used in co-op.
Rip
@@feryisthis Haha yeah forgot about Xingqiu xD
And hydro tr- *gets shot*
She’s clearly meant for bol teams but kinda wish her burst was longer or her hydro shred was part of passive even if weaker.
What exactly about her makes you think she's meant for BoL teams? That healing bonus that has no value because the on field BoL characters can't be healed while doing their BoL thing? She gives them nothing, and she gets nothing worthwhile while teamed with them. The BoL portion of her kit is pointless, a gimmick forced in probably by an upper management call, not for any sort of synergy/interesting game play.
@@Axterix13 Clorinde can use it.She can convert the healing to bol and use the healing bonus since she very squishy.Sigewinne mean to pair with furina anyway
@@Axterix13 if i recall correctly, Clorinde transfers healing to her own bol, making Clorinde and Sigewinne a great pair in some ways (almost like the current trend to use Qiqi with Clorinde)
still, i agree that the bol is kind of random on Sigewinne, she doesn't really use it on herself other than the little bonus healing that could have been unconditional
@@aizamyusoff2114 Yes, but that's NOT something that says Siggy is meant for bond of life teams, like the OP said. That's part of Clorinde's kit, which gives her synergy with healers, despite her bond of life.
And yes, Siggy is meant to work with Furina. However, I'd say that both Furina constellations (they open up the healers you can use effectively with her) and Xianyun are better to pick up for Furina reasons than Siggy is. The Furina healer tax is real, and you don't want to be forced into double hydro, especially with a second hydro that has lackluster hydro app. It would really limit your team building options, and you'd still find yourself typically using other healers. So, if you want a default healer to pair with Furina, the smarter choice for an F2P would be Xianyun, as anemo is useful for a variety of teams, neutral for others, and people like her for the open world as well.
overall feels more like the BoL in her kit is just there to make here weapon more niche
You know who else can provide hydro shred? Barbara.
Also, Xianyun, Jean, and Sayu.
barbara provides hydro dmg bonus at c2, it's xq who provides res shred
Actually she can’t. She buffs hydro damage only at c2
Water boy c4
So… something I realised from the skill damage improvement, it means that Emily loves Sigewinne, since you don’t want all too much if any hydro applications when using Emilie in the way she was designed but if you are going to add it it’s a pretty big help with burgeon, then add an on field pyro unit and your golden (my choice being yoimiya)
And the fourth slot you can do pretty much whatever, I tend to add a second dendro unit just for more reactions and the resonance but the choice is yours
Nice idea! Cool cooking. 🤘
I mainly pull for cuteness/personality, not power. I personally love how she and her attacks look so that’s the reason I will pull her. It’s also so cool to have a mélusine character.
Y'know, I wonder if we're in the future proofing phase of Fontaine. Like how characters like Yae Miko and Kuki didn't really have a purpose until Sumeru and all the Dendro characters came out. I wonder if we'll get a unique off field DPS character in Natlan at some point. Just a thought.
Hey new 3 star character just dropped
Aloy and Dehya have competition now
NEWEST INNOVATION OF HOYO = 4.5 Star Charatacter.
3.5
she only exist to ruin furina weapon banner 😂😂
3* at best ... Although I'm kinda afraid she deserves 2* for that horrendous kit
2 star
Worse than Aloy
We about to dethrone Dehya with this one!
I don't think she's Dehya bad. As far as healers go, she's still competent. She just kind of falls flat compared to the likes of Baizhu and Kokomi. Unlike Dehya, she would feel right at home on a team with Furina still.
@@BlackoutdmcDehya is just a better support than her. She is limited banner healer when good 4 star healers like yao yao, barbara etc exists. Dehya is atleast good in some fontaine teams on top of being a standard banner, which means u dont need to waste primos for her.
I like dehya more
So sigewinne is now the worst.
Plus I don't have C1 Neuvilette
So dehya is my C1 Neuvilette
@StillQiqiless dehya doesn't really provide anything that actually helps much with the team, other than damage mitigation and resistance to interruption. In my opinion, I wouldn't say she's worse than dehya but probably on par with her
@@Yelan-n8d Thoma.
I think siegwinne might be another case of a character that is released before their niche is actually available. Natlan will probably have more bond of life units with elemental skill dmg.
I doubt it. BoL was on all the Fontaine craftable weapons so it seems like just a fontaine thing imo
@@nori633 seems strange to me that they started only releasing BoL characters in the last 1-2 patches before natlan
Her skill dmg buff is pretty bad so i highly doubt she will be at least viable in the future.
