******* Apologise about the hand waving ******** I am very sorry that there was a lot of handwaving in this video. I have received several comments regarding this and I have taken it on board. Unfortunately I had already filmed, edited and uploaded Episode 2 before I got this advise so there's a lot of handwaving in that one too. I have just finished filming Episode 3 and 4, and there is much less handwaving there. Thank you for your patience and thank you very much for the advice.
Excellent comparison. Thank you for explaining why you updated your basic 12-color choices. I plan on using this to build my own collection. No need to apologize for the handwaving. It felt nice and sunny, like the colors you were comparing.
The hand waving is fine. I can still see the colors and the gesturing kept me engaged to what you were saying, rather than veering off into a daydream -- which I often do when staring at whimsical pretty colors.
It's amazing how Hansa Yellow Deep mixes more vibrant reds and oranges yet New Gamboge mixes more vibrant greens! Yet they're so bloody similar! Thank you for always doing such thorough videos on these. 💜
Art of Ley Saulnier and Dr. Oto Kano... Looking at the undertones can help. NG has a slightly yellower undertone than PY 65 and what you see in the wash helps you understand the mixes you can get a little better. But pigments can differ from pigment supplier to pigment supplier and from batch to batch. A redder undertone leads to more muted greens. A very similar yellow to DS New Gamboge is the middle opacity version of PY 83.
I'm so glad you've rebooted this series, Oto!! I'm in the market for a warm yellow, so it's perfect timing. I like that the New Gamboge has a wider range from a slightly deeper yellow orange to a pale yellow. What I find interesting is that the two pigment color mixes as well as the one pigment color, which supports Daniel Smith's assertion that the way they mix their non-separating multi-pigment colors allows them to mix as evenly as single pigments. I really thought I'd like the Hansa Yellow Deep more, but the New Gamboge has more depth, so I'm going to try it in the stick format. Thanks for the intel!
I'm so glad you are enjoying the new season! Yes, there's no separation between the two pigments in New gamboge in whatever you do to it. (with the exception of the gauzing, but I really like that it separates for this method). Happy painting!
I’m starting my pallet as I have not used watercolor for many years. Thank you so much for your in depth assessment of these colors. I will get the Hansa Yellow Deep for landscape painting.
I thought I”d go new gamboge but…I love the hansa yellow deep! I have some I got on sale some time ago but never even twisted the cap. I”ve now been playing with it and it”s wonderful! Thank you!
I love LOVE the showdown series. You save me time and sometimes money. Sometimes, like this time, I make up my mind which color gets a half pan or a full pan in my travel palette. I hope you continue this series. Thank you, thank you. Ps, would love to see your take on comparing brands using this format.
Very interesting. I’ve always had New Gamboge on my palette, but since I primarily paint landscape I will order the Hansa Yellow to try. I love New Gamboge with Quin Violet.
Hansa yellow is my favorite color. I've been using new gamboge in student paints. It's hard to fund hansa yellow in a student range. Thanks for the video
New gamboge is my favorite, but then again I havent tried the hansa yellow deep haha. I use new gamboge straight as it is a lot, but it also mixes amazingly with quin pink for skin tones and corals!
A really informative video! I use new gambodge cause I simply adore the bright colors it mixes! Hansa yellow deep is pretty darn similar exept the greens!
I went with the hansa yellows as the 110 did not rate well in my Wilcox book. My copy was published in 1991, before Daniel Smith opened business. Things may have changed since then. I wish there was a current issue of the book, but we have the internet now. The author cautioned then about the differences between watercolors pigment and printers ink. Considering the variables in screens I would still prefer print.
I’m about to start purchasing some professional watercolors and your videos are extremely helpful. They answer some of the exact questions I have. I was debating between these two and will likely go with the hansa yellow deep.
WHOOOOOOOO! Season twoooooo! I have both these colors (I think) and don’t really prefer one over the other and never really thought about them at all. =>.
yeah me too, not thought of the difference between these two until I got several requests for them. They are so similar though, so perfect for this series!
