@@yamabushiwarrior996 the art itself doesn't work is what I'm saying. Bring that style to MMA and it's goodnight for you. If you want real self defense in real life situation anything besides this is good EVEN karate 😂
I spent 14 years in the Bujinkan(ToShin-Dos mother art) and can say pretty much 95% is shit. No better than Aikido for self defense. Now if people practice it for health or preserving a tradition(even though Bujinkans lineage is questionable) I'm all for it but to sell it as legitimate fighting I feel is not very responsible. As for my current art is Brazillian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai.
@@dicaeopolis8522 They don't, its a scam. I have trained with Hayes, its always faith based. The amount of money I wasted is in the thousands. It disturbs me that people continue to believe such things, without evidence.
I find the technique looks really cool, but I always question anything that takes 2+ movements against the attackers 1. As soon as your right hand parrys the jab the guy is already coming in with the cross while you're trying to now put your left hand on the jab. If you can parry the jab with your right then you can also shoot that same hand up to his eyes in a single forward motion.
thats a great side step move. a well trained boxer uses this footwork and sidestep to make another boxer miss and leaves that other boxer open for a quick combo or a powershot. beautiful movement like this can be see with boxers like Hector Macho Camacho in his prime.
@@yamabushiwarrior996 I don't need to eat dog shit to know it wouldn't taste very good. Ninjutsu is enthusiastic cosplay. And there's a reason why you will never see it being used outside of cooperative demonstrations with unresisting students.
Thanks for sharing! Great video, I remember being a part of this a few years ago. I didn’t know that someone had posted it. I can say from very personal experience that Stephen K. Hayes is one of the most highly skilled martial artists out there. Not fancy, not flashy, but very technically skilled.
This is a great concept. (Really). Can we see it when the second punch is actually directed at the defender? It's sent at chest level to the right (attacker's perspective) of the defender, which provided the momentum to complete the defense.
I know very little about ninja vanishing or disappearing and I'm no authority on the topic and I'm also not interested in wheatgerm or not things are historically accurate. What I will say is that Ninjutsu as it is currently referred to as for a self protection system does work but..it is up to the user, it does not come overnight and you won't be efficient for quite some time. Speaking from experience and having studied several disciplines of martial arts and self protection systems I can say it works yes. I've been in security and bar security for 15 years and in that time I've seen my share of violence in a club that holds 600 young athletic college/university kids. I hold a 1st Kyu ranking and by 7th Kyu was finding my training to be very effective. In an industry where hitting and injuring customers is deeply frowned upon I've needed other options to handle situations. I also might mention I'm not a very large man, in fact I'm a hundred and sixty pounds tops. Ninjutsu isn't always about combat either, there is a fair bit of psychology and how to deal with people without fighting as well. I realize there are many haters out there but the fact is you can't close your mind off to it as an option and just claim it's garbage based off an opinion with no real foundation asides just making the conscious decision to have that opinion. Its all in the student and it's all in the teacher, and no two are equally created, there are good and bad in both cases. Its just my input and experience. I also train in combatives like raw combat I've done lots of systema and even aikido and I can say they all have good and bad points, you take what you find applicable and you use it if it makes sense to you there really is no one art to rule them all it's not like the Lord of The rings lol I hope maybe this can be helpful to anyone out there conflicted with choosing a training type to immerse themselves in!
Beautifully explained.I say all the time it is about adapting to the situation at hand.People think MMA is the only real way to fight and it's not.If folks would just keep an open mind and have some patience and learn they would realize every art offers something special and useful!
He seems awesome but his students that ran most of the quest centers in new England seem to be running Larping schools without the cool stuff. Nothing they taught seemed applicable at all. But Stephens books have stuff that can really help you in self defense situations. Before I get totally flamed by the cult of Hayes; I'm a big fan and avid reader of his teachings, I just think the teachers in the New England area left a lot to be desired. Quite simply, I could've kick their butts. Probably all at the same time
I used to train under master Hayes and West Carrollton Ohio. Good memories. Sadly I don't have enough money to go back to training. And I kind of sucked at it. But yet again I was a little kid back when I trained.
