Greta video Tom. We are currently living in Goa and wanting to move permanently to Bali and in time start a small business. Can't go for retirement visa but noticing their doesn't seem to be info on starting a small business in Bali and what are is the route via Visas etc. Any pointers Tom.
Hi Jason well you certainly can come and start a business, when you do you will have the equivalent of a residence permit for you and your family. There are different ways you can do this depending on the type of business. Let me just point you to my old friend Deni, who I've known for over 15 years; he helps foreigners with starting new businesses and land deals as well. I trust him and recommend him without reservation. I haven't spoken with him for a while, let me get in touch with him and I'll post a working number for him here for you.
Hi there--well the real issue right now of course is Covid. I'm not sure if they're issuing Social Visas or Retirement Visas as of right now (Feb 2021). Don't get me wrong, they might be. When this period is over I'll do an update video, I've heard that the Social Visa/Sosial Budaya will be somewhat more expensive going forward. And just for what it is worth, in my opinion if one is eligible for the Retirement Visa/KITAS, it's much more attractive than a Social Visa, as you can get the multiple entry version and you don't have to leave Indonesia every 6 months. Wish I could be of more help to you--good luck.
@@Wagefreedom Thank you for your response. I just completed an Expedited application for the Social Visa, but am still considering (and did inquire about) the Retirement Visa/KITAS.
tom i don't know if you still view this or not but i have a really big question. Can you continue to keep using the social visa and just stay in Indonesia indefinitely?
Hi Shane, thanks for your question. There are several different flavors of KITAS, and you're right most of them do allow you to do a lot more than a Social Visa would, business-wise etc, (although just fyi the retirement KITAS doesn't allow any more than physical presence). But yep, KITAS are multiple entry and they're good for a year so it's a lot less hassle if one is willing to do what it takes to get one.
@@Wagefreedom I’m looking to move to Bali long term. Have British passport and South African passport so Kitas would probably be my best option. Kitas still count as non-resident?
A KITAS is a "limited stay permit" and some people refer to them as residence permits, though I think it's a gray area. As I say different types of KITAS allow very different activities. What's allowed by a KITAS one gets when one starts a business here would be different from what you csn do if you have a retirement KITAS for example. Hope that helps.
Hi there Waviboy. First, there is talk of a digital nomad visa coming to Indonesia, possibly as a way to encourage the return of visitors once the world gets this damn virus under control. Other countries have started to offer these and while this *has not happened yet*, do keep an eye out for news about it--in my opinion it would be an incredibly constructive thing to do. Currently though, your social visa won't allow employment in Indonesia. I would be careful, but as you know there are many people who'd describe themselves as digital nomads here. Many of these people are doing online businesses activities that center around their home country, or at least ex-Indonesia, so might not strictly be considered as 'being employed in Indonesia'. I'd come and ask around, see what the current situation is. And, definitely cross your fingers for that digital nomad visa.
Hello, thank you for the video. I have a question. I am arriving in Bali on the 9th of December, can I enter the country on a free visa, get an agent to help me out with social visa, then buy a ticket to singapure before the 30days free visa runs out, go to singapure and get a social visa there, fly back to Bali with it and stay there for 180days? :)
Hi Spela -- well up until a couple of years ago my answer would have been that that's the best way to get a social visa. You need a sponsor letter from an Indonesian for the Social Visa, and agents here in Bali can provide you with one. Then the process in Singapore is easy. Or at least it used to be. Starting a couple of years ago we started to hear of people being denied entry to Singapore if you're entering with the intention of doing a one day visa run. You might make your trip to Singapore a bit more than a visa run, maybe stay a few days. Maybe make a side trip to Malaysia. What I would do is to call a visa agent in Singapore I've used many times, Ismail Hamdan--I'd suggest calling him directly for the most up to date info. Google "Ismail Hamdan Singapore visa agent" for his contact info or you might check this article I wrote a while ago for most of the process and his contact info, minus the current question as to one-day visa runs: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/ I wish I could be more definitive, but things change as you know. I hope that helps Spela.
To extend your social visa at the end of 60 days you "Have" to go to Immigration for fingerprints and photo. Your agent will arrange that approx one week before the 60 days is up. They will usually hold your passport and do all the other extensions themselves. You just have to pay them each time. (approx 700,000 IDR ). Just to be safe make sure you get a copy of your passport and each visa stamp. All too simple.
So it is 750 000 rupiah for agent+visa all together? and then after two months you extend a visa by paying another 700 000, and then after a month again the same, and two times more after that, after each month, is that correct?
Just wondering what travel health insurance company do you use? In one of you video you mentioned that you payed about $300 USD for a couple? We have been looking into it but not sure who could give us reasonable rates.
Try Natalie at www.asialife.net/ . This is more expat insurance than travel insurance; the policies she gets us into are by the year. But it sounds like that might be appropriate for you. Natalie's excellent, I just saw her last week.
Hi Wage Freedom, what if I got the social visa already and is already staying in Bali, can I leave the country during my visa period and enter again anytime I like without any hassle or do I need to stay in Bali only, during my visa period.
Hi Nyan--- the social visa (Sosial Budaya) is single entry, please check the actual visa in your passport to confirm. If you leave you'll have to get another one and I don't think they're issuing them right now, yet. But of course to be clear you don't need to stay only in Bali, you can go to other places in Indonesia.
Hi Tom. I've loved your videos and bought your book. I have a question about retirement visas you may be able to answer. Is there a minimum that you need to spend on a residence and hiring a local to qualify?
Hi DCD-- first, thank you very much for buying "How To Live in Bali", and I hope it's answered most of your questions about living here as an expat. As far as the retirement visa goes, I don't think there's any requirement as to how expensive your accommodations are. I know people living here quite frugally on retirement visas. In terms of the employment of an Indonesian that you're supposed to do, i.e. usually people hire a maid or 'pembantu' if they are in a house, that could be a bit of a challenge for you if you're living in a small place and you don't need a maid. But this is something that the agent you retain as you go thru the process can help you address. It's a requirement but I think there are ways to fulfill the requirement that you'll be able to meet. The agent will definitely have had clients in a similar situation before. Good luck to you and let me know if you have other questions.
Thanks Tom. I've been coming to Bali for about 10 yrs and since my first visit I've wanted to retire there. Most of the expats I've talked to are fairly well off so are living in nice villas. I'm not quite so well off and will most likely be renting a kost. Don't think I'll need a full time pembantu. Lol. I'm comfortable on a bike so won't be needing a driver either. I'll be coming on a Social Budya at first and can speak with an agent there about the requirements of a retirement visa and how I can get around them. But thank you for your response. Maybe I'll see you on the beach. Terima kasih banyak. Dan
Hi there ruffneck---well you need a passport to travel internationally, and then every country you enter will need to see it, and then there will be some provision for a visa to actually get into each country. Sometimes no pre-planning is needed and they simply stamp your passport as you enter. For some visas, such as the Indonesian Social Visa, some pre-planning is needed but the good news is you can stay far longer than if you simply present yourself at immigration. I hope that makes sense.