Natlan is out and she's still useless. They all use Nightsouls and Sigewinne's useless 15% buff is still useless.
Her gameplay is so useless.. guess ppl only pull her for adorableness
just like how useless klee is.
@@Bos_Meong Klee at least can deal some major damage with teams like Burgeon. It's just that no one likes her gameplay. Sigewinne outside of the overworld is extremely sub-par and lets face it, most players aren't struggling with the overworld, and the ones that are can simply lower their World Level.
Cunny uuooohhhhh
Yeah....
I still remember the time when people pulled characters for what they are and not for how much damage they deal
She's clearly meant to be Furina's BIS healer, but then it kind of falls appart there. The fact that her skill damage boost is shared across allies is frankly egregious. They could have easily doubled if not tripled the stacks, or better yet have allies have their own stacks. Especially seeing as you're only getting up to 2,800 damage from it. Instead, they hide extra stacks behind her C1. God forbid you hit multiple enemies at once, now your stacks die out even faster!
So if you're planning on pulling Seigwinne for the express purpose of building Furina up as much as possible, you effectively lock her out of several units, such as, Yae, Fischle, Kuki, Xiangling, Albedo, Chiori, Nahida, Raiden, Zhongli, Layla and others. These units will eat away potential stacks.
If you're interested in pulling Seigwinne to buff up Furina, then just pull for Furina's C1, C2, and/or her weapon. Better investment.
Though, she also is incredibly cute, so if you want to pull her for that reason, then more power to you. If you really want a hydro healer, and you're on the fence between Seigwinne and Kokomi, choose the later. Better, wider hydro application, more usage cases, access to TTODS.
can't believe she's seriously competing with Dehya.
Dehya set a new bar for badness, but Sigewinne looks like she can reach that bar.
the thing with Dehya is - you can at least get her cons by loosing 50/50 and I would argue she's less nishe to put in few teams but with Sigewinne you have to whale in order to upgrade her medicoreness so yeah... it's very dissapointing because I was thinking about getting her for Clorinde or future Natlan chars
@@hexnea that is actually the opposite for me. Dehya showing up by losing the 50/50 is not for "free" because primogems were used, it also means she showed up instead of the character I really wanted. Sigewinne only takes second place to being bad, because she is completely optional, not pulling at her banner = no Sigewinne. Dehya takes first place on being bad, because she forced onto my account by 50/50 loss even if I don't want her at all.
@@boiledliddo Dehya have some Fontaine synergies : Mono Pyro Lyney, Overload Chevreuse, Burgeon with Neuvi/Furina, Clorinde can also use her.
Just look at other standard banner chars, they are not high tier but they get boosted and get synergized teams such as Diluc/Xianyun, Jean/Furina, Dehya/Neuvillete (with a Dendro), Qiqi/Clorinde, Tighnari/any Electro. So now Sigewinne is the one that suffer lack of team mates as now.
Amber is worse
Dehya works well with burgeon. She has multiple teams that can utilize her offield skill.
However, sigewine only does teamwide heal. Thats it. Cant be hydro driver, no off field hydro application. Her ult does negligible damage as well.
She makes dehya looks good
🗣NEVER LET HOYOVERSE COOK AGAIN ‼️🔥🔥🔥
hahahahaha
Émilie though
"This company cannot cook"
Dehya flashbacks, at least I wasn't waiting for Sigelose for the whole Fontaine patch like I was with Dehya.
EU servers suffering rn waiting for the update 😭
exactly 😭
Fr 😔
nah, im skipping cause garbage 4 stars for me
Same here
stop im still waiting
If there is hydro abyss mage banner alongside her, I will pull for the abyss mage.
😂😂😂
I wanted her to be like a dedicated Bond of Life support, but here we are huhu
First hydro 3 star
Traveler
@@Thedoorway123 yea thats true lmao
@@Thedoorway123 traveler 2.5 lol
Yeaaa a new 3 star ⭐⭐⭐ Character Sigewinne from Hoyoverse. 🎉👏
shes a 5 star
@@Dirtblokje154
👁️ 👁️
🫦
Ur so cringe
@@Dirtblokje154 5* label 3* kit at best
@@Dirtblokje154Are you 11?
Hoyocreators seem contractually obligated not to call out a bad unit when they see one. "Go crazy if you want to use her in the open world" bro just tell people to save their currency and use any 4 star healer instead
we all understand what creators really mean when they say that, why ruin any chance of partnership being overly negative? why does that make you so angry?