There is a reason why he does these with his "students" .. cuz if he called on someone who wasn't gonna throw the rehearsed strikes...he'd fail so miserably
Though I'm not trained in this in any way, no dojos where I live, I've been fascinated by him since the 80s. It's not fake. The moves are presented in a "slow motion" manner as to not to seriously injure the other person. This is deadly stuff.
the classic ninja or samurai has gone, no one is going on the street with a Katana on their back or belt and shurikens. How ever, the ninja still exist as other "forms", they got adapted to modern days.
Chess is very violent. Grandmasters in chess are not self-proclaimed, it is a very long hard battle tested road. Only the very best students achieve the rank of Grand Master..
All martial arts must be applied to be of use. Even the v more effective scientific arts of the West need to new adapted to the individual. I've used things i learned rpm his books in real-world application
If Stephen Hayes has not figured out what a ninja is by now then the chances of him ever knowing must be beyond his understanding. Stephen Hayes will go to prison for his crimes against innocent people or war will be declared.
This dont work in a real fight, i was a practicioner of bukinjan and dont works in a street, now i practice MMA and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and just know i realize that the contact martial art teaches you fight, dont waste your time and money and this kind of style, if you want to learn protect you, you must learn to fight fighting, no more no less.
Depends how you train it and who your teacher is. I study in the Bujinkan and there are horrible teachers...a lot of them. But then again, I also like to pressure test and study grappling/ catchwrestling to make up for the obvious weaknesses the Bujinkan has. None of them will admit it, but it is a huge weakness.
Bro, if you want to know a stetic martial arts keep in Bujinkan, if you want to know self defence you must train a contact martial arts o sports contact, like a box or wrestling, belive me i fought in street thre times, and i tell you the bujinkan dont works in a real fight, why?, because the dont know fight, because never Fight¡
Why is it that ninjutsu students all have dad bods and look like they still live with their parents? Ninjutsu is one of the biggest scams in martial arts. If these guys went up against a boxer, Thai boxer, wrestler, BJJ fighter or MMA fighter, they’d be dispatched, quick.
Yeah, but all those other styles don't have the totally super awesome ninja moves like: 'Ninja Cling-to-Ceiling', 'Ninja-Vanish'(with smoke grenade), 'The Touch of Death', and of course, the always bad ass: 'Flat-Palmed-Double-Finger-Eye-Gouge-Block'!
The shuffle he started w isn't what he ended w..kinda looked like hes got 2 or 3 techniques in his head following the Dodge and he can't decided which to go w mid class...
I don't usually ask questions but that name: Miami University, has a familiar ring to it. If It's the same "institution",it was denounced by Accrediting organizations as a total fraud. They had Advanced Surfing 201 in a curriculum,probably a rumor. Whatever
Look people, u don’t need that bullshit... Take s few years of boxing, catch wresting & wing chin incorporate that with knives & stk will look like a fool...
Situps, crunches, situps, come on ! Why do they all go fat ? Middle aged men with blackbelts and pot bellies you see them everywhere,it,s not a good look.
I love how people who don't know a man can judge him from reports by other people. He took traditional ninjutsu and tailored it to modern day. So how many fights has he won and it won't work in modern day. Hmm how many fights have you been in? Have you trained with him? Maybe starting off with a punch or kick will put you in prison. A roundhouse to the head is not the most practical.
ChamorruWarrior this is the only white man to be trained in Japan by the original masters of ninjutsu. Nobody else has ever accomplished what he has. A little bit of respect is the minimum requirement from a nobody like you.
J. Harris. That’s absolute horseshit. Ninjitsu really was used by ninja in feudal japan. Ninjitsu is made up of 6 different kinds of jujistu and 3 other martial arts. Most ninja were samurai, hence why ninjitsu has a lot of jujitsu influence. Who told you ninjitsu is a western concept?
@@MasterFreezer87 Yes, he trained in Japan…great. What's his competition record? How has he tested his "skills" practically? I see nothing but a bunch of people being extremely cooperative as he demonstrates. I've seen his "Judo" and it's not very good. This is Marketing and Advertising…I'd have this joker on the mat tapping in less than a minute.
