It is why in Ukraine we fight so hard today (ignore the user name; I am Ukrainian but earn my living working for Chinese clients). Most folks I know who are ethnic Ukrainians do not care for our politicians; they have no interest in liberal globalism or any of that nonsense. But Russian rule...we know what that means. And they use the Buryats, Pechenegs, Matsi and other such troops today for the same reason they did in 1945....
People have to make a living, you know. Maybe you live on welfare or in your mom's basement, but those aren't options for everyone. @@eremiasranwolf3513
@@WangMingGe Oh for God's sake lmao, drop the play. There are no hardships under modern Russian occupation. "We are not interested in globalism" - yet you are selling your country to globalism, just to avoid the big scary boohoo Russia
Not from my family's part of the country they didn't. We were on the German side in WW2, and the Austro-Hungarian side in WW1. Never Russian. We fought against Russia even in the Napoleonic wars. Seems like you are the one who is ignorant of eastern european history. @@test-ot1fz
Yeah but at least we aren’t speaking German. But in all seriousness my great grandfather had to hide my grandmother under the floorboards after the Soviet occupation to avoid her being brutalized. I feel this personally
I've heard from my great-grandfather that they were begged by polish women not to retreat or at least take their children with them. He told me that many jumped into wells, or threw their babies down there and slit their wrists afterwards. The fear of the soviet horde was mind-boggling. In the end he managed to rescue just over 30 civilians (german and polish) on his torpedoboat and bring them to Kiel. From there, he said that most of them continued to flee westwards.
Considering the stories I’ve heard about my grandmother and great grandmother experiencing the Soviets in Poland….. ye I can also sympathize with it as well.
@@johanlaidoner122 you're lucky then. Where do you live? Here in America we only learn about the Holocaust and not a single allied war crime except for the nukes.
@@johanlaidoner122 I know a few Estonians who don't like Russia and they say the government is also very anti-Russia for many reasons, so it would make sense for an anti-Russia government to educate its citizens about the bad things Russia has done. In America, they don't talk about it partly because it would make people sympathize with the Germans.
Why does nobody talk about this? Even in german schools they barely teach you anything about those atrocities. Sure they talk about people fleeing and bombings of cities like Dresden but nobody talks about these crimes.
Nazi propaganda demonized Soviet soldiers to encourage resistance, and the image of an innocent girl brutalized by a beast-like enemy ("asiatic hordes") was one of the most commonly used.
These atrocities could be "justified" for what the Germans did to the eastern european civilian population. Also, it could be used to make an excuse for the Nazi government and that ideology in total. I really dont know but I think it would come down to those 2 arguments.
Just found this channel and I can’t stop watching, YOU deserve wayyy more viewers! The fact these videos have under a million views is a sin for the quality and information! The only thing I would like is if you could link some of your sources in the comments for people who want to do a deeper dive into the subject! Keep it up regardless!
@@ZoomerHistorian nice cope but the algorithm exist it shadow ban both the radical left and right. Capitalism defend it interest. Try to grow on this platform is impossible
Somehow the audio at the start went super quiet, it's fine later though. The audio nightmare continues. Will sit down this weekend and actually finally fix this once and for all hopefully !!
Do you intend to also cover Allied crimes? I keep coming across horror stories about colonial troops, be they french british or spanish, and US behavior in Italy for example.
It’s quite evident why the actions committed by the allies had to be buried in propaganda and denial, so that such atrocities and acts of evil could be rationalised in the civilian mind as justified. Thanks for another video.
It's odd that the Soviet ones aren't brought up as much though, given the next almost 50 years were spent with the Allies fighting a propaganda war against them, very strange. Thanks a lot for the kind words!
@@ZoomerHistorian "It's odd that the Soviet ones aren't brought up as much though..." Most of what had happened was only known in the East. Especially the GDR and other communist countries allowed only pro USSR propaganda, of course, and helped a lot to cover it up. Widely known beyond rumours were only a few events like the Katyn massacre, which had already been discovered and exposed by the Germans in 1943.
My teachers great grandma who lived in Berlin at the time told a history to us that was (INSANE) she also told that her sister who was 16 got r🅰️ped 14 times and then she was found h🅰️nged in wardrobe
I am obsessed with your channel. Found it yesterday and I keep watching video after video. Would give you a bro hug if I could for putting so much effort into these topics and dancing on the edge of TH-cam censorship policies. Really, fantastic work. I hope that your channel grows and that more people can see and hear history from a different and far more objective perspective. Bravo
If you compare the hordes of people from the third world flooding Europe and North America today it’s only a matter of time until some of our friends from the tribe rally up the same ideas they did then and our women meet the same fate. I’m still more shocked and sickened some want to embrace that fate.
Well basically every german men was in the wehrmacht, so every men had a weapon and it wasnt enough. Just owning weapons isnt going to save you from a superior force.
@@ZoomerHistorian Not all of it was completely true, but cruelties like that or even worse actually happened probably in a thousand other places back then, so it was sort of true, from a certain point of view. Nemmersdorf was fake news though. There was a massacre, but it was only about 30 civilians in this case and all of them had probably been shot. There was apparently at least one case of R*, but Goebbels and his team altered and misrepresented the evidence for propaganda and made it look even worse than it was. They did the same with the bombing of Dresden, by the way. The official number of people actually killed was around 25k, which is already terrible enough, but not over 100k as it was claimed. The harder stuff about Nemmersdorf, like naked women nailed to barns, has never happened, at least not there. It was apparently from just rumours or imagination only after the war. If you thought this was already vile or barbaric, you should check out what alone a few hundred men of the Dirlewanger Brigade had done to ten thousands before. Ever heard of units like that? Just imagine that even the SS was disgusted by their cruelties.
@@reinercelsus8299 You need to do better research, there are primary documents showing the Dresden kill count being at least 130k. The figures are down played to make the victors look better.
@@rhysnichols8608 I'm German and I have already done better research. The kill count was around 25k, as also confirmed by the official reports and later research done by german historians. The figures had been exaggerated to even far over 200k at one point to make the allies look worse.
The differences between the front line Red Army and the auxiliaries that would go on to replace them remind me of Peter Kemp's account in _No Colors or Crest_ . To garrison such vile, immoral people in such close proximity to civilians is akin to committing the same crimes they committed.
@@ZoomerHistorian The part I was talking about involved the billeting of Mongolian troops with Polish civilians. Even when staying with non-German civilians, they would act in an uncivilized manner.
@@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497 It’s truly intriguing to see how humans act when brought up with very different moral principles. What they did would be seen as absolutely disgusting by western civilisation, but to Mongolians it’s more normalised. They’re the enemy, so who cares, type of mindset.
@@New_frisk because he didn't have authority or even ability to act on it. He was forced to apologise for his words and he just said it again. After that he unsurprisingly got killed in car accident
Thank you for this video and for shedding light on this terrible topic! I’m currently also reading Graf Lehndorffs „Eastern Prussian Diary 1945-1947“. This is really tough stuff to read. My grandmother and her family were really lucky to catch one of the latest trains out of Breslau. They did no have to go on foot or by horse carts like so many others. She also witnessed several bombing raids and strafing runs on clearly civilian targets.
What a story! Appreciate the kind words, I’ll be covering more of the escape/expulsions from Eastern Germany in a month maybe, just needed a break from that depressing topic (can only read so many accounts of rape and brutal murder before my brain says no more)
As a romanian, I have heard horrible stories from my grandparents about the way the Red Army behaved after they've invaded and occupied Romania! My grandparents on my father's side were ethnic russians but they were not given special treatment , on the contrary!
