As someone who ran away from Ukraine I don’t really understand what is the problem with russian language, actually a very few persons in Ukraine speak ukranian. The “local” lenguage is hard even for them
Ever heard of Volhynian massacre in 1943 and other warcrimes inspired by ukrainian national heroes? They still don't want to apologize for that despite all the help provided by Polin(Poland) in the name of friendship betwewn jews ruling both countries.
Ukraine consists of Russian territories, which were annexed to Ukraine in different years. Little Russia or Malorossia ( Central Ukraine) in 1654-1917 by decree of the Russian tsars, Novorossia (Donbass) in 1922 by decree of Lenin, Crimea in 1954 by decree of Khrushchev and Galicia in 1939, 1945 by decree of Stalin. The real Ukraine had a small piece of land on the outskirts of the Russian Empire since 1654 and was called Gulyai Pole. Ukraine has never been a state and a separate ethnic group. It was a group of people, consisting of Russians, Turks, Poles. Many of them were criminals who fled from punishment and deserters. In the future, they called themselves the Don Cossacks and served the Russian Empire. Ukraine received statehood in 1991 by decree of Russian President Yeltsin. But at the same time, the legal procedure for Ukraine's secession from Russia was not carried out and state borders were not formalized. Nazism has existed in Ukraine since 1920s. This is a well-known historical fact, confirmed by documents and documentaries that can be easily found on TH-cam. I recommend watching the video of the historian Mark Felton about neonazim in Ukraine "Azov Battalion - History and Symbols" and "Ukrainian SS in Britain - Postwar SS - Galizien Division Refugees. The most famous Nazis in Ukraine are Bandera and Shukhevych, they are still popular there. Your ignorance of history looks like propaganda against facts for which there is evidence.
hm . . . A country who is owned by olichargs . . . keeping the people poor in order to get some very rich owners of big companies . . It's a mix of Fascist Germany and the USA under Trump . . .Directed by a copy of Himler . . isnt it? The boss is a clown with 1,5 billion Dollar somewhere when it is needed to move his ash ,. .
While I don't agree with what Russia is doing, the propoganda they are spreading and how they are justifying things, your video has some major flaws: 1) Peterson is Canadian, not American. He does not influence the opinion of people about this war THAT much, there are bigger figures for that. He's also not wrong about borders which were arbitrarily drawn up by politicians instead of holding referendums and asking the people where they wanted to belong to. There is of course no justification for violence on any side for this reason though. 2) Sure...though the region in question in the east was historicaly mostly populated by a mix of people who have always been grateful to Russia because of the land they were given while trying to find refuge from the attacks of the Ottoman empire. On an ethnic basis, this ammounts to a clerical error when drawing the borders in Ukraine and should've likely been kept in Russia. Again... a case of politicians dividing territory instead of holding a proper referundum in areas that might be disputable. 3) While "genocide" is a large stretch, it is well documented that the Ukrainian government has a terrible track record in the way it treats/treated minorities.... closing down ethnic schools, cultural centers, forbiding languages to be spoken which were sometimes enforced by police, and generally making no economic, social or infrastructure investments to areas that don't identifiy as 100% Ukraniane. It's an attempted assimilation by force, something right out of the Soviet playbook. Just before the current war broke out, two western countries were investigating their own militaries for ethics violations for helping train eastern Ukranian forces which were known to identify with more "Nazi" like tendencies...this was a fact back then. The investigations were muted when war broke out. 3 and 4) Nato violated their own agreement with Russia almost right away. They promised not to expand, and they did within only a few years...closer and closer to a Russia that, at the time, wasn't organized enough to do anything or pose a threat. This continued with weapons platforms and missle platforms being placed right along the borders of Russia in years to come. As for negotiating for 6 months and violations on that front, the war started in 2014 and there simply is no negotiating with Ukraine, a government that has been known to be horrendously corrupt, either heavily influenced by Russia or heavily influenced by the west and having a "my way or the highway" type attitude when dealing with non-ehtnic Ukrainians who are living in their country not out of their own choice. When the poeple of Donbas started to indicate dissent well before 2014, why didn't the government try to deal with that internally diplomatically? 5) Relation with the West and China are slowly falling apart. The truth is, both are between a rock and a hard place. The US needs China for their endless cheap goods, China needs the US to keep engineering goods so that they can copy the technology when it's manufactured in China. This has been ongoing for a while now, but the reaility is that this balance is starting to very much move in favour of China. Western countries who were traditionally reliant on China are re-building some critical factories within their own lands because automation can do a lot of the work that the 1000s of labourers were doing in China without the shipping costs. China has reverse engineeered almost anything that they need and have educated their techn engineers well enough to come up with their own processes. They've become well off because of the West and are neighboured by contries that, in the long run, have much greater economic power than the west will have. They are not there yet, but China is moving more and more towards self sustaining economic independence than more people realise, and this is why they can also be more and more agressive diplomatically. Will they join the war? probably not... but guaranteed they are already supplying weapons or other tech, and there's nothing anyone can do about that. Conclusion) While I grant that self-defence can always be justified, the political actions of either side cannot be justified....neither before or during this war so far. They both suck. The west is also guilty because unless it wants to put boots on the ground, it is basically killing off Ukranians in war that at the end will likely result in a kind of North/South Korea type solution, or Russia simply giving up but still being right next door and awaiting a future time to fight again. In other words, they've already lost but continue to kill their own people. The ending of Russia as we know it, is an unlikely and a dangerous venture, so the end game will be simply that nothing changes and we return to what was?