@@A_Lo_Pex But all vids they did say that she is niche and nobody is forcing you to pull her....
I don't see why you want creators to become toxic 🫥
As a viewer, I'd prefer TH-cam content to be as unbiased as possible. Being critical shouldn't be shunned as "overly negative" or "toxic" when it's deserved
@@A_Lo_Pex It’s way safer for creators to be cautious when outright calling anything bad. The genshin fandom is known to be toxic and abusive towards creators, devs, voice actors, etc. No reason to foster more negativity and risk people going after them. Again, we know what they’re really saying, literally zero reason to have to spoon feed you their opinion.
@@A_Lo_Pex Thing is, over world has a lot of appeal to many players. People always bring up the vertical mobility of a bunch of the anemo units, the speed of Yelan and Sayu, and so on. And when I run around in the open world, I do pretty much always have a healer that can heal with E. Kuki is a staple for that reason, and my Furina, despite being C6, is typically just set to healer mode for the open world just to drop the E if I need to top up health. It's a valid selling point to characters, and the opposite of things like "Klee is clunky". Quality of life matters. And it makes sense. A typical player spends a tiny portion of their playtime in floor 12 of the Abyss. And a lot don't even do it at all.
So a content creator saying, "She's not looking to be META, but her being a team-wide E based healer could have value for the open world for you" is properly covering a character.
A guide shouldn't be telling a person how and what to play. What a good one does do is inform the viewer about the pros and cons of the character, so the viewer can make an informed decision as to what they want to do with their recreational time.
Conclusion; Should've genuinely been a 4 star
And her ult would probably be better since the casting animation would likely be shorter.
Nahida has all the cuteness i need 😅, klee is backing me up also
I can understand peoples concerns about clorinde. Saying her design was less detailed then navia.
Saying she was another keqing
But then the whole community absolutely loved her play style and wide team comps from
Physical skyward blade with superconduct with qiqi
Overloaded with tohma (c6) normal attack boost now useful, and chevruze
Aggravate dendro like reverse alhitham with nahida and fischl
And electrocharged with yelan or kokomi
But no hate against sigiwine, it’s not comparable to furina or yelan with hydro application, or healing like kokomi. You can even build a yelan healer if you wanted to heal your team and still have the hydro damage as sigiwine.
There are better unites and unfortunately this character was listed as a 5 star.
pulling sigewinne for neuvillette and im happy!
She’s really cute, I love her design, she looks like a Magical Girl
Sales is going to flop again.
Cai Haoyu should fire his battle kit designer from genshin team.
He should fire himself
I hope it really flop so we can keep running joke of wuwa killing genshin 😂
real man, Chiori was so disappointing despite her potential. Their character design team is cool, their kit design team is the one holding the characters back
and fire himself alnogside them
It's literally SO funny to me how hoyo never releases characters that would "sell poorly" like buff males and yet they do sht like this 😭
She’s literally perfect for what I needed, I’ve been needing a a healer like her ever since baizhu came out. Kokomis nice and all but her healing is too annoying to deal with for my team comps. Her skill requires staying still, and her burst heal is energy reliant and needs field time.
I loved baizhu when he came o it cause he had none of these issues, his skill can heal from anywhere and his burst shields AND heals with no field time needed.
Sigwienne can heal from her skill alone from off field without hindering my movements without being burst reliant and that’s all I needed from a healer. Barbara has too long a skill cooldown and but burst is energy hungry, jeans burst is also energy hungry, Charlotte is also energy hungry, and yaoyao requires field time.
Sigwienne and baizhu are def my top picks for healers
Even if she somehow becomes meta with future updates it won't matter as the meta we meant was for the abyss and with it gone theres no need for a real meta anymore
What do you mean the abyss is gone? It will stay and reset every 30 days.
@shadowpriest2574 oh I thought it'll be removed didn't know they changed it to once a month
Most likely after her release we will get a 4* HP scaled bow, plus we have 2 more nations to go through so we DEF will. She honestly isnt THAT bad I mean when I heard niche I thought of Nilou. And im in desperate NEED of a healer Im using barbara who is honestly a VERY good healer at c6. But im very surprised after going through 5 nations we have yet to get a hp bow thats 4*
I'm still getting her for character collection 🤩
Me: She suck, not worth it
Neuvilette: What did you just say?💀💀
Her standby animation makes me think of if Injection Fairy Lily (A Yugioh card) had a little sister.
She is okay-ish in her niche buffing E dmg and a healer.