This didnt happen just to Germans, this happened to anybody in the way of the Red Army as the Asiatic and criminal division obviously didnt care if you were German, Polish, Lithuanian, Ukrainian or even Russian. You can find examples of this in notes written by Polish or Lithuanian police units formed after operation Bagration who witnessed and tried to combat such actions.
Really?, and the Germans were saints in their way during Barbarossa?, what happened to the civilian Germans was the result of what the Germans did to the Soviets!
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn The Soviets were brought that upon themselves. Remember whom they've been allied with or even more assisted between 1939-41? Yes, the very same THIRD REICH!
@@felippe_818 If Stalin would have said "F*ck off" to Hitler back in 1939 the Nazis WOULDN'T BEEN ABLE TO START the war in the first place. So your point about it doesn't mean anything proven to be false. As for the 1 million Soviet soldiers, we saw how they ended up during the war with Finland during the following winter. Numbers doesn't always matter.
As sickening as all of this is - what is sickening too is that post-war Germany did not remember and honour all these lost lives; the same goes for the millions of German soldiers. Whether they were Nazis or not, it should be normal to mourn our grandmothers and -fathers. This has never been encouraged in Germany, never has been spoken of at school. That's just not normal and it is a burden we Germans are still carrying although born much later. Actually we are unknowingly carrying a burden of unwept tears. I discovered this channel only a week ago and I am impressed by the quality of your work. You are only stating the facts but that's enough....those who want the truth find it here - thank you for that.
Je weiter wir von der Zeit des 2.WK entfernt sind, desto scheußlicher werden die Lügen über die Wehrmacht und die SS. In Büchern oder Filmen der 50er/60er ist die Wehrmacht meist als völlig normale Armee dargestellt, teilweise auch die SS. Und heutzutage wird kaum noch einer der Veteranen interviewt, wobei wir noch ein paar tausende haben. Währenddessen diejenigen mit der Krummnase weiterhin zu Schulen und so weiter eingeladen werden.
@@theoderich1168 I know history and I have nothing against Germans. Germans who committed terrible deeds in Soviet Union (15 millions civilians at least) are guilty and other Germans are not. Their crimes were proofed and the Nazis were tried and found guilty. Red Army - was not. Why? Cause there is not a single reliable source if such information. And this fairytales were made up by Goebbels himself. This dude just collect this nonsense for views and for making money but not for "truth".
@@theoderich1168 Germany declared war on Poland, knowing both France and the UK had quaranteed it. They also invaded Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia, Greece, and the USSR. What do I not know about history?
Considering almost half of the American population is of german ancestry,it is a bit weird how America helped to brutally destroy germany twice,and to help the same colonial power that it freed itself from in 1776…America’s ingenuity and industrial might was used to massacre the same people most Americans descent from.Just as General Patton said “we fought the wrong enemy”.
What’s shocking to me is that it took a legion of convicts and mental patients (the Dirlewanger Brigade) to commit acts that seemingly came naturally to the Russians and the Japanese. You rightfully hear plenty about Dirlewanger, but nothing about the plight of the average German. Sickening stuff.
No matter how many times I hear it, it's always horrifying what the invading armies engaged in. The worst and most depraved actions of the Dirlewanger Brigade were the standard for the red army, and we willingly signed over half of Europe to them
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cnBecause we already know what they did? The Allies made sure to make sure EVERYBODY knew what they did. That’s the whole point of this video… 😂🤦♂️, how nobody ever mentions what the allies had to do to win this war.
@@cashcalum3140 Well the Allies did not suffer what the Soviets suffered at the hands of the Germans, so the Allies and every last scumbag these days talking trash about the Soviets and what they did to the German civilians they shall shut up and try to endured what the Soviets endured at the hands of the Germans. If I am down and my enemy is on top inflicting pain on me, nobody can talk trash about me when I am on top and have my enemy down and I am inflicting pain on my enemy so you people better shut up!... the Soviets did what they had to do to get even!
@@felippe_818the US absolutely targeted those of Japanese decent here in the states and many had lost everything they owned when thrown in the internment camps. Plenty has also been written about the open air pow camps that the Allies ran in Europe. No one was a saint in ww2
@@scoopidywhoop7484 neither me to you. Your ancestors murdered mine. How does it feels when you're the baddies here? How the Soviet treats the German is exactly how these Germans will treat them, AND YOU. All of us are evil.
I remember hearing somewhere about the Soviet soldiers who marched in first much of the time saying to the civilians basically get the hell out of here now because the dudes coming in behind us are basically animals. I have no idea how true that is but found it to be interesting
I have a grand-aunt that was a part of the East Prussian exodus, she lost her husband in the exodus and I deeply regret never recording her stories. Her children and grand-children are still alive, maybe I should ask them to write down whatever stories their mother told them.
The Soviet Union gave birth to ideologies that promoted genital mutilation and sterlization of our young people in America today What a deranged comment
My mother survived the war in Budapest. She said that Stalin made two mistakes during the war. He showed the Russians the world and the world the Russians.
@@f.n8581Literally nothing but the Romanians remembered what the Soviet Russians did to Europe after ww1, Multiple communist uprisings and financed wars with crimes like the Spanish civil war, you defend Russia when everyone hates it for what it was done prior to ww2. 😂
This channel is incredible. It completely turned what I thought WWII into something else. I always wondered what Patton was talking about with the wrong side. Now it total sense.
The most valuable thing I find about this series is getting a sense of the position individuals found themselves in and how they chose to act. It is a great series. Many of the premises or assumptions need to be tested though, I would not take this account to be fact but still the detail is insightful about how some, "good" or "evil", think.
The Japanese actually thought that during the occupation that the Americans would plunder and have their way with women, so that the Japanese even set up brothels. But then that never happened, and the occupying authority shut down the brothels. General MacArthur even became loved by the Japanese.
The occupation was far from sunshine and roses but it was orderly. Which the Japanese appreciated to an extent, understanding that they were still occupied.
@@frolicsomgaietyI’m assuming he’s just trying to say that if the Japanese were christianized (which was a real possibility at a period by the Iberians and without colonial occupation) they wouldn’t treat civilians and especially women. Which doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with being ruled by the west
This is well done. For those interested there is a documentary called Hellstorm that covers this but this is a great shorter video that covers some of the atrocities
I wanted to also recommend The Wolf Children of the Eastern Front - a book that was recently published in English about thousands of kids who became parentless in Eastern Prussia due to barbaric soviet actions and had to flee to Lithuanian forests in the winter without nothing - they spent their youth wandering around and begging without anything left in their lives. Those who survived, at least.
Hi @ZoomerHistorian, I don't know if you're reading this, I am Romanian and unfortunately we experienced this first-hand. On the other hand I recall my grandfather stories about the German soldiers giving chocolate and their food rations to children in the poor villages in Romania.. maybe it helps to know that we remember this :)
Thank you for bringing this to light. To be honest, I probably won't watch the next installment on this topic (I've known about many of these details for several years and it has put me into a serious depressed state in the past.) Unfortunately, it is very hard to get people to seem to care an iota. But, thank you for your efforts. God bless you and your work.
It probably doesn't exist in any language other than german(feel free to search it, maybe it does exist in english) but there is a book about the east prussian wolfs children who lived|SURVIVED the hell of hunger in Königsberg in the years of 1944 to 1950 called "Das Wolfsmädchen- Flucht aus der Königsberger Hungerhölle 1946". The only book that EVER made me genuinely tear up. People have NO IDEA about the sheer extent those euphemistically called "expulsions"
I am glad you talked about this brutal and often forgotten topic by many school books. What is even more disgusting is that there are literally internet communists which actually justify these sick atrocities in the comment section.