Thanks a lot very helpful. Where can we find agents . How much is the 6 months social Visa. So you have to keep getting extensions every 30 days after the first two months even if you have a social Visa?
Hi there Patryna and thanks for your comment, yes your last question is exactly right. I've never used this company visaforbali.com/content/contact but I've heard very good reviews about them. They'll be able to answer your questions and get you everything you need. Good luck to you!
So....even with a 6 month Social visa, you can only stay for the first 60 days carefree, and then each month you have to go to the embassy to get a 30 day extension? Then after 6 months in total, you have to leave and go thru this again?
Hi Desi-- yep with a social Visa it's 60 days off the airplane, then you need to go not to the Embassy but to the Indonesian immigration office. Some agents can handle these extensions so that you don't have to go down every month but you will have to go the first time to get fingerprinted and a photo taken. If you want to get a Social Visa ask the agent who is giving you the sponsor letter and the other things they'll give you if they can also do the extensions for you. If they can handle it for you it makes things much easier. I hope that helps!
Hi there Max-- The social visa is single entry. Certainly you can leave whenever you want, I guess that's obvious.. It makes sense for anything over 60-day stay.
Ok thanks for confirming and explain the process. I will come in June on a 60 VOA, get my sponser, fly to singapore and obtain the social visa. On another note, do you know any areas in Bali that are artist based? I'm specifically looking for a complex / building / area where artists work as I would like a studio space to work for my art. I assume Ubud would be the place for this...
If you want to come apply for either a Social Visa, it allows you to stay for 6 months, or if you're over 55 years old a Retirement Visa that allows you to stay for a year. See if you like it. If you do like it, before your Visa expires, apply for another one. Foreigners can't own property in Indonesia but long-term leases are very much available especially in Bali and often very, very good value for money. Thanks for the question and good luck to you there.
Hi Ivana, the social visa gives you 60 days off the airplane and then is extendable four times up to a maximum of 180 days. No extensions past that. But then you can exit and get another one. That's a completely new visa. I hope that helps!
@@Wagefreedom thanks. And after the next 6month social visa you can go out of the country and get a new one again, and do like that forever? Also, when you do that, how long do you have to stay out of Indonesia before applying for a new social visa?
Here you go, check out this article, just about everything I know about the Indonesian social visa: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/
Hi there, thanks for your question. Assuming the same rules apply coming out of this C-19 period as were in place a year ago, here's what might interest you: there are 2 types of Visa-on-Arrival (VOA), and the Social Visa (Sosial Budaya). Citizens of most countries can get 30 days off the airplane for free, but can't extend that visa. Or, you can tell the immigration official you'd like the 60-day extendable VOA, which was around US$35 or AU$50. They haven't been issuing these for almost a year now so when they do so again the amounts certainly might change. If you get the extendable VOA go down to Immigration about a week before your 30 days are up and you can extend it for another 30 days to 60 days maximum stay. Alternatively, you can apply for a Social Visa from the Indonesian Embassy nearest to your home. You'll need to get a few things together--call them and ask for the visa section--but it's pretty easy. The Social Visa gives you 60 days off the airplane; at about day 50 go down for your first extension. You can get 4 extensions maximum for a 180 day stay max. So to answer your question as far as I know the Indonesian visa you describe doesn't exist. If you want to stay 90 days the Social Visa is best for you, and it will be only 1 extension. I hope that helps.
Hi Sarah, yes you will need an onward ticket for either flavor of the VOA, but not the social Visa. The airlines are strict about this nowadays. Good luck to you there.
Hi Levgenii--- I know several people who have done/are doing this. Of course each visa is a separate application, and no guarantees, but in practice it is not unusual.
The cost at the embassy is roughly US$60 depending on which Embassy you go to, and then each extension is 700k or 750k rupiah or roughly US$45. That includes the agent's fee. Not a bad deal for a 180 day stay. I hope that helps!
@@Wagefreedom ok, so its about 250 USD for 6 months stay and I assume there is no issues repeating the process indefinitely? After 180 days you have to leave the country and re-apply outside of Indonesia(KL, SG,..), how fast can social visa be organized before you get back in? days, a week?
@@hellouser5498 Yes that's all accurate. It is a couple of days in Singapore, or I've used a Singapore visa agent for a 1-day turnaround. I wrote this article on the process, and you can find his contact info there too: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/ . I hope that helps. If you're 55 or older you can get a retirement visa/KITAS, which ends up being about the same cost as social visas each year, but the retirement visa has a multiple-entry option.
Hi DM-- hey thanks a lot, but there are a pile of people acting as agents already--which of course is a good thing if you'd like some help. I'm happy to answer questions/give my opinion as best I can though! Let me know if I can help and thanks for watching DM.
Hi, i have just subscribed to your page.Great video and advice. I have been to Bali for a 2 wk holiday in 2017, and then for the 30day voa in 2018. I am now planning to travel to Indonesia next year, not to sure if for 3 or 6 months. Does the social visa allow you to travel to other parts of Indonesia or just for Bali?
Hi Kim, thanks for subscribing and thanks for your question. Yes the Social Visa is good for travel all over Indonesia, certainly not just Bali. For any stay over 60 days it's really ideal.
@@Wagefreedom, how many visas are you allowed to apply for? Ie: is there a limit for one person? Also I was not aware of a retirement visa, I plan on taking early retirement next year, so how does that affect me applying for a visa? But no plans on moving there. I plan on travelling around first.
Hi Kim! I don't think there's a hard limit on the number of social visas you can get. Some people I know have had quite a few of them. One benefit the Retirement Visa has over the Social Visa is that you can get the version that is multiple entry so that for a year you're set and you can leave as many times as you want.
