This machine is made in USA I used to drive them but they were set up for lifting overseas containers The thing that was hard to get used to is the main lifting boom is right in the way of your site so you have to keep swaying you body back and forth on the seat to see where you are going.
Okay, so huge machine, absolutely enormous. But when something is that slow, it kind of has to take big loads at a time to not stop the workflow completely. Also probs to the truck driver for reversing the trailer in between that stack of stems like nobody's business.
At the Sierra Pacific Mill in Quincy,Ca, they still run 2 or 3 LeTourneaus 24/7. All electric drive, gear driven steer, lift, tilt, with hydraulic grab! Slow, but HUGE! They had a new Cat loader outfitted with a clamp, it couldn't do anything near what the LeTourneaus could.
Cool video, almost the exact log truck rigging we use here in western Alberta Canada. Most of the loads here are shorter, but the truck has a 14' bunk and an 11' on the trailer. Same Wagner stacker's we have at the mill here.
They're called a Wagner L120. Built for taking off an entire load of wood off a truck at once instead of pissing around with a log loader taking them off 2 or 3 at a time. The reason it's so slow is because the operator isn't too experienced. We use them all the time here in canada and they work great.
Its an old letourneau the mill in dinuba,ca had one in the 70s when i was young. my dad owned a 68 mack and my grand dad drove it. they hauled logs to dinuba alot back then.
comments about this guy working too slow should be deleted..i was a logger for nearly 2 decades what you are watching is not a slow operator he is smooth...lifting weight like that takes precise timing and balance..well done operator
yes these trucks are called stems trucks often weighing 100-120 tonnes,these are north island trucks running on private roads used by various logg trucks,the yellow machine is a wagner log loader can lift 85tonnes in a hit the truck is a tridrive kwhoppa with an extendable pole jinker similar set up to the canadians,by carting the whole length trees saves putting in skid sites all over the place,makes processing easier keeping the gear central etc cheers
@HelloRenauldo The L180 high lift is a really cool machine too =D. Its more unique than the regular 180's. I guess i dont really know where to start asking you questions about it, but you seem to not like it quite so much. How come? Would you prefer to run a wagner? They do seem like more complex machines to run since like you said they can lift bigger loads and their configuration is much different. Also, do you like working moving timber around more than earth? It seems more challenging
The thing picked up those logs with ridiculous ease. I also noticed that the logs go out a long ways. Here in the states they aren't allowed to be that long. I know things are different in New Zealand but do you guys have to have a special loading document which states you can transport logs that long as long as they don't hit the roads?
The Georgia Pacific Lumber Facilities are the only ones that i know of that uses them to unload trucks and i live in Virginia. Smurfit -Stone uses cranes which can take along time expecially when one (which they always do) breaks down.
truck driver is tipiwai and he's a good operator location is kaingaroa forest central north island of nz driver of wagner is kunikuni and just learning to operate but wagner is also slow as when hydraulic pump blew it was replaced with a cheaper weaker unit that will only lift 65 tonnes safely now not the 75 it was designed for
It takes a long time to set the machine in the right position for unloading. In that time you've unloaded 2 trucks with a smaller, more flexibele machine like an excavator with claw I think.
@Kakihara1979 Considering the time it took to load the truck, the weight of the trees, and the delicacy which is needed to not damage the truck or trailer, not slow at all. Infact this piece of equipment has speed up this process ten fold.
@Kakihara1979 I would love to go operate equipment somewhere else. Ive always read about Sweden and Denmark. History of Vikings hunting walrus like they do here in Alaska. What kind of loaders and excavators have you operated? For dirt work we mostly use Cat, Volvo, John Deere, New Holland and Kamatsu.
@MotoScootMech No biggie man. Id just say type in "Wagner L90" in the search bar and watch some of the other videos with other guys operating the machine, No its not the fastest machine and to be honest, the high lift stacker is faster, but these are the ones that pick up the heavy loads. We actually traded one of the older L90s we have for an L120. same machine, it just lifts a bigger load. Hopefully from the time that video was made, this guy has gained a little more experience with it
Northern BC must have very many fast and dangerous workers then :) Easy does it. Safe, Slow, Satisfying. I would hire him asap, for an example of a safe worker.
Not all forestry is like this in New Zealand.Most parts are similar to European operations with small skids and truck and trailers upto 30 tonnes legal payload.This is Kaingaroa Forest,largest man made forest in Southern Hemisphere and thats meant to be the largest Wagner in the Souhern Hemisphere lifting around 65 tonnes max.The log is scanned into the proccessing plant and supposedly the best cuts are obtained from the 'stems'
Da*n, that's the slowest unloader I ever saw? Btw, why is it oversized? Looks like it could take twice that load. Are there trucks carrying loads that big?