Im so happy to find this channel! Your comparison videos clear so many questions I had from just reading pigment descriptions in databases. Especially Yellows! It's so hard to see differences in those without mixing. You are my favorite youtuber for now. (I don't know if you care, but authomatically generated subtitles sometimes get obscene for no reason, for example, with Bockingford paper. Like, yeah, it's no Arches, but rude still :)
Really happy to find this demo!!! I was on my way to "refilling" my New Gamboge (Winsor Newton) when I discovered that the PY 153 was not available. (Obviously I had a nice supply to have lasted all this time! This sent me on a search for the best replacement . . . and I was down to these 2 paints! So for me, I think the Hansa Yellow Deep more closely fits what I'm looking for! Thank you!!!
I know this is an older video, but I had to comment; we write our Ys the same! I see it so rarely, especially uppercase, I'm surprised you don't write your 4s extra triangular to compensate like I do!
Wow, picking up a 2yo comment lol I too write my "y" like that and I do my 4s with extra triangular shape. Perhaps we were taught that, back when they taught penmanship?? 🤣
Hi Oto, my New Gamboge is a single pigment; I don't have Hansa Yellow Deep. I do use New Gamboge for sunsets, sunflowers, fire, and any other place where I want a warm yellow, either on its own or mixed.
Oto, my brand of New Gamboge is Daniel Smith. A friend had purchased a tube for me. Not knowing that he had done so, I had purchased a tube for myself. I still had less than 1/4 of paint left in the tube that I wanted to replace. So, it's lasting quite a while.
Woohoo! I am so excited to see season 2! I happen to have both of these in my palate, and I prefer the hansa yellow deep. It's really personal preference. Seeing the start of season 2 made my day! Thanks so much Oto!
Between py65 and new gamboge hue mix for a warm yellow I chose py110 isoindolinone yellow :) looking at the mixtures, maybe I made mistake though... :)
Oto Kano that's what I'm thinking about currently, but it's true I composed my palette around the py110 cause its super transparent, although closer to po62 benzi orange than yellow. New gamboge hue can be mixed with py151 or even py3 both are in my palette, but at first glance I realized that both of your selections mix pretty different than py110 on its own, when I got impression the difference isn't "that" huge from other resources :) I'm single pigment lightfast nerd T_T py3 and pr122 are only "good" colors I compromised on cause I didn't find any good options :D (py175 is difficult to handle and for some reason I don't really like it's hue... Looks a bit "dirty" to me) So now... I'm staying where I am, mostly cause no money... But it's nice to re-evaluate decisions once in a while :)
at time 1:42, I had to laugh! I'm glad you were waving the card around, I was feeling that excited too! I binge watched season 1... Your handmade Ultramarine Blue is beautiful, and I always love it with New Gamboge
XD I'm glad this second season was possible! I don't have any of those and when it comes to yellow I feel I don't have a strong opinion. Yet I finally bought the DS dot card and as I'm waiting for it I might prepare a chart with both transparency test and glazing since those are two major factors in my art. From the two, I like the best new gamboge with that unnatural glowy yellow tint in the watered down wash! Thank you for the informative video as always.
I think they are really interchangeable. Hansa Yellow Deep is also good for mixing brown and skin tones. I like to mix it with the Phthalo Blues, too. But I don't use it that often on my palette. I have both of them and both are so similar in mixes. There is not much of a difference for me personally.
Ian Jackson HY deep is yellow orange, HY light is a brilliant, greenish lemon with similar opacities. However, there are various hansa yellows available with differing properties and permanence ratings. It would be good for us to know what paints you are talking about. Each company often changes the pigments in their colors. That happens for a number of reasons, some good, some bad.
Lovely video! You might want to watch this with CC on for English. One of the words might not be to your liking. :( As for the colors, I love them both and you have done a superb job of comparing them and informing us of the similarities and differences.
New Gamboge is part of their "Essentials" 6-color pack from Daniel Smith, that contains the warm and cool primaries. This test shows that they should have gone for the Hansa Yellow Deep instead of the New Gamboge as part of their warm primaries trio.
******* Apologise about the hand waving ********
I am very sorry that there was a lot of handwaving in this video. I have received several comments regarding this and I have taken it on board. Unfortunately I had already filmed, edited and uploaded Episode 2 before I got this advise so there's a lot of handwaving in that one too. I have just finished filming Episode 3 and 4, and there is much less handwaving there. Thank you for your patience and thank you very much for the advice.
I like the handwaving, it shows your expressions.
