Great ramble Nick to follow up after Jerome & Skye. Just fascinating I can’t get enough of the ice age floods that’s what hooked me on the geology of the PNW I’d been loving all my life. Look forward to Skye & Jerome developing the story of Okanogan ice age floods! I’m getting more homesick for Wash with every outing. Much respect from down on the Southern Oregon Coast. No quakes today…
Yay! Another geohike! Double Yay! Another 351 class! Was looking forward to Baja-BC, but Ice Age Floods sound fun, too! Thanks again, Nick, for all you do!
Revisiting this one, now that I've been to Wenatchee, driven up Moses Coulee, contemplated Frenchman Coulee and "The Feathers," etc. One thing that stands out on a 2nd viewing is how nice it is to encounter other hikers / walkers who actually understand that basic rule of single-track hiking ("Downhill yields to uphill"). Far too many either don't know it, or ignore it. And yes, by mid-August, when I was in Wenatchee, wildflowers were hard to find, even on north slopes.
The Wenatchee floods are how I stumbled across your channel a long time ago. Was trying to find all the info I could about the Wenatchee clovis people, but learned all about pacific northwest geology instead. No regrets. I still wonder if there were people who got to witness some of these floods.
@@jimdavidsmith4374 no I'm not, I'm in the Midwest, not far from craig ratzat.. definitely aware of you guys, pretty sure I've used your heat treating guide.
@@flakesinyershoe8137 I grew up in Indiana, but live in Western Wa. We're called Puget Sound because here is where the group started. We have members all over America. No dues and such. Having a knapin 30 miles south of Missoula, Mt starting June 12.
Interesting. Very interesting. Glad to hear your teaching 350 again. I only did so so on reading the assigned material. This time around I plan on reading the ones I didnt last time. Your students are so lucky to have you teach them geology.
Viewing from Columbus Ga. Thank you for introducing me to geology and the history of WA geology. I have bought the Roadside Geology of Georgia and started learning my area.
@@gladysseaman4346 79 years and a Zentnerd.. he has many many of us hooked on geology and learning geology.. he is a fantastic teacher. His students have no idea how lucky they are to be able to take his classes. Whats the geology of Stone Mtn? Its in Ga.
Looks lovely in late May, but I won't be there until mid-to-late August, when brown / gray will probably be the dominant colors. Interesting questions about the origin(s) and timing of the bar and the Okanagan. Thanks for the views!
The most difficult concept for me to wrap my mind around is scale of time. The difference between 14,000 and 1,000,000 Ma is mostly incomprehensible. I keep recalibrating my sense of this every time I consider these issues. Pretty sure at the appropriate scale all of the above is most likely the answer! Thanks Nick!
Psychologists established a long time ago already that humans can only really comprehend numbers from zero to five. Everything above that gets increasingly abstract. So, yeah, you're normal!😀
As a dabbler since I discovered Nick and the Zentnerds, I hear 5 million years from the hundred-thousand-foot level as the start of the most recent Ice Ages. But then all details are confined to 20,000 to 13,000 years or so ago. It didn’t occur to me “Hey! What about the first 4,900,000 years?” until Nick started chatting with Skye. Is it really a blank canvas up to now I wonder.
In Western NY..its 2.3 myo to 10,000 yo..of course we have solid bedrock to measure down to..then everything else was mostly puked on top..not nearly as dramatic as there..
Yes please, a front row seat. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the videos with Skye and Jerome. Thank you Nick for bringing these people to us. Their views and dialogue are very “tactile”….. that’s the best way to describe my imagination in thinking about Ice Age floods. Always Thank You. 🥳
When I was taking classes at the Community College here in Wenatchee this was one of the first lessons we had in my geology class. Really neat stuff and totally makes sense as to why the scenery looks the way it does here, and why we have random giant boulders scattered about when you drive out a little north east from here where the scenery goes from forest to more barren.
Jerome said it correctly all those drainages are like gutters pointed south dumping rocks for quite a long time as the North American margin moves west. The Ice Age Floods could be icing on a very old cake.
