5:10 the main reason I can think of as to why someone would remove the rear wheel drive components is mostly stemming from either being cheap or not having the money to fix it. The rear diff probably catastrophically failed and they chose the basically free rout and just removed everything so they could continue using the vehicle as a 2 wheel drive model.
2:06 I used to use soup cans, exhaust tape and coat hangers for my college car when the exhaust kept developing holes in pipe. Wasn't pretty, but it worked...... until it needed it again.. on a college budget (-$)
It's possible that the rear differential was indeed removed due to failure. However, the CV axle heads were likely left intact as they play a crucial role in holding the wheel bearings together.
Some of these customers are also the type to go back home and tell people that the mechanics are crooks who tried to upsell them a bunch of expensive parts they "don't need".
Shop: Your rear diff is blown up and it will cost $$$$ to get a new one. Customer: It is all wheel drive, just remove the rear diff and it will then be front wheel drive only. Shop: Can't do that Customer: I got a buddy that will do it.
That Jeep probably has another few thousand miles left on it. I wouldn’t take it out of town but just don’t fill the gas up more than a half tank and always have your phone on you when you drive. (The full tank thing is one of my superstitions, every time a vehicle of mine breaks down it’s soon after I fill the tank up)
I've only ever seen a 4wd delete like that once before. It's probably because something happened to the diff (possibly flat towing behind an RV) and they couldn't/ didn't want to fix it. So you just delete it. It's important to keep the axle stubs going through the spindle because the pressure of the axle nut is what keeps the wheel bearings together. Without it, the bearings would would be trashed in less than 10 miles. And that jeep at the end just had lifter tick. Change cam, lifters, and pushrods and it'll be a better running engine
2:16 Side to side play is normal. What you should really be worried about is up and down play. Also at 2:40 the engine would be running at wide open throttle without a throttle body. How it ran at idle speed is mind blowing
I have seen people remove the rear axles and make it front wheel drive but the diff usually stays. Diff probably failed and they decided to toss it all.
Honestly an easier fix than an actual rod knock. It doesn't sound like a traditional rod knock to me. Possible a valve or a lifter, but your idea maybe true.
Could be a lot of things, even a bad alternator can make a ticking noise like that. I'd remove the serpentine and see if it goes away as a first step. You're very likely correct though, could be just needs a timing chain tensioner replaced.
Hard to tell, I had a 4.7 that did that sound after a rebuild and it was the old exhaust manifolds, they got warped with the heads and wouldn't seal with the new heads.
The jeep that was given to someone…They can crank their music up so they don’t hear the tick. 😂🤣 If they have to spend a couple thousand to get it repaired, at least they didn’t pay for the vehicle too. I personally wouldn’t complain. ❤️❤️
Apart from failure they possibly sold the rear parts of the AWD system for a few bucks. Depending on the car the parts maybe rare and/or expensive so they either dumped them because they were broken. More realistic or sold them as a car flipper as the usual buyer won't notice and made some money on top. At least these are the two things I think about. Last option might be fuel consumption
#1 - That many zip tie mods is worth at least a second in the quarter mile @1:35 - Pez dispenser for parts! @3:40 - Pretty early for Halloween.... bubble... bubble... toil and trouble! @4:22 - And kids here we see a closeup of the rings of Saturn - aren't they magnificent?
The soda can thing is a classic temp fix tbh, if u clamp it right it can last a while. Cant make fun of someone for being resourceful, 10/10 for the exhaust patch ginger ale
That fix originated back when food cans were made of tin, not aluminum or alloy. A tin can was a semi-permanent fix. It would last as long as a piece of pipe you buy in a parts store now.
@@mjb12141963 i use 3 different cans, folded into a better layer, run a few clamps along the wrapped section, and it went about 100 miles till i could get to a shop, still didnt leak lol, its still do-able, juat need layers lol
@@tinknal6449 On many modern vehicles the front drive axles are going into the integrated unit of front diff and gearbox making it impossible unless you want to take down the gearbox, split it and remove the differential.
Totally agree, this was. Very difficult to watch and. Eye straining for me me as every video was the wrong aspect ratio besides the intro and outro. If you do this make the whole video vertical or do many shorts. Dislike button pressed 😭
We really need mechanical inspections in every state, and the state needs to run sting operations to shut down anyone selling false inspection stickers. People driving cars like this are endangering everyone else on the road.
Most cars these days have tire psi monitors. How many owners get in their car and find the low tire light ON, but after they drive a bit it goes off, so of course they blame the monitor. It wouldnt occur to them to check the tire psi. I'm guessing most. !
