Nikolaj Ehlers future with the Winnipeg Jets and potential trades
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- Andrew "Hustler" Paterson is joined by Murat Ates of The Athletic for a discussion on Nikolaj Ehlers future with the Winnipeg Jets and potential trade partners if a deal were to take place. Originally streamed May 18, 2024.
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Intro, Nikolaj Ehlers entering his final year of his contract (0:00)
Performance and role with the Winnipeg Jets (3:13)
What would the Jets want in return? (9:24)
Possible trade partners - Utah (11:50)
Ottawa Senators - Jakob Chychrun (14:55)
Keeping him for next season (17:24)
Buffalo Sabres, Carolina Hurricanes & Detroit Red Wings (19:23)
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You didn't mention Anaheim. They have publicly said their are looking to add a RW. Negotiate a sign and trade w/ extension. The are overflowing with youth and picks
Ehlers is the best player on the team, especially on even strength! The Jets need to extend his contract now, and then put him on top power play and first line, watch him thrive and his contract will look very good!
Keep in mind the Jets PP has struggled a lot and is too sedentary. They need the dynamics of Ehlers to make the PP more versatile and tough to predict, just like other top PP teams move around.
On the other hand, Connor had the worst +/- of the whole team! It was worse than his linemates by far, worse than all 4th liners and fringe players like Stanley and Gus. His blazing speed and elite goal scoring should be trade bait to get some good D back, and the Jets would improve instantly on forward and defence in a single transaction.
Also, extend Monahan and De Melo!
The Jets should resign Nicolai Ehlers to a long-term contract. Never mind trading him. He makes the whole Jets team better. He just needs to play with the right players. Just thinking about traded him is crazy. He is a Jet fan favorite, and always will be.
My fear is his treatment under Bones has already pushed him out the door now in Ehlers mind. Unless he had a GREAT relationship under Arnie, and knew Arnie fought on his behalf with Bones to handle things differently then they were, and knew it was all on Bones...
But hearing Murat talk about his relationship with Scheif leads me to believe Ehlers already knows where the two of them stand, and Scheif is above in the pecking order.
I think Ehlers knows he's gonna have to go somewhere else to be viewed with the respect I think he's earned. As they said to start this whole segment off, Most points per minute played... More then Scheifele, KC, etc etc...
Also, it's REALLY not crazy just because you think he should stay... They should absolutely talk to him about resigning imo, but it's simply a well known fact that entering your final year before UFA status is a case by case situation on if you should trade them, keep them knowing they could be essentially a "one year rental" - who leaves at the end of the season for nothing to FA if a deal cant get done during the year...
Checking the market for what you could get for him ATM, this is being realistic. This is being pragmatic, even if both sides were interested in some kind of extension, which I'm REALLY not sure Ehlers camp would be. I believe Chevy is absolutely, DEPENDING on extension price...
If you DON'T atleast TEST the waters for what a return might look like for a guy entering his final year, before you lose any rights to retain his services... THAT'S just a crazy naive position to hold...
Just assuming you WILL be able to resign the guy... THAT is crazy arrogant and naive...
55-81 stapled to eachother long term sure is depressing. If Ehlers is legitimately moved for picks, it’s gonna be a tough watch next year.
Thanks for the comment. We’ll have to wait and see the return before we judge.
Appleton
best player on the team.
LOL It's time for change. I love him but it's about winning the cup not keeping players that can't perform in the playoffs. He's great, no doubt but jets needs more quality dmen that can move the puck and NOT get hemmed in their zone. Ehlers cannot help out battling on the boards and win pucks. He's too small and coughs up the puck and makes bad decisions in the playoffs. I'm a FAN of the JETS not individual players. I want to see the team win the cup. I want to see Winnipeg's white longer than one round playoffs.
@@areacode911 Kinda clueless eh? Nik is 6'0 180 the avg size in the current NHL. His break out or transition have been a main reason the Jets a team has been able to move the puck out of their own zone. Thats find if you don't like players (or know who is good or not) but your idea of how to move the puck or win puck battles is dated. The current teams in the play offs don't really play in that way, so why should the Jets? Are the Rangers winning puck battles or is Dal .....just clueless fairweather fan
@@scottmcfarlane7524 LOL he’s a great player but NOT a playoff player. Enough said. Cya 27.
@@areacode911We could say that about many team members, including Hellebuyck. Do we trade him too? Trading him would be a mistake.
Regular season? Yes
Around 7:47 mark. Scheifele playing the puck protection mode…in the powerplay too. The reason our powerplay SUCKED ALL YEAR!!