@@Wagefreedom I have read up about the retirement visa, and it says i have to live there and employ someone from bali. Thats what i didnt want to do. I am sure you have been asked this next question many times, could i do a VOA every 30days instead of doing a 3month visa? If i do decide the 3 month visa, i have been looking into doing it here (UK) before i leave. My travel starts in April
Hi Kim, if you do a VOA you probably want to get the extendable VOA, the one you pay for when you enter at the airport, good for 30 days and then extendable one time for a total of 60 days. You have to ask for it or else you'll just get the regular 30 day VOA and have to leave after 30 days. For stay longer than 60 days I really recommend the Social Visa, the Sosial Budaya. You do have to get it before you enter Indonesia and you do need a sponsor letter but there are local agents in Bali who can get you what you need before you leave home. Just Google, there are many of them. Also it's not a 3-month visa, no offense but there is no 3-month Visa currently, the social Visa is good for 60 days off the airplane and then allows a maximum of 4 extensions up to 180 days total. The retirement Visa is more involved to get and in my opinion starting with the social Visa is a better idea. One minor downside with the social Visa is it is single entry. So if you leave after a few months you need a new one upon re-entering Indonesia. I know it is complex Kim, I hope all that helps!
Thank you so much for this. Is the social visa extendable if you'd like to live in Bali more than 6 months? I'm assuming a trip to Singapore to reapply is in order but wanted to be clear.
Hi Adele - yes as you suspect you do have to leave Indonesia after 180 days and your maximum four extensions of the Social Visa. Singapore is your closest option and you can get great deals on flights especially if you book more than 30 days out. FYI you have the option of a one-day turnaround if you use an agent in Singapore (I've heard that the embassy will do a one-day turnaround but I have never tried that there). Of course a few days in Singapore it's nice too.... I wrote a pretty comprehensive article about Indonesian Social Visas here, including the contact information of the agent I use in Singapore for one-day Visa runs: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/ I hope that helps Adele, please let me know if I left anything out!
@@Wagefreedom Thank you so much! I'm now currently looking into how to get a working visa while I'm there so I can advertise my business. I've reached out to a company to see if I can do it here in the US before I arrive. That way I don't need to leave, get the working visa in another country and come back to Indonesia. Any insight on this process and an agent I could use would be most helpful. Really love your work, keep it up!
@@adelehoddinott519 Hi Adele. If you would like we could do a quick call, with what you've said I can probably simplify matters for you. Maybe email me at tom at wagefreedom.com and I'll give you my WhatsApp number or just add me on FB @wagefreedom and we can do a messenger call.
Hi Bilalli -- take a look at this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Indonesia It looks like you might not be eligible for the visa on arrival. I don't think that means you can't get a visa. Call the Indonesian Embassy nearest you. Doesn't have to be in Kosovo. Good luck to you friend and I hope you can get the visa sorted out.
Hi Kelley, try this company, I've never used them but people I trust have said great things about them: they should be able to get you everything you need. www.visaforbali.com/
i came into bali and said I wanted to the 60 day visa, but it looks like the stamp has a date of 30 days...so i do i know for sure if i got the right visa that is extendable for a full 60 days?
Hi Liza-- thanks for your question, and thank you very much for buying my book. I think the extendable VOA shows 30 days on the visa, but it should be extendable if you paid the fee at Immigration. I would either call an agent to have them help you--they should be able to tell immediately, or got to the Immigration office yourself several days before your first 30 days is up. My guess is that if you paid you should have an extendable VOA.
Hi Liza, please remember that only VOA is extendable, if your passport can enter Bali with free visa or visa exemption, you can stay for 30 days only, except you use VOA to enter Bali which is extendable for 30 days, meaning that you can stay in Bali for 60 days totally, hopefully this information is useful for you and have a nice travel.
when coming into bali & getting the VoA do you need to have a return or onward ticket to show? we arnt sure how long we want to stay in bali so it makes it hard to book a plane ticket prior to arrival but its seems like we have to?
A lot of airlines won't let you board unless you can show the onward ticket, unless you have a Social Visa. Have in hand a one way ticket to Singapore or KL dated either ~29 or ~58 days after you arrive, depending on whether you'll get the 30-day free VOA or the 60-day paid VOA. I recommend Air Asia for a few reasons, and they'll let you change the ticket more than 48 hrs in advance (that was the case a year or so ago, I'd double check). Buy the tickets more than 30 days in advance and you can get very good deals. I hope that helps.
Hi Tom im going to try to get social visa in Bali when i go to malaysia this month but if cant get it i plan on visa extinsion, if i do that can i get exit ticket 58days after being there or do i still need exit ticket less then 30 days
Hi there Garry--thanks for your question. If you come in on a VOA nowadays, the airline will very probably want to see an onward ticket. If your onward ticket is 58 days after you're set to arrive and you tell them you're going to get an extendable VOA *I would think* that would be fine. It's about having onward ticket and they know that the VOA extension is not a problem to get. Having said that, I am not the airline obviously and I can't be a hundred percent sure. If I was you I would call AirAsia or whatever airline you're planning to take and ask them directly. It's a good question. Good luck to you, let me know how it goes.
Hey! thanks for this video, one of the most helpfull ones i've found! But i'm still a bit confused as what I should do. I am travelling to Indonesia in july and staying (i hope) for 72 days. When I booked my flights I stupidly had not looked at visas first. So now I realise I am only going over 12 days from the 60 day visa, which I gather is a lot more straight foward than doing the social visa for just an extra 12 days. What do you recommend I do? I am thinking to even buy another ticket to come back in 60 days just to avoid all the hassle.
Hi Odara --- thanks for the kind words! I think you have two options. (I should say too that overstaying for 12 days is absolutely not an option. Indonesian Immigration is very strict when it comes to overstays of any length. Not that you were considering that, just putting it out there as a general statement.) You could get the extendable 60-day VOA (Visa on Arrival), you must ask for it when you land in Bali. Get the extension and then book a ticket from Bali to Singapore/KL sometime between day 43 and day 60. After 2 or 3 days come back in on a new 30 day (free) VOA to make your 72 days. This involves no agents and going to the Immigration office once to extend your 60-day visa. Try Air Asia more than 30 days in advance for good prices to SIngapore and KL. Or, you can get the Social Visa, and get one extension on it. Go down on about day 52 by the way, don't wait till day 59! For this you can use this agent below who will get the sponsor letter etc. to you and tell you what you need to send into the Indonesian Embassy nearest you. I have not used this company but I have heard very good things about it from wagefreedom.com readers: visaforbali.com/content/contact I hope that helps Odara! Good luck to you.
Thank you so much! You are so helpful! So with the first option do you think it's "safe" i.e they will let me back in no problem. Like i'm not breaking any rules or anything.. Because I think that sounds like an easier option even though i'll have to fly out. Thanks so much!
Well.....you know what I'd do honestly, since you have plenty of time. I'd get the Social visa. The agent will send you all you need. Call them first, then you can connect thru WhatsApp after initial contact. You just send everything to the embassy nearest you and they will get you your passport back to you with plenty of time. That means just an hour or so you'll need for the extension over your 72 day stay and about 750k rupiah for the extension, so cheaper all in all....unless you'd like to see Singapore of course (great food!)
