I don’t think I explained my driving strategy for testing enough in this video so hope this clarifies: Strategy 1: Rip it to drain the battery low and try and find a 350kW charger to see big charging speeds Strategy 2: Normal driving into Grand Junction to simulate how a normal person would cruise with wide open roads Strategy 3: Gentler cruising over the Rockies getting the highest efficiency of the trip
Thanks for the summary. Your approach is more “real world” and like most people drive , it varies depending on the circumstances like “I’m late!” Or “lets have some fun now!” Etc.
We don’t have access to serious EA help. I have been stuck innumerable times trying to get a charge at Electrify America. It actually pushed me away from electric cars for long distance use and as of over 1 year ago I no longer take electric road trips. I’m glad you document the issues, because I have posted about this online and been called a FUD spreader by the Electrify America Stans. I invested almost $100k in a luxury car, had awful charging experiences, and been called a liar for documenting it. So freaking frustrating.
Even though some of these conditions or experiences can be stressful to most of us average people, your humor and demeanor always make for a fair review, a great experience and much less nail biting. Your reviews assist those interested in motoring technology to make an informed purchase or not, or to just learn about the newest technology in cars. Thx! Be safe.
Couldn’t agree more. Kyle is a great ambassador for an emerging market that has its fair share of issues but seeing someone adapt and overcome helps adoption and the future resolution around these issues.
Yesterday I typed Lucid into my search on TH-cam. Watched 2 of your videos then went for a walk this morning…and I’m staying in Palm Springs! I see the driveway where your trip began (across the street is the home with all the plant canopies). Small world! Thank you for your video. The electrify America network needs some help. I was thinking you were about to be stranded out there. Glad you made it back to Colorado. I’ll be watching more of your videos!
25:35 Honestly, I don't think there's much to optimize with trips in the Lucid. With easily 400 to 450 miles of minimum driving range, most people will just drive it like a gas car. A couple of 10 to 15 minute stops at a convenience store would be more than enough to drive 800+ miles in a day, which is more than most people would ever consider driving. The bigger factor is being able to find and identify faster chargers that are located conveniently for the trip.
That's kind of true. I find my self driving in my ICE 🧊 vehicle around town about the same distance my family and I drive on vacation in a weeks time ⏲️.
1 year of owning an EV is all i could muster. There are so many issues with none working chargers, shitty apps, charging queues and not many DC chargers in general. The insane price of electricity currently did not help, sold it and went back to our diesel machine.
@@TB-xv7rn While EA's reliability isn't the greatest, it's nowhere near as bad as some claim. The bigger issue is how crowded these sites have become, so even a single charger going down is a much bigger issue. The thing about the Lucid Air is that, even arriving with 10% battery, you could typically make it to another charging site if all of the chargers are down or in use.
I couldn’t imagine buying such an expensive car and truly worrying about chargers not working. There are so many great cars out there crippled by terrible charging networks. Fun video as always.
@@Kr0n1k8 I just rented a Tesla and the assurance of the Tesla charging network helped me with the anxiety of driving from Houston to Natchitoches Louisiana.
Charging in some bad part of town (or Antifa-infested places) wouldn't be great, either. All the wizardry needed to keep these cars moving seems fragile, and officials warn that EVs could be stuck during storm evacuations, etc. with power outages.
@Jordon Manwaring Tesla are nice, but if you see how they are made, they have serious issues!! Just as Ford did when they were new. There is always room for improvement. If Lucid can fix some small issues, it will overtake tesla. BTW, the lucid engineer is the SAME guy WHO designed the Tesla Model S!! Don't underestimate Lucid like people underestimated Tesla in the beginning!
Road tripping in my Air GT I target arriving at under 10% and unplugging at about 50%. Driving at a more modest pace, that gives me an easy two hour driving stint between 10-15 minute stops. I don't bother with preconditioning and, of course, it's easy to charge a little more where chargers are sparse. When younger I would press on regardless, driving hours on end, but have found that stretching my legs every couple hours keeps my mind in the game on the highway and I arrive at my destination in functional condition. Since I would be stopping anyway, I find the Lucid has usually charged past my target by the time I find the bio-break facilities and buy a drink or whatever. Travelling in a Lucid today also means allowing a little time to talk to the gawkers.
I can't deal with this type of charging network. I did numerous multi day road trips in a Tesla, and charging has always been great. I would love to see these charging speeds on my car, but not at the cost of stressing every time that the charger will be on the fritz
This is what’s needed imo 450-500 mi range. I loved the Lucid ever since I first saw it. I’m sure they’ll iron out the software issues but overall this car is it! My only gripe is the charging network and the anxieties causes wondering if the charger will work! I was anxious just watching you try to charge!