Tankies never change. They cry about mistreatment against communists but come up with every excuse to justify communist excesses. Having said that, the Germans did some unspeakable things to many nations and groups during ww2, it's just that the Soviets were worse. There's a video testimony from a former soviet officer on TH-cam... What he describes is worse than your worst nightmare.
While these events are abhorrent and it makes me sick they got off Scott free, we have to remember history doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Undoubtedly many soviet civilians suffered atrocities at the hands of the axis, anti partisan warfare was grim, it was common for a village to be torched and men executed and women sent to labour camps, so to some extent the rage of the soviet troops is understandable. If my wife and kids had been executed by the ss I’d have little remorse when the tables turned. However equally much of the axis violence was itself a response to years of soviet oppression and atrocities in Eastern Europe. Stalin’s regime killed millions way before the war even started, and the west backed that regime at a time when it had a kill count of around 10 million, and the axis kill count was in the thousands. What I’m trying to say is context is important but all things considered the soviets kinda had it coming, and the double standards also are ridiculous.
I don’t disagree at all, I can sometimes sound like im excusing German actions by covering the other side but that isn’t my intention, I’ll be sure to put things in context more and I’ll make the inverse of this video one day when I can find good sources. ‘How did the Germans treat Soviet civilians’
@@ZoomerHistorian The thing is a lot of German actions in the east are exaggerated, misrepresented or some are even made up completely. Whereas the allied side atrocities are hardly talked about, leaving a very misunderstood view of things. Perhaps you should make a video about the soviet occupation of east Europe in 1940 and the crimes they committed, and then how this lead to reprisals during Barbarossa.
Oh, you can't say that here, because the Nazis and their allies didn't commit crimes, but "liberated" the Russians, of course from life and territory. That's why they emphasize here that the Russian land belongs to others.
I knew an Estonian woman who came to Britain in 1945. She said the Estonians regarded the Germans as saviours when they arrived but they hated the Soviets
Obviously very dark subject matter like, but it's important people know the truth. Excellent video again mate. I've also just noticed you've already made the "books" video I asked about last week. I'll stop asking you to make videos you've already made now 🙈😂 As you are clearly all over this. Again, excellent work pal. Topman.
Soviets used a two tiered military. They used soldiers from their Far East as shock troops first, then more European units moved in after the battles. The more primitive troops were adept at brutality constant with their native cultures devoid of any western Judeo Christian values. Stalin appreciated the cultural differences of his empire and used them to his advantage. Something that’s presently being done now with illegal migrants, but in a soft power model. Europe, the UK, America, eventually suffering the same fate. Welcome to the realization how real power works.
@@carlrichieukmusic Tik is a smart guy, and an extremely hard worker. I think he misses some obvious truths and comes to insane conclusions sometimes but he definitely warrants the name of historian and I greatly respect him
@@franciscoaraujo2016 Do you have an opinion on that? Poland was run by a military Junta at the time. Ethnically cleansing minority German, jews, and Russian citizens. Using the threat of the Red menace to blackmail Germany to give up more territory as well. Are those the Slavs or are you talking about the Ukrainian and Baltic Slavs that joined the great crusade against the Bolshevik menace?
@@EJisArete You are so lost in the Nazl propaganda, really sad You have no salvation Yes, Józef Piłsudski's Poland was also fasclst and does this justify what the Germans did there, ghettos, concentratlon camps, forced Germanization, kidnapping of children? While the German invasion of Poland was a plan for Lebensraum, exterminatlon, segregatlon, annihilatlon of civilians and culture, the Soviet invasion of Poland was to obtain a strategic position to stop the Nazl advance in Europe, which they achieved defeating them
@@EJisArete You are so lost in the Nazl propaganda, really sad You have no salvation Yes, Józef Piłsudski's Poland was also fasclst and does this justify what the Germans did there, ghettos, concentratlon camps, forced Germanization, kidnapping of children? While the German invasion of Poland was a plan for Lebensraum, killing of civilians and culture, the Soviet invasion of Poland was to obtain a strategic position to stop the Nazl advance in Europe, which they achieved defeating them
I, as a german who is aware of what happend sadly can't watch this video because it is too much for me to comprehend mentally. Never in my life was I so angry and sad and in general emotional just because watching a video on a historical topic. I once saw a video, a few years ago with interviews about the soviets going into germany and their crimes, mostly on children and teenage girls. Since then I still can not get these stories out of my mind.
Yeah you can see it. Their world was being destroyed in insane dysfunctional madness and their society was being attacked by true monsters, and they have this built in highly profound urge and you are all in the same boat, waiting. These hideous aggressors are still the same.
Also have testimony from fleeing ostdeutsch that British planes straffed and killed civilians in Austria. Also that American B lacks were d runk and unruly, shooting in the air.
For any one looking for more information on this topic I would recommend the book "Hellstorm: The Death Of Nazi Germany". Not gonna lie it's a tough read. I had to take many breaks reading the horrors perpetrated on specifically the young women of Germany and read some of the stories mentioned in this video but it incorporated a ton of first hand accounts of the end of the war from the average German.
I couldn't finish the video. I had read a book by an eastern front German were he described such things. It's just too horrible to comprehend such monsters existed.
The RAF bombed one of these “ rescue ships on the same route in the same period with the loss of around 6000 souls , ( there were others sunk ) not only civilians on board but German soldiers too
Zoomer Historian, I’ve always wondered how German civilians were treated in East Germany or how they remembered these atrocities committed by the Soviets during WW2. I find your content fascinating and would love to see this immediate aftermath of WW2.
Europe would be better off today if Germany won. My respect for the Russian people took a serious nosedive after watching this video. Absolutely sickening. I don’t advocate for people being held accountable for the actions of their ancestors, but these acts were absolutely beyond the pale for a modern nation to commit
No Germany nor USSR should win the war. They both should were stopped by any means necessary earlier. Remilitarization of the Rhineland, Munich Agreement, Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact. Nations of Central-East Europe warned that Moscow and Berlin were ruled by neobarbarians.
@@timmorin6657communist are 1st and foremost, traitors to there own people. In literally every communist country, they pursued policies to eradicate the local culture and especially religion. However every human has a inate bias towards their own kind even “post racial communist”. If they can treat there own people so horribly it really ain’t a surprise that they can be so callous against foreign people
Ya even though the Germans massacred at least 10 times more civilians in the USSR but let’s cry about it only when Germans are the ones dying what goes around comes around and Germany got what was coming to them
If Nazi-Germany had won, another 6 mln Jews would have been killed. Wanting that, makes you an antisemite. Furthermore some 40 mln Slavs would have been killed, with more to come. Furthermore the religions would have been crushed, and culture, and the last vestiges of freedom.
A had a German neighborhood a kid, Rosie. She was a really sweet old lady. She told me stories about hiding from the soviets at the end of the war. She was like 17 when it ended.
I find the saying that the victors write history is very true especially with the way how every possible German war crime is 10x amplified and yet most Crimes by the allies/soviet is seen as needed to „crush the German morale“ Its so bizarre a great example is Dresden a city turned to ash just because it was a “a Justified target“ it’s still just bad shit insane to me
@@JohnBambooO, it's a simple grammar mistake don't mind it. And no, you are wrong. Saying "Raping or killing civilians was forbidden by death in the German Wehrmacht" is as true as to say they didn't kill jews or communists. There was no punishment by death for this. In fact it was quite the opposite. There was Barbarossa decree in Wehrmacht signed by Keitel the chief of the OKW. In this decree there is a specific paragraph: "German soldiers who commit crimes against humanity, the USSR and prisoners of war are to be exempted from criminal responsibility, even if they commit acts punishable according to German law." They didn't punish wehrmacht soldiers they decriminalized the crimes.