Nick. I like your theories . I have crushed rock all over Chelan Okanogan and Ferry counties. The rocks are a little different in each. But im thinking like you the benches were full and tunneled out somewhat. Keep up the work
Nice flowers man. I have experienced a preponderance of wildflowers down here in Southern California this spring. The area around me for miles has been burned over and over through the last decade, and oaks and some sage survive, but there are many barren hillsides which are now being dominated by grasses and wildflowers. It's interesting to watch the progress of recovery.
This area seems much better watered than most of the places you go to. It must be how the topography affects the rainfall in this part. There are still beautiful wildflowers out here and lush grasses. I would have been a very attractive place for native Americans to come and harvest things that grew here but were scarce in the drier parts.
Good Video @NickZentner Great questions. Took my first pass through this one and Jerome's inside bend grabbed my attention. But then when you add into the mix, Water levels. Got me thinking of Hydrology and it's 3D effects on the scene. In my mind , had to be another mechanism to slow that volume of water down. YES, it has to be the roll of the boulders ( in part ) before even finding this : Figure 4 - Boulder field ( acting like a riffle ) at the head of the Pangborn, Erratics and Other Evidence of Late Wisconsin Missoula Outburst Floods in Lower Wenatchee and Adjacent Columbia Valleys, Washington Richard B. Waitt, William A. Long, Kelsay M. Stanton
Lovely scenery in this location. Also more questions raised that need investigation. Watch this channel for further revelations! Thanks for taking us with you. 🐻
Yes the vastness of time is very difficult for many including top Geologists. The maths way is to add a zero to each date and think about it. The other thing is we concertrate so much on one thing that we over look something else that looks more interesting as Nick has just proved!!!
I love your videos sir. I'd love to visit these places but central Washington is a little far from Orange County, CA. Wish somebody like you was around here.
Great video! Thanks, Nick. I'M GOING TO KEEP HAMMERING THIS POINT UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS UP TO CURLEW AND DOES A VIDEO ABOUT THOSE GLACIAL ERRATICS! Boulder Creek Rd, east of Curlew, the biggest and most numerous boulder field in all of Washington! It's only 4 hours from Ellensburg...just sayin'. LOL
I have been recently watching FlyingMAir with Maria Langer taking Nick in her helicopter up over this area and south and east along the Columbia River. What a great series of aerial views with comments by both on what you are seeing mainly the landscape made by the Ice Age Floods. Maria will be flying over the Snake River next week so check out her video on it when you can.
I love your approach to “Science”. You come across as someone who accepts nothing as Gospel, but rather something to consider, absorb but still to question. The only certainty in Science is that what is “fact” today could easily be “ill conceived argument” some time in the future.
It is Geology, The first lesson you tell students is: Knowledge as we know it today - because it can all change tomorrow... Scientific discipline follows the same rules with every subject...
What if ice age floods were common in the NW; the Missoula floods were the upper limits, and alpine ice cap impounded lakes were the lower limits of the scale?
Watching in front of your feet, there sure is a lot of that floury soil looks like a silty slow water deposit. (Or loess or ash?) A couple weeks back I was at my in-laws, between Ellensburg and Thorpe. The soil is a jumble of fines to cobbles. Which seems the opposite, a fast deposit with no time to sort out in settling.
At 9:18 and 9:44, you can see it much better. It says "Stop. Not a trail. Restoration area." I'm guessing there used to be some things that looked like a trail there that actually weren't. This is especially true of the signs at 9:44 where the plants are notably different.
Next up, geological play by play of the washington PCT. Then maybe keep walking to Mexico. Next, the other 2 major trails (CDT, AT). Then mix in a dash (just a dash) of the possibility of catastrophism. Shoot. If you do that, I'll drag the kids out of retirement and walk them all again. Field School.
I have been wondering about the terraces in the Okanogan valley since I live on one and can look across the valley at Tonasket Airport and see the opposite terrace at the same elevation. I know that 40 inches down through the moon dust fluff that is our top soil is apparent river bar material, sand and rounded rock up to 4 inch cobbles and bigger, and I wonder how it got 400 feet above the current river level. Was the whole valley at one time filled with river deposits from an ancient meandering Okanogan River and then later gouged out to its present level by a series of catastrophic floods? Just wondering out loud, so to speak.