I have a neighbor have a Honda CRV that made the rear driveshaft removal because someone tell him that awd cars consume more fuel... And he can't figure why the transmission shift rough
I can't believe how many times in these vids, instances of customers DRIVING to the shop with demolished tires, wheels, collapsed suspension, etc. Are they unobservant or just plain stupid ? You do $ 5K of damage to save a $ 50.00 tow bill....
What engine was that, that was running without an intake??? Heck I wanna buy that model of car...No MAF, No Map, No TPS, No Throttle Body, and STILL RUNS! Not many engines can do that besides a few diesels.
@@trentryan27 OHHH..No thanks I don't need carbon on my valves. You know the Coyote engine has a factory workaround for this...Both normal injectors and also direct injection. Why don't other manufacturers do this?
That free Jeep isn't so bad. Dump a can (or two) of STP in it, and it'll be fine for at least three or four months just to drive around town. Just keep the revs down.
People, trying to find a noise. Use a stethoscope. If you don't have one, a long screwdriver or ratchet extension to the ear work just fine. You will never find 'em otherwise.
Hey, crazy question for the experts here; I'm driving a car that can take full synthetic oil, and I drive very little, maybe 4 miles a day, but idle for 2 hours a day (engine usage not shown on odometer). Should I really only worry about road mileage when deciding when to change synthetic oil? How old can I let the oil get? My shop's been advising me to not change the oil yet but two years on and I'm thinking it might be getting old by now?
Usually 6 months or a year (depending on the particular oil) is time to change regardless of miles. Its a matter of whichever comes first, the milage or the date.
Relatively yes. However all wheel drive doesn't mean all your wheels are spinning at the same time. The computer distributes power based on where it detects slip. So if your rear wheels are slipping they receive more power. It's honestly a very complex system and can lead to failure if you don't have tires that are the same size and tread depth. You transmission can stop working on an AWD car if you don't have the same tread depth on all 4 tires. As far as fuel economy the difference is probably 1-2 mpg max between an AWD and a 2wd model. The real difference is in how you drive not the platform you drive.
ECU is in an open loop status during warmup so no feedback is expected until certain parameters are met like CHT and coolant temp. The fact it runs is probably just a fluke of the right runner length and area being available allowing suction from the intake stroke to let the engine idle.
Thats why most western countries have an yearly savety inspection, here in the netherlands its called apk, and we check things like tires, rust, brakes, Ball joints, seatbelts, basicly every component on the car that would make it unsave to drive. Also emisions are tested. Every year! And that in a country where most people do only 10 k kilometers a year. Until your car reaches the age of 50 then the government expects you to make sure its save yourself. But yeah no noob can keep a 50 + year old car driving.
@@franklinvanproosdij Many places here had that also, then the shops started "finding" many things wrong that had to be fixed before your car passed and in some case's leave the shop.
@@brianlamb7937 ah yeah but we have a official agency called the rdw overseeing al the apk inspectors. When a car passes the apk check you have to officialy sign a form and send it in. And then the rdw can random check you. If there is a lot wrong with the check you can loose your apk licence. And you dont want that. Because no customers Will come to a garage that doesnt do the apk.
I'm convinced that "You're gonna kill somebody" is better than "we need to add steering parts to the car (truck)" to have any effect on these drivers. And legislatures say "we don't need no stinkin' safety inspections" while gumming a hotdog and beer.
Well spotted! Vertical videos are indeed blasphemic. God put our two eyes horizontally next to each other. Jesus made all screens and cameras horizontal. The last decade or so, Satan has fooled some of those who use telephones for shooting video into thinking that phones are exempt from the horizontal rule of nature. But there were several vertical videos, why single that one out?
Something isn’t right about the 2.7 “running” without the intake. That’s really not possible on a gasoline port injection engine, or at least it wouldn’t start and idle. It would be the same as basically full throttle, since there would be no throttle to limit the airflow. So, it would start and immediately start hammering the rev limiter.
Not unless it was getting the fuel needed to do so.. fuel injected engines operate on throttle position Wich calls for more fuel to be injected or else it won't rev no matter how much air you let it breathe
5:10 the main reason I can think of as to why someone would remove the rear wheel drive components is mostly stemming from either being cheap or not having the money to fix it. The rear diff probably catastrophically failed and they chose the basically free rout and just removed everything so they could continue using the vehicle as a 2 wheel drive model.
I agree, the new axle would probably cost more than the car is worth
And the axle stubs have to stay there, otherwise the bearings will fall apart.
Exactly
@@eefneleman9564 so as long as the part of the cv axle is attached to the wheel hub bearing you can drive it and it wont go bad?