Kyle likes his histrionics.... I have yet to meet a DC fast charger that didnt work for me. Not all of them have been a seamless expirience of plug play and go but I have gotten them to work every time with some minor fuss. Of late they have all worked plug and charge with zero hiccups. You simply have to be prepared. Credit card, check, RFID card, check, App, check. Simply the state of charging for now. For me, the initial issues were from Mercedes itself it took them a while to get the car registered into the networks. Again these are teething issues. Which are getting progressively worked out.
Confirmed for me the charging network still isn’t up to the task. Also, at the Loves stop, I was surprised to see the $38 cost of charging if you were paying for it. Man, what happened to the days of “oh, it costs $8 to full charge?”
1:01:21 Sadly, these double activations are probably the #1 issue with Electrify America's reliability. It's connected to everything from FordPass issues to why some people have problems activating the charger with an app after they've plugged in (they don't wait for the handshake to complete). I know a number of your viewers jump on the CCS standard or the public charging infrastructure as a whole for being the culprit, but in my experience, this is all on Electrify America (and partly on the automakers who have attempted ISO plug and charge). As people start to get more experience with faster, non-Electrify America chargers, they might start to change their perceptions a bit.
Reminds me of the 1970s gas crisis. Spending an hour trying to get the gas cap off after standing in a long line realizing that you had to put a locking gas cap on to keep people from stealing gas and not bringing the key. When you finally got the cap off you remember that your license plate has the wrong digit for gas today.
Great road trip Kyle, loved the nod to Spinal Tap “hello Cleveland” moment when they couldn’t find the stage…”this is it, this will be fastest charge ever……oh shit error”. Cool man 👍
20:20: I have a BMW I4, there is usually a curve to the charge on my car. It states I can get 200 kw and I have when it preps, but generally only for about the first minute, then it goes down to 160 or so, till about 40% then it goes to 120, and so on till it levels around 80kW. 29:50 This is what you can expect of Electrify America, (EA) 1/10 th of the time in my experience. Call the 800 number, they may answer in an hour. 59:00 Yep more EA errors. Car may be amazing, EA will throw cold water on that with figuring out plugging in and charging will work. 1:05:10 Nice. My top charge ever has only been DC 186kW for a few seconds.
Went to Electrify America today and had no cell phone service. Couldn't swipe to charge and couldn't call customer service. What a wonderful feeling. Lol
Okay this is the 1st video I've watched, came over after listening to The Smoking Tyre, very impressive amount of information, gorgeous looking car with pretty good range, will be looking out for your next videos, Rj in Oz
I had a problem last weekend with an EA - they were all "complimentary", but one stall/unit apparently didn't get the memo, and would fail to start. I had to move over to a different stall to get the charge to start. I was towing with my Rivian, and the first station was the only one I could park at and reach without disconnecting the trailer. So of course I had to disconnect the trailer to pull into a different stall to charge. But another Rivian pulled up as I was doing it - they had just finished a day of offroading.
Hy from Romania Europe, my God Awesome Trip and Lucid is the best Cruzer simply Gorgeus Phenomenal Car , Thank you for sharing this Awesome experience and by the way Nice roads you have there and Beutifoul landscapes .
Great road-trip in an amazing car! Your 2nd to last charging experience confirmed everything I've heard and read so far about Charge America. It's hit and miss with this network. Although you were able to resolve the problem, most drivers probably would not have the same outcome. That's why I'm staying with Tesla.
18:22 The lack of a DC pin cover is a serious problem. Most likely, Lucid owners will be parking indoors, but not always. L2 charging overnight at a hotel/motel could also be cause for concern, especially in winter weather.
@@b127_1 Would we? Or is it simply that European Tesla w/ CCS owners are wealthy enough to park overnight in garages a majority of the time? I can say for a fact that my CCS EVs' ports would be gummed up debris if they didn't have DC pin covers.
Saw my first Lucid Air in the wild this past Saturday. It was getting a (presumably speeding) ticket from a NY State Trooper on the Taconic State Parkway :-) I thought it might have been you!
The lack of dependability of the current CCS network is horrific. If I'd bought a CCS car instead of a Tesla it would have soured the entire EV experience for me. This is a little unacceptable for a product so expensive.
This is unbelievable. Without Kyle’s contacts, that car would have been towed. Inexcusable. I would never buy a non Tesla because I want the chargers to just work. No messing around.
I’m excited for the true next Gen CCS chargers. Reliability is supposed to be way better and now I hear they can do 800 amps. Now that will max out my Model 3 with a CCS adapter!
Just purchased a GV60 this past month, the nearest EA station has been horrible, 3 out of 4 chargers not working yesterday again, I met folks trying to drive 300-500 away with newer cars (ID4, EV6, Ionia 5). Free charging doesn’t help if you can’t charge at all, a couple was 350 miles away and had 20 miles left, they left to find the nearest EVGO station. What bothered me is EA confirmed station 4 Brixmor North Haven Ct was available, along with others and I had reported the same station 48 hours earlier, after wasting an hour without charging, they confirmed only one station would be available.
