An Interesting Rational Expression

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  • @tygrataps
    @tygrataps 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Polynomial division always makes me unease. Its so easy to get things wrong. To help keep things straight, I will add in 0 values for the missing exponents. So x^8+0x^7+0x^6 and so on. At least it helps me keep the columns straight. I hope this helps someone!

    • @iabervon
      @iabervon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I do it by drawing lines down the page, including the 0s, and only writing the coefficients. This makes it very similar to long division of integers written in decimal like I learned in 2nd grade, but it's somewhat easier because you don't need to worry about carrying or borrowing.

  • @yaser722
    @yaser722 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If we multiply nominator and denominator by (x-1) and then we have in nominator (x^9-1) + (x^5-x^8) + (x - x^4) , and x^3-1 in denominator. That can be cancelled simply

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That’s nice

  • @dwm1943
    @dwm1943 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was taught long division of polynomials many years ago, when I was about 13, so I did it that way, assuming it would divide, or the question would have been pointless, I suppose. Horrible, with so many opportunities to make errors! Your method 2 is so much more elegant, and fun...as you said.

  • @davidellis1079
    @davidellis1079 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Expanded synthetic division is a streamlined alternative to polynomial long division.

  • @Qermaq
    @Qermaq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My first impulse was to multiply top and bottom by (x - 1) to get a difference of cubes at the bottom. Boy was that out of the way! Wound up dividing like you did.

  • @lesnyk255
    @lesnyk255 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I never learned polynomial division while in school - it just wasn't offered. I sort of taught myself several years ago, but never used it, and have since forgotten the detailed "how". So I just assumed a 6th order polynomial (monic form with "1" as the constant), multiplied it by the denominator, & equated resulting coefficients. Lots of algebra, lots of mistakes, but eventually made my way to the correct solution. I really liked method 2 - I've got to get better at factoring, or at least in anticipating how completing the square (or cube) might help...

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nice! That’s the 3rd method! 😍

  • @davidtaran952
    @davidtaran952 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    we divide the polynomial (x^8+x^4+1) by the polynomial (x^2+x+1)
    we get (x^6-x^5+x^3-x+1)

  • @benjaminvatovez8823
    @benjaminvatovez8823 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We could use remarkable products for x²+x+1 = (x^3-1)/(x-1) and the same for x^8+x^4+1=((x^4)^3-1)/(x^4-1)=((x^3)^4-1)/(x^4-1)
    Then we develop a^4-1=(a-1)(a+1)(a²+1) for a being x and x^3.
    Then the fraction is reduced to ((x^3+1)(x^6+1))/((x+1)(x^2+1)). From there, let apply b^3+1=(b+1)(b^2-b+1) for b being x and x^2 and we get the answer.

  • @scottleung9587
    @scottleung9587 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I also used DoTS for my method.

  • @dan-florinchereches4892
    @dan-florinchereches4892 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My guess was to bring denominator to anicer form
    Either (x-1)(x^2+x+1)=x^3-1 or
    (X^+x+1)(X^2-x+1)=X^4+x^2+1
    The second expression looks very promising so the expected result is
    (X^4-x^2+1)(X^2-x+1) For the division
    I was lsitening to the video and you said x^4-x^2+1 is not factorable. Euler showed any quartic is factorable and in fact i am pretty sure the factora will have the form of
    (X^2+ax+1)(X^2-ax+1)= X^4+(-a^2+2)x^2+1=x^4-x^2+1 equating coefficients
    a^2=3 so it factors but not into anything very useful

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I should say not nicely factorable! 😁

  • @mystychief
    @mystychief 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In fact the expression is equal to f(x)/f(x^4) with f(x)=x²+x+1, but I could not use this to find a solution. :-)

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point

  • @bkkboy-cm3eb
    @bkkboy-cm3eb 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    (x⁸+x⁴+1)/(x²+x+1)=(x⁴+x²+1)(x⁴-x²+1)/(x²+x+1)
    =(x²+x+1)(x²-x+1)(x⁴-x²+1)/(x²+x+1)
    =(x²-x+1)(x⁴-x²+1)

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    (x^4+1-x^2)(x^2+1-x)