@@faunt07 so? Didn't say it didn't happen but if U experienced the whole history Germany never started those horrific crimes against humanity and the holocaust which happened against the Germans still get justified with lies. Sickening It's absolutely obvious the same people still rule this world. They were just affraid the German concept will sprout. These days Germany is a puppet state of the American sub state trying to get rid of the last Germans. Sickening too
I grew up in California but my dad was a participant in the Battle of Berlin when he was 17. He also spent two years in anti-aircraft unit as part of his "high school" experience. His mom was Polish and both parents where originally from Posen. HIs dad died in the German Army and he would sink into a depressed state if I pressed too hard on WW2 but I got the story over time. We did move to West Berlin for a year when I was young. We also travelled through East Germany and Poland...the area where they used to spend their summers when it was part of Germany, for my dad it represented better times. It was of course, a total sh*t show at this time, early 1981. When I asked my dad where all the Germans were he so they where all killed, streets names changed, now it is all Polish and stuck with Communism. Given the conditions my dad was upset more for the Poles than anyone else since here they where ALL occupied. I was learning a bunch of dark historical things at 11-12 years old when up to that point my worldview was more just Puka shells, OP shorts, skateboards, AC/DC, and the only thing I knew about WW2 was Hogans Heroes.
I as an Arab, I sympathize with the German civilians in the same manner as one would sympathize with the Palestinian Arabs in relation to the Zionists...
Many ask why the Germans fought up until the bitter end…this is exactly why
It is why in Ukraine we fight so hard today (ignore the user name; I am Ukrainian but earn my living working for Chinese clients). Most folks I know who are ethnic Ukrainians do not care for our politicians; they have no interest in liberal globalism or any of that nonsense. But Russian rule...we know what that means. And they use the Buryats, Pechenegs, Matsi and other such troops today for the same reason they did in 1945....
People have to make a living, you know. Maybe you live on welfare or in your mom's basement, but those aren't options for everyone. @@eremiasranwolf3513
@@WangMingGe
Oh for God's sake lmao, drop the play.
There are no hardships under modern Russian occupation.
"We are not interested in globalism" - yet you are selling your country to globalism, just to avoid the big scary boohoo Russia
@@WangMingGe this comment is so ignorant
Wait until you realise that the soviet union had millions of Ukrainians in the army
Not from my family's part of the country they didn't. We were on the German side in WW2, and the Austro-Hungarian side in WW1. Never Russian. We fought against Russia even in the Napoleonic wars. Seems like you are the one who is ignorant of eastern european history. @@test-ot1fz
Yeah but at least we aren’t speaking German. But in all seriousness my great grandfather had to hide my grandmother under the floorboards after the Soviet occupation to avoid her being brutalized. I feel this personally
I as well
I've heard from my great-grandfather that they were begged by polish women not to retreat or at least take their children with them.
He told me that many jumped into wells, or threw their babies down there and slit their wrists afterwards. The fear of the soviet horde was mind-boggling.
In the end he managed to rescue just over 30 civilians (german and polish) on his torpedoboat and bring them to Kiel.
From there, he said that most of them continued to flee westwards.
Considering the stories I’ve heard about my grandmother and great grandmother experiencing the Soviets in Poland….. ye I can also sympathize with it as well.
Actually, Germans are speaking English now, because of the internet and the US dominating media and entertainment.
@@skdKitsune incredible propaganda! Your nazi ancestor would be proud of you!
Strange how there's no Hollywood movies about this?
Very odd!
We all know who 'owns' Hollywood!! Need I say more?
@@tancreddehauteville764
Uhm sweety, studies show that white men own Hollywood
Yeah, I often wonder why Spielberg, Weinstein, Goldwyn, and that tribe, don't make movies about the evils of Communism.
Exactly. The same as are indiscriminately bombing civilians in Gaza now.@@tancreddehauteville764
Remember folks "Russia is our ally" was on posters around the US for years before the start of the cold war.
Yes AND ?!
Good ol "uncle Joe!'
Do you believe the government?
how did the posters say that when russia didnt exist then
how did the posters say that when russia didnt exist then
Insane how you never hear about this in school on anywhere. But insted hear how horrific the Germans were.
Yep, had to justify our actions afterwards! Horrible, unspeakable acts.
@@johanlaidoner122 you're lucky then. Where do you live? Here in America we only learn about the Holocaust and not a single allied war crime except for the nukes.
@@johanlaidoner122 Ah, that makes sense.
@@johanlaidoner122 I know a few Estonians who don't like Russia and they say the government is also very anti-Russia for many reasons, so it would make sense for an anti-Russia government to educate its citizens about the bad things Russia has done. In America, they don't talk about it partly because it would make people sympathize with the Germans.
@@OswaldM_14the Nukes weren’t war crimes and mostly war crimes of any nation are not covered not even Japan’s
Why does nobody talk about this? Even in german schools they barely teach you anything about those atrocities. Sure they talk about people fleeing and bombings of cities like Dresden but nobody talks about these crimes.
Everybody just talks about the soviets being "liberators" who saved the german people... it´s ridiculous how far this is from the truth.
Germany is still not a sovereign nation
It damages the efforts of the propaganda.
Nazi propaganda demonized Soviet soldiers to encourage resistance, and the image of an innocent girl brutalized by a beast-like enemy ("asiatic hordes") was one of the most commonly used.
These atrocities could be "justified" for what the Germans did to the eastern european civilian population. Also, it could be used to make an excuse for the Nazi government and that ideology in total. I really dont know but I think it would come down to those 2 arguments.
Just found this channel and I can’t stop watching, YOU deserve wayyy more viewers! The fact these videos have under a million views is a sin for the quality and information! The only thing I would like is if you could link some of your sources in the comments for people who want to do a deeper dive into the subject! Keep it up regardless!
Thank you very much for the lovely comment! Ok sure, I can do that in future. How did you find the channel?
It got shadow ban you know
@@ZoomerHistorian nice cope but the algorithm exist it shadow ban both the radical left and right. Capitalism defend it interest. Try to grow on this platform is impossible
@@ZoomerHistorian Glad you decided to take the channel in a different direction
quality of information? Kek he got proven wrong plenty of times.
Somehow the audio at the start went super quiet, it's fine later though. The audio nightmare continues. Will sit down this weekend and actually finally fix this once and for all hopefully !!
The first USSR government were 85% Jewish, funny no one mentions this in regard to the Holodomore ect , the Jews hate European Christians.
Do you intend to also cover Allied crimes? I keep coming across horror stories about colonial troops, be they french british or spanish, and US behavior in Italy for example.
Did you ever read anything about what the Germans did to the Soviets during Barbarossa?
great channel, how do i donate? are you a Fuentes fan?
@@jamesg-ep8el There’s links in the description
Europa the last battle is a must watch
Germans overran much of Russia but.did not control every square inch Many Russians never even saw a German
It’s quite evident why the actions committed by the allies had to be buried in propaganda and denial, so that such atrocities and acts of evil could be rationalised in the civilian mind as justified.
Thanks for another video.
It's odd that the Soviet ones aren't brought up as much though, given the next almost 50 years were spent with the Allies fighting a propaganda war against them, very strange. Thanks a lot for the kind words!
@@ZoomerHistorian jews needed to keep the hate on the national socialists and not the communists
That’s not accurate though because America was essentially an anti-communist propaganda factory until the 90’s
@@ZoomerHistorian "It's odd that the Soviet ones aren't brought up as much though..."
Most of what had happened was only known in the East. Especially the GDR and other communist countries allowed only pro USSR propaganda, of course, and helped a lot to cover it up. Widely known beyond rumours were only a few events like the Katyn massacre, which had already been discovered and exposed by the Germans in 1943.
@@ZoomerHistorian Capitalism and Communism are different sides of the same coin. Or so I have heard it put.