Whoops, I didn't answer your question---if you do the visa run option, in Singapore I've heard sometimes they don't like people doing 1-day visa runs from Indonesia then back again the same day. I've been told it's no problem if you stay 2 or 3 nights.
Ahh I see.. Great I think I might go to singapore as i've always wanted to visit the garden by the bay. :) I'm going to think it over a few days see how much it will cost and make a descision. Thanks so much again for all your advice!
Hello, I am planning on coming to Bali for 3 months. I only want to book a one way ticket. I think to do this , I need a a 60 day visa to be able to do that. Can I get a 60 day visa on line? Then can I extend that in Bali without leaving ? Thank you, I have just found you, you are awesome !
Hi Linda and thanks for your comment. I think there are two ways you can go here if you want to stay in Bali for 3 months. You can get a Social Visa (social budaya) which allows you 2 months off the airplane and then you'd need to extend it one time to get you to your 90 days. Unfortunately this is not offered online, you need to get an agent to get you the sponsor letter and a couple of other small things, they can get you that via email. Google 'social Visa Bali agent'. This is really a pretty painless way to do it actually. Follow the agent's instructions and send everything to be Indonesia Embassy closest to where you live. If you are already in Southeast Asia it's easier, try Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or the best is Singapore. You'll have to be in one of those cities to give them your passport and it takes a couple days, or in Singapore in the article above I list an agent who can help with a one-day turnaround for you. You will still need to contact the Bali agent for the sponsor letter. The other way, if you want to stay 3 months is to get the paid visa-on-arrival (VOA) that allows a 60-day stay and at day 59 leave for a couple days to Singapore. I've heard that sometimes people have problems if they try to return to Bali the same day on a visa run for a VOA but if you stay two or three days in Singapore it should be fine. I hope all that helps Linda, check the article I linked to in the description of the video for more information. Good luck!
Thank you so much Tom, I will get the Social Visa as I don't really want to leave for a few days ? Do you have any agent you would recommend? roughly how long will it take? I am hoping to be in Bali by end of June.
It shouldn't be expensive from an agent Linda, I know as a service they will give you the sponsor letter snd the other things you need, maybe US$20 or so. The extension is a different story, that might be 750k rupiah or so. And yes you apply for the Social Visa before you get to Indonesia.
I'm trying to find out if I can get a business visa on arrival, and I heard this can be extended to a year. And then repeated several times, is this true as I'm thinking about staying long term.
Hi Cherise -- look into the Social Visa, which allows you a maximum six months stay. If you have no Social visa in hand when you arrive you'll either get the 30 day free Visa On Arrival (VOA) or pay about US$35 for a 30-day extendable visa, which can be extended one time for an additional 30 days, up to a maximum of 60 days. The Social Visa you have to get together before you arrive but it's not that difficult. Please refer to this post on how to do that: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/ If you want to stay for a long time you can get additional social visas, just exit the country and come back in with another one. I hope that helps you Cherise.
Hi there, I just checked, I don't have Mr. Hamdan's email unfortunately. I've always spoken to him directly by phone. Let me give you this URL, an article I wrote on the whole process including his contact info. I'd suggest calling him, he's extremely helpful and personable. wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/
very informative. Thank you for sharing your experience. So If Social Budaya Visa valid for 6 months only, What do you do to extend it if you plan to live in Bali for a year or longer? Will the Immigration official start questioning you?
Great info! Still a little confused 😂 planning a trip to Bali and hoping to stay 6 mos or longer but will hve to travel to BKK/ Laos after 2 mos, better to get VOA + 30days (2 mos) and when return try to apply for the social visa then?? Pls clarify 🙏 tyvm
Or if you know you'd like to stay for 6 months, you could get an agent in Bali to send you what you need for the Social Visa and then get it at an Indonesian embassy in BKK, KL or Singapore so you have it in hand the first time you arrive. There are lots of Bali agents who will do this for you. I hope that helps!
For 30 days visa on arrival its ard $40 or 500.000 idr rupiah now. Get a good reliable agent or else you will be going back to immigration for 3 days waiting 4 to 7 hrs. Not worth it. Extra 30 days it's ard $35 too. Agent will charge ard $55 to $100 for each visa extention. You can haggle prices. A good agent will do everything for you and all you need to do is come to immigration for fingerprinting and photos. No t shirts or shorts at any govt property. Be respectful and proper there or else you will pay the price. you are a guest so act like it. Btw the day you arrived is day 1. If you go over 30 days you will be charged 300.000 idr or ard $25 per day!!!
OMG wow, that's such helpful information. Thank you so much
You're welcome Melanie, glad you got something from it!
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Thank you for the extremely helpful and informative video
You're very welcome, thanks for the comment!
. Thanks for the info. it helps a lot
You're very welcome Mohamed.
Greta video Tom. We are currently living in Goa and wanting to move permanently to Bali and in time start a small business. Can't go for retirement visa but noticing their doesn't seem to be info on starting a small business in Bali and what are is the route via Visas etc. Any pointers Tom.
Hi Jason well you certainly can come and start a business, when you do you will have the equivalent of a residence permit for you and your family. There are different ways you can do this depending on the type of business. Let me just point you to my old friend Deni, who I've known for over 15 years; he helps foreigners with starting new businesses and land deals as well. I trust him and recommend him without reservation. I haven't spoken with him for a while, let me get in touch with him and I'll post a working number for him here for you.
Here is Deni's WhatsApp number Jason +62 817-4727-838
Thanks , you’re helping a lot , great job.
Oh thanks, I'm glad you're getting some use out of it, let me know if I missed anything please!
Thx you for sharing this info..
You're very welcome! I hope you found it helpful.
Thanks for your valuable input.Can you tell me whats the validity ,time of the Social visa?
For 2021, how relevant are the points made in the video? Currently in Bali and considering Retirement Visa
Hi there--well the real issue right now of course is Covid. I'm not sure if they're issuing Social Visas or Retirement Visas as of right now (Feb 2021). Don't get me wrong, they might be. When this period is over I'll do an update video, I've heard that the Social Visa/Sosial Budaya will be somewhat more expensive going forward.
And just for what it is worth, in my opinion if one is eligible for the Retirement Visa/KITAS, it's much more attractive than a Social Visa, as you can get the multiple entry version and you don't have to leave Indonesia every 6 months.
Wish I could be of more help to you--good luck.
@@Wagefreedom Thank you for your response. I just completed an Expedited application for the Social Visa, but am still considering (and did inquire about) the Retirement Visa/KITAS.
