The brake hose hole at 13:00 scares me away from this frame set altogether . Some new road bicycles have brake hoses going around the steerer and not through it . A friend's new gravel bike has the brake hose coming out behind the left fork leg through a small opening . Tricky to replace without a draw wire though .
@@stevenleffanue I believe the steerer left leg junction is an implied hole and also a visible one behind the disc brake caliper but 3 inches above it . Specialized have also used this method .
The only thing that scares me about those frames is, as you showed in the video, the bottom bracket and brake mounts are not surfaced which would mean issues with installing and aligning the brakes and the potential for cracking BB. But it is just my impression and I wonder whether someone had an issue with it.
The bottom bracket has been bonded in after the frame was moulded . Bladders are used during initial baking . They are removed and the aluminium shell is then installed .
I'm interested in this frame but have a question.. I travel with my bike at least a half dozen times a year and need to pack it in an Evoke bag.. Is the seatpost clamp sturdy enough to take the numerous tightening and loosenings of disassembling needed to remove the seat. (and have you had any issues withthat style loosening when ridden a lot?) and is there enough slack to take the handlebars off when packing for a trip without having to disconect brake cables? Seems almost no youtube bike reviewers pay attention to these two key considerations for those of us who fly with our bikes. Thanks for your reply in advance!
I am getting one and plan to travel through europe with it i am not getting the integrated bar/stem. To pack it I just have to remove tape and levers, then unbolt bars from the stem.
I am a big fan of ICAN products, I have a couple of their frames, and a half dozen sets of their wheels. Great products, but I'm not interested in these newer frames because there is no way I ever want a frame that requires you to run internal cables through the head tube. Way too much hassle for the minimal gains involved. In many cases this forces you to run an electrical groupset, something else I've tried and consider a minimal gain at substantial expense. They also no longer produce rim brake frames although they still supply rim brake wheels. I thin for the DIY crowd there should be some options.
No rack mounts - drats. (call me old fashioned) Waiting patiently for the Marin Headlands 2 to come back in stock - it ticks all my boxes: carbon WITH rack mounts, Apex/Eagle drivetrain (I wish this was more common!), and great price.
This is not a gravel bike. This is a road bike (with aggressive fit) with a wider clearance for tires. Propriatery headset, seatpost. Integrated stem with no chance to fit. Molded into carbon frame alu bsa shell - a very nice solution for galvanic corrosion! Shimano, move you a$$ and deliver finally a wireless groupset, because companies are making some $hit instead of a good frame to fit your idiotic di2...
Why oh why does a gravel frame has to have a aero seatpost … only makes the ride unnessecary harsh and hard to replace - oh and no dropper post option either…👎
Another promo for ICAN like Hambini posted recently? Are they giving these away to any zootubers who will promote them? Noted the ad for Buycycle embedded in here. Just a note on them based on current experience - DON'T buy a new bike through Buycycle from a bike dealer UNLESS you want to wait weeks for it to show up, despite having your credit card billed right away. For some unknown reason they make the dealer ship the bike to them and they then ship it to you. Despite the dealer being not all that far from me (and in the same country) their scheme requires the bike be shipped to GERMANY to sit around for weeks before being shipped back into the country it came from and to me. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
I've had this ICAN Graro frameset sitting around for about three months waiting for the release of Wheeltops GEX kit. It's quite nice to ride off and on road. Will post a video about that soon.
Gravel frames don’t have that seatpost configuration, no way can you upgrade to a dropper or suspension option. And about that sticker UCI.,, please? What does UCI know about gravel? That’s the sport’s biggest joke! I’ve seen way better products coming from the east. This group has plenty of internal competitors.
@@stevenleffanueTo me that doesn't make any sense since a) modern phones have way better resolutions than 720p and b) those who are watching on a TV (like me) or laptop experience a rather bad image quality.
Considering the thumbnail title I was expecting a product that moved the game on, but instead was left underwhelmed. It's too heavy for starters, some iffy finishing, loose headset, etc. Also, dropped seatstays and a low rear triangle are looking dated, imo. Not the best clearance, esp at the front. This is a dated bike design. Nothing special for me, I would be looking elsewhere.