“Pure Evil” is too nice of a phrase to describe this.
Yes poor nazls
Omg so sad 😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂
My teachers great grandma who lived in Berlin at the time told a history to us that was (INSANE) she also told that her sister who was 16 got r🅰️ped 14 times and then she was found h🅰️nged in wardrobe
BASED
I am obsessed with your channel. Found it yesterday and I keep watching video after video. Would give you a bro hug if I could for putting so much effort into these topics and dancing on the edge of TH-cam censorship policies. Really, fantastic work. I hope that your channel grows and that more people can see and hear history from a different and far more objective perspective. Bravo
What a lovely message, thanks very much mate ❤️
If you compare the hordes of people from the third world flooding Europe and North America today it’s only a matter of time until some of our friends from the tribe rally up the same ideas they did then and our women meet the same fate. I’m still more shocked and sickened some want to embrace that fate.
opposing mass immigration from the third world to first world shitholes is jewish, not the other way around
Its already happening, 98% of group rap*s in Germany are caused by immigrants nowadays
So when you all gonna do something about it? Seems a little late. Must not care about "your people" too much. Kinda weak
@@AZTLANSOLDIER13 it becomes incredibly difficult when the leaders of "our people" are working to make the problem worse. opening the floodgates
Womp womp
This is why owning weapons is necessary. Protect those you love.
Well basically every german men was in the wehrmacht, so every men had a weapon and it wasnt enough. Just owning weapons isnt going to save you from a superior force.
That's why high school shootings happen so often in the US. To protect the people they love.
Also you were going to defeat the soviet army? 😂 😂 😂
@@NeiyMaritz explosives panic rooms.. only the rich will be avoided and even they will be overan history repeats itself.
How are Jews defending themselves, throwing heather o’rourke to spielberg?
@@NeiyMaritz Certainly no reason to make it any easier for them
What the Asiatic & criminal divisions did, I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. May they rot.
An unspeakable crime, the stuff I had to leave out of this video was even worse
@@ZoomerHistorian Not all of it was completely true, but cruelties like that or even worse actually happened probably in a thousand other places back then, so it was sort of true, from a certain point of view. Nemmersdorf was fake news though. There was a massacre, but it was only about 30 civilians in this case and all of them had probably been shot. There was apparently at least one case of R*, but Goebbels and his team altered and misrepresented the evidence for propaganda and made it look even worse than it was. They did the same with the bombing of Dresden, by the way. The official number of people actually killed was around 25k, which is already terrible enough, but not over 100k as it was claimed. The harder stuff about Nemmersdorf, like naked women nailed to barns, has never happened, at least not there. It was apparently from just rumours or imagination only after the war. If you thought this was already vile or barbaric, you should check out what alone a few hundred men of the Dirlewanger Brigade had done to ten thousands before. Ever heard of units like that? Just imagine that even the SS was disgusted by their cruelties.
@@reinercelsus8299 What especially wasn't true, was the Holocaust.
@@reinercelsus8299
You need to do better research, there are primary documents showing the Dresden kill count being at least 130k. The figures are down played to make the victors look better.
@@rhysnichols8608 I'm German and I have already done better research. The kill count was around 25k, as also confirmed by the official reports and later research done by german historians. The figures had been exaggerated to even far over 200k at one point to make the allies look worse.
Share, because CNN & the BBC wont.
Thanks!
Why wouldn’t they share this both love to bash Russia
@@Ukfairgroundsbut they don’t like bashing bolsheviks or communists.
@@Erosgatesthey do it every chance they get 🥴
@Ukfairgrounds they only hate Russia now because the Russians abandoned Communism
The differences between the front line Red Army and the auxiliaries that would go on to replace them remind me of Peter Kemp's account in _No Colors or Crest_ . To garrison such vile, immoral people in such close proximity to civilians is akin to committing the same crimes they committed.
I have the book downstairs but haven’t got to it yet, maybe I’ll need to get around to it! All accounts seem to say the same thing
@@ZoomerHistorian The part I was talking about involved the billeting of Mongolian troops with Polish civilians. Even when staying with non-German civilians, they would act in an uncivilized manner.
@@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497
It’s truly intriguing to see how humans act when brought up with very different moral principles. What they did would be seen as absolutely disgusting by western civilisation, but to Mongolians it’s more normalised. They’re the enemy, so who cares, type of mindset.
The War of Annihilation, where many found out that rock bottom has a basement.
This needs to come to light! We are never taught this!
mrotslleh is a dok about this if u sir chhh
"we defeated the wrong enemy" -4 star general Patton
he kept saying that but he never acted on it he didn't even wanna do Operation Unthinkable
@@New_frisk because he didn't have authority or even ability to act on it. He was forced to apologise for his words and he just said it again. After that he unsurprisingly got killed in car accident
@@MrSam2497 rest in piss
we shit on your general Patton....you came when the war was over.
t. Genital Mutton
Thank you for this video and for
shedding light on this terrible topic!
I’m currently also reading Graf Lehndorffs „Eastern Prussian Diary 1945-1947“. This is really tough stuff to read.
My grandmother and her family were really lucky to catch one of the latest trains out of Breslau. They did no have to go on foot or by horse carts like so many others. She also witnessed several bombing raids and strafing runs on clearly civilian targets.
What a story! Appreciate the kind words, I’ll be covering more of the escape/expulsions from Eastern Germany in a month maybe, just needed a break from that depressing topic (can only read so many accounts of rape and brutal murder before my brain says no more)
Remember it was the explicit military strategy of the brits to "minecraft as many civilians as possible as fast as possible"
The Germans weren't the perpetrators, they were the victims. The Germans were truly magnificent soldiers and fought like lions until the end, 👍💪💪🇩🇪🇮🇪
Thanks!
Thanks so much mate, means the world!
Bless you for telling these peoples stories!
Well done lad, refreshing to find an authentic historian.
Good joke 😂😂
@@franciscoaraujo2016 ok Brazillian ra
@@franciscoaraujo2016 t
@@olg7483 I am proud to be Brazilian, we invented the airplane
@@franciscoaraujo2016 that is America
This channel is a rare gem
Much appreciated my friend
Very much agreed
Rare doesn't come close to how much I treasure this channel. Please keep doing whatever your passionate about because I'm a huge fan!
I concur, chanced upon this channel via TH-cam recommendations. And it was more than a worthwhile recommendation.
I forgive Russia the enemy is somewhere else
Eisenhower, another member of The Tribe doing what The Tribe does!
Yes sir, Thomas. He was known as the the little Dutch jew by his classmates at West Point.
He was black on his mothers side. People say Obama was Americas first black president but it was actually Eisenhower.
@@panzeraxe6280I have to look this up. Didn't know that.
Yeah, and his boss 's real last name was rosenveld. The world famous name changers.
@maxn.7234 Holy crap its true, along with fdr
Its a damn shame how the masses' understanding of history comes from Hollywood.
It’s a damn shame you people act like the Nazis didn’t try to ethnic cleanse Russia
masses are like very dumb animal, for some reason
As a romanian, I have heard horrible stories from my grandparents about the way the Red Army behaved after they've invaded and occupied Romania! My grandparents on my father's side were ethnic russians but they were not given special treatment , on the contrary!
This didnt happen just to Germans, this happened to anybody in the way of the Red Army as the Asiatic and criminal division obviously didnt care if you were German, Polish, Lithuanian, Ukrainian or even Russian. You can find examples of this in notes written by Polish or Lithuanian police units formed after operation Bagration who witnessed and tried to combat such actions.
Really?, and the Germans were saints in their way during Barbarossa?, what happened to the civilian Germans was the result of what the Germans did to the Soviets!