If you go up HWY 17 from Bridgeport (as if to go to Grand Coulee this is about 25 ish miles from GCD eg: hwy 97 to 17 towards GCD) you'll see some really cool land markings out that way (i know because this is literally right where i live LOL). My guess is that the entire area was filled during the ice age (though i'm a US history buff not so much ancient history, paleontology or paleoclimatology LOL way beyond my scope) With the recent-ish (2020) fires (Cold springs/Pearl Hill fires) out this way watermarks are even more visible sans sage and with this years wildflowers truly is just gorgeous. But unfortunately not public land and our 50 acres isn't enough to really get a view of that (miraculously our land was untouched by the fires, they jumped the river but a dozer line just on the other side of our 50 held, so we're mostly sage with 12 acres around the house cleared). But anyhow you can actually see the bars, bluffs and smallish caves the ice and floods made. Really cool, really pretty. Also on the other side of us, over near Mansfield the pot hills are really cool too, it's neat to see how nature made (and continues to make) our landscapes. BTW thanks for the video - it's really cool to see places i know very well on youtube. Like hey, i know where he is!!! LOL
I enjoy the talks of ice age floods but I never hear anything about when all that water and debris hit the ocean. Have there been any discoveries made about that?
I'd like to see a hydrologist weigh in on this. Topographically, there's a significant choke point just downstream of Panghorn at the old Alcoa factory. Would this be sufficient to back up floodwaters enough to create the "great bar" at more or less the same elevation from Brewster to Rock Island?
Simply backing up floodwaters does not produce bars like those at pangborn. A backup would create a widespread deposit … see Walla Walla Valley and Yakima Valley as examples.
I have two criteria for my belief system. Does it sound real based on what I know so far... am I open to rescind and revamp my beliefs. I expect my sources to have the same... you, Nick Zentner, have the same.
@@stevenwiederholt7000 I'm more of a silver moonlight person. 🌚 But we still totally have golden sunrise. 🌞 I used to go across the street from my house after school. There was a huge orchard kids would pick apples in before going to the park.
You need a drone that's good in the winds to film with. Then you can have some real good views. Better have a real big external HD for the video and picture files. Maybe your university could have some with on call certified and good drone pilots.
They already have. the oil companies worked their way through Washington lookin for potential play. Unfortunately they tend to keep the data to themselves.
@@glenod Thank you for enquiring. If you asked that question, a lot of people will have thought something similar. The work done by Jerome and his team may have already answered the questions on the flood events. There are many Geography\Geology schools Worldwide working on post glacial deposits.
Lightning Ridge AustraliaScientist have proven the deposits around 4,000...so would you say, they are just full of GUINESS???they do have a good BEST black opal and Black ale...
Nick its not radical thought. What do we know is ice ages are driven by the Milankovitch cycles ~100,000 years providing atmospheric Co2 levels are low so in 1MA ~10 cycles each one probable erasing most of the evidence of the previous ice age?
Sounds like 351 will be reviewing the current evidence and who knows, could trigger some Masters or PHD level research. Floods of that magnitude would be devastating in todays world.
Ice dams eh? Has anyone ever seen an ice dam capable of holding back that much water? I don't think so. Do they even have a viable hypothesis on how a lake with that much water can exist on top of an ice pack a mile thick. Come on man. If it's that cold why was the lake not frozen?
I just don’t understand any of this specifically don’t understand why I have to be here hence the attempted murder on my life in 1990 then the attempted murder on my life in 2020 don’t understand why I am seeing all this
Can't get enough of the ice age floods, or of these rambling hikes - thanks mucho, Nick!
nice "ramble" session. I do enjoy the flowers and mental exercise of "what if's". Thanks for sharing.
Love listening to you explain how my home town came to be. Thanks and safe travels!
"You're just a teacher." Like Bing Crosby was just a singer.