Yeah she doesn't really have good teams now. But just like other healers that were first released and get doom-posted (Kokomi, Baizhu, Kuki, Xianyun,...)
I would say just look forward to how the Natlan units team comps working i mean she potentially could give ally some BoL
💯
Agree agree especially she comes out in patches nearing natlan and in fontaine the only BoL chara we got is arle and clorinde, or.. she could be a dehya situation i really hope not tho
@@sunglassfrog89 Well Dehya is actually a lot better now than her release 😂 She is not top tier or anything but a decent choice really. The main thing people always ignore is they are Defensive supports giving resistance to interruption/ healing whole team,... People generally just want to see big numbers/ buffing Giga dmg when these units were not designed for that...
Mono pyro team with Lyney, burn melt team, or potentially burning team with Emilie the next patch
Future impact sucks. You are pulling for a character and yet not sure if she will be good, not now but in the future? On top of gambling on getting the said character in the first place.
@@vanxxx3043 Well nobody is forcing you to pull for her.... 🫥
I just say a valid opinion that's all
IMO The problem now with Genshin is that there are many characters who do the same thing as older characters only the numbers are getting bigger...and the problem with 5 star healers is that 4 star healers just work fine...i usually don't need Benette or yaoyao for healer slot
does anyone remember that she was a bit of a sociopath during the quest?
Ah now I see why Mihoyo paired Furina with her. They knew she’s not marketable so this is probably the reason why they delayed Furina’s rerun. Furina was really supposed to be at ver 4.6 probably at phase2 but they somehow think that having Baizhu or Wonderer run with Sigewinne won’t make them enough profit and with this banner combination it’s gonna be the weakest banner sale among all. It’s kinda the same as Xianyun’s banner, her patch got carried by Nahida’s rerun. I’m assuming that Furina will 2nd rerun accordingly to how they rerun the previous archons like in every version .6, so like Zhongli-Venti-Pyro Archon Debut-Raiden-Nahida- then Furina.
Kokomi is better than Sigewinne
I mean... It's kokomi... She literally god of healer...if you want new healer then get sigewinne..
Yes
Barbara is better than Sigewinne
Nah thats qiqi@@sweetproject6337
Healing bonus artifact better than sigwinne
I'm surprised that Furina, Kazuha, Neuvi team isn't mentioned here, that seems to be her best comp. There's one thing that wasn't mentioned in this video, Neuvilette can consume droplets created by Sigewinne, giving him an extra CA without using skill or burst
I already accepted that Hoyo likes making a character now and turns to be really good in future patches. This happened before just like kokomi and baizhu(people saying they are trash or 3 stars when first release), and look how good they are now, even meta when looking at data. Im not really against this, if Hoyo really makes a character useful in later patches, then its fine with me
I mean all they have to do is add a Hydro character that relies heavily on skill based damage and that requires a good amount of healing to function....oh wait. ;) More seriously though, besides Furina, I feel like Sigewinne will be interesting to pair with some low skill-damage characters for some niche builds. Like I can totally imagine someone running a Cinnabar Spindle QiQi with Sigewinne, Furina, and maybe on-field Zhongli buffing her for some silly numbers with QiQi's skill. It is just a shame though that you almost need C1 or C2 for her to even be remotely viable in any "serious" manner.
1. TC community never said Kokomi and Baizhu were bad. Only the casuals that know nothing about the game did.
2. Kokomi got a very last minute change to her jellyfish hydro app ICD and that was the whole reason she became meta. So many people didnt know about that untill 1-2 weeks into her release. Nowdays, not even Kokomi is meta.
3. Baizhu had way less value back when he releaed due to the role he was supposed cover was already covered by Yaoyao and after, Kirara. He only gained value with Furina and still to this day is pretty reliant on Furina to be in the meta.
I really liked her character in the story and how her presentation towards the world was a deliberate choice. Skipped couple of previous banners for. But now…
As a casual f2p who played for years and has a large base of already developed characters, I can’t justify pulling for her 😢
Good thing for me now I can save for future banners without any regret of skipping this one
Her burst should have been 5 seconds long, maybe even slightly longer than that. Because then you can potentially make her a burst build character.
Tfw I'm a hardcore Navia Main and I only feel a slight temptation for her, because I see that Navia-Furina-Chiori-Sigewinne Team I could recreate xD But nah, I don't think I'm gonna replace my Xianyun for Sigewinne in that team
Yeah its not worth it
Lol xianyun is more worth it and plunging attack navia is fun than this primo bait trash
Lmao navia in xianyun tean sounds fun, I use her with itto and that team hits hard asf.