Always whispers. Hey brother, it's not a secret when it goes up on youtube. :D Top videos by the way. I've watched them all.
Thank you 🙏
What's the retirement visa
Great thanks for the info! Looking forward to moving there!
You're very welcome Alfredo, let me know if I can answer any further questions you have.
Great information thank you you need a small tripod of some kind yeah was difficult to watch. I had to just close my eyes and listen
Good information, keep up the good work. you are my go to Agent for Bali, Indonesia
tom i don't know if you still view this or not but i have a really big question. Can you continue to keep using the social visa and just stay in Indonesia indefinitely?
Basically, yes Blake. A lot of people do, for years.
Hi buddy!
What if I want to go as a digital nomad to bali for 1-2 years? How can i do this ?
Isn’t Kitas the better year to year as you can open a business, rent property etc
Hi Shane, thanks for your question. There are several different flavors of KITAS, and you're right most of them do allow you to do a lot more than a Social Visa would, business-wise etc, (although just fyi the retirement KITAS doesn't allow any more than physical presence). But yep, KITAS are multiple entry and they're good for a year so it's a lot less hassle if one is willing to do what it takes to get one.
@@Wagefreedom I’m looking to move to Bali long term. Have British passport and South African passport so Kitas would probably be my best option.
Kitas still count as non-resident?
A KITAS is a "limited stay permit" and some people refer to them as residence permits, though I think it's a gray area. As I say different types of KITAS allow very different activities. What's allowed by a KITAS one gets when one starts a business here would be different from what you csn do if you have a retirement KITAS for example. Hope that helps.
@@Wagefreedom that does thank you bud. See you in Bali one day mate.
@@shagggggy that would be great Shane--- be well there.
very useful!! thank you so much!!
You're very welcome Kakibana, glad you found it useful!
Hi! Are you able to work (as a digital nomad) with a social visa? For example be a freelancer online or have your own online business?
Hi there Waviboy. First, there is talk of a digital nomad visa coming to Indonesia, possibly as a way to encourage the return of visitors once the world gets this damn virus under control. Other countries have started to offer these and while this *has not happened yet*, do keep an eye out for news about it--in my opinion it would be an incredibly constructive thing to do.
Currently though, your social visa won't allow employment in Indonesia. I would be careful, but as you know there are many people who'd describe themselves as digital nomads here. Many of these people are doing online businesses activities that center around their home country, or at least ex-Indonesia, so might not strictly be considered as 'being employed in Indonesia'. I'd come and ask around, see what the current situation is. And, definitely cross your fingers for that digital nomad visa.
Love your videos.
Hello, thank you for the video. I have a question. I am arriving in Bali on the 9th of December, can I enter the country on a free visa, get an agent to help me out with social visa, then buy a ticket to singapure before the 30days free visa runs out, go to singapure and get a social visa there, fly back to Bali with it and stay there for 180days? :)
Hi Spela -- well up until a couple of years ago my answer would have been that that's the best way to get a social visa. You need a sponsor letter from an Indonesian for the Social Visa, and agents here in Bali can provide you with one. Then the process in Singapore is easy. Or at least it used to be. Starting a couple of years ago we started to hear of people being denied entry to Singapore if you're entering with the intention of doing a one day visa run. You might make your trip to Singapore a bit more than a visa run, maybe stay a few days. Maybe make a side trip to Malaysia. What I would do is to call a visa agent in Singapore I've used many times, Ismail Hamdan--I'd suggest calling him directly for the most up to date info. Google "Ismail Hamdan Singapore visa agent" for his contact info or you might check this article I wrote a while ago for most of the process and his contact info, minus the current question as to one-day visa runs: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/ I wish I could be more definitive, but things change as you know. I hope that helps Spela.
To extend your social visa at the end of 60 days you "Have" to go to Immigration for fingerprints and photo. Your agent will arrange that approx one week before the 60 days is up. They will usually hold your passport and do all the other extensions themselves.
You just have to pay them each time. (approx 700,000 IDR ). Just to be safe make sure you get a copy of your passport and each visa stamp. All too simple.
Every word of that is accurate, thanks Rick!
So it is 750 000 rupiah for agent+visa all together? and then after two months you extend a visa by paying another 700 000, and then after a month again the same, and two times more after that, after each month, is that correct?
Just wondering what travel health insurance company do you use? In one of you video you mentioned that you payed about $300 USD for a couple? We have been looking into it but not sure who could give us reasonable rates.
Try Natalie at www.asialife.net/ . This is more expat insurance than travel insurance; the policies she gets us into are by the year. But it sounds like that might be appropriate for you. Natalie's excellent, I just saw her last week.
Hi Wage Freedom, what if I got the social visa already and is already staying in Bali, can I leave the country during my visa period and enter again anytime I like without any hassle or do I need to stay in Bali only, during my visa period.
Hi Nyan--- the social visa (Sosial Budaya) is single entry, please check the actual visa in your passport to confirm. If you leave you'll have to get another one and I don't think they're issuing them right now, yet. But of course to be clear you don't need to stay only in Bali, you can go to other places in Indonesia.
@@Wagefreedom Thanks a lot for answering my question🙏☺️
You're very welcome!
Hi Tom. I've loved your videos and bought your book.
I have a question about retirement visas you may be able to answer.
Is there a minimum that you need to spend on a residence and hiring a local to qualify?
Hi DCD-- first, thank you very much for buying "How To Live in Bali", and I hope it's answered most of your questions about living here as an expat.
As far as the retirement visa goes, I don't think there's any requirement as to how expensive your accommodations are. I know people living here quite frugally on retirement visas. In terms of the employment of an Indonesian that you're supposed to do, i.e. usually people hire a maid or 'pembantu' if they are in a house, that could be a bit of a challenge for you if you're living in a small place and you don't need a maid. But this is something that the agent you retain as you go thru the process can help you address. It's a requirement but I think there are ways to fulfill the requirement that you'll be able to meet. The agent will definitely have had clients in a similar situation before.
Good luck to you and let me know if you have other questions.
Thanks Tom.
I've been coming to Bali for about 10 yrs and since my first visit I've wanted to retire there.
Most of the expats I've talked to are fairly well off so are living in nice villas. I'm not quite so well off and will most likely be renting a kost. Don't think I'll need a full time pembantu. Lol.
I'm comfortable on a bike so won't be needing a driver either.
I'll be coming on a Social Budya at first and can speak with an agent there about the requirements of a retirement visa and how I can get around them.
But thank you for your response.
Maybe I'll see you on the beach.
Terima kasih banyak.
Dan
Thank you. So Visa Yes, PassPorts don't mean anything? Still need Visa?