Thanks for taking us along on your trip. I always learn so much :)
Great ramble Nick to follow up after Jerome & Skye. Just fascinating I can’t get enough of the ice age floods that’s what hooked me on the geology of the PNW I’d been loving all my life. Look forward to Skye & Jerome developing the story of Okanogan ice age floods! I’m getting more homesick for Wash with every outing. Much respect from down on the Southern Oregon Coast. No quakes today…
really impressed by the number of videos you have been making latley Nick. Really enjoy these after a long days work
Nice walk. Thank you Nick. Flowers and birds. I will listen and soon be able to tell this story to others, ...
I was born in Wenatchee in 1949. My mom and dad had the little grocery store in Dryden.
Perfect, thanks Nick! Junior working on Glacial Lake Missoula paper for his final high school project right now.
Yay! Another geohike! Double Yay! Another 351 class! Was looking forward to Baja-BC, but Ice Age Floods sound fun, too! Thanks again, Nick, for all you do!
Revisiting this one, now that I've been to Wenatchee, driven up Moses Coulee, contemplated Frenchman Coulee and "The Feathers," etc. One thing that stands out on a 2nd viewing is how nice it is to encounter other hikers / walkers who actually understand that basic rule of single-track hiking ("Downhill yields to uphill"). Far too many either don't know it, or ignore it. And yes, by mid-August, when I was in Wenatchee, wildflowers were hard to find, even on north slopes.
The Wenatchee floods are how I stumbled across your channel a long time ago. Was trying to find all the info I could about the Wenatchee clovis people, but learned all about pacific northwest geology instead. No regrets. I still wonder if there were people who got to witness some of these floods.
Flakes Inyershoe, are you a flint knapper?
@@jimdavidsmith4374 yes.
@@flakesinyershoe8137 Same here. Are you a member of the Puget Sound Knappers, or are you aware of us?
@@jimdavidsmith4374 no I'm not, I'm in the Midwest, not far from craig ratzat.. definitely aware of you guys, pretty sure I've used your heat treating guide.
@@flakesinyershoe8137 I grew up in Indiana, but live in Western Wa. We're called Puget Sound because here is where the group started. We have members all over America. No dues and such. Having a knapin 30 miles south of Missoula, Mt starting June 12.
Facinating perspective on the amazing floods of the past , thanks so much Nick!
Interesting. Very interesting. Glad to hear your teaching 350 again. I only did so so on reading the assigned material. This time around I plan on reading the ones I didnt last time. Your students are so lucky to have you teach them geology.
definitely onboard for 351!
Hi, ( I love hiking those hills! ) Great questions... and I'm glad you are sharing them with us. It is exciting to pose new ideas. Thank you, Nick! 💕
Yes, great questions. Science is questions. Are these rocks...? Answerable, interesting, and an advance of our understanding.
Viewing from Columbus Ga. Thank you for introducing me to geology and the history of WA geology. I have bought the Roadside Geology of Georgia and started learning my area.
Please stop downgrading teaching. You are a gifted teacher, who has been instrumental in getting thousands interested in geology.
By the way I am 79 and am a retired librarian.
@@gladysseaman4346 79 years and a Zentnerd.. he has many many of us hooked on geology and learning geology.. he is a fantastic teacher. His students have no idea how lucky they are to be able to take his classes. Whats the geology of Stone Mtn? Its in Ga.
Thank You and we love you twice as much as you stopped to turn around in order for us to enjoy the view of the flowers 🌻
so true!
I have been here for one of my softball tournaments and it was at walla walla park and it was so fun
So very cool to see my home and learn about the geology beneath my feet. Thank you.
In a world of chaos, your a bit of fresh air Nick.
Just thinking to myself last week how cool it would be to run into you on the trail someday and I was on those trails today! Too bad I missed you,
Beautiful. Thank You! 🙂
Looks lovely in late May, but I won't be there until mid-to-late August, when brown / gray will probably be the dominant colors. Interesting questions about the origin(s) and timing of the bar and the Okanagan. Thanks for the views!
The most difficult concept for me to wrap my mind around is scale of time. The difference between 14,000 and 1,000,000 Ma is mostly incomprehensible. I keep recalibrating my sense of this every time I consider these issues. Pretty sure at the appropriate scale all of the above is most likely the answer! Thanks Nick!