Good analysis. +1
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As someone who ran away from Ukraine I don’t really understand what is the problem with russian language, actually a very few persons in Ukraine speak ukranian. The “local” lenguage is hard even for them
Good vid, thanks🍻
Ever heard of Volhynian massacre in 1943 and other warcrimes inspired by ukrainian national heroes? They still don't want to apologize for that despite all the help provided by Polin(Poland) in the name of friendship betwewn jews ruling both countries.
not objective information, in eastern Ukraine - in the past of Novorossiya, people support Russia
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Ukraine consists of Russian territories, which were annexed to Ukraine in different years. Little Russia or Malorossia ( Central Ukraine) in 1654-1917 by decree of the Russian tsars, Novorossia (Donbass) in 1922 by decree of Lenin, Crimea in 1954 by decree of Khrushchev and Galicia in 1939, 1945 by decree of Stalin. The real Ukraine had a small piece of land on the outskirts of the Russian Empire since 1654 and was called Gulyai Pole. Ukraine has never been a state and a separate ethnic group. It was a group of people, consisting of Russians, Turks, Poles. Many of them were criminals who fled from punishment and deserters. In the future, they called themselves the Don Cossacks and served the Russian Empire. Ukraine received statehood in 1991 by decree of Russian President Yeltsin. But at the same time, the legal procedure for Ukraine's secession from Russia was not carried out and state borders were not formalized.
Nazism has existed in Ukraine since 1920s. This is a well-known historical fact, confirmed by documents and documentaries that can be easily found on TH-cam. I recommend watching the video of the historian Mark Felton about neonazim in Ukraine "Azov Battalion - History and Symbols" and "Ukrainian SS in Britain - Postwar SS - Galizien Division Refugees. The most famous Nazis in Ukraine are Bandera and Shukhevych, they are still popular there. Your ignorance of history looks like propaganda against facts for which there is evidence.
Where is source?
the video fact checked the most common hoax about ukraine, and i love that, support to ukraine all the way.
hm . . . A country who is owned by olichargs . . . keeping the people poor in order to get some very rich owners of big companies . . It's a mix of Fascist Germany and the USA under Trump . . .Directed by a copy of Himler . . isnt it? The boss is a clown with 1,5 billion Dollar somewhere when it is needed to move his ash ,. .
While I don't agree with what Russia is doing, the propoganda they are spreading and how they are justifying things, your video has some major flaws:
1) Peterson is Canadian, not American. He does not influence the opinion of people about this war THAT much, there are bigger figures for that. He's also not wrong about borders which were arbitrarily drawn up by politicians instead of holding referendums and asking the people where they wanted to belong to. There is of course no justification for violence on any side for this reason though.
2) Sure...though the region in question in the east was historicaly mostly populated by a mix of people who have always been grateful to Russia because of the land they were given while trying to find refuge from the attacks of the Ottoman empire. On an ethnic basis, this ammounts to a clerical error when drawing the borders in Ukraine and should've likely been kept in Russia. Again... a case of politicians dividing territory instead of holding a proper referundum in areas that might be disputable.
3) While "genocide" is a large stretch, it is well documented that the Ukrainian government has a terrible track record in the way it treats/treated minorities.... closing down ethnic schools, cultural centers, forbiding languages to be spoken which were sometimes enforced by police, and generally making no economic, social or infrastructure investments to areas that don't identifiy as 100% Ukraniane. It's an attempted assimilation by force, something right out of the Soviet playbook. Just before the current war broke out, two western countries were investigating their own militaries for ethics violations for helping train eastern Ukranian forces which were known to identify with more "Nazi" like tendencies...this was a fact back then. The investigations were muted when war broke out.
3 and 4) Nato violated their own agreement with Russia almost right away. They promised not to expand, and they did within only a few years...closer and closer to a Russia that, at the time, wasn't organized enough to do anything or pose a threat. This continued with weapons platforms and missle platforms being placed right along the borders of Russia in years to come. As for negotiating for 6 months and violations on that front, the war started in 2014 and there simply is no negotiating with Ukraine, a government that has been known to be horrendously corrupt, either heavily influenced by Russia or heavily influenced by the west and having a "my way or the highway" type attitude when dealing with non-ehtnic Ukrainians who are living in their country not out of their own choice. When the poeple of Donbas started to indicate dissent well before 2014, why didn't the government try to deal with that internally diplomatically?
5) Relation with the West and China are slowly falling apart. The truth is, both are between a rock and a hard place. The US needs China for their endless cheap goods, China needs the US to keep engineering goods so that they can copy the technology when it's manufactured in China. This has been ongoing for a while now, but the reaility is that this balance is starting to very much move in favour of China. Western countries who were traditionally reliant on China are re-building some critical factories within their own lands because automation can do a lot of the work that the 1000s of labourers were doing in China without the shipping costs. China has reverse engineeered almost anything that they need and have educated their techn engineers well enough to come up with their own processes. They've become well off because of the West and are neighboured by contries that, in the long run, have much greater economic power than the west will have. They are not there yet, but China is moving more and more towards self sustaining economic independence than more people realise, and this is why they can also be more and more agressive diplomatically. Will they join the war? probably not... but guaranteed they are already supplying weapons or other tech, and there's nothing anyone can do about that.
Conclusion) While I grant that self-defence can always be justified, the political actions of either side cannot be justified....neither before or during this war so far. They both suck. The west is also guilty because unless it wants to put boots on the ground, it is basically killing off Ukranians in war that at the end will likely result in a kind of North/South Korea type solution, or Russia simply giving up but still being right next door and awaiting a future time to fight again. In other words, they've already lost but continue to kill their own people. The ending of Russia as we know it, is an unlikely and a dangerous venture, so the end game will be simply that nothing changes and we return to what was?
Why even point out flaws? Many pro-ukranians just like to ignore reality. This video is clearly a propaganda.
You left out why Putin went in to defend and protect The Donbass.
You left out what prompted Putin to take back Crimea.