I heard the idea of a battery swapping station years ago. Why do they not just make universal battery packs that can be removed and replaced at a station that is always charging and checking health status of battery packs
There’s not enough critical mass of EVs to be profitable. And the manufacturers would have to collaborate to make a standard form factor and connector interface. This would go a long way toward reducing concerns for people about long term battery degradation to swap out your battery a few times on road trips.
There are 3 ways to open chatgeport door. 1. Pres on charge port door with key in close proximity, 2. Press on dash screen far left upper corner, press on the center Ipad device.
I case no one has told you yet, there are two additional way to open the charge port - the charge button on the extreme left of the main screen or pressing your finger on the bottom right of the charge door.
I test drove a couple Lucids this week and fell in love….. BUT I think I’ll wait for 2025 to buy so I can use Tesla superchargers. I’ve just…. Never had an issue on a road trip with over 25,000 miles of driving a Tesla.
I understand but it’s funny charging before off to the hotel. That’s half the adventure finding the right hotel for the overnight charge. I’ve been traveling with my model 3 for the last 4yrs, the EV experiences have made our trips so much fun…. Opening up experience’s we never would have had. My experience with EV’s have confidence me that this is a tech/hardware race. With that said there’s only one company that has the hardware and the tech unrolling quickly……LUCID🔥💪😎 Few can see reality but best to all!!!
About the Clam Shell , I think is for Over 50 y o. Easier to take & put heavy item in the trunk. You don't have to lift their weight as much in a trunk with a regular height in the back wall,.
What about the software to I’m very interested to see if it will show me how much charge I have left where I am going to charge the two or three they expect me to charge at I want to know if it is as good as Tesla. We must be able to map out are charging maps we must and for what they’re asking for that car I expect it to be easy to handle the charging situation when we’re going across country from Sacramento to Sebastian Florida I don’t want any problems finding a charge station
Walmart in mesquite was limited to 65kw out of the 150kw and the same boot screen you shown for days on the other. When I went through on the my way to Page Az. I ended going up the road part Saint George Utah, Port Washington ut (exit qp) to get 164ka working Electrify America Station.
Love the review, well done. Now, considering your issues getting the EV charger to even function, and given that you're one of the most experienced, knowledgeable EV operators in the country and still had major issues-when I get an EV it will be a Tesla, just for a reliable charging network. I've watched your other videos with similar issues-IMO CCS not ready for prime time.
Don't own an electric car and probably won't for awhile as I have a 2021 Honda Passport but man, I find your videos extremely interesting and informative and love the locations you drive to and from. Keep up the great work dude!
Wow Solo drive to Colorado from Cali! Impressive.. The car is awesome crazy... its not lucid. haha. Great Great Great review enjoying your comments on the car.
Great video, I was seriously looking at getting one of these vehicles this video makes it clear that they're not ready yet, I don't understand all the hype? I can't imagine doing an on-road business trip, or trip with my family at about 4 or 500 miles with all the stops and long charges?? Plus this vehicle still needs a lot of updating. also it's amazing how many things you start making the norm trying to accommodate the lacking of the car, under 5% climate control shuts down?! It's a hot summer day in your climates control shuts down because you're under 5% and that's okay? It's a super cold winter day and your heat shuts down?
Enjoying the coverage of the Lucid! Please be careful when someone asks you about the car when they're from other states (Alabama). If you laugh when they tell you where they're from, that laugh with a comment like "I don't think there's going to be many Lucids in Alabama", well it just comes off as snobbish. Also there's one area that reviewers never seem to address which is battery degradation and replacement costs. Although many will never need to replace their battery, it's environmentally responsible to keep a car for a long time (less CO2 to make a new car). That said replacement costs should always be lower on ubiquitous vehicles like Tesla. With high numbers of older Tesla's they will undoubtedly be in higher supply effectively dropping prices especially for used batteries out of wrecked vehicles.
Don't look too close, it will take at least 10 years for something like that to ve even remotely "affordable" I guess a Model 3 LR will be the closest you will get with about 300, 350+ miles for about 45000$
@@marcusbiller867 well that’s ok, planning to try to keep my 2.5 year old M3LR for 8 to 10 years. We will see, haven’t owned a car longer than 3 years. If any car has a chance for me owning it through its 8 year warranty. It’s the 2021 Tesla.