You hit the nail right on the head 55 isn't good on pp
Trade Iafallo for Greenway
Trade Pionk for Radko Gudas
Jets should be open trading Ehlers/Perfetti/Stanley/Pionk/Lucius/Kupari/Gus even younger guys who might not make it Zhilkin,Bauer,Wagner.
If it means upgrading team
It be nice if we could get RFA NHL or almost ready prospects like Byram,Schneider,Jiricek,mateychuk,nemec types.
Or older guys signed Parayko,Provorov,Sanheim,Pulock over Orlov/Chychrun they only have 1yr like ehlers and might not resign.
One trade has been linked here along time Is Necas.
As for backup we should sign because from here and lack of options Reimer/Dreidger.
And I'd rather see Hamonic in bottom 2 dman then Stanley/Pionk/Schmidt.
Oops I meant aleton sry
Ehlers is the Jets’ version of Mitch Marner as they both are physical play adverse and they sucked in the playoffs.
Bones really handled Ehlers and Perfetti in particular so much worse then basically any other player. It was SO noticable... It was bad. KC would do ALL the same things that seemed to really grind Bones gears with Ehlers in particular... It was ridiculous.
And now he's basically pushed him out the door as a result...
Jets need to get rid of Chipman and Hellebuyck. Keep Brossoit and Ehlers.
CHIPMAN OWNS THE TEAM HE'S THE REASON WHY THEY ARE BACK THE JETS
Ehlers got short changed forsure. Hasn't played with a talented centre that can win face offs for puck possession. He doesnt get #1 pp time.
Thanks for the comment. The raw point totals definitely won’t look as good as they could be without the big minutes.
Jets should leave ehlers on team and sign him
Ehlers has an extensive no trade contract. This whole conversation is BS.
Thanks for the comment. He has a 10 team no trade list. There are 32 teams in the league. Not that extensive.
I could be wrong but I read it as they meant a lot of those places mentioned would be on a no trade list. Buffalo, Ottawa, coyotes aren't usually players first choice and pens don't have space unless we are taking that horrible karlsson contract.
Barry Trotz not in the talk for head coach this year just wreaks of Chipman refusing to not meddle.
Barry Trotz is the General Manager of the Nashville Predators.
@@sameold5050I did not know that. Kinda makes my comment moot. 😊
Lambert. Chibrikov. Rutger. All wingers really.
Move out Ehlers. Pionk. Schmidt. Appleton.
Lambert takes Ehlers spot. Chib takes apples spot. Ville takes Dillons spot. Ehlers for top 4 potential D plus pick.
So now instead of Wheeler and Scheifele being toxic in the dressing room, it’s down to Scheifele. Between Chipman and Scheifele I can see this team tanking for the next few years.
Scapegoating Scheifele is getting old
I love eels but hes consistently invisible in the playoffs, he and pionk must go.
His contract is almost over. Of course they have to look at trading him. He's great in certain dimensions, not in others.
Look, I love 27. GREAT SEASON player not a playoff performer. It's time to change the employees and bring in new ones. AVS spanked the Jets all the way to the golf course. So many fans that actually don't understand the game. WATCH how they play, what they're supposed to do. Ehlers drives me crazy with his play. This is about the TEAM and winning the cup playing the RIGHT way.
The moment he was put together with Scheif and Vilardi, they looked great again. The second line got outplayed constantly and was too focused on defense
It seems Hellebuyck isn’t a “playoff” player either. I guess we should give him away too.
@@ronnie5329 LOL focussed on defense???? Wow.
@@areacode911 they hardly attacked, the defensive structure didnt work, but the team were afraid to attack. It was silly
@@ronnie5329 LOL afraid to attack? You make me laugh. I'll pretend I didn't just read what you just typed.
Wpgjets Allways trade dynamic players for non talented coal shoveller type players sad?
Just Stop please.
I wouldn't be sad if we trade him, love Niky but he's a liability in the playoffs.
Trade conner, pionk l, stanley and Stapleton, conner is soft and sure he scores but you can always find a goals scorer
Which Stapleton ?
Tim Stapleton?
Hasn't played in the NHL in over 10 years.
Trade Ehlers for Tom Wilson
I think it really needs to be pointed out. Nik Ehlers is a victim of hockey culture. Just listen to how often, players, coaches, announcers and others talk about "playing the right way". Implying there's one right way, and all the rest are wrong. Very black and white. Very conservative thinking. There's 32 teams in the NHL, sure some of them may play similar systems, but there should be at least 32 different ways to play hockey. This "right way to play" narrative needs to stop.
Ehlers is overrated. He doesn’t produce on the power play and playoffs. His unpredictable play is very concerning