Hi there ruffneck---well you need a passport to travel internationally, and then every country you enter will need to see it, and then there will be some provision for a visa to actually get into each country. Sometimes no pre-planning is needed and they simply stamp your passport as you enter. For some visas, such as the Indonesian Social Visa, some pre-planning is needed but the good news is you can stay far longer than if you simply present yourself at immigration. I hope that makes sense.
Thanks a lot very helpful. Where can we find agents . How much is the 6 months social Visa. So you have to keep getting extensions every 30 days after the first two months even if you have a social Visa?
Hi there Patryna and thanks for your comment, yes your last question is exactly right. I've never used this company visaforbali.com/content/contact but I've heard very good reviews about them. They'll be able to answer your questions and get you everything you need. Good luck to you!
So....even with a 6 month Social visa, you can only stay for the first 60 days carefree, and then each month you have to go to the embassy to get a 30 day extension? Then after 6 months in total, you have to leave and go thru this again?
Hi Desi-- yep with a social Visa it's 60 days off the airplane, then you need to go not to the Embassy but to the Indonesian immigration office. Some agents can handle these extensions so that you don't have to go down every month but you will have to go the first time to get fingerprinted and a photo taken. If you want to get a Social Visa ask the agent who is giving you the sponsor letter and the other things they'll give you if they can also do the extensions for you. If they can handle it for you it makes things much easier. I hope that helps!
By the way, you wouldn't wait until day 60 to get your extension, get the ball rolling on about day 50 or so.
Hi! What about a retiree visa? What are the requirements?
I love your videos .
thanks for video! Is the social visa you're describing multiple entry or do I have to stay in Indo during this time? Thanks
Hi there Max-- The social visa is single entry. Certainly you can leave whenever you want, I guess that's obvious.. It makes sense for anything over 60-day stay.
Ok thanks for confirming and explain the process. I will come in June on a 60 VOA, get my sponser, fly to singapore and obtain the social visa. On another note, do you know any areas in Bali that are artist based? I'm specifically looking for a complex / building / area where artists work as I would like a studio space to work for my art. I assume Ubud would be the place for this...
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If you want to stay in Bali for many years how can you do it??? Move to Bali permanently? Please ! Can you buy a house there? We are from Europe.
If you want to come apply for either a Social Visa, it allows you to stay for 6 months, or if you're over 55 years old a Retirement Visa that allows you to stay for a year. See if you like it. If you do like it, before your Visa expires, apply for another one. Foreigners can't own property in Indonesia but long-term leases are very much available especially in Bali and often very, very good value for money. Thanks for the question and good luck to you there.
Is social visa extensible? After six months you can just take another social visa?
Hi Ivana, the social visa gives you 60 days off the airplane and then is extendable four times up to a maximum of 180 days. No extensions past that. But then you can exit and get another one. That's a completely new visa. I hope that helps!
@@Wagefreedom thanks. And after the next 6month social visa you can go out of the country and get a new one again, and do like that forever? Also, when you do that, how long do you have to stay out of Indonesia before applying for a new social visa?
Here you go, check out this article, just about everything I know about the Indonesian social visa: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/
Can you get 30 days free then apply for 60 additional days? (90 days total)
Hi there, thanks for your question. Assuming the same rules apply coming out of this C-19 period as were in place a year ago, here's what might interest you: there are 2 types of Visa-on-Arrival (VOA), and the Social Visa (Sosial Budaya). Citizens of most countries can get 30 days off the airplane for free, but can't extend that visa. Or, you can tell the immigration official you'd like the 60-day extendable VOA, which was around US$35 or AU$50. They haven't been issuing these for almost a year now so when they do so again the amounts certainly might change. If you get the extendable VOA go down to Immigration about a week before your 30 days are up and you can extend it for another 30 days to 60 days maximum stay.
Alternatively, you can apply for a Social Visa from the Indonesian Embassy nearest to your home. You'll need to get a few things together--call them and ask for the visa section--but it's pretty easy. The Social Visa gives you 60 days off the airplane; at about day 50 go down for your first extension. You can get 4 extensions maximum for a 180 day stay max.
So to answer your question as far as I know the Indonesian visa you describe doesn't exist. If you want to stay 90 days the Social Visa is best for you, and it will be only 1 extension. I hope that helps.
@@Wagefreedom thank you for the info please update me of any new regulations that come up. Thank you wish I was in Bali!!!!!
Awesome, thanks for the Info
You're very welcome Seb, glad you found it useful.
thanks for the share! do you need to show any kind of return or onward flight ticket for 30/60 day VOA or Social Visa?
Hi Sarah, yes you will need an onward ticket for either flavor of the VOA, but not the social Visa. The airlines are strict about this nowadays. Good luck to you there.
Hello, Is it possible to get a few social visas in a row, to live 1-2 years in Bali?
Hi Levgenii--- I know several people who have done/are doing this. Of course each visa is a separate application, and no guarantees, but in practice it is not unusual.
@@Wagefreedom Thank you ! =)
@@Wagefreedom Thank you! What visa do you have, that you are able to live 12 years there ?
Shoot me an email at think_tom@hotmail.com if you'd like Levgenii
@@Wagefreedom Thank you !
How much does it cost all up for 6 month social visa+4 extensions+agent fee?
The cost at the embassy is roughly US$60 depending on which Embassy you go to, and then each extension is 700k or 750k rupiah or roughly US$45. That includes the agent's fee. Not a bad deal for a 180 day stay. I hope that helps!
@@Wagefreedom ok, so its about 250 USD for 6 months stay and I assume there is no issues repeating the process indefinitely?
After 180 days you have to leave the country and re-apply outside of Indonesia(KL, SG,..), how fast can social visa be organized before you get back in? days, a week?
@@hellouser5498 Yes that's all accurate. It is a couple of days in Singapore, or I've used a Singapore visa agent for a 1-day turnaround. I wrote this article on the process, and you can find his contact info there too: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/ . I hope that helps. If you're 55 or older you can get a retirement visa/KITAS, which ends up being about the same cost as social visas each year, but the retirement visa has a multiple-entry option.
Dude you can be an agent yourself lol, you're great and you seem to know how to set everything up properly
Hi DM-- hey thanks a lot, but there are a pile of people acting as agents already--which of course is a good thing if you'd like some help. I'm happy to answer questions/give my opinion as best I can though! Let me know if I can help and thanks for watching DM.
Hi, i have just subscribed to your page.Great video and advice. I have been to Bali for a 2 wk holiday in 2017, and then for the 30day voa in 2018. I am now planning to travel to Indonesia next year, not to sure if for 3 or 6 months. Does the social visa allow you to travel to other parts of Indonesia or just for Bali?