I drive between 200 and 300 miles for work everyday . Depending on traffic and road construction etc . I spend between 7 to 10 hours a day driving just to get to work and back home
I love what Lucid is doing . The car ALMOST looks perfect . My one negative thought is the lack of single tone paint or better options to match the roof and body more to my taste . I know the TWO TONE style they use is PROPER BRITISH UPPER CLASS adopted by Americans but even most brits don't like that style 🤣 Other than that I LOVE ... ABSOLUTELY LOOOOVE THIS CAR . I have been looking at EVs and before the Lucid it was the NIO that I really preferred , styling wise .
So you have just met the para gliders land I was just wondering, about the cost of fuel on the sign in front of you and how much the difference would be to a full tank of either diesel or petrol.
Looks better then tesla love it looks great reminds me of christler 300 mixed with Honda accord good looking ride tesla is cool all the bells and whistles but I like to feel like I'm in a car not a laptop
The Lucid is more money than I’d ever be willing to spend on a car, but it is still a beautiful car. Bugs and issues are to be expected on any vehicle from any start up, but hopefully they’ll be a little faster to resolve them than Tesla (who is still having significant build quality issues on cars that have been in production for 5 years or more). EA has been dreadful for the past few months. I’ve noticed many stations are on “free play” mode and have been for a while, which I have to imagine is because they know that their stations are really bad right now. It’s too bad, because they were doing really well for about 6 months at the end of 2021/beginning of 2022. I’ve had so many activation issues on EA while in free play mode, which my Ioniq5 had no issue with prior to them switching to free play. The manual preconditioning doesn’t bother me, but mainly that’s because my Bolt and Ioniq5 don’t (currently) have preconditioning at all. It would be nice if it would just start preconditioning when the nav shows you will arrive at a charger in 20 minutes, but having the ability to tell it to heat/cool the battery is nice.
I don’t think I explained my driving strategy for testing enough in this video so hope this clarifies:
Strategy 1: Rip it to drain the battery low and try and find a 350kW charger to see big charging speeds
Strategy 2: Normal driving into Grand Junction to simulate how a normal person would cruise with wide open roads
Strategy 3: Gentler cruising over the Rockies getting the highest efficiency of the trip
Thanks for the summary. Your approach is more “real world” and like most people drive , it varies depending on the circumstances like “I’m late!” Or “lets have some fun now!” Etc.
BRAVE guy given record of spinning out expensive car sideways into a curb ripping wheels off. 😄
@@Mrbfgray especially with someone else’s car !
You need to try this thing on autobahn in Germany...
Maybe open windows if you want to lose range?
LOL, just as I typed this comment, you opened the window. :D
We don’t have access to serious EA help. I have been stuck innumerable times trying to get a charge at Electrify America. It actually pushed me away from electric cars for long distance use and as of over 1 year ago I no longer take electric road trips. I’m glad you document the issues, because I have posted about this online and been called a FUD spreader by the Electrify America Stans. I invested almost $100k in a luxury car, had awful charging experiences, and been called a liar for documenting it. So freaking frustrating.
I’m glad I bought a Tesla. Been all over US and Canada using super charger network.
@@shou635 yeah shame they dont have any luxury car
@@xeon2k8🔥🔥🔥
Even though some of these conditions or experiences can be stressful to most of us average people, your humor and demeanor always make for a fair review, a great experience and much less nail biting. Your reviews assist those interested in motoring technology to make an informed purchase or not, or to just learn about the newest technology in cars. Thx! Be safe.
Couldn’t agree more. Kyle is a great ambassador for an emerging market that has its fair share of issues but seeing someone adapt and overcome helps adoption and the future resolution around these issues.
This came at the right time. New road trip videos are one of the best ways to calm myself down and this really helped me out.
It does the same for me.
Kyle: "Little charger, you have no idea what's in store for you."
Little Charger: "Hold my handle!"
Hold my Beer, huh?
Lol
Peter is the absolute man. Out of Spec roadtrips are some of my favorite content on all of TH-cam. Love you guys
This electric shit bores me to death, now i got go out back and crank up my 2 stroke v8.
@@jlo13800 dude is always charging lol
@@KrazyKrzysztof its a 2 stroke
@@KrazyKrzysztof ICE cars will always be faster
2 stroke DFI is on a whole new level.
Yesterday I typed Lucid into my search on TH-cam. Watched 2 of your videos then went for a walk this morning…and I’m staying in Palm Springs! I see the driveway where your trip began (across the street is the home with all the plant canopies). Small world! Thank you for your video. The electrify America network needs some help. I was thinking you were about to be stranded out there. Glad you made it back to Colorado. I’ll be watching more of your videos!
25:35 Honestly, I don't think there's much to optimize with trips in the Lucid. With easily 400 to 450 miles of minimum driving range, most people will just drive it like a gas car. A couple of 10 to 15 minute stops at a convenience store would be more than enough to drive 800+ miles in a day, which is more than most people would ever consider driving. The bigger factor is being able to find and identify faster chargers that are located conveniently for the trip.