Psychologists established a long time ago already that humans can only really comprehend numbers from zero to five. Everything above that gets increasingly abstract. So, yeah, you're normal!😀
As a dabbler since I discovered Nick and the Zentnerds, I hear 5 million years from the hundred-thousand-foot level as the start of the most recent Ice Ages. But then all details are confined to 20,000 to 13,000 years or so ago. It didn’t occur to me “Hey! What about the first 4,900,000 years?” until Nick started chatting with Skye. Is it really a blank canvas up to now I wonder.
In Western NY..its 2.3 myo to 10,000 yo..of course we have solid bedrock to measure down to..then everything else was mostly puked on top..not nearly as dramatic as there..
Yes please, a front row seat. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the videos with Skye and Jerome.
Thank you Nick for bringing these people to us. Their views and dialogue are very “tactile”….. that’s the best way to describe my imagination in thinking about Ice Age floods. Always Thank You. 🥳
Thank you Professor Zentner
When I was taking classes at the Community College here in Wenatchee this was one of the first lessons we had in my geology class. Really neat stuff and totally makes sense as to why the scenery looks the way it does here, and why we have random giant boulders scattered about when you drive out a little north east from here where the scenery goes from forest to more barren.
I live here! Such a beautiful area!!
I'm a truck driver and I've delivered to the Costco in Wenatchee a couple times and I love the area up there. Gonna sub to ya.
Thank You Nick.
Jerome said it correctly all those drainages are like gutters pointed south dumping rocks for quite a long time as the North American margin moves west. The Ice Age Floods could be icing on a very old cake.
Thanks for the flowers, Nick. I like this hike.
Nick. I like your theories . I have crushed rock all over Chelan Okanogan and Ferry counties. The rocks are a little different in each. But im thinking like you the benches were full and tunneled out somewhat. Keep up the work
Nice flowers man. I have experienced a preponderance of wildflowers down here in Southern California this spring. The area around me for miles has been burned over and over through the last decade, and oaks and some sage survive, but there are many barren hillsides which are now being dominated by grasses and wildflowers. It's interesting to watch the progress of recovery.
Such interesting questions.. I can see it as you ask them.. Thrilling
Thank you Nick!!!
This area seems much better watered than most of the places you go to. It must be how the topography affects the rainfall in this part. There are still beautiful wildflowers out here and lush grasses. I would have been a very attractive place for native Americans to come and harvest things that grew here but were scarce in the drier parts.
Awesome my first local youtuber to subscribe to. I look forward to more thanks Nick!
Good Video @NickZentner Great questions. Took my first pass through this one and Jerome's inside bend grabbed my attention. But then when you add into the mix, Water levels. Got me thinking of Hydrology and it's 3D effects on the scene. In my mind , had to be another mechanism to slow that volume of water down. YES, it has to be the roll of the boulders ( in part ) before even finding this : Figure 4 - Boulder field ( acting like a riffle ) at the head of the Pangborn, Erratics and Other Evidence of Late Wisconsin Missoula Outburst Floods in Lower Wenatchee and Adjacent Columbia Valleys, Washington
Richard B. Waitt, William A. Long, Kelsay M. Stanton
Nick in my hometown!
Lovely scenery in this location.
Also more questions raised that need investigation.
Watch this channel for further revelations!
Thanks for taking us with you. 🐻
Yes the vastness of time is very difficult for many including top Geologists. The maths way is to add a zero to each date and think about it. The other thing is we concertrate so much on one thing that we over look something else that looks more interesting as Nick has just proved!!!
Purple is my favorite color thank you :D
Hello from Red Deer Alberta Canada 🇨🇦.
I love your videos sir. I'd love to visit these places but central Washington is a little far from Orange County, CA. Wish somebody like you was around here.
Great video! Thanks, Nick. I'M GOING TO KEEP HAMMERING THIS POINT UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS UP TO CURLEW AND DOES A VIDEO ABOUT THOSE GLACIAL ERRATICS! Boulder Creek Rd, east of Curlew, the biggest and most numerous boulder field in all of Washington! It's only 4 hours from Ellensburg...just sayin'. LOL
Hello from Lake Chelan! We were on the butte looking to Wenatchee today!