I've bought a bunch of stuff from ICAN over the years, including a road frame. I've never had any problems with any of it.
Just got some ICAN wheels wirh DT350s. Excellent service and top quality.
The ICAN frames get very good reviews. Especially considering the cost. Looking forward to seeing you review the wheeltop groupset.
Very impressive. I would buy one. Bob on fashion wise...
Excellent review. Thank u.
The brake hose hole at 13:00 scares me away from this frame set altogether . Some new road bicycles have brake hoses going around the steerer and not through it . A friend's new gravel bike has the brake hose coming out behind the left fork leg through a small opening . Tricky to replace without a draw wire though .
If the hose goes on the outside of a steerer , how does the hose get through the bottom bearing?
@@stevenleffanue Merida are using grooved steerers to achieve this .
So there are still 2 holes in the blade?
@@stevenleffanue I believe the steerer left leg junction is an implied hole and also a visible one behind the disc brake caliper but 3 inches above it . Specialized have also used this method .
So they still need to drill a hole to get the cable into the left blade , then another to exit?
@stevenleffanue Hi, do you know what the max chainring size is for running 1x? Cheers
Nice frameset!
The only thing that scares me about those frames is, as you showed in the video, the bottom bracket and brake mounts are not surfaced which would mean issues with installing and aligning the brakes and the potential for cracking BB. But it is just my impression and I wonder whether someone had an issue with it.
The bottom bracket has been bonded in after the frame was moulded . Bladders are used during initial baking . They are removed and the aluminium shell is then installed .
Great review, many thanks.
Hope to see OZ Cycle test out some 3d printed ti frames I recently saw advertised.
Hello,
Which handle ican integrated bar are you using? Seems like the flare on yours is more than what is on their site.
Thanks
Daniel
HGB01
I'm interested in this frame but have a question.. I travel with my bike at least a half dozen times a year and need to pack it in an Evoke bag.. Is the seatpost clamp sturdy enough to take the numerous tightening and loosenings of disassembling needed to remove the seat. (and have you had any issues withthat style loosening when ridden a lot?) and is there enough slack to take the handlebars off when packing for a trip without having to disconect brake cables? Seems almost no youtube bike reviewers pay attention to these two key considerations for those of us who fly with our bikes. Thanks for your reply in advance!
Wouldn't recommend this frameset for that,not unless you can pack the bike without removing the integrated bars.
I am getting one and plan to travel through europe with it i am not getting the integrated bar/stem. To pack it I just have to remove tape and levers, then unbolt bars from the stem.
Nice video thanks
Nice!! Thx
Are you going to do the full build on this. I just ordered the frame.
Yes. Just waiting for the groupset to arrive.
I am a big fan of ICAN products, I have a couple of their frames, and a half dozen sets of their wheels. Great products, but I'm not interested in these newer frames because there is no way I ever want a frame that requires you to run internal cables through the head tube. Way too much hassle for the minimal gains involved. In many cases this forces you to run an electrical groupset, something else I've tried and consider a minimal gain at substantial expense. They also no longer produce rim brake frames although they still supply rim brake wheels. I thin for the DIY crowd there should be some options.
1.5” bearing on headtube mean i can use a fox taper cast gravel fork here?
What's your view on the headset bearings now that you've ridden the bike? Is it a problem?
Headset and bearings are fine , no probs..
@stevenleffanue thanks mate. Ordered the same frame and groupset . Great vids 👌 really helpful 👍
Do you know what is the length of the seat post for this frame ?
300mm
Great interesting video paid or not :)
So oldschool bars and stems wont fit?
The bar and stem will fit. It's a matter of cabling. If you can manage to get the cables into the top headtube it will work.
Can the seat post clamp work with an oval carbon rail saddle?
NVM. You answered the question. Thanks
nice but I chose the yoeleo one
What size handlebar do you have?