2:06 I used to use soup cans, exhaust tape and coat hangers for my college car when the exhaust kept developing holes in pipe. Wasn't pretty, but it worked...... until it needed it again.. on a college budget (-$)
Rear differential was probably removed because it had failed. They left the CV axle heads in because they hold the wheel bearings together
can you do this as a long term thing?
@@IzumiMakoto-h4q yes, you can. I have seen cars that drove without the rear diff for tens of thousands of miles.
@@Bata.andrei and as long as the part of the cv axle that holds the bearing togther the bearings wont fail long term?
@@IzumiMakoto-h4q exactly. As long as that part is torqued with the big nut on the outside, the bearings will be happy and they will hold as normal.
It's possible that the rear differential was indeed removed due to failure. However, the CV axle heads were likely left intact as they play a crucial role in holding the wheel bearings together.
Some of these customers are also the type to go back home and tell people that the mechanics are crooks who tried to upsell them a bunch of expensive parts they "don't need".
Shop: Your rear diff is blown up and it will cost $$$$ to get a new one.
Customer: It is all wheel drive, just remove the rear diff and it will then be front wheel drive only.
Shop: Can't do that
Customer: I got a buddy that will do it.
James May did a 2WD mod to Richards Land Cruiser in the Bolivia special when the diff failed, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
customer: my tire is flat, can you check it?
mechanic: your tire isnt flat, your tire is gone
Mechanic: first I have to find it.
@@skuula pretty much. how can someone not know they lost a whole tire?
That Jeep probably has another few thousand miles left on it. I wouldn’t take it out of town but just don’t fill the gas up more than a half tank and always have your phone on you when you drive.
(The full tank thing is one of my superstitions, every time a vehicle of mine breaks down it’s soon after I fill the tank up)
Its like they know. I have had at least 4 or 5 vehicles do that to me.
5:35 Judging by the rest of the car, it probably broke and they had a friend remove it all saying "it'll be fine like this."
I've only ever seen a 4wd delete like that once before. It's probably because something happened to the diff (possibly flat towing behind an RV) and they couldn't/ didn't want to fix it. So you just delete it. It's important to keep the axle stubs going through the spindle because the pressure of the axle nut is what keeps the wheel bearings together. Without it, the bearings would would be trashed in less than 10 miles. And that jeep at the end just had lifter tick. Change cam, lifters, and pushrods and it'll be a better running engine
2:16 Side to side play is normal. What you should really be worried about is up and down play.
Also at 2:40 the engine would be running at wide open throttle without a throttle body. How it ran at idle speed is mind blowing
"Yes, could I please have the Scrapyard Special with a side of Voided Warranty? Thanks."
@5:10... Those style wheel bearings need the axle nut & the end of the CV shaft for integrity, without them the bearing would fail catastrophically.
It seems that I am changing my rotors way to often😂
Mechanic States "And just how the fuck did you get a license?" or "at what volume did the knocking noise indicate there was a problem?"
3:28 I love that DJ.
I have seen people remove the rear axles and make it front wheel drive but the diff usually stays.
Diff probably failed and they decided to toss it all.
Yay a free heep!!!! Should be good for a few hundred thousand miles
That jeep was just a timing chain guide being hit by the timing chain
Honestly an easier fix than an actual rod knock. It doesn't sound like a traditional rod knock to me. Possible a valve or a lifter, but your idea maybe true.
Could be a lot of things, even a bad alternator can make a ticking noise like that. I'd remove the serpentine and see if it goes away as a first step. You're very likely correct though, could be just needs a timing chain tensioner replaced.
Hard to tell, I had a 4.7 that did that sound after a rebuild and it was the old exhaust manifolds, they got warped with the heads and wouldn't seal with the new heads.
They wanted the FWD (Free Wheel Drive) 5:09
The jeep that was given to someone…They can crank their music up so they don’t hear the tick. 😂🤣 If they have to spend a couple thousand to get it repaired, at least they didn’t pay for the vehicle too. I personally wouldn’t complain. ❤️❤️
I would probably junk yard ls swap it
@@cloroxlavenderscent4307 i'de drive as is because im poor
@@fortheloveofnoise start saving
Apart from failure they possibly sold the rear parts of the AWD system for a few bucks. Depending on the car the parts maybe rare and/or expensive so they either dumped them because they were broken. More realistic or sold them as a car flipper as the usual buyer won't notice and made some money on top.
At least these are the two things I think about.
Last option might be fuel consumption
#1 - That many zip tie mods is worth at least a second in the quarter mile
@1:35 - Pez dispenser for parts!
@3:40 - Pretty early for Halloween.... bubble... bubble... toil and trouble!