I have been recently watching FlyingMAir with Maria Langer taking Nick in her helicopter up over this area and south
and east along the Columbia River. What a great series of aerial views with comments by both on what you are seeing
mainly the landscape made by the Ice Age Floods. Maria will be flying over the Snake River next week so check out
her video on it when you can.
Was waiting on pins and needles for your upload.
I love your approach to “Science”. You come across as someone who accepts nothing as Gospel, but rather something to consider, absorb but still to question.
The only certainty in Science is that what is “fact” today could easily be “ill conceived argument” some time in the future.
It is Geology, The first lesson you tell students is:
Knowledge as we know it today - because it can all change tomorrow...
Scientific discipline follows the same rules with every subject...
Professor Z notices plants, the meme about geologists won't work on him.
Fascinating stuff. Dunno why never talked to late father about these he was lifelong active geologist.
I so wish you could come to the Cabinet Mountains by Libby MT to tell our kids and us about our geology!
We need a collab with you and Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't!
Wow a person without geology of any kind would just be stumped to be in that same area and be wondering how that scene came to be.
Reminds me of the idea for an ancestral Rocky Mountains from the Pennsylvanian time with looking for heavily weathered granites.
What if ice age floods were common in the NW; the Missoula floods were the upper limits, and alpine ice cap impounded lakes were the lower limits of the scale?
Watching in front of your feet, there sure is a lot of that floury soil looks like a silty slow water deposit. (Or loess or ash?)
A couple weeks back I was at my in-laws, between Ellensburg and Thorpe. The soil is a jumble of fines to cobbles. Which seems the opposite, a fast deposit with no time to sort out in settling.
At 9:07, does anyone know what the little "STOP" sign to the left of the trail is for?
Thanks for the video, Nick!
At 9:18 and 9:44, you can see it much better. It says "Stop. Not a trail. Restoration area." I'm guessing there used to be some things that looked like a trail there that actually weren't. This is especially true of the signs at 9:44 where the plants are notably different.
@@PedroDaGr8 Appreciate it. Thanks! Couldn't quite make it out.
Hello from Cincinnati. Ohio
interesting! sounds like a grad student got some explaining to do! thank you ALL stay safe
Interesting, I'd never tied the Okanogan Flats with Pangborn Bench. Makes the brain bend.
4:48 Western Meadowlark singing 🥰
It would be awsome if someone would create a CG animation on one of your videos like this one. Complete with you in it while commentating.
Next up, geological play by play of the washington PCT. Then maybe keep walking to Mexico. Next, the other 2 major trails (CDT, AT). Then mix in a dash (just a dash) of the possibility of catastrophism.
Shoot. If you do that, I'll drag the kids out of retirement and walk them all again. Field School.
Sure wish I could take your class!
I have been wondering about the terraces in the Okanogan valley since I live on one and can look across the valley at Tonasket Airport and see the opposite terrace at the same elevation. I know that 40 inches down through the moon dust fluff that is our top soil is apparent river bar material, sand and rounded rock up to 4 inch cobbles and bigger, and I wonder how it got 400 feet above the current river level. Was the whole valley at one time filled with river deposits from an ancient meandering Okanogan River and then later gouged out to its present level by a series of catastrophic floods? Just wondering out loud, so to speak.
If you go up HWY 17 from Bridgeport (as if to go to Grand Coulee this is about 25 ish miles from GCD eg: hwy 97 to 17 towards GCD) you'll see some really cool land markings out that way (i know because this is literally right where i live LOL). My guess is that the entire area was filled during the ice age (though i'm a US history buff not so much ancient history, paleontology or paleoclimatology LOL way beyond my scope) With the recent-ish (2020) fires (Cold springs/Pearl Hill fires) out this way watermarks are even more visible sans sage and with this years wildflowers truly is just gorgeous. But unfortunately not public land and our 50 acres isn't enough to really get a view of that (miraculously our land was untouched by the fires, they jumped the river but a dozer line just on the other side of our 50 held, so we're mostly sage with 12 acres around the house cleared). But anyhow you can actually see the bars, bluffs and smallish caves the ice and floods made. Really cool, really pretty. Also on the other side of us, over near Mansfield the pot hills are really cool too, it's neat to see how nature made (and continues to make) our landscapes. BTW thanks for the video - it's really cool to see places i know very well on youtube. Like hey, i know where he is!!! LOL
Is there an East Coast Dr Nick out there?