42cm on drops , 100cm stem
@@stevenleffanue 👍
No rack mounts - drats. (call me old fashioned)
Waiting patiently for the Marin Headlands 2 to come back in stock - it ticks all my boxes: carbon WITH rack mounts, Apex/Eagle drivetrain (I wish this was more common!), and great price.
A bit on the heavy side for a gravel carbon frame 😉
no mention of the painted over brake mount holes 😅
The calliper mount holes are mentioned and shown. They were very good. If anything, a light scrape with emery paper or nail file.
@@stevenleffanue missed that bit, you're right, they were mentioned.
This is not a gravel bike. This is a road bike (with aggressive fit) with a wider clearance for tires. Propriatery headset, seatpost. Integrated stem with no chance to fit. Molded into carbon frame alu bsa shell - a very nice solution for galvanic corrosion! Shimano, move you a$$ and deliver finally a wireless groupset, because companies are making some $hit instead of a good frame to fit your idiotic di2...
Why oh why does a gravel frame has to have a aero seatpost … only makes the ride unnessecary harsh and hard to replace - oh and no dropper post option either…👎
I agree , the industry has gone mad about aero. Maybe for racing gravel, but even then, there are more important factors like handling and comfort.
Does it hurt?
Another promo for ICAN like Hambini posted recently? Are they giving these away to any zootubers who will promote them?
Noted the ad for Buycycle embedded in here. Just a note on them based on current experience - DON'T buy a new bike through Buycycle from a bike dealer UNLESS you want to wait weeks for it to show up, despite having your credit card billed right away. For some unknown reason they make the dealer ship the bike to them and they then ship it to you. Despite the dealer being not all that far from me (and in the same country) their scheme requires the bike be shipped to GERMANY to sit around for weeks before being shipped back into the country it came from and to me. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
I've had this ICAN Graro frameset sitting around for about three months waiting for the release of Wheeltops GEX kit. It's quite nice to ride off and on road. Will post a video about that soon.
Trace Velo 2.0 🥳✌️✌️✌️
More like Trace Velo is Oz Cycle 2.0 :)
Gravel frames don’t have that seatpost configuration, no way can you upgrade to a dropper or suspension option. And about that sticker UCI.,, please? What does UCI know about gravel? That’s the sport’s biggest joke! I’ve seen way better products coming from the east. This group has plenty of internal competitors.
I've got a gravel frame from ican. The brand and models (not all) is on the UCI approved list. You can take a look on the UCI website
May I encourage you to invest in a better camera? The image quality does not match the actual content.
You adjust the quality in 'settings'.
...your videos are 720p which is like 2003 standard.
I can do HD, but I figured most are watching on phones, so didn't matter
@@stevenleffanueTo me that doesn't make any sense since a) modern phones have way better resolutions than 720p and b) those who are watching on a TV (like me) or laptop experience a rather bad image quality.
OK. I will do 1080p from now on. Thanx for that 👍
Considering the thumbnail title I was expecting a product that moved the game on, but instead was left underwhelmed. It's too heavy for starters, some iffy finishing, loose headset, etc. Also, dropped seatstays and a low rear triangle are looking dated, imo. Not the best clearance, esp at the front. This is a dated bike design. Nothing special for me, I would be looking elsewhere.
I'm in search of a frame. What do you recommend looking at?
this bike a bit look like copycat of BH bike
ICAN produce carbon products for brand names so you could be right, BH buy from ICAN.
Why an aero frame for a gravel bike one-piece handle bar doesn't make any sense to me. 🤦🏻♂️ surely light weight and comfort should be top priority.
They're all going that way now because wireless gearing means only brake hoses need to be threaded through.
Because you have ex-world tour pro road riders racing gravel events, and they want an aero frameset than can accommodate wider tyres for off-road.
Shilling for a living isn't illegal but the pantomime should be.
A lot of viewers are not bicycle experts and do appreciate being carried through with explanations of basics. Thanx for your expert overview tho 👍
😂😂😂 robbery
Very low quality for the price
Guys don’t buy low quality frames
You risk your life
I have seen defects in bicycles at all price points . Who can you really trust ?
@@robertmcfadyen9156 The one inspected