Hi Kim, thanks for subscribing and thanks for your question. Yes the Social Visa is good for travel all over Indonesia, certainly not just Bali. For any stay over 60 days it's really ideal.
@@Wagefreedom, how many visas are you allowed to apply for? Ie: is there a limit for one person?
Also I was not aware of a retirement visa, I plan on taking early retirement next year, so how does that affect me applying for a visa? But no plans on moving there. I plan on travelling around first.
Hi Kim! I don't think there's a hard limit on the number of social visas you can get. Some people I know have had quite a few of them. One benefit the Retirement Visa has over the Social Visa is that you can get the version that is multiple entry so that for a year you're set and you can leave as many times as you want.
@@Wagefreedom I have read up about the retirement visa, and it says i have to live there and employ someone from bali. Thats what i didnt want to do. I am sure you have been asked this next question many times, could i do a VOA every 30days instead of doing a 3month visa? If i do decide the 3 month visa, i have been looking into doing it here (UK) before i leave. My travel starts in April
Hi Kim, if you do a VOA you probably want to get the extendable VOA, the one you pay for when you enter at the airport, good for 30 days and then extendable one time for a total of 60 days. You have to ask for it or else you'll just get the regular 30 day VOA and have to leave after 30 days.
For stay longer than 60 days I really recommend the Social Visa, the Sosial Budaya. You do have to get it before you enter Indonesia and you do need a sponsor letter but there are local agents in Bali who can get you what you need before you leave home. Just Google, there are many of them. Also it's not a 3-month visa, no offense but there is no 3-month Visa currently, the social Visa is good for 60 days off the airplane and then allows a maximum of 4 extensions up to 180 days total. The retirement Visa is more involved to get and in my opinion starting with the social Visa is a better idea. One minor downside with the social Visa is it is single entry. So if you leave after a few months you need a new one upon re-entering Indonesia.
I know it is complex Kim, I hope all that helps!
Thank you so much for this. Is the social visa extendable if you'd like to live in Bali more than 6 months? I'm assuming a trip to Singapore to reapply is in order but wanted to be clear.
Hi Adele - yes as you suspect you do have to leave Indonesia after 180 days and your maximum four extensions of the Social Visa. Singapore is your closest option and you can get great deals on flights especially if you book more than 30 days out. FYI you have the option of a one-day turnaround if you use an agent in Singapore (I've heard that the embassy will do a one-day turnaround but I have never tried that there). Of course a few days in Singapore it's nice too....
I wrote a pretty comprehensive article about Indonesian Social Visas here, including the contact information of the agent I use in Singapore for one-day Visa runs:
wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/
I hope that helps Adele, please let me know if I left anything out!
@@Wagefreedom Thank you so much! I'm now currently looking into how to get a working visa while I'm there so I can advertise my business. I've reached out to a company to see if I can do it here in the US before I arrive. That way I don't need to leave, get the working visa in another country and come back to Indonesia. Any insight on this process and an agent I could use would be most helpful. Really love your work, keep it up!
@@adelehoddinott519 Hi Adele. If you would like we could do a quick call, with what you've said I can probably simplify matters for you. Maybe email me at tom at wagefreedom.com and I'll give you my WhatsApp number or just add me on FB @wagefreedom and we can do a messenger call.
Can I travel tourist to Indonesia from Kosovo ?
Hi Bilalli -- take a look at this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Indonesia It looks like you might not be eligible for the visa on arrival. I don't think that means you can't get a visa. Call the Indonesian Embassy nearest you. Doesn't have to be in Kosovo. Good luck to you friend and I hope you can get the visa sorted out.
Any recommendation on a good agent.
Hi Kelley, try this company, I've never used them but people I trust have said great things about them: they should be able to get you everything you need. www.visaforbali.com/
i came into bali and said I wanted to the 60 day visa, but it looks like the stamp has a date of 30 days...so i do i know for sure if i got the right visa that is extendable for a full 60 days?
Hi Liza-- thanks for your question, and thank you very much for buying my book. I think the extendable VOA shows 30 days on the visa, but it should be extendable if you paid the fee at Immigration. I would either call an agent to have them help you--they should be able to tell immediately, or got to the Immigration office yourself several days before your first 30 days is up. My guess is that if you paid you should have an extendable VOA.
Hi Liza, please remember that only VOA is extendable, if your passport can enter Bali with free visa or visa exemption, you can stay for 30 days only, except you use VOA to enter Bali which is extendable for 30 days, meaning that you can stay in Bali for 60 days totally, hopefully this information is useful for you and have a nice travel.
Thanks Mate
You're welcome Sam!
when coming into bali & getting the VoA do you need to have a return or onward ticket to show? we arnt sure how long we want to stay in bali so it makes it hard to book a plane ticket prior to arrival but its seems like we have to?
A lot of airlines won't let you board unless you can show the onward ticket, unless you have a Social Visa. Have in hand a one way ticket to Singapore or KL dated either ~29 or ~58 days after you arrive, depending on whether you'll get the 30-day free VOA or the 60-day paid VOA. I recommend Air Asia for a few reasons, and they'll let you change the ticket more than 48 hrs in advance (that was the case a year or so ago, I'd double check). Buy the tickets more than 30 days in advance and you can get very good deals. I hope that helps.
Hi Tom im going to try to get social visa in Bali when i go to malaysia this month but if cant get it i plan on visa extinsion, if i do that can i get exit ticket 58days after being there or do i still need exit ticket less then 30 days
Hi there Garry--thanks for your question. If you come in on a VOA nowadays, the airline will very probably want to see an onward ticket. If your onward ticket is 58 days after you're set to arrive and you tell them you're going to get an extendable VOA *I would think* that would be fine. It's about having onward ticket and they know that the VOA extension is not a problem to get. Having said that, I am not the airline obviously and I can't be a hundred percent sure. If I was you I would call AirAsia or whatever airline you're planning to take and ask them directly. It's a good question. Good luck to you, let me know how it goes.
Hey! thanks for this video, one of the most helpfull ones i've found! But i'm still a bit confused as what I should do. I am travelling to Indonesia in july and staying (i hope) for 72 days. When I booked my flights I stupidly had not looked at visas first. So now I realise I am only going over 12 days from the 60 day visa, which I gather is a lot more straight foward than doing the social visa for just an extra 12 days. What do you recommend I do? I am thinking to even buy another ticket to come back in 60 days just to avoid all the hassle.
Hi Odara --- thanks for the kind words!
I think you have two options. (I should say too that overstaying for 12 days is absolutely not an option. Indonesian Immigration is very strict when it comes to overstays of any length. Not that you were considering that, just putting it out there as a general statement.)