@@Anika9691 Navia with Xianyun hits like a truck, especially since Navia's skill does Geo infusion. I haven't run the numbers, but I've heard some people say it's even her strongest, or at least like top 3 strongest teams
i wanted her to be good so badly because her character design is ADORABLE now i’m mourning 😔😔
man the update just came out 💀🙏🏻
They definitely try these early....so nothing shocking here!!!!!!!
He is a hoyoverse sponsored CC so he has access to servers to test early that's why he doesn't admit how bad of a pull she is
@@thebrigade7684 and if they admitted....they would get banned just like Mtashed😞
Sigewinne could work on a Neuvillete team, although you'd lose Neuvillete's passive, it could give him more field time. This could only work on few floors of abyss, like when there's pyro or electro slimes. The enemies with self applied element, It's definetely a damage loss for Neuvillete.
Her kit screams 4 star, no clue why they thought she was 5 star worthy in this state
I can’t believe I haven’t seen a Clorinde Furina Sigewinn team yet has healing increases Clorinde’s bond of life doing more damage
people were bashing baizhu when he came out but with furinas release hes good now. i suppose sigewinne will only ger better with natlans release. besides people would still be pressed if she was a 4* because they wouldnt find a use for her anyway. the yapping never stops
The good old days… where the meta didn’t exist.
That…isn’t really a good thing tho?
@@kyuzairen5383 I don’t really think so…
Meta can certainly be good at some point. But for instance, there are players who want to play with their favourite characters. When they realised that their main didn’t really do a great job, like bad kits or other players’ opinions, some will just follow what other people say and stop playing what they enjoyed to.
So like sigewinne situation for now, I saw like 90% of people saying that she is bad. And I am sure there are already people, who started off wanting to main her, but ended up being told that she ain’t worth it. And I mean that’s the point where meta is really kicking things off, where people tend to play with meta rather than enjoying their main.
And like in the past, players could just play whoever they want without knowing who is good or bad. But I know that meta is inevitable, like characters will powercrept patch after patch. Some players are just going for the highest dps and the most efficient way to play this game without enjoyment, and they have their own way to go and I respect that. But like in the end, does it even matter when you don’t even enjoy what you play? So just play what you want and move on.
So real
Sharing that source water droplet mechanic between characters seems interesting, but redundant with only Neuvillete and Hydro Traveler out right now
Does she stack with Mona, as Stellaris Phantasm should be an off-field perk, no?
Mona's not perfect, but she's decent at Hydro application, so that may create a cooperative effect.
Curious about something like Nilou-Nahida-Mona-Siegewinne Bloom team
What is sigetrash even gonna contribute to this team other than just heal that other more useful 4 star can do, such a waste of primo
Well, for this bloom team, why use Seigwinne when you could use Kokomi? No onr is realistically taking advantage of the one thing Seigwinne provides here, wich is her E damage boost. 95% of this team's damage makeup will be blooms.
@@Blackoutdmc and whose skill damage will she even help boost mona? Literally neglible, nahida? Dude she needs aggravate otherwise every characters damage in a nilou bloom team is negligible as her special bloom mostly do the damage and other is for sustaining and heal, Stop the cope and I would rather save primo than wasting on dreaming if she can give any utility which is non existent
@Blackoutdmc yeah, I haven't looked into Siegewinne much, but wasn't sure if she boosted Bloom damage as well, which one top of Mona buff and Nilou buff, could result in a significant hit in theory.
Honestly for passive-attack Skills, it seems like Chiori would be the better bet - I just keep hoping someone will do for Mona what Xianyun did for Diluc/Xiao
I'd thought Siegewinne boosted any off-field effect, not Skills specifically; therefore Mona's effect would be boosted as well.
Sadly she's really limited by the rare number of single-hit damage skills/bursts, and being out-scaled on a basic stat level.
Pity, as Mona is one of my favorites by playstyle.
Keep in mind that Sigewinne's C2 hydro res shred will hit diminishing returns if you play with VV set on the team
I think Hoyo made a mistake by making her 5*
About Babs mainly for F2P players (but everyone can probably use this info, I use her all the time and I'm not F2P):
People keep saying Babs is bad but shes really not, lol. There are definitely teams in which I prefer using babs over kokomi.