I used to haul logs in NZ when i was 19 years old. Trees must be heavier now, as i figure it is only about 25 tons of logs there! Piss poor planning of the yard , making all those turns! Need to fire the manager there!
Amazing looking log-grappling tractor & 4 axled tractor-truck,never seen anything like these 2 b4,LeTourneau & Mack respectivly didja say?Truly like some Transformers movie vehicle.The LTn tractor certainly as U said was from the 70s indeed,the engine of that yester era seemed so under-powered or under-capacity inside suc a behemoth,whining,straining & making too slow progress forward.Guess the operator has had to have lots of patience w/ it inching along.
This is taken in new zealand as a matter of fact to be precise it was taken at the webb log yard in kaingaroa where all the long stem trucks( like the won you see) get's unloaded by the way that wagner would be getting long in the tooth it was there when i was working in the bush carting log's for boogle's 10 years ago far out..... lol
1.20 looks like a vampire going in for the kill, i am actually kinda confused, if the front support for the logs turn with the head of the truck, how does it go around corners without crushing the logs? :- /
I too agree this does not look like 75 tons. We use a machine like this one to move steel slabs. Machine grabs onto the slab with a magnet. Loader looks so unwieldy.
@blackelk7373 Oh surley is i have been driving excavetors and wheel loaders for quite som time now and the rush quiets down pretty fast . But its really intresting to se the difrence betwen the countrys i know its diffrent types of logs and diffrent types of quality but still its pretty amazing would love to take a trip to the us some time to watch it in rela life
I operate a Wagner L90 and its way faster than this.. Although I think thats a L120 and is definitely bigger but I would say the operator is a bit inexperienced perhaps.
no, it's not a Western Star. you can clearly see a Kenworth badge on the bonnet. it's a Kenworth C501 tri-drive as far as I know... Cool video by the way:)
"next time Fred park the damn truck crossways!" that would save 90% of the time used to unload.
This machine is made in USA
I used to drive them but they were set up for lifting overseas containers
The thing that was hard to get used to is the main lifting boom is right in the way
of your site so you have to keep swaying you body back and forth on the seat
to see where you are going.
Okay, so huge machine, absolutely enormous. But when something is that slow, it kind of has to take big loads at a time to not stop the workflow completely. Also probs to the truck driver for reversing the trailer in between that stack of stems like nobody's business.
At the Sierra Pacific Mill in Quincy,Ca, they still run 2 or 3 LeTourneaus 24/7. All electric drive, gear driven steer, lift, tilt, with hydraulic grab! Slow, but HUGE! They had a new Cat loader outfitted with a clamp, it couldn't do anything near what the LeTourneaus could.
Cool video, almost the exact log truck rigging we use here in western Alberta Canada. Most of the loads here are shorter, but the truck has a 14' bunk and an 11' on the trailer. Same Wagner stacker's we have at the mill here.
wow that machine gots some fangs on it! look at the size of the hydraulics on there! pretty cool, thanks for sharing
Thanks for posting this. I never knew just how they removed the load/s.
Pretty awesome machine.
Thanks a million for this great clip
Fun to watch one work, I drove one many years ago in Mississippi occasionally
That thing is so powerful!!! 75 tons. damn. That's heavy
Nice truck! dinuba ca had a LeTourneau like this one and all it done all day long was unload trucks and drop the logs and then the 988's decked them.
Here in Maine, they get two trucks unloaded in the time it takes this thing to just get into position! An exercise in inefficiency.
That`s, what I want to my birthtday,
great machine, great toy, nice vid!!!
5* from Bavaria
That's an old Raygo or Mi-Jack. They have also used those for moving ocean cargo containers. It can probably lift 40 tonnes.
Pp dan
Nice video. I can't understand why people think this system is slow. Ok it doesnt move very fast in operation but it does the whole job very fast.
"Err boss, the logs are overhanging a bit.. Should I tie on a Hi-Viz vest?"
"She'll be right.."
that thing looks awesome with the jaws wide open
They're called a Wagner L120. Built for taking off an entire load of wood off a truck at once instead of pissing around with a log loader taking them off 2 or 3 at a time. The reason it's so slow is because the operator isn't too experienced. We use them all the time here in canada and they work great.