You could get the extendable 60-day VOA (Visa on Arrival), you must ask for it when you land in Bali. Get the extension and then book a ticket from Bali to Singapore/KL sometime between day 43 and day 60. After 2 or 3 days come back in on a new 30 day (free) VOA to make your 72 days. This involves no agents and going to the Immigration office once to extend your 60-day visa. Try Air Asia more than 30 days in advance for good prices to SIngapore and KL.
Or, you can get the Social Visa, and get one extension on it. Go down on about day 52 by the way, don't wait till day 59! For this you can use this agent below who will get the sponsor letter etc. to you and tell you what you need to send into the Indonesian Embassy nearest you. I have not used this company but I have heard very good things about it from wagefreedom.com readers:
visaforbali.com/content/contact
I hope that helps Odara! Good luck to you.
Thank you so much! You are so helpful! So with the first option do you think it's "safe" i.e they will let me back in no problem. Like i'm not breaking any rules or anything.. Because I think that sounds like an easier option even though i'll have to fly out.
Thanks so much!
Well.....you know what I'd do honestly, since you have plenty of time. I'd get the Social visa. The agent will send you all you need. Call them first, then you can connect thru WhatsApp after initial contact. You just send everything to the embassy nearest you and they will get you your passport back to you with plenty of time. That means just an hour or so you'll need for the extension over your 72 day stay and about 750k rupiah for the extension, so cheaper all in all....unless you'd like to see Singapore of course (great food!)
Whoops, I didn't answer your question---if you do the visa run option, in Singapore I've heard sometimes they don't like people doing 1-day visa runs from Indonesia then back again the same day. I've been told it's no problem if you stay 2 or 3 nights.
Ahh I see.. Great I think I might go to singapore as i've always wanted to visit the garden by the bay. :) I'm going to think it over a few days see how much it will cost and make a descision. Thanks so much again for all your advice!
Hello, I am planning on coming to Bali for 3 months. I only want to book a one way ticket. I think to do this , I need a a 60 day visa to be able to do that. Can I get a 60 day visa on line? Then can I extend that in Bali without leaving ?
Thank you, I have just found you, you are awesome !
Hi Linda and thanks for your comment. I think there are two ways you can go here if you want to stay in Bali for 3 months.
You can get a Social Visa (social budaya) which allows you 2 months off the airplane and then you'd need to extend it one time to get you to your 90 days. Unfortunately this is not offered online, you need to get an agent to get you the sponsor letter and a couple of other small things, they can get you that via email. Google 'social Visa Bali agent'. This is really a pretty painless way to do it actually. Follow the agent's instructions and send everything to be Indonesia Embassy closest to where you live. If you are already in Southeast Asia it's easier, try Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or the best is Singapore. You'll have to be in one of those cities to give them your passport and it takes a couple days, or in Singapore in the article above I list an agent who can help with a one-day turnaround for you. You will still need to contact the Bali agent for the sponsor letter.
The other way, if you want to stay 3 months is to get the paid visa-on-arrival (VOA) that allows a 60-day stay and at day 59 leave for a couple days to Singapore. I've heard that sometimes people have problems if they try to return to Bali the same day on a visa run for a VOA but if you stay two or three days in Singapore it should be fine.
I hope all that helps Linda, check the article I linked to in the description of the video for more information. Good luck!
Thank you so much Tom, I will get the Social Visa as I don't really want to leave for a few days ? Do you have any agent you would recommend? roughly how long will it take? I am hoping to be in Bali by end of June.
It shouldn't be expensive from an agent Linda, I know as a service they will give you the sponsor letter snd the other things you need, maybe US$20 or so. The extension is a different story, that might be 750k rupiah or so. And yes you apply for the Social Visa before you get to Indonesia.
Thank you so much
You're welcome Linda
thankyouu
You're welcome 😊
I'm trying to find out if I can get a business visa on arrival, and I heard this can be extended to a year. And then repeated several times, is this true as I'm thinking about staying long term.
Hi Cherise -- look into the Social Visa, which allows you a maximum six months stay.
If you have no Social visa in hand when you arrive you'll either get the 30 day free Visa On Arrival (VOA) or pay about US$35 for a 30-day extendable visa, which can be extended one time for an additional 30 days, up to a maximum of 60 days.
The Social Visa you have to get together before you arrive but it's not that difficult. Please refer to this post on how to do that: wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/
If you want to stay for a long time you can get additional social visas, just exit the country and come back in with another one.
I hope that helps you Cherise.
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Hi, can you please send me the email of the agent in Singapore? Thank you Sir.
Hi there, I just checked, I don't have Mr. Hamdan's email unfortunately. I've always spoken to him directly by phone. Let me give you this URL, an article I wrote on the whole process including his contact info. I'd suggest calling him, he's extremely helpful and personable.
wagefreedom.com/a-visa-for-long-stays-in-bali-indonesia-what-you-need-to-know/
very informative. Thank you for sharing your experience. So If Social Budaya Visa valid for 6 months only, What do you do to extend it if you plan to live in Bali for a year or longer? Will the Immigration official start questioning you?
Ive been here for 8 years so far. An agent is the way to go. They can question them.
I don't suppose you would be able to recommend an agent ?
@@RubberontheroadIndonesia Hi Rick what's the retirement visa about and how do you get it ?
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Great info! Still a little confused 😂 planning a trip to Bali and hoping to stay 6 mos or longer but will hve to travel to BKK/ Laos after 2 mos, better to get VOA + 30days (2 mos) and when return try to apply for the social visa then?? Pls clarify 🙏 tyvm
Or if you know you'd like to stay for 6 months, you could get an agent in Bali to send you what you need for the Social Visa and then get it at an Indonesian embassy in BKK, KL or Singapore so you have it in hand the first time you arrive. There are lots of Bali agents who will do this for you. I hope that helps!
Wage Freedom Tvym!! Good info 🙏
For 30 days visa on arrival its ard $40 or 500.000 idr rupiah now. Get a good reliable agent or else you will be going back to immigration for 3 days waiting 4 to 7 hrs. Not worth it. Extra 30 days it's ard $35 too. Agent will charge ard $55 to $100 for each visa extention. You can haggle prices. A good agent will do everything for you and all you need to do is come to immigration for fingerprinting and photos. No t shirts or shorts at any govt property. Be respectful and proper there or else you will pay the price. you are a guest so act like it. Btw the day you arrived is day 1. If you go over 30 days you will be charged 300.000 idr or ard $25 per day!!!
Probably the worst explananation of Indonesias visa regulations I have seen so far.