You have to hug the opponent to apply hydro? Not if you use her normal attacks, which heal your entire team if her E is up. I was mind-blown when a friend who likes barbara a lot didnt even know that. And a melee character often benefits from it too as they get close enough. Her E also helps with stamina management. Important if you dodge a lot.
Unlike kokomi she also has a resurrection (at C6; ive played since the start so I've had that for a long time) and her normals travel instantly. kokomi's fish take travel time.
Currently I have built her with about 1050 EM pre-buffs in a niloubloom team with kirara. She can apply all the hydro needed easily, deals huge bloom damage, heals the entire team while she's at it and in the unlikely event someone dies they resurrect. She's actually amazing.
I find kokomi only better when I need more off-field hydro alplication, but her jellyfish still wont help an archer or apply much to a moving target. Kokomis heals are better, but if I build babs for healing then her burst actually heals more in less time than Kokomi does for me. Kokomi C2, Babs C6.
I get that you were talking about healing capacity and babs can get you frozen more easily, but people really need to stop sleeping on babs, which is why I wrote this up ^^ she's actually a great F2P unit. Even at C0. IIRC her healing doesnt increase much through constellations, only the C3 and C5 do that a bit. The rest is energy regen and the res at C6.
My buddy is a new player and he keeps saying he needs a better healer, but I took his account for a spin in the abyss and barely even built babs of c0 lvl 70 with not even capped talents for that level range and an artifact setup without proper set bonus and substats (he did give her 3 lvl 20 hp% main stats) provides enough healing to breeze through floor 11 (one team had bennett and xingqiu, the other had just babs and was fine).
Amazing vid 10/10
If only sigewinne was a 10/10
Cute. She is a "break" for recent power creeping.
The biggest reason to pull and use her could have been her skill dmg buff, but hoyo really don't want us having fun, so these pitiful 10 stacks, that are shared for whole team is stupid....
i wish it wasn't limited like do you know how broken it would be if fischl abused it.
@@usmanya5110 well so what? She has to provide something special on top of healing to earn place in the team. There are too many other great units to place instead of her.
@@RavenShugo that's what's saddening cause if it isn't limited. Taser could probably be meta again and she found a way she could excel in.😭😭
.actually know that i just thought about it i kinda wished she was an electro charged chevreusse
@@RavenShugo agreed, that's what's saddening cause if it isn't limited. Taser could probably be good again and she would found a way where she could excel in.😭😭
.actually know that i just thought about it i kinda wished she was an electro charged chevreusse
@@usmanya5110 yeap, it's sad, that hoyo constantly adding too much restrictions, so we cannot play units in any other way, but how they want it...
Genshin already showed it's not some skill based hardcore game, but a waifu/husbando collector, so I see no point to limit 5stars so hard...
One team that i thought would be fun would be heizou faruzan/fischl siegwiene furina. Faruzan if u wanna go heizou hypercarry. Fischl if u wanna do tazer
Got her! 🔥
But I'm definitely benching her for now 😅
I’m wondering if maybe she would be good on a clorinde team. Clorinde prefers quick bloom where blooms are nice but not mandatory so slow hydro application isn’t an issue. Clorindes bond of life would buff siegewinnes healing which in turn would give clorinde even more bond of life and her passive would boost fischls damage. Honestly feels like they were matched pretty well for each other
Lets see how well this ages
You know hoyo doesn’t care when they make a healer character with an ultimate that lasts as long as the ult animation and does nothing other than damage…
she is cute as heck, that’s all I want
It seems to me like she was designed to be a quickswap DPS in a double-DPS team, she just doesn't synergise with anyone... yet. I can def see it though, her healing is good enough to build her with crit. She consolidates DPS and healer roles. You play her with another quickswap DPS like her plus two other off-field DPSs. Only thing that doesn't fit is her (lack of) hydro app, but you can play her with Furina ig. Perhaps we're looking at a future character that can buff her dmg in turn. Double DPS comp.
What do you mean she doesn't synergize with anyone?
It's even specifically stated that she synergizes with Furina right in the video you're commenting on (yes it's really just one character so far, but that is more than no one).
Sigewinne can be paired with Furina in almost any party that can use a Duo Hydro that uses Furina. Furina herself already has just above average hydro application. So with Sigewinne's bit of extra hydro application, there is generally more than enough Hydro aura's applied. Sigewinne ensures easy quick fanfare stacks with her quite amazing team healing while also buffing Furina's summons by an average of +50% DPS before reactions (and Furina's DPS is quite good).
@@blackkat101 You misunderstand, I know she synergises with Furina, I was talking about synergy with a similar quickswap DPS or something like that. Not sure how good she is with Navia, I don't have either of them.