@4:22 - And kids here we see a closeup of the rings of Saturn - aren't they magnificent?
1:32 looks like something I Do Cars would tear down. Yikes...
2:33 checked! Yes its flat.
These videos just absolutely BLOW MY MIND!!!😂😂😂😂 CRAZY!!!
The soda can thing is a classic temp fix tbh, if u clamp it right it can last a while. Cant make fun of someone for being resourceful, 10/10 for the exhaust patch ginger ale
That fix originated back when food cans were made of tin, not aluminum or alloy. A tin can was a semi-permanent fix. It would last as long as a piece of pipe you buy in a parts store now.
@@mjb12141963 i use 3 different cans, folded into a better layer, run a few clamps along the wrapped section, and it went about 100 miles till i could get to a shop, still didnt leak lol, its still do-able, juat need layers lol
5:09 - Removed rear diff to improve fuel consumption?
I would think it would be better to disengage the front. I think he dynamited the diff.
@@tinknal6449 On many modern vehicles the front drive axles are going into the integrated unit of front diff and gearbox making it impossible unless you want to take down the gearbox, split it and remove the differential.
@@ehsnils OK, my first first thought is still a seized up diff.
No rear differential failure. Hardly an improvement in fuel economy.
one thing i know is that in the US, they salt their roads so you see these really bad condition rusted parts falling off.
Those vertical videos are hard to make out. Maybe it's time to start rejecting some. Pointless to even post some.
Well they are mechanics not cameramen lol it’s just them shooting it on their phones
TH-cam should reject vertical videos. Instead, it encourages them by calling them "shorts". This plague must end!
Yep, 2/3rds of my screen is blank, even if I turn my TV on its side.
Totally agree, this was. Very difficult to watch and. Eye straining for me me as every video was the wrong aspect ratio besides the intro and outro.
If you do this make the whole video vertical or do many shorts.
Dislike button pressed 😭
The things people bitch about in the world these days,you’re all the same people who would complain that your drink is to wet as well :)
That tire undulating looks like it's going give birth.
To answer your question as to why someone would remove a rear diff, the answer is quite simple. It is broke, and so are they.
2:16 they are supposed to have some side to side play like that.... Lmao
2:29 yer gonna replace that piston, right. 🤭🤪😂 2:50 Whoa. That was impressive. 😮3:40 Again, impressive. 😅
It’s a shape these folks don’t know how to turn their phone sideways so the camera would be in landscape mode.
Ive seen people remove the diff so they could tow them behind RVs
We really need mechanical inspections in every state, and the state needs to run sting operations to shut down anyone selling false inspection stickers. People driving cars like this are endangering everyone else on the road.
customer states that my car has been making strange noises for like two years
2:39😂😂😂😂😂
Riiiiight. Um .... what tire?
The last video clip. The timbbomb Tick of death.
Most cars these days have tire psi monitors. How many owners get in their car
and find the low tire light ON, but after they drive a bit it goes off, so of course
they blame the monitor. It wouldnt occur to them to check the tire psi. I'm
guessing most.
!
I have a neighbor have a Honda CRV that made the rear driveshaft removal because someone tell him that awd cars consume more fuel... And he can't figure why the transmission shift rough
I like the videos but sometimes I have no idea what I am looking at can you change the format
2:40 the crazy part is the reasonable idle RPM 😂
I can't believe how many times in these vids, instances of customers DRIVING to the shop with demolished tires, wheels, collapsed suspension, etc. Are they unobservant or just plain stupid ? You do $ 5K of damage to save a $ 50.00 tow bill....
Ah yes ehxaust gas in the coolant, the forbidden exhale.
What engine was that, that was running without an intake??? Heck I wanna buy that model of car...No MAF, No Map, No TPS, No Throttle Body, and STILL RUNS! Not many engines can do that besides a few diesels.
Its a direct injection engine and I guarantee it wasn't running well
@@trentryan27 OHHH..No thanks I don't need carbon on my valves. You know the Coyote engine has a factory workaround for this...Both normal injectors and also direct injection. Why don't other manufacturers do this?
drive shaft went bad and they didnt/couldnt replace it. did that with a honda once
or the differential itself, as others say
Regarding the “free”Jeep, sometimes free is too much to pay.
Isn't that a factory tik?
What does the noise coming from the gifted jeep indicate (I don't know much about cars)?
That free Jeep isn't so bad. Dump a can (or two) of STP in it, and it'll be fine for at least three or four months just to drive around town. Just keep the revs down.
People, trying to find a noise. Use a stethoscope. If you don't have one, a long screwdriver or ratchet extension to the ear work just fine. You will never find 'em otherwise.