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn And what the fuck did Poles and Lithuanians do to the Soviets lol?
But what did the Germans do? Many accusations are made but no evidence is ever produced
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn The Soviets were brought that upon themselves. Remember whom they've been allied with or even more assisted between 1939-41? Yes, the very same THIRD REICH!
@@felippe_818 If Stalin would have said "F*ck off" to Hitler back in 1939 the Nazis WOULDN'T BEEN ABLE TO START the war in the first place. So your point about it doesn't mean anything proven to be false. As for the 1 million Soviet soldiers, we saw how they ended up during the war with Finland during the following winter. Numbers doesn't always matter.
This was a rough video to watch. Thank you for covering the soviet atrocities that are so often swept under the rug.
try hellstorm
because atrocities soviets committed are NOTHING compared what germans have done to russians
As sickening as all of this is - what is sickening too is that post-war Germany did not remember and honour all these lost lives; the same goes for the millions of German soldiers.
Whether they were Nazis or not, it should be normal to mourn our grandmothers and -fathers. This has never been encouraged in Germany, never has been spoken of at school.
That's just not normal and it is a burden we Germans are still carrying although born much later. Actually we are unknowingly carrying a burden of unwept tears.
I discovered this channel only a week ago and I am impressed by the quality of your work. You are only stating the facts but that's enough....those who want the truth find it here - thank you for that.
Je weiter wir von der Zeit des 2.WK entfernt sind, desto scheußlicher werden die Lügen über die Wehrmacht und die SS. In Büchern oder Filmen der 50er/60er ist die Wehrmacht meist als völlig normale Armee dargestellt, teilweise auch die SS. Und heutzutage wird kaum noch einer der Veteranen interviewt, wobei wir noch ein paar tausende haben. Währenddessen diejenigen mit der Krummnase weiterhin zu Schulen und so weiter eingeladen werden.
Germany was at fault for WW2 and German soldiers committed terrible atrocities in occupied territories. That's the reason they aren't remembered.
@@fahrenheigh seems you don't like Germans, and/or you know nothing about history.
@@theoderich1168 I know history and I have nothing against Germans. Germans who committed terrible deeds in Soviet Union (15 millions civilians at least) are guilty and other Germans are not. Their crimes were proofed and the Nazis were tried and found guilty. Red Army - was not.
Why? Cause there is not a single reliable source if such information. And this fairytales were made up by Goebbels himself.
This dude just collect this nonsense for views and for making money but not for "truth".
@@theoderich1168 Germany declared war on Poland, knowing both France and the UK had quaranteed it. They also invaded Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia, Greece, and the USSR. What do I not know about history?
Considering almost half of the American population is of german ancestry,it is a bit weird how America helped to brutally destroy germany twice,and to help the same colonial power that it freed itself from in 1776…America’s ingenuity and industrial might was used to massacre the same people most Americans descent from.Just as General Patton said “we fought the wrong enemy”.
Lots of facts I like it you’ve def watched Europa the last battle ❤
What’s shocking to me is that it took a legion of convicts and mental patients (the Dirlewanger Brigade) to commit acts that seemingly came naturally to the Russians and the Japanese. You rightfully hear plenty about Dirlewanger, but nothing about the plight of the average German. Sickening stuff.
Please, the Germans did their deeds in concentration camps, not to say the didn't commit any massacres on the eastern front.
plenty of regular army divisions and formations conducting massacres lol. quit glazing
@Saulgud23 you know nussing!
@@Saulgud23exactly
@@Peter_Pepper_Loveit’s spelled “nothing”
No matter how many times I hear it, it's always horrifying what the invading armies engaged in. The worst and most depraved actions of the Dirlewanger Brigade were the standard for the red army, and we willingly signed over half of Europe to them
@@felippe_818 i think your glasses are too big
It's only a war crime if you lose the war
based
Yeah and only when it comes to the Soviets, nobody here says anything about the Germans and what they did.
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cnBecause we already know what they did? The Allies made sure to make sure EVERYBODY knew what they did. That’s the whole point of this video… 😂🤦♂️, how nobody ever mentions what the allies had to do to win this war.
@@cashcalum3140 Well the Allies did not suffer what the Soviets suffered at the hands of the Germans, so the Allies and every last scumbag these days talking trash about the Soviets and what they did to the German civilians they shall shut up and try to endured what the Soviets endured at the hands of the Germans. If I am down and my enemy is on top inflicting pain on me, nobody can talk trash about me when I am on top and have my enemy down and I am inflicting pain on my enemy so you people better shut up!... the Soviets did what they had to do to get even!
@@felippe_818the US absolutely targeted those of Japanese decent here in the states and many had lost everything they owned when thrown in the internment camps. Plenty has also been written about the open air pow camps that the Allies ran in Europe. No one was a saint in ww2
And they ask us why we’re so “hateful”…
Because you are so hateful. If you can forgive the Germans then why can't you to the others?
@@YuriZhevnev because I have no need to forgive the Germans.
@@scoopidywhoop7484 neither me to you. Your ancestors murdered mine. How does it feels when you're the baddies here?
How the Soviet treats the German is exactly how these Germans will treat them, AND YOU. All of us are evil.
@@scoopidywhoop7484so all the killing and all the racial ideology is justified? Am I lesser than you because I’m not a pure Aryan? 🤡
@@scoopidywhoop7484all the atrocities they committed?
Only history channel that doesnt hate germany
yeah, he straight up glazes the nazis lol
@@O_G I think you are crying about how your great leader blew himself like a bitch 🤣
@Spaniardguy34532 how does that not make me a Christian???? The Gospel is for Gentiles too 🤡
@Spaniardguy34532 how would that be contradictory ??🤡
@Spaniardguy34532 exactly, no logic, no argument, just insults. Extremely smart, because you can’t defend your stance with those things
Thank you for sharing the truth
No problem!
I remember hearing somewhere about the Soviet soldiers who marched in first much of the time saying to the civilians basically get the hell out of here now because the dudes coming in behind us are basically animals. I have no idea how true that is but found it to be interesting
Correct 🧐
Truly disgusting
So does the thing Hitler did to Russians. Where's your consistency here?
Yes poor nazls
Omg so sad 😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂
@@franciscoaraujo2016you’re a clown.
@franciscoaraujo2016 poor civillians, you sick f###
I have a grand-aunt that was a part of the East Prussian exodus, she lost her husband in the exodus and I deeply regret never recording her stories. Her children and grand-children are still alive, maybe I should ask them to write down whatever stories their mother told them.
How long until some individuals start defending the Soviets?
That would be insane
The Soviet Union gave birth to ideologies that promoted genital mutilation and sterlization of our young people in America today
What a deranged comment
They already do tbh
@@fortunatomartino9797 I think he was being sarcastic.
@Crusader21
I used have a sense of humor
😆 🤣 😂
My mother survived the war in Budapest. She said that Stalin made two mistakes during the war. He showed the Russians the world and the world the Russians.
The Russians didn’t forget what the Romanian troops did in the Soviet Union !!
@@f.n8581Literally nothing but the Romanians remembered what the Soviet Russians did to Europe after ww1, Multiple communist uprisings and financed wars with crimes like the Spanish civil war, you defend Russia when everyone hates it for what it was done prior to ww2. 😂
Thank you Zoomer!
This is probably the only channel on youtube that accurately explains the German side of WW2
This channel solely exusts to defend the crimes of Germany in the Second World War. "No bias" is a joke.
History shouldn’t be dictated by politics, just by truth.
THE TRUTH! Dr Goebbels is so proud of you all.
This channel is incredible. It completely turned what I thought WWII into something else. I always wondered what Patton was talking about with the wrong side. Now it total sense.
Thank you for telling truths that have long been untold.