Idc she just look cute.
pedo
@@gaming_zealot5428 hear me out
calling a kid cute =/= pedo
I find a toddler cute cause they do alot of destruction in my house
@@gaming_zealot5428 I dont know what the OP meant by "she looks cute" as in an affectionate way or...that way...iykyk.. But calling someone cute doesn't automatically make you a "pedo". its like calling your newborn baby brother cute but you get called a "pedo" in public.
BUUUUT. If the OP meant it in THAT way,we ain't defending him on this one.
@@Zohrah1022 meant it in the Puppy kind of way.
Definitely pulling for her if I have enough primo.
You can use Sigewinne and Furina together, and then add a subdps and a main dps on top.
Or use Yelan and Furina, with Jean and a main dps (e.g. Raiden) for an objectively better team. Jean even provides 40% RES shred, more than C2 Sigewinne, and can deal much higher damage for just 1 second fieldtime.
Easy skip. Arle was the last character worth pulling in Genshin and by the looks of it it’s staying that way for a long time
Nah they gotta go all out for Natlan I can smell it
I thought Chlorinde was quite good too?
@@Meh-yb9swclorinde is Ok, way below fontaine avg characters. Wriothesley exists, so she's the second worse
@@marcusvinicius917 I can't say if Chlorinde is as much bad as you're saying (tho I can't say whether she's super-duper great from personal experience either since I don't have her). Most other Fontaine characters just became the best character for their elements or made an element work with others like Neuvillette and Arlecchino are now just the best hydro and pyro main dps and Furina is the best hydro buffer and sub-dps whereas Navia made Geo work with other elements making Geo wayyyy more useful than it was. That doesn't mean Chlorinde became that bad or "second worse" or smth. She just didn't become the best of her element and Raiden still is a great electro character cuz you can use Raiden as both sub-dps and main dps whereas Chlorinde is just for main dps. From what I've seen that doesn't rlly seem to be a problem and she's considered a rlly great character too from her release. I don't rlly see what you mean by her being second worse or smth (and idk abt Wriothesley cuz I never rlly searched abt how he works so idk abt him). Most Fontaine characters are just too broken lol but Chlorinde is considered one of the best electro main dps characters by many and so she WAS worth-pulling for unlike what the OP was saying abt Arlecchino being the last one worth pulling.
@@Meh-yb9sw if all the characters are better, wriothesley is the worst, and she is next to him, she's the second worse. The mere fact that you can't say she is on the same category of other Fontaine proves that. Even wriothesley might be good when Natlan drops, then she will be the worst Fontaine character. She is as strong as a 2.x character. The fact you said that she is worth pulling is crazy, ngl. Pulling for a 5 limited unit that does just a little better than Keqing and does worse than keqing with high constellation is crazy, pulling a electro unit that is average at best, when Furina and Alhaitham are better options, or saving for Natlan is also crazy. The only world where Clorinde is worth, it's when you have Nahida c2.
Now to figure out where to find a Recurve Bow after accidentally feeding it into another weapon...
Diet cola neuvillete
real
Little late to the party, trying to grab some more info on the game, thanks for the upload, I'll give it a try it's a GTA "Ah Shh.. here we go again".
Sigewinne is so weak, tried her out in the trial now even with her signature weapon and she is so no no for me
this is solely my own opinion as a player who already has enough healers such as kokomi.
Ya I feel like this game doesn’t respect their players since it takes so long to save for a 5 star yet they release such an underwhelming character.
I think Sigewinne was made for future comps in mind. Her burst is kinda useless for any utility but I can see purpose in her elemental skill with the healing and the pretty minute Covalence buff. I know her hydro applicatioj very much sucks, but if we are to look ahead and see that Emilie is a burning focused character, then a burning meta would insist that your hydro supports shouldnt steal vapes from a forward vape dps, be it on field or off field (like Furina).
Its like how Thoma is an issue with stealinf some vapes in a Hu Tao team with Thoma shielder.
So lets say that Murata aka Pyro archon has Xiangling burst as a skill, and Bennett's burst for her burst but no circle impact. Everything else is left the same, meaning the way they function- snapshotting, no ICD, atk buffing based on base atk, yada yada. Thus, Sigewinne would actually be a good support vs Kokomi because one, few forward vapes are stolen; 2. Covalence stacks buffing an on-skill Pyronado or Furina's Chadalletta.