That's kind of true. I find my self driving in my ICE 🧊 vehicle around town about the same distance my family and I drive on vacation in a weeks time ⏲️.
1 year of owning an EV is all i could muster. There are so many issues with none working chargers, shitty apps, charging queues and not many DC chargers in general. The insane price of electricity currently did not help, sold it and went back to our diesel machine.
10-15 min stops assuming any of the fast chargers actually work lol. Seems like that should be an easy fix at least.
@@TB-xv7rn While EA's reliability isn't the greatest, it's nowhere near as bad as some claim. The bigger issue is how crowded these sites have become, so even a single charger going down is a much bigger issue. The thing about the Lucid Air is that, even arriving with 10% battery, you could typically make it to another charging site if all of the chargers are down or in use.
yet he had to charge 3 times to go 350 miles. Your argument went out the window lol
The house music is perfect for this! Evey other TH-camr is clueless. Well done!
I couldn’t imagine buying such an expensive car and truly worrying about chargers not working. There are so many great cars out there crippled by terrible charging networks.
Fun video as always.
But realize the issue was with the car, not the charger due to the chargers being set to free.
This is why I can’t go with anything other than Tesla. The ccs network is trash
@@Kr0n1k8 I just rented a Tesla and the assurance of the Tesla charging network helped me with the anxiety of driving from Houston to Natchitoches Louisiana.
Charging in some bad part of town (or Antifa-infested places) wouldn't be great, either. All the wizardry needed to keep these cars moving seems fragile, and officials warn that EVs could be stuck during storm evacuations, etc. with power outages.
@Jordon Manwaring Tesla are nice, but if you see how they are made, they have serious issues!! Just as Ford did when they were new. There is always room for improvement. If Lucid can fix some small issues, it will overtake tesla. BTW, the lucid engineer is the SAME guy WHO designed the Tesla Model S!! Don't underestimate Lucid like people underestimated Tesla in the beginning!
Road tripping in my Air GT I target arriving at under 10% and unplugging at about 50%. Driving at a more modest pace, that gives me an easy two hour driving stint between 10-15 minute stops. I don't bother with preconditioning and, of course, it's easy to charge a little more where chargers are sparse.
When younger I would press on regardless, driving hours on end, but have found that stretching my legs every couple hours keeps my mind in the game on the highway and I arrive at my destination in functional condition. Since I would be stopping anyway, I find the Lucid has usually charged past my target by the time I find the bio-break facilities and buy a drink or whatever.
Travelling in a Lucid today also means allowing a little time to talk to the gawkers.
"My plan has backfired." Words of an honest man. Your review is excellent.
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮ ❤🕊
Dude, he let you drive his car because you're a nice guy and you take care of someone else's stuff. Great review.
Awesome im looking at this exactly 2 years after, love the videos Kyle, keep it up fam!
I can't deal with this type of charging network. I did numerous multi day road trips in a Tesla, and charging has always been great. I would love to see these charging speeds on my car, but not at the cost of stressing every time that the charger will be on the fritz
This is what’s needed imo 450-500 mi range. I loved the Lucid ever since I first saw it. I’m sure they’ll iron out the software issues but overall this car is it! My only gripe is the charging network and the anxieties causes wondering if the charger will work! I was anxious just watching you try to charge!
1:04 Kyle freaks out about charging! The happiness in his voice is priceless. It's like hearing a guy crossing the desert finding water.
Kyle likes his histrionics.... I have yet to meet a DC fast charger that didnt work for me. Not all of them have been a seamless expirience of plug play and go but I have gotten them to work every time with some minor fuss. Of late they have all worked plug and charge with zero hiccups. You simply have to be prepared. Credit card, check, RFID card, check, App, check. Simply the state of charging for now. For me, the initial issues were from Mercedes itself it took them a while to get the car registered into the networks. Again these are teething issues. Which are getting progressively worked out.
It stated on that screen for updates. Car must not be charging while updating. 44:05. WTH?
Beautiful car. Can’t wait to get mines.
Please keep making more Lucid videos. Love to get real feedback.
What's the point of fast charging if it takes an hour+ fumbling to even start charging? Awful. Just awful.
thank you peter! wish he was my friend to! Also liking the solar panels on his garage roof. Hope to run into this peter guy on my trip to Europe
Confirmed for me the charging network still isn’t up to the task. Also, at the Loves stop, I was surprised to see the $38 cost of charging if you were paying for it. Man, what happened to the days of “oh, it costs $8 to full charge?”
A great video! Enjoy videos that give me a more "normal" view of the car. Getting my Touring next month. Did my test drive yesterday. Can't wait.
Really makes me appreciate the simplicity of Tesla.