Excellent comparison. Thank you for explaining why you updated your basic 12-color choices. I plan on using this to build my own collection. No need to apologize for the handwaving. It felt nice and sunny, like the colors you were comparing.
Who is that colorist master you mentioned?
@@sailorfan86 Stephen Quiller :)
The hand waving is fine. I can still see the colors and the gesturing kept me engaged to what you were saying, rather than veering off into a daydream -- which I often do when staring at whimsical pretty colors.
Dr Oto, these studies you have done are an encyclopedic reference tool. Amazing work! Thank you for your service to watercolorists everywhere!
Hansa yellow deep is my favorite of the two, it looks amazing in the mixes. Also, both are happy, sunny colors. I feel better just looking at them XD
I know, we should bottle it and label it as an antidote for seasonally affective disorder!
I was painting with it last night and dreamed better dreams
It's amazing how Hansa Yellow Deep mixes more vibrant reds and oranges yet New Gamboge mixes more vibrant greens! Yet they're so bloody similar! Thank you for always doing such thorough videos on these. 💜
I know! I was surprised by that too. I guess there's a lot of variation in yellow that is hard for us to see because of their hue.
Art of Ley Saulnier and Dr. Oto Kano... Looking at the undertones can help. NG has a slightly yellower undertone than PY 65 and what you see in the wash helps you understand the mixes you can get a little better. But pigments can differ from pigment supplier to pigment supplier and from batch to batch. A redder undertone leads to more muted greens. A very similar yellow to DS New Gamboge is the middle opacity version of PY 83.
New Gamboge is one of my fave yellows! So warm, so full! I can't stop myself from smiling when I use it. :)
Me too! It's such a happy color!
I am choosing the Hansa Yellow Deep because I want it for landscapes. Thank you so much for sharing the tests!
I'm so glad you've rebooted this series, Oto!! I'm in the market for a warm yellow, so it's perfect timing. I like that the New Gamboge has a wider range from a slightly deeper yellow orange to a pale yellow. What I find interesting is that the two pigment color mixes as well as the one pigment color, which supports Daniel Smith's assertion that the way they mix their non-separating multi-pigment colors allows them to mix as evenly as single pigments. I really thought I'd like the Hansa Yellow Deep more, but the New Gamboge has more depth, so I'm going to try it in the stick format. Thanks for the intel!
I'm so glad you are enjoying the new season! Yes, there's no separation between the two pigments in New gamboge in whatever you do to it. (with the exception of the gauzing, but I really like that it separates for this method). Happy painting!
I’m starting my pallet as I have not used watercolor for many years. Thank you so much for your in depth assessment of these colors. I will get the Hansa Yellow Deep for landscape painting.
Well that was a surprise. I'm a "new gamboge" fan for a long time but Hansa Yellow Deep looks over all, more useful and versatile. Very good analysis.
I am so glad to see this series continue. So much to learn, and a great chance to see more colors than I could ever afford to see on my own.
So glad you are enjoying the series. Watercolors can be so expensive, it's great that these videos are saving people money :D
Thanks for this in depth look, and glad to see the series back! Hansa Yellow Deep is my pick :)
Yes! It feels great to have the series back. Thank you so much for watching!
I love Hansa Yellow Deep as a color but somehow I rarely reach for it when mixing colors and reach for more transparent yellows instead
I thought I”d go new gamboge but…I love the hansa yellow deep! I have some I got on sale some time ago but never even twisted the cap. I”ve now been playing with it and it”s wonderful! Thank you!
I love LOVE the showdown series. You save me time and sometimes money. Sometimes, like this time, I make up my mind which color gets a half pan or a full pan in my travel palette. I hope you continue this series. Thank you, thank you. Ps, would love to see your take on comparing brands using this format.
Just what I needed! Thank you 🙏
I’m going to try the Hansa Yellow Deep.
Very interesting. I’ve always had New Gamboge on my palette, but since I primarily paint landscape I will order the Hansa Yellow to try. I love New Gamboge with Quin Violet.
What color does that make Cheryl? Just curious, since I have neither.
Jackie Byers full strength it can make a deep gorgeous burgundy. Watered down it is the color of white sand on the beach.
Hansa yellow is my favorite color. I've been using new gamboge in student paints. It's hard to fund hansa yellow in a student range. Thanks for the video
New gamboge is my favorite, but then again I havent tried the hansa yellow deep haha. I use new gamboge straight as it is a lot, but it also mixes amazingly with quin pink for skin tones and corals!