So a team of Sigewinne, Furina, Emilie, and Pyro Archon would suffice as a burnvape team.
The truth is, we only ever see one side of the coin that is vaporize until recently. How the reaction is coded weighs heavily on heads as it i more consistent. It takes the burnign reaction to enable Neuv to vape. It takes Klee's amount of pyro app to get Furina to vape.
So you either need pyro Xingqiu for forward vape or pretty infrequent hydro to get forward vape. Sigewinne applies pretty little hydro app but thats fine considering you want the hydro off/on field dps to apply hydro on burning enemies instead.
I really hope they somehow pull a kuki shinobu on her and suddenly make her usable 😭😭😭
Hoyo really need to pull it together. They’re obviously are just throwing characters for the sales and not thinking about the overall experience of players pulling for these new characters.
I am seeing so many people say Sigewinne is basically a 4 star, if not lower. I feel like we go through this every 8-10 months when a niche unit is released. This exact same thing happened with Kokomi. Everyone said she was trash/pointless, but as more and more characters came out and her kit worked with them, shes now one of the best characters in the game. The same thing is likely to happen to sigewinne her value will improve over time. You dont have to wish for her if you dont want to yall. But in a year's time, you may be surprised you might be wishing for her when her value improves, if not skyrockets.
lol, Kokomi has a lot more in her kit than Sigewinne. Most actual theory crafters thought she had a decent kit just not very useful and doomposters saying no crit = bad. What sigewinne has is only healing, and a bubble to stun things. Kokomi was helped by dendro, and what does Sigewinne have? I don't see any specific targeted synergy that works with and only with Sigewinne that would not also buff Kokomi. Dehya after like 10 patches with a signiture set still is sub-par, and i could see natlan helping her a bit whereas sigewinne has basically no specialility. You can pull for her if you want, but don't act like it is an investment. She is not going to be good, and your whole comment is just coping
Kokomi can *absolutely* be a furina team wide healer while off-field.
All you need to do is give her Prototype Amber and use her burst.
I've cleared this abyss with Koko-Furina, Prot. Amber's healing gets boosted both by Koko's healing bonus as well as Furina's burst so it has no trouble keeping the team at full health at R5.
I also don't like using TTDS on Kokomi since it forces you to use her last just before swapping to your main DPS 🤷♂
man i want to pull her and complete 8 smol characters on my profile... just like Thanos collecting his infinity stone on gauntlet...
"Don't Pull Me!"
The character.
Siggewine challenge, fight any boss using only her bow aim attack
Fast as ever
"The teammate must be off field"
Fischl, wake up. You got another buff.
REMEMBER GUYS...
People doompost Baizhu too back in the day when he came out...
Ill say we need to wait till natlan came out to see how Hoyo handle her gameplay...
I know Future Impact is sometimes sucks, but hey... at least this is not like Dehya situation...
This is said whenever a new character is released lol.
It would make sense if the problem with Sigewinne was that she does something new and different that's not useful in any team. Then they could release characters that COULD utilize her unique mechanics.
But that's not the thing. The thing is she does almost nothing, and what she does do is meh. She heals a lot, which is cool, but she provides nothing more than that. Her Skill DMG buff is negligible, her Hydro application is terrible, and her Burst DMG is bad and not worth spending time on.
There is literally nothing Hoyo could do to make her better other than straight up change her kit.
@@m_milos I mean... Thats true...
But again... People seems forget that Baizhu also got these kind of "Mehh" Response from the Community...
Like how his Shield is bad (even got compared by some 4-star Shielder), his Dendro App are not that good, didnt fix Cyno problem, and he always got compared by Yaoyao and Kokomi (litterally like Sigewine)
But now... He is basically the Best Healer for Neuvi+Furi+Kazu team...
Baizhu was doomposted just because he was and still is a Yaoyao sidegrade
@Wiradika1414 Well, if a character needs a future character to have their worth be seen (Baizhu with Furina), then they're not good to begin with.
At this point, if you have the likes of Kokomi, Baizhu, Jean, or even a well built Yaoyao or Barbara, there is no reason to pull for her, well except if you really like her character and that's all tbh😢
I don't think the situation will be the same here. Problem is, Sigewinme is a hydro healer, and we already have 2 of them. And one of them is already great to begin with.
I mean, sure, maybe in the future, we will get a character who uses BoL, but even then, Sigewinne's Bol is very small, so I don't think it will help (+ is quite late already)
Sure, Sigewinne is not another Dehya, but I doubt she will receive the same redemption as Baizhu and Kokomi.