Tešla is going to be absorbed įn the next few years
@@danrook5757 by whom?
Accurate description... thank you for the video. i am very impressed. Keep it up bro
Thanks again for a other GREAT video! 👍🏽👍🏽
It feels like I'm right there ready to travel the rockies, gj m8, you are a cool guy.
24:05 There is a 350 kW EVgo site in Vegas now, but unfortunately, it's a bit off of I-15.
1:01:21 Sadly, these double activations are probably the #1 issue with Electrify America's reliability. It's connected to everything from FordPass issues to why some people have problems activating the charger with an app after they've plugged in (they don't wait for the handshake to complete). I know a number of your viewers jump on the CCS standard or the public charging infrastructure as a whole for being the culprit, but in my experience, this is all on Electrify America (and partly on the automakers who have attempted ISO plug and charge). As people start to get more experience with faster, non-Electrify America chargers, they might start to change their perceptions a bit.
Reminds me of the 1970s gas crisis. Spending an hour trying to get the gas cap off after standing in a long line realizing that you had to put a locking gas cap on to keep people from stealing gas and not bringing the key. When you finally got the cap off you remember that your license plate has the wrong digit for gas today.
Great road trip Kyle, loved the nod to Spinal Tap “hello Cleveland” moment when they couldn’t find the stage…”this is it, this will be fastest charge ever……oh shit error”. Cool man 👍
Kind of glad I reserved the base RWD Pure Edition cuz it will be ready Q2 2023 and hopefully iron out a lot of these kinks.
20:20: I have a BMW I4, there is usually a curve to the charge on my car. It states I can get 200 kw and I have when it preps, but generally only for about the first minute, then it goes down to 160 or so, till about 40% then it goes to 120, and so on till it levels around 80kW. 29:50 This is what you can expect of Electrify America, (EA) 1/10 th of the time in my experience. Call the 800 number, they may answer in an hour. 59:00 Yep more EA errors. Car may be amazing, EA will throw cold water on that with figuring out plugging in and charging will work. 1:05:10 Nice. My top charge ever has only been DC 186kW for a few seconds.
Went to Electrify America today and had no cell phone service. Couldn't swipe to charge and couldn't call customer service. What a wonderful feeling. Lol
thank god for tesla superchargers
Wow, what a 3rd world country. It's sad and pathetic to have to rely on Tesla superchargers. What a backwards country.
Okay this is the 1st video I've watched, came over after listening to The Smoking Tyre, very impressive amount of information, gorgeous looking car with pretty good range, will be looking out for your next videos, Rj in Oz
This is the best color for me. I am heading to test it next week for the Gand Touring. Great Review
ngl dude the scenary in this video has been amazing
enjoyed the selection of background music for this video
The car looks like a VW Arteon! Thanks for the awesome experience you shard with us!!!!
I had a problem last weekend with an EA - they were all "complimentary", but one stall/unit apparently didn't get the memo, and would fail to start. I had to move over to a different stall to get the charge to start.
I was towing with my Rivian, and the first station was the only one I could park at and reach without disconnecting the trailer. So of course I had to disconnect the trailer to pull into a different stall to charge. But another Rivian pulled up as I was doing it - they had just finished a day of offroading.
Great video Kyle I really enjoy your road trip video keep up the great content 👍
Hy from Romania Europe, my God Awesome Trip and Lucid is the best Cruzer simply Gorgeus Phenomenal Car , Thank you for sharing this Awesome experience and by the way Nice roads you have there and Beutifoul landscapes .
Great road-trip in an amazing car! Your 2nd to last charging experience confirmed everything I've heard and read so far about Charge America. It's hit and miss with this network. Although you were able to resolve the problem, most drivers probably would not have the same outcome. That's why I'm staying with Tesla.
Epic video today man!
18:22 The lack of a DC pin cover is a serious problem. Most likely, Lucid owners will be parking indoors, but not always. L2 charging overnight at a hotel/motel could also be cause for concern, especially in winter weather.
All teslas with CCS have the same 'issue', so if it was a big issue, we'd know by now.
@@b127_1 Would we? Or is it simply that European Tesla w/ CCS owners are wealthy enough to park overnight in garages a majority of the time? I can say for a fact that my CCS EVs' ports would be gummed up debris if they didn't have DC pin covers.
Saw my first Lucid Air in the wild this past Saturday. It was getting a (presumably speeding) ticket from a NY State Trooper on the Taconic State Parkway :-) I thought it might have been you!
Were you in the concrete jungle
Thanks Kyle. Your charging crisis was exciting! Glad okay. You should teach anger management classes on how to remain calm when facing calamity.
The lack of dependability of the current CCS network is horrific. If I'd bought a CCS car instead of a Tesla it would have soured the entire EV experience for me. This is a little unacceptable for a product so expensive.