Yes! I really love the new gamboge plus quin rose combo too. So many pretty shades ❤️
Same here. I love New Gamboge so much but have not tried Hansa Yellow Deep.
They are so close that I can't believe I have a preference! But I do and I can't wait to treat myself because I think the new gamboge is gorgeous!
A really informative video! I use new gambodge cause I simply adore the bright colors it mixes! Hansa yellow deep is pretty darn similar exept the greens!
I just found your videos and love them. I love color and really love understanding how they work together.
Exactly the info I was looking for this morning!
I went with the hansa yellows as the 110 did not rate well in my Wilcox book. My copy was published in 1991, before Daniel Smith opened business. Things may have changed since then. I wish there was a current issue of the book, but we have the internet now. The author cautioned then about the differences between watercolors pigment and printers ink. Considering the variables in screens I would still prefer print.
I’m about to start purchasing some professional watercolors and your videos are extremely helpful. They answer some of the exact questions I have. I was debating between these two and will likely go with the hansa yellow deep.
WHOOOOOOOO! Season twoooooo! I have both these colors (I think) and don’t really prefer one over the other and never really thought about them at all. =>.
yeah me too, not thought of the difference between these two until I got several requests for them. They are so similar though, so perfect for this series!
Im so happy to find this channel! Your comparison videos clear so many questions I had from just reading pigment descriptions in databases. Especially Yellows! It's so hard to see differences in those without mixing. You are my favorite youtuber for now.
(I don't know if you care, but authomatically generated subtitles sometimes get obscene for no reason, for example, with Bockingford paper. Like, yeah, it's no Arches, but rude still :)
This was very informative. Thank you so much. I like both colors and I would use both of them depending on what my end goal is. I love both colors.
So glad this was useful :D Thank you for watching it.
I'm trying to decide between Hansa Yellow Deep and Permanent Yellow Deep. 🙈
I have New Gamboge, I like to mix it with Quin Rose for flowers. Not to a full orange colour though lol.
I agree, the quin rose & new gamboge makes such a lovely color, like a deep red.
Really happy to find this demo!!! I was on my way to "refilling" my New Gamboge (Winsor Newton) when I discovered that the PY 153 was not available. (Obviously I had a nice supply to have lasted all this time! This sent me on a search for the best replacement . . . and I was down to these 2 paints! So for me, I think the Hansa Yellow Deep more closely fits what I'm looking for! Thank you!!!
So glad this demo was so useful to you! Hope you enjoy Hansa Yellow Deep!
Cathy Joerger PY 153 IS available. Just not being made any more.
What is the purpose of the gauze? Mimicking rough paper? Tx,
Thank you so much you help me a lot! After this video, I finally find a warm yellow tint what I was really needed!
I know this is an older video, but I had to comment; we write our Ys the same! I see it so rarely, especially uppercase, I'm surprised you don't write your 4s extra triangular to compensate like I do!
Wow, picking up a 2yo comment lol I too write my "y" like that and I do my 4s with extra triangular shape. Perhaps we were taught that, back when they taught penmanship?? 🤣
Hi Oto, my New Gamboge is a single pigment; I don't have Hansa Yellow Deep. I do use New Gamboge for sunsets, sunflowers, fire, and any other place where I want a warm yellow, either on its own or mixed.
Thank you Donna, which brand is that?
Oto, my brand of New Gamboge is Daniel Smith. A friend had purchased a tube for me. Not knowing that he had done so, I had purchased a tube for myself. I still had less than 1/4 of paint left in the tube that I wanted to replace. So, it's lasting quite a while.
wooooo I wonder if that is an older recipe! Would be interesting to see if the single and dual pigment new gamboge has any difference between them!
Donna, check your new tubes for pigment numbers.
@John Casteel PY 153 is an extinct color, in that no new supplies are being manufactured. If you are interested in it though, it is available still.
Thank you for this video as have Hansa Yellow Deep & see no reason to get New Gamodge!
Woohoo! I am so excited to see season 2! I happen to have both of these in my palate, and I prefer the hansa yellow deep. It's really personal preference. Seeing the start of season 2 made my day! Thanks so much Oto!
You are so welcome, and thank you for watching the video :D
Where can I get those sheets?