Kenworth C501 'Brute' tri drive - Australian designed model. A real workhorse!
the craw truck ,the front wheel look's COOl!
i dont know how to say it but i will sure rate it a '100000000/100'.
Its an old letourneau the mill in dinuba,ca had one in the 70s when i was young. my dad owned a 68 mack and my grand dad drove it. they hauled logs to dinuba alot back then.
I don't know if anyone noticed but that is one heavy-duty Kenworth there.
Check out the hub-reduction on the tri-drive rears. Shift some big weights.
3:00 Cute little RC Truck lol
comments about this guy working too slow should be deleted..i was a logger for nearly 2 decades what you are watching is not a slow operator he is smooth...lifting weight like that takes precise timing and balance..well done operator
yes these trucks are called stems trucks often weighing 100-120 tonnes,these are north island trucks running on private roads used by various logg trucks,the yellow machine is a wagner log loader can lift 85tonnes in a hit the truck is a tridrive kwhoppa with an extendable pole jinker similar set up to the canadians,by carting the whole length trees saves putting in skid sites all over the place,makes processing easier keeping the gear central etc cheers
Seems like they're running the boom cylinders on the powersteering pump !! revving hard, and still so slow !!!
Geeze it's like a hallowen machine... those claws are frekin HUGE
@HelloRenauldo The L180 high lift is a really cool machine too =D. Its more unique than the regular 180's. I guess i dont really know where to start asking you questions about it, but you seem to not like it quite so much. How come? Would you prefer to run a wagner? They do seem like more complex machines to run since like you said they can lift bigger loads and their configuration is much different. Also, do you like working moving timber around more than earth? It seems more challenging
The thing picked up those logs with ridiculous ease. I also noticed that the logs go out a long ways. Here in the states they aren't allowed to be that long. I know things are different in New Zealand but do you guys have to have a special loading document which states you can transport logs that long as long as they don't hit the roads?
The fart at 1:06 had me rolling
wow! is that the only one like that or were there more built?
it wasn't till the thing actually got next to the truck that you realize how big it actually is.
I agree!
The Georgia Pacific Lumber Facilities are the only ones that i know of that uses them to unload trucks and i live in Virginia. Smurfit -Stone uses cranes which can take along time expecially when one (which they always do) breaks down.
thats one evil looking contraption
that machine reminds me of them things of star trek troopers lo. great machine
Damn.. that truck looks like a toy in comparison to the other one =O
Wagner (Raygo) L120 I believe, Built in new zeeland. I operate a L90 Here in Australia =) Pretty impressive machines.
Barbarasales
what a monster
where is it?big unloadiing vehicle!
i have a question this is a three axles clark? with rediductions at wheel?
truck driver is tipiwai and he's a good operator location is kaingaroa forest central north island of nz driver of wagner is kunikuni and just learning to operate but wagner is also slow as when hydraulic pump blew it was replaced with a cheaper weaker unit that will only lift 65 tonnes safely now not the 75 it was designed for
Je ne
@tyeson85 the mount of the front logs can turn - the "turnig point" is alined with the trailer axes
;)
even after opposite day? im flattered ;)
@tyeson85 They arent all the way againts the headache rack. Just looks like it from this angle
three torque reduction axles ? i wat to know more about it thanks
@Pianoguy32 It's a sustainable forest, the pine trees are specifically grown on a 25-30 year harvest cycle.
Mad skills right there me thinks....
That makes the truck look like a toy, and an easy job.
Optimus Prime would be proud!
It takes a long time to set the machine in the right position for unloading. In that time you've unloaded 2 trucks with a smaller, more flexibele machine like an excavator with claw I think.
that loader definitely sounds like thats all it had,we run the same deal in canada maybe a little smaller
how does that truck turn when its loaded cuz the back log forks are on the trailer and the front log forks are on the truck itself how does it turn
@Kakihara1979 Considering the time it took to load the truck, the weight of the trees, and the delicacy which is needed to not damage the truck or trailer, not slow at all. Infact this piece of equipment has speed up this process ten fold.
In Canada we call `stems' logs, and the driver doesn't tke the binders off until the loader has the grapple securely around the load.
Bear39224
I worked at J.C. Neils, Libby, Mt. , 1966, it was called a Grass hopper.
If u make something kinda like a container carrier why do u make slower than a moped and make it need a footballfield to turn 90 degrees?