I enjoy the talks of ice age floods but I never hear anything about when all that water and debris hit the ocean. Have there been any discoveries made about that?
What is this gizmo you speak of? Does it have to do with your smooth panning, etc?
Adios amigo.
NO dont give up on ice age floods! they ARE the greatest
I'd like to see a hydrologist weigh in on this. Topographically, there's a significant choke point just downstream of Panghorn at the old Alcoa factory. Would this be sufficient to back up floodwaters enough to create the "great bar" at more or less the same elevation from Brewster to Rock Island?
Simply backing up floodwaters does not produce bars like those at pangborn. A backup would create a widespread deposit … see Walla Walla Valley and Yakima Valley as examples.
I have two criteria for my belief system. Does it sound real based on what I know so far... am I open to rescind and revamp my beliefs. I expect my sources to have the same... you, Nick Zentner, have the same.
Hello, from encinitas ca.
@@macking104north saxony, concretions abound if you know where to look.
Annyone who has never been to this part of the country...Do Yourself a Big Favor.....GO
Always been here. Never leave. Wenatchee is the best place on earth.
@@lindakay9552
I used to go pick apples there Back In The Day. I remember the Golden sunrises.
@@stevenwiederholt7000 I'm more of a silver moonlight person. 🌚
But we still totally have golden sunrise. 🌞
I used to go across the street from my house after school. There was a huge orchard kids would pick apples in before going to the park.
Why is there so little vegetation on those hills?
Lack of rain and the occasional fire
And things out loud about that one point in time,, could that massive resent flood waters be linked to the event that caused the Carolina Bays,
Ive been on that trail
Cool Man.
Anyone done butterfly surveys here??
I would love to see a video with Nick and Randal Carlson.
You need a drone that's good in the winds to film with. Then you can have some real good views. Better have a real big external HD for the video and picture files. Maybe your university could have some with on call certified and good drone pilots.
why cant these places be drill cored and dated from the cores?
They already have. the oil companies worked their way through Washington lookin for potential play.
Unfortunately they tend to keep the data to themselves.
@@adem-Savs of course they would. ta for the reply.
@@glenod Thank you for enquiring.
If you asked that question, a lot of people will have thought something similar. The work done by Jerome and his team may have already answered the questions on the flood events.
There are many Geography\Geology schools Worldwide working on post glacial deposits.
Lightning Ridge AustraliaScientist have proven the deposits around 4,000...so would you say, they are just full of GUINESS???they do have a good BEST black opal and Black ale...
Jerome should focus on Nanaimo.
Nick its not radical thought. What do we know is ice ages are driven by the Milankovitch cycles ~100,000 years providing atmospheric Co2 levels are low so in 1MA ~10 cycles each one probable erasing most of the evidence of the previous ice age?
Bro knock it off there are already wayyyy to many people moving here. Stop show casing the beauty of our valley. We don’t want anymore coasties
Let's be more realistic and talk about thousands of years.... not millions of years....
Sounds like 351 will be reviewing the current evidence and who knows, could trigger some Masters or PHD level research. Floods of that magnitude would be devastating in todays world.
Definitely. I was born and raised in Wenatchee and it has had many floods in it's history. I can remember them well.
@@TheDanEdwards with respect to Nick... He doesn't have enough experience.
faf
Get your shovel and dig a trench to bedrock, date everything. It shouldn't take more than a few days.
Ice dams eh? Has anyone ever seen an ice dam capable of holding back that much water? I don't think so.
Do they even have a viable hypothesis on how a lake with that much water can exist on top of an ice pack a mile thick. Come on man. If it's that cold why was the lake not frozen?
I just don’t understand any of this specifically don’t understand why I have to be here hence the attempted murder on my life in 1990 then the attempted murder on my life in 2020 don’t understand why I am seeing all this