So SO beautiful!!!was waiting for this comparison! Thank you
so glad this was what you were looking for :D Thanks for watching!
Between py65 and new gamboge hue mix for a warm yellow I chose py110 isoindolinone yellow :) looking at the mixtures, maybe I made mistake though... :)
Which would you go for instead?
Oto Kano that's what I'm thinking about currently, but it's true I composed my palette around the py110 cause its super transparent, although closer to po62 benzi orange than yellow. New gamboge hue can be mixed with py151 or even py3 both are in my palette, but at first glance I realized that both of your selections mix pretty different than py110 on its own, when I got impression the difference isn't "that" huge from other resources :)
I'm single pigment lightfast nerd T_T py3 and pr122 are only "good" colors I compromised on cause I didn't find any good options :D (py175 is difficult to handle and for some reason I don't really like it's hue... Looks a bit "dirty" to me)
So now... I'm staying where I am, mostly cause no money... But it's nice to re-evaluate decisions once in a while :)
at time 1:42, I had to laugh! I'm glad you were waving the card around, I was feeling that excited too! I binge watched season 1... Your handmade Ultramarine Blue is beautiful, and I always love it with New Gamboge
ha ha yes! I was like 'THIS. IS. HAPPENING. Y'ALL' excited. Thank you, my blue isn't as good as Dan's. but I'm happy with it so far.
Thank you soooo much for this!! ❤️ Also, I happen to like the hand gestures!!
lol thank you for the support :D
Where do you get your swatch cards from? I like the rounded edges
XD I'm glad this second season was possible! I don't have any of those and when it comes to yellow I feel I don't have a strong opinion. Yet I finally bought the DS dot card and as I'm waiting for it I might prepare a chart with both transparency test and glazing since those are two major factors in my art. From the two, I like the best new gamboge with that unnatural glowy yellow tint in the watered down wash! Thank you for the informative video as always.
I think when my new gamboge runs out I'll swap over to hansa yellow
So, so helpful!
I have both on my palette for different green effect and brown effect
Yes! It's amazing how different the two mixes.
I have both of these colors on my palette as well. Just in case! lol Thanks for this showdown! :)
You are so welcome, thank you for watching it :D
oh thank you SO much for this. Yellows are so hard to shop for.
I just bought Hansa Yellow Deep after watching this video. :)
DS New Gambogde is made with 2 pigments unlike Hansa dark yellow which is made with a single pigment 😉
I think they are really interchangeable. Hansa Yellow Deep is also good for mixing brown and skin tones. I like to mix it with the Phthalo Blues, too. But I don't use it that often on my palette. I have both of them and both are so similar in mixes. There is not much of a difference for me personally.
Thanks for your amazing videos. I believe you meant to say Hansa Yellow Deep at 14:23
what this gauze is exactly is ?
not much in that one, it would be interesting to see the differnance with Hansa Yellow deep and Hansa Yellow light, tfs
Ian Jackson HY deep is yellow orange, HY light is a brilliant, greenish lemon with similar opacities. However, there are various hansa yellows available with differing properties and permanence ratings. It would be good for us to know what paints you are talking about. Each company often changes the pigments in their colors. That happens for a number of reasons, some good, some bad.
Permanent yellow deep is another really similar color
I think you misspoke @ 14:25. You said "New Gamboge" instead of "Hansa Yellow Deep"
Lovely video! You might want to watch this with CC on for English. One of the words might not be to your liking. :( As for the colors, I love them both and you have done a superb job of comparing them and informing us of the similarities and differences.
DS new gamboge is my LEST fav new gamboge out there. I like the cottman version wayyy better!! DS version just looks like a reg warm yellow
I enjoyed your video but Could I suggest not moving your hands in the video it makes it hard to see the colors as well.
Thanks for the advice, I will try to move my hands less.
I love your videos but would like to see you talking instead of your hands which is distracting😊
Your hands are distracting.
Turning off due to hand waving
🙋♀️🤹♀️🙋♂️🤹♂️💪🖖🖐🤚👋🤳🤙👉 👐 Buh-bye
New Gamboge is part of their "Essentials" 6-color pack from Daniel Smith, that contains the warm and cool primaries. This test shows that they should have gone for the Hansa Yellow Deep instead of the New Gamboge as part of their warm primaries trio.