Zip ties are the new duct tape.
new rear diff is like 3k and most of those jeeps arent worth that
Without TPMS LIGHT will they run forever on destroyed or missing tire??
Hey, crazy question for the experts here; I'm driving a car that can take full synthetic oil, and I drive very little, maybe 4 miles a day, but idle for 2 hours a day (engine usage not shown on odometer). Should I really only worry about road mileage when deciding when to change synthetic oil? How old can I let the oil get? My shop's been advising me to not change the oil yet but two years on and I'm thinking it might be getting old by now?
3000 to 5000 miles or 6 months is what I've heard
Usually 6 months or a year (depending on the particular oil) is time to change regardless of miles. Its a matter of whichever comes first, the milage or the date.
It obviously takes more gas to run an all wheel drive vehicle than it does to run a two wheel/front wheel drive vehicle. 😂
Relatively yes. However all wheel drive doesn't mean all your wheels are spinning at the same time. The computer distributes power based on where it detects slip. So if your rear wheels are slipping they receive more power. It's honestly a very complex system and can lead to failure if you don't have tires that are the same size and tread depth. You transmission can stop working on an AWD car if you don't have the same tread depth on all 4 tires. As far as fuel economy the difference is probably 1-2 mpg max between an AWD and a 2wd model. The real difference is in how you drive not the platform you drive.
@@cloroxlavenderscent4307 I believe you missed the sarcasm in my comment. 🤔
2:40 I don't understand unless the engine PCM is keeping it at limp mode or it has IMRC plates.
ECU is in an open loop status during warmup so no feedback is expected until certain parameters are met like CHT and coolant temp. The fact it runs is probably just a fluke of the right runner length and area being available allowing suction from the intake stroke to let the engine idle.
🤔🤔about the customers plus 🤔🤔🤔mechanic.
How can people be so damn stupid about their cars? They don’t deserve to own one.
I think the same thing every time I watch these....these idiots are on the road with the rest of us..scary.
Thats why most western countries have an yearly savety inspection, here in the netherlands its called apk, and we check things like tires, rust, brakes, Ball joints, seatbelts, basicly every component on the car that would make it unsave to drive. Also emisions are tested. Every year! And that in a country where most people do only 10 k kilometers a year.
Until your car reaches the age of 50 then the government expects you to make sure its save yourself. But yeah no noob can keep a 50 + year old car driving.
@@franklinvanproosdij Many places here had that also, then the shops started "finding" many things wrong that had to be fixed before your car passed and in some case's leave the shop.
@@brianlamb7937 ah yeah but we have a official agency called the rdw overseeing al the apk inspectors.
When a car passes the apk check you have to officialy sign a form and send it in. And then the rdw can random check you. If there is a lot wrong with the check you can loose your apk licence. And you dont want that. Because no customers Will come to a garage that doesnt do the apk.
Also when it doesnt pass the apk.
Put some thick oil in the jeep and drive it till it ticks its last tick
Don't people know, oil and water DON'T mix???
The rear differential was gone because it was gifted to a friend who needed AWD
Mint 👍
Volume level is still too low.
Almost can't hear any sound
I'm convinced that "You're gonna kill somebody" is better than "we need to add steering parts to the car (truck)" to have any effect on these drivers.
And legislatures say "we don't need no stinkin' safety inspections" while gumming a hotdog and beer.
makes me super leery of buying a used car.
1:33 what the hell is going on here?
Looks like the valves have been hitting against the pistons.
AWD converted to FWD.
@snorkdaddydave Chunky McChunks!
Removing that $1K to replace driveshaft or the $1K to replace rear differential. 5:10
Thumbs down for including the blasphemy at 3:53. Do what's right.
Jesus Christ, are you being serious. 😑
Hail Satan 🤗
Well spotted! Vertical videos are indeed blasphemic. God put our two eyes horizontally next to each other. Jesus made all screens and cameras horizontal. The last decade or so, Satan has fooled some of those who use telephones for shooting video into thinking that phones are exempt from the horizontal rule of nature.
But there were several vertical videos, why single that one out?
Something isn’t right about the 2.7 “running” without the intake. That’s really not possible on a gasoline port injection engine, or at least it wouldn’t start and idle. It would be the same as basically full throttle, since there would be no throttle to limit the airflow. So, it would start and immediately start hammering the rev limiter.
Not unless it was getting the fuel needed to do so.. fuel injected engines operate on throttle position Wich calls for more fuel to be injected or else it won't rev no matter how much air you let it breathe
Its amazing how much stupid a car can take.