I'm glad Kyle is around to publicly shame these companies into making their products work as designed. 😂
Have you ordered your CCS adapter yet?
This is unbelievable. Without Kyle’s contacts, that car would have been towed. Inexcusable. I would never buy a non Tesla because I want the chargers to just work. No messing around.
I’m excited for the true next Gen CCS chargers. Reliability is supposed to be way better and now I hear they can do 800 amps.
Now that will max out my Model 3 with a CCS adapter!
Just purchased a GV60 this past month, the nearest EA station has been horrible, 3 out of 4 chargers not working yesterday again, I met folks trying to drive 300-500 away with newer cars (ID4, EV6, Ionia 5). Free charging doesn’t help if you can’t charge at all, a couple was 350 miles away and had 20 miles left, they left to find the nearest EVGO station. What bothered me is EA confirmed station 4 Brixmor North Haven Ct was available, along with others and I had reported the same station 48 hours earlier, after wasting an hour without charging, they confirmed only one station would be available.
Gorgeous 😍 car indeed❗️
I am investing in this LCID stock while it is at a bargain price 😀
thanks for. Sharing your Road trip utah is nice
I wish this had the new 2.0 Software update, just saw it's completely change on another channel. Hopefully it updates while you have this vehicle
Love how the screen moves out of the way love how it's got interior of car
Excellent review & Koolz Soundtracks...🚗🎵🚙
I think I'd watch again just for the soundtrack!
I heard the idea of a battery swapping station years ago. Why do they not just make universal battery packs that can be removed and replaced at a station that is always charging and checking health status of battery packs
Being practical those have been my thoughts too.
Not necessary. Normal people have patience.
There’s not enough critical mass of EVs to be profitable. And the manufacturers would have to collaborate to make a standard form factor and connector interface. This would go a long way toward reducing concerns for people about long term battery degradation to swap out your battery a few times on road trips.
There are 3 ways to open chatgeport door. 1. Pres on charge port door with key in close proximity, 2. Press on dash screen far left upper corner, press on the center Ipad device.
And this is why Tesla’s charging network is king. Also, this video has way to many ads going on.
I case no one has told you yet, there are two additional way to open the charge port - the charge button on the extreme left of the main screen or pressing your finger on the bottom right of the charge door.
Kyle…this is why I’m not switching over. I do NOT have the same connections as you.
I test drove a couple Lucids this week and fell in love…..
BUT
I think I’ll wait for 2025 to buy so I can use Tesla superchargers.
I’ve just…. Never had an issue on a road trip with over 25,000 miles of driving a Tesla.
I understand but it’s funny charging before off to the hotel.
That’s half the adventure finding the right hotel for the overnight charge.
I’ve been traveling with my model 3 for the last 4yrs, the EV experiences have made our trips so much fun…. Opening up experience’s we never would have had.
My experience with EV’s have confidence me that this is a tech/hardware race.
With that said there’s only one company that has the hardware and the tech unrolling quickly……LUCID🔥💪😎
Few can see reality but best to all!!!
A beautiful vehicle for sure.
What a cluster with these EA chargers. Patience is a virtue you have in spades!!! 👍🇺🇸
Faster to hotwire it. 😄
About the Clam Shell , I think is for Over 50 y o.
Easier to take & put heavy item in the trunk.
You don't have to lift their weight as much in a trunk with a regular height in the back wall,.
Which car do you recommend for a new ev to road trip around around the country?
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21:01 Going up the Cajon Pass had to put a serious dent on the range coming out of Palm Springs you're working uphill all the way to Banning
Love your videos. You do all the test driving for us to decided.
What about the software to I’m very interested to see if it will show me how much charge I have left where I am going to charge the two or three they expect me to charge at I want to know if it is as good as Tesla. We must be able to map out are charging maps we must and for what they’re asking for that car I expect it to be easy to handle the charging situation when we’re going across country from Sacramento to Sebastian Florida I don’t want any problems finding a charge station
Fantastic review
Thanks Peter
Walmart in mesquite was limited to 65kw out of the 150kw and the same boot screen you shown for days on the other. When I went through on the my way to Page Az. I ended going up the road part Saint George Utah, Port Washington ut (exit qp) to get 164ka working Electrify America Station.
Love the review, well done. Now, considering your issues getting the EV charger to even function, and given that you're one of the most experienced, knowledgeable EV operators in the country and still had major issues-when I get an EV it will be a Tesla, just for a reliable charging network. I've watched your other videos with similar issues-IMO CCS not ready for prime time.
The Tesla rover
Don't own an electric car and probably won't for awhile as I have a 2021 Honda Passport but man, I find your videos extremely interesting and informative and love the locations you drive to and from. Keep up the great work dude!