The most valuable thing I find about this series is getting a sense of the position individuals found themselves in and how they chose to act. It is a great series. Many of the premises or assumptions need to be tested though, I would not take this account to be fact but still the detail is insightful about how some, "good" or "evil", think.
My grandmother told me all about it. She was from North East of Berlin near Templin. Bökenberg....
The Japanese actually thought that during the occupation that the Americans would plunder and have their way with women, so that the Japanese even set up brothels. But then that never happened, and the occupying authority shut down the brothels. General MacArthur even became loved by the Japanese.
The occupation was far from sunshine and roses but it was orderly. Which the Japanese appreciated to an extent, understanding that they were still occupied.
Americans weren’t fighting a war for their very survival on their own soil
The difference between good, God fearing folk & savage heathens.
@@SkeeterMcBeater I’m curious, do you believe deep down that Asians (RU, CHI etc) deserve to be/ would be better off dominated by the West?
@@frolicsomgaietyI’m assuming he’s just trying to say that if the Japanese were christianized (which was a real possibility at a period by the Iberians and without colonial occupation) they wouldn’t treat civilians and especially women. Which doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with being ruled by the west
This is well done. For those interested there is a documentary called Hellstorm that covers this but this is a great shorter video that covers some of the atrocities
It's been said a hundred million times before, but we *truly* fought the wrong enemy...
Very correct.
No we didn’t !
@@g.g7427 🤡
@@g.g7427 then who was
@@salahdeanclemens2226Capitalism
Are… are we the baddies?
Lol
No
@@orange8420 true it’s pretty hard to top the nazis.
Debatable.@@orange8420
Considering what the germans did, probably no
I wanted to also recommend The Wolf Children of the Eastern Front - a book that was recently published in English about thousands of kids who became parentless in Eastern Prussia due to barbaric soviet actions and had to flee to Lithuanian forests in the winter without nothing - they spent their youth wandering around and begging without anything left in their lives. Those who survived, at least.
I can't watch this video in one sitting. It's too hellish to listen to.
Hello from Alberta Canada…
You have a gift sir, keep doing what you’re doing, this needs to get out… it’s been hidden for to long.
Just discovered your channel and I love it! Keep up the great work!
Hi @ZoomerHistorian, I don't know if you're reading this, I am Romanian and unfortunately we experienced this first-hand. On the other hand I recall my grandfather stories about the German soldiers giving chocolate and their food rations to children in the poor villages in Romania.. maybe it helps to know that we remember this :)
Yea but if they weren’t white they wouldn’t have gave the food (I’m not defending the Russians but just pointing out the obvious)
Thank you for bringing this to light. To be honest, I probably won't watch the next installment on this topic (I've known about many of these details for several years and it has put me into a serious depressed state in the past.) Unfortunately, it is very hard to get people to seem to care an iota. But, thank you for your efforts. God bless you and your work.
The only way to survive is create a hidden bunker even if you have to dig it yourself
It probably doesn't exist in any language other than german(feel free to search it, maybe it does exist in english) but there is a book about the east prussian wolfs children who lived|SURVIVED the hell of hunger in Königsberg in the years of 1944 to 1950 called "Das Wolfsmädchen- Flucht aus der Königsberger Hungerhölle 1946". The only book that EVER made me genuinely tear up. People have NO IDEA about the sheer extent those euphemistically called "expulsions"
These videos are amazing
I am glad you talked about this brutal and often forgotten topic by many school books. What is even more disgusting is that there are literally internet communists which actually justify these sick atrocities in the comment section.
Tankies never change. They cry about mistreatment against communists but come up with every excuse to justify communist excesses. Having said that, the Germans did some unspeakable things to many nations and groups during ww2, it's just that the Soviets were worse. There's a video testimony from a former soviet officer on TH-cam... What he describes is worse than your worst nightmare.
24:57 ..... It's already on your doorstep
This
While these events are abhorrent and it makes me sick they got off Scott free, we have to remember history doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Undoubtedly many soviet civilians suffered atrocities at the hands of the axis, anti partisan warfare was grim, it was common for a village to be torched and men executed and women sent to labour camps, so to some extent the rage of the soviet troops is understandable. If my wife and kids had been executed by the ss I’d have little remorse when the tables turned.
However equally much of the axis violence was itself a response to years of soviet oppression and atrocities in Eastern Europe. Stalin’s regime killed millions way before the war even started, and the west backed that regime at a time when it had a kill count of around 10 million, and the axis kill count was in the thousands. What I’m trying to say is context is important but all things considered the soviets kinda had it coming, and the double standards also are ridiculous.
I don’t disagree at all, I can sometimes sound like im excusing German actions by covering the other side but that isn’t my intention, I’ll be sure to put things in context more and I’ll make the inverse of this video one day when I can find good sources. ‘How did the Germans treat Soviet civilians’
@@ZoomerHistorian
The thing is a lot of German actions in the east are exaggerated, misrepresented or some are even made up completely. Whereas the allied side atrocities are hardly talked about, leaving a very misunderstood view of things. Perhaps you should make a video about the soviet occupation of east Europe in 1940 and the crimes they committed, and then how this lead to reprisals during Barbarossa.
Oh, you can't say that here, because the Nazis and their allies didn't commit crimes, but "liberated" the Russians, of course from life and territory. That's why they emphasize here that the Russian land belongs to others.
@@rhysnichols8608they’re under exaggerated if anything. NATO gave Nazis positions so they could continue terrorizing Europe.
And eye for an eye is the worst thing to do. You literally just become what you hated and change nothing
They never discussed this in history class…
I knew an Estonian woman who came to Britain in 1945. She said the Estonians regarded the Germans as saviours when they arrived but they hated the Soviets
Hard watch.. Great video nonetheless!
Thanks very much. I agree! taking a break from that kind of topic next week!
This needs to be known to everyone.
There’s a reason why they call it “The Beast from the East”
Obviously very dark subject matter like, but it's important people know the truth.
Excellent video again mate.
I've also just noticed you've already made the "books" video I asked about last week.
I'll stop asking you to make videos you've already made now 🙈😂 As you are clearly all over this.
Again, excellent work pal.
Topman.
Such a tragedy.
Very true!
Such a lie.
@user-bf7ix7fq3d a lie?
@@ГригорийШумилов-ф5р Very true!
@@ГригорийШумилов-ф5р cope.
"It may never happen again."
You'll want to think so but....
Soviets used a two tiered military. They used soldiers from their Far East as shock troops first, then more European units moved in after the battles. The more primitive troops were adept at brutality constant with their native cultures devoid of any western Judeo Christian values. Stalin appreciated the cultural differences of his empire and used them to his advantage. Something that’s presently being done now with illegal migrants, but in a soft power model. Europe, the UK, America, eventually suffering the same fate. Welcome to the realization how real power works.
Please, spare us the 'Judeo' part of Christian. It's as false as much of the propaganda that this channel is challenging
"Judeo" stopped reading here.
Thr brutal primitive troops actions were perfectly in line with "judeo" values.
do the allies next
I will at some point, as well as the Axis
@@ZoomerHistorianI think Tik History has already covered this. What is your opinion on his work? Thank you for your videos by the way.
@@carlrichieukmusic Tik is a smart guy, and an extremely hard worker. I think he misses some obvious truths and comes to insane conclusions sometimes but he definitely warrants the name of historian and I greatly respect him
Thanks for exploring the German and Pan European perspective on the war.
The nazl perspective ?
That wanted to exterminate all slavs ?
@@franciscoaraujo2016 Do you have an opinion on that? Poland was run by a military Junta at the time. Ethnically cleansing minority German, jews, and Russian citizens. Using the threat of the Red menace to blackmail Germany to give up more territory as well.