@Kakihara1979 I would love to go operate equipment somewhere else. Ive always read about Sweden and Denmark. History of Vikings hunting walrus like they do here in Alaska. What kind of loaders and excavators have you operated? For dirt work we mostly use Cat, Volvo, John Deere, New Holland and Kamatsu.
How many tons does the wood weight?
Nice to see this take place.Looks like a Wagner log loader
@MotoScootMech No biggie man. Id just say type in "Wagner L90" in the search bar and watch some of the other videos with other guys operating the machine, No its not the fastest machine and to be honest, the high lift stacker is faster, but these are the ones that pick up the heavy loads. We actually traded one of the older L90s we have for an L120. same machine, it just lifts a bigger load. Hopefully from the time that video was made, this guy has gained a little more experience with it
@canvids1 its Wagner L120 log loader i think.
Northern BC must have very many fast and dangerous workers then :)
Easy does it. Safe, Slow, Satisfying.
I would hire him asap, for an example of a safe worker.
what license they hold?
Can someone tell me specifically what that type of unloader is actually called?
Not all forestry is like this in New Zealand.Most parts are similar to European operations with small skids and truck and trailers upto 30 tonnes legal payload.This is Kaingaroa Forest,largest man made forest in Southern Hemisphere and thats meant to be the largest Wagner in the Souhern Hemisphere lifting around 65 tonnes max.The log is scanned into the proccessing plant and supposedly the best cuts are obtained from the 'stems'
Wow. Amazing.
Is this the drivers first time in the machine? how many 3 point turns does he need with acres of space to move around?
Da*n, that's the slowest unloader I ever saw?
Btw, why is it oversized? Looks like it could take twice that load. Are there trucks carrying loads that big?
This is the old way of doing it. Our mill uses a cat 988h that's half the size but can still unload a truck in one grapple load
amazing!!!!
where is this? How much is your load weight limit?
Que SUPERMAQUINA!!!! Donde fue filmado este video????
Waooow 😍😍 heli my friend
I used to haul logs in NZ when i was 19 years old.
Trees must be heavier now, as i figure it is only about 25 tons of logs there!
Piss poor planning of the yard , making all those turns! Need to fire the manager there!
If you can't make it good, make it big
@tyeson85 Trailer axles are on a pivot
A lot slower than a LeTourneau stacker...
that yellow machine dwarfs the semi. damn
He is in charge of uploading the logs when his vehicle arrive here.
He was hired five months ago, he now wants a promotion.
wea exactly in central north island is this?
Amazing looking log-grappling tractor & 4 axled tractor-truck,never seen anything like these 2 b4,LeTourneau & Mack respectivly didja say?Truly like some Transformers movie vehicle.The LTn tractor certainly as U said was from the 70s indeed,the engine of that yester era seemed so under-powered or under-capacity inside suc a behemoth,whining,straining & making too slow progress forward.Guess the operator has had to have lots of patience w/ it inching along.
Hatthen
Is that at Kinleth
that claw thing makes the truck look like a toy
ITS THE TRUCK'O'SROUS REX!
how long are those tree lengths???
This is taken in new zealand as a matter of fact to be precise it was taken at the webb log yard in kaingaroa where all the long stem trucks( like the won you see) get's unloaded by the way that wagner would be getting long in the tooth it was there when i was working in the bush carting log's for boogle's 10 years ago far out..... lol
1.20 looks like a vampire going in for the kill, i am actually kinda confused, if the front support for the logs turn with the head of the truck, how does it go around corners without crushing the logs? :- /
That's insane!!!!!
now that's a loader
I too agree this does not look like 75 tons.
We use a machine like this one to move steel slabs. Machine grabs onto the slab with a magnet. Loader looks so unwieldy.
Now that is unloading.
he called them stems in the description. lol thats pretty funny :)
Volvo on hyvä merkki🐺
@blackelk7373
Oh surley is i have been driving excavetors and wheel loaders for quite som time now and the rush quiets down pretty fast .
But its really intresting to se the difrence betwen the countrys i know its diffrent types of logs and diffrent types of quality but still its pretty amazing would love to take a trip to the us some time to watch it in rela life
wow, that log picker upper really makes the log truck really small. great wideo
I operate a Wagner L90 and its way faster than this.. Although I think thats a L120 and is definitely bigger but I would say the operator is a bit inexperienced perhaps.
how many horsepower?
how can the claw car see how he drive?
Wow! that was riveting...
no, it's not a Western Star. you can clearly see a Kenworth badge on the bonnet. it's a Kenworth C501 tri-drive as far as I know... Cool video by the way:)