Honda pasport is electric?
@@danrook5757 No, it’s clearly not.
Wow Solo drive to Colorado from Cali! Impressive.. The car is awesome crazy... its not lucid. haha. Great Great Great review enjoying your comments on the car.
Tesla is the only way to long trips.
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Am loving the review I can recommend lucid anytime thanks for great review 👍
Great video, I was seriously looking at getting one of these vehicles this video makes it clear that they're not ready yet, I don't understand all the hype? I can't imagine doing an on-road business trip, or trip with my family at about 4 or 500 miles with all the stops and long charges?? Plus this vehicle still needs a lot of updating. also it's amazing how many things you start making the norm trying to accommodate the lacking of the car, under 5% climate control shuts down?! It's a hot summer day in your climates control shuts down because you're under 5% and that's okay? It's a super cold winter day and your heat shuts down?
Enjoying the coverage of the Lucid! Please be careful when someone asks you about the car when they're from other states (Alabama). If you laugh when they tell you where they're from, that laugh with a comment like "I don't think there's going to be many Lucids in Alabama", well it just comes off as snobbish.
Also there's one area that reviewers never seem to address which is battery degradation and replacement costs. Although many will never need to replace their battery, it's environmentally responsible to keep a car for a long time (less CO2 to make a new car). That said replacement costs should always be lower on ubiquitous vehicles like Tesla. With high numbers of older Tesla's they will undoubtedly be in higher supply effectively dropping prices especially for used batteries out of wrecked vehicles.
Great looking car, 450+ miles in EV is awesome. Looking forward to an affordable EV with that range.
Don't look too close, it will take at least 10 years for something like that to ve even remotely "affordable" I guess a Model 3 LR will be the closest you will get with about 300, 350+ miles for about 45000$
@@marcusbiller867 well that’s ok, planning to try to keep my 2.5 year old M3LR for 8 to 10 years. We will see, haven’t owned a car longer than 3 years. If any car has a chance for me owning it through its 8 year warranty. It’s the 2021 Tesla.
Thanks for the review, I just found your channel, I liked and subscribed.
I drive between 200 and 300 miles for work everyday . Depending on traffic and road construction etc . I spend between 7 to 10 hours a day driving just to get to work and back home
Bro WTF do you do for work? That doesn’t even sound reasonable.
A great one man road-trip PG rated movie, so crazy I watched the whole thing I must be an official EV nerd.
We are excited about this car
This is helpful because I’m interested in the 500 Plus mile range
said 500 miles and he couldnt even make it 350 lol
Nice Ultra Kyle 8y... love the car....
I've noticed that the eye monitoring systems often have problems at night when wearing glasses. I use openpilot.
I love what Lucid is doing . The car ALMOST looks perfect . My one negative thought is the lack of single tone paint or better options to match the roof and body more to my taste . I know the TWO TONE style they use is PROPER BRITISH UPPER CLASS adopted by Americans but even most brits don't like that style 🤣
Other than that I LOVE ... ABSOLUTELY LOOOOVE THIS CAR . I have been looking at EVs and before the Lucid it was the NIO that I really preferred , styling wise .
Thank you!!!
So you have just met the para gliders land I was just wondering, about the cost of fuel on the sign in front of you and how much the difference would be to a full tank of either diesel or petrol.
Loved this road trip video. Beautiful car.
This car is amazing!
That's one of the best looking sedans.
Looks better then tesla love it looks great reminds me of christler 300 mixed with Honda accord good looking ride tesla is cool all the bells and whistles but I like to feel like I'm in a car not a laptop
Love the channel. Concerned about your dietary choices though brother.
So like the ix the tail lights go with the tailgate (trunk), can you see the tail lights with the trunk? Is that legal?
The Lucid is more money than I’d ever be willing to spend on a car, but it is still a beautiful car. Bugs and issues are to be expected on any vehicle from any start up, but hopefully they’ll be a little faster to resolve them than Tesla (who is still having significant build quality issues on cars that have been in production for 5 years or more).
EA has been dreadful for the past few months. I’ve noticed many stations are on “free play” mode and have been for a while, which I have to imagine is because they know that their stations are really bad right now. It’s too bad, because they were doing really well for about 6 months at the end of 2021/beginning of 2022. I’ve had so many activation issues on EA while in free play mode, which my Ioniq5 had no issue with prior to them switching to free play.
The manual preconditioning doesn’t bother me, but mainly that’s because my Bolt and Ioniq5 don’t (currently) have preconditioning at all. It would be nice if it would just start preconditioning when the nav shows you will arrive at a charger in 20 minutes, but having the ability to tell it to heat/cool the battery is nice.
Peter is my neighbor and the only other Lucid owner in Palm Springs aside from my husband and me.
Looks sick