Are those the Slavs or are you talking about the Ukrainian and Baltic Slavs that joined the great crusade against the Bolshevik menace?
@@EJisArete You are so lost in the Nazl propaganda, really sad
You have no salvation
Yes, Józef Piłsudski's Poland was also fasclst
and does this justify what the Germans did there, ghettos, concentratlon camps, forced Germanization, kidnapping of children?
While the German invasion of Poland was a plan for Lebensraum, exterminatlon, segregatlon, annihilatlon of civilians and culture, the Soviet invasion of Poland was to obtain a strategic position to stop the Nazl advance in Europe, which they achieved defeating them
@@EJisArete My comment got deletd by boom historian
@@EJisArete You are so lost in the Nazl propaganda, really sad
You have no salvation
Yes, Józef Piłsudski's Poland was also fasclst
and does this justify what the Germans did there, ghettos, concentratlon camps, forced Germanization, kidnapping of children?
While the German invasion of Poland was a plan for Lebensraum, killing of civilians and culture, the Soviet invasion of Poland was to obtain a strategic position to stop the Nazl advance in Europe, which they achieved defeating them
I, as a german who is aware of what happend sadly can't watch this video because it is too much for me to comprehend mentally.
Never in my life was I so angry and sad and in general emotional just because watching a video on a historical topic.
I once saw a video, a few years ago with interviews about the soviets going into germany and their crimes, mostly on children and teenage girls.
Since then I still can not get these stories out of my mind.
Yeah you can see it. Their world was being destroyed in insane dysfunctional madness and their society was being attacked by true monsters, and they have this built in highly profound urge and you are all in the same boat, waiting. These hideous aggressors are still the same.
Also have testimony from fleeing ostdeutsch that British planes straffed and killed civilians in Austria. Also that American B lacks were d runk and unruly, shooting in the air.
For any one looking for more information on this topic I would recommend the book "Hellstorm: The Death Of Nazi Germany". Not gonna lie it's a tough read. I had to take many breaks reading the horrors perpetrated on specifically the young women of Germany and read some of the stories mentioned in this video but it incorporated a ton of first hand accounts of the end of the war from the average German.
Thanks for the info. I'll have to check it out
I couldn't finish the video. I had read a book by an eastern front German were he described such things. It's just too horrible to comprehend such monsters existed.
The RAF bombed one of these “ rescue ships on the same route in the same period with the loss of around 6000 souls , ( there were others sunk ) not only civilians on board but German soldiers too
watch europe the last battle there evn are some witnesses who lived to tell the story
Very similar deeds were done by soviet soldiers in Romania and the following communist regime continued the atrocities
Zoomer Historian, I’ve always wondered how German civilians were treated in East Germany or how they remembered these atrocities committed by the Soviets during WW2. I find your content fascinating and would love to see this immediate aftermath of WW2.
24:00 i mean, the asiatic Russians are mongols so er.....
Communism won. But who were the communists?
Jews
@@War_thunder_Adict average tsarist (blame muh jews instead of total ineptitude in running a country)
@@War_thunder_AdictMensheviks? Trotskist? Frankfurt Scholars? Today SJW?😀
oy vey
That's the question. We know the answer...
These atrocities have been happening to Palestinians every day for 75 years
In what way ?
@@krystjanchanerley9288thought natsocs dislike Israel XD
@@krystjanchanerley9288 the same enemy the same way ...
Europe would be better off today if Germany won. My respect for the Russian people took a serious nosedive after watching this video. Absolutely sickening. I don’t advocate for people being held accountable for the actions of their ancestors, but these acts were absolutely beyond the pale for a modern nation to commit
Communists are not russians, vietnamese, chinese or americans.
They're ... well, the video explain what they are and what they do.
No Germany nor USSR should win the war. They both should were stopped by any means necessary earlier. Remilitarization of the Rhineland, Munich Agreement, Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact. Nations of Central-East Europe warned that Moscow and Berlin were ruled by neobarbarians.
@@timmorin6657communist are 1st and foremost, traitors to there own people. In literally every communist country, they pursued policies to eradicate the local culture and especially religion. However every human has a inate bias towards their own kind even “post racial communist”. If they can treat there own people so horribly it really ain’t a surprise that they can be so callous against foreign people
Ya even though the Germans massacred at least 10 times more civilians in the USSR but let’s cry about it only when Germans are the ones dying what goes around comes around and Germany got what was coming to them
If Nazi-Germany had won, another 6 mln Jews would have been killed. Wanting that, makes you an antisemite. Furthermore some 40 mln Slavs would have been killed, with more to come. Furthermore the religions would have been crushed, and culture, and the last vestiges of freedom.
Great video.
A had a German neighborhood a kid, Rosie. She was a really sweet old lady. She told me stories about hiding from the soviets at the end of the war. She was like 17 when it ended.
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nazism is jewish
I find the saying that the victors write history is very true especially with the way how every possible German war crime is 10x amplified and yet most Crimes by the allies/soviet is seen as needed to „crush the German morale“
Its so bizarre a great example is Dresden a city turned to ash just because it was a “a Justified target“ it’s still just bad shit insane to me
Raping or killing civilians was forbidden by death in the German Wehrmacht.
Just saying
Yep, and killing jews and communists was also forbidden by death.
Just saying.
@@faunt07 can tell U by my grandfather who fought in Stalingrad they never harmed civilians. And if so they were punished.
What is a commist?
@@JohnBambooO, it's a simple grammar mistake don't mind it.
And no, you are wrong. Saying "Raping or killing civilians was forbidden by death in the German Wehrmacht" is as true as to say they didn't kill jews or communists.
There was no punishment by death for this. In fact it was quite the opposite. There was Barbarossa decree in Wehrmacht signed by Keitel the chief of the OKW.
In this decree there is a specific paragraph:
"German soldiers who commit crimes against humanity, the USSR and prisoners of war are to be exempted from criminal responsibility, even if they commit acts punishable according to German law." They didn't punish wehrmacht soldiers they decriminalized the crimes.
@@faunt07 so? Didn't say it didn't happen but if U experienced the whole history Germany never started those horrific crimes against humanity and the holocaust which happened against the Germans still get justified with lies. Sickening
It's absolutely obvious the same people still rule this world. They were just affraid the German concept will sprout.
These days Germany is a puppet state of the American sub state trying to get rid of the last Germans.
Sickening too
That;s why they created brothels for soldiers
Ernst Zundel’s wife, Ingrid Rimland - a Mennonite in Ukraine- spoke (and wrote) with great affection about her German liberators.
I grew up in California but my dad was a participant in the Battle of Berlin when he was 17. He also spent two years in anti-aircraft unit as part of his "high school" experience. His mom was Polish and both parents where originally from Posen. HIs dad died in the German Army and he would sink into a depressed state if I pressed too hard on WW2 but I got the story over time. We did move to West Berlin for a year when I was young. We also travelled through East Germany and Poland...the area where they used to spend their summers when it was part of Germany, for my dad it represented better times. It was of course, a total sh*t show at this time, early 1981. When I asked my dad where all the Germans were he so they where all killed, streets names changed, now it is all Polish and stuck with Communism. Given the conditions my dad was upset more for the Poles than anyone else since here they where ALL occupied. I was learning a bunch of dark historical things at 11-12 years old when up to that point my worldview was more just Puka shells, OP shorts, skateboards, AC/DC, and the only thing I knew about WW2 was Hogans Heroes.
I as an Arab, I sympathize with the German civilians in the same manner as one would sympathize with the Palestinian Arabs in relation to the Zionists...
Its the same war, one is merely the extension of the other divided by years.
@@RealitiesCookiejarUSSR was pro Palestine dummy