He's a heck of a business man, I'll give him that. As a young teen in the 80's I bought all of his books.
Thats all he is. He sells horse shit for a living
@@davidfoster8217
That is interesting. Have you ever experienced working with him personally to make such an emphatic statement?
@@yamabushiwarrior996 the art itself doesn't work is what I'm saying. Bring that style to MMA and it's goodnight for you. If you want real self defense in real life situation anything besides this is good EVEN karate 😂
@@davidfoster8217
Okay, so I'll take that as a no to my question. Hey! 2nd question; what art or arts do you practice ?
I spent 14 years in the Bujinkan(ToShin-Dos mother art) and can say pretty much 95% is shit. No better than Aikido for self defense. Now if people practice it for health or preserving a tradition(even though Bujinkans lineage is questionable) I'm all for it but to sell it as legitimate fighting I feel is not very responsible. As for my current art is Brazillian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai.
He's absolutely correct at 02:54
In a fight, don't go straight back.
Shift from left and right.
If I ever get attacked in slow motion, I will use these teachings.
Every martial art I have taken shows technique at a slower pace and then sparring is at a faster pace with resistance.
@@dicaeopolis8522 Its always at a slower pace, and doesn't work.
I didn't know if they ever went full speed full power or not.
@@dicaeopolis8522 They don't, its a scam. I have trained with Hayes, its always faith based. The amount of money I wasted is in the thousands. It disturbs me that people continue to believe such things, without evidence.
I find the technique looks really cool, but I always question anything that takes 2+ movements against the attackers 1. As soon as your right hand parrys the jab the guy is already coming in with the cross while you're trying to now put your left hand on the jab. If you can parry the jab with your right then you can also shoot that same hand up to his eyes in a single forward motion.
thats a great side step move. a well trained boxer uses this footwork and sidestep to make another boxer miss and leaves that other boxer open for a quick combo or a powershot. beautiful movement like this can be see with boxers like Hector Macho Camacho in his prime.
As someone who has coached boxing and taught real martial arts, I can tell you it’s horseshit.
@@georgekondylis6723
That is interesting, have you ever experienced working with him personally to make just an emphatic statement?
Yamabushi Warrior
Nope.
@@georgekondylis6723
Okay, I understand.
@@yamabushiwarrior996 I don't need to eat dog shit to know it wouldn't taste very good.
Ninjutsu is enthusiastic cosplay. And there's a reason why you will never see it being used outside of cooperative demonstrations with unresisting students.
Thanks for sharing! Great video, I remember being a part of this a few years ago. I didn’t know that someone had posted it. I can say from very personal experience that Stephen K. Hayes is one of the most highly skilled martial artists out there. Not fancy, not flashy, but very technically skilled.
lol
ninja vanishing defense..😂😂😂😂😂
What a joke and that gold belt lmao But ppl love to get scammed and believe they will be a ninja... The man cannot even trow a punch for god sake...
This is a great concept. (Really). Can we see it when the second punch is actually directed at the defender? It's sent at chest level to the right (attacker's perspective) of the defender, which provided the momentum to complete the defense.
In his formidable days Stephen was the body guard to the Dali Lama. He is no phony.
This. No reference to "this kind" of ninja existed prior to some very early 20th century japanese pulp stories
Robert Schroeder uhmm another legendary warrior criticism.... I guess you are an expert in such matter.....
Do you have photos to prove your claim?
Super Titanium look it up
@@supertitanium3051 there are photos of him doing just that
I know very little about ninja vanishing or disappearing and I'm no authority on the topic and I'm also not interested in wheatgerm or not things are historically accurate. What I will say is that Ninjutsu as it is currently referred to as for a self protection system does work but..it is up to the user, it does not come overnight and you won't be efficient for quite some time. Speaking from experience and having studied several disciplines of martial arts and self protection systems I can say it works yes. I've been in security and bar security for 15 years and in that time I've seen my share of violence in a club that holds 600 young athletic college/university kids. I hold a 1st Kyu ranking and by 7th Kyu was finding my training to be very effective. In an industry where hitting and injuring customers is deeply frowned upon I've needed other options to handle situations. I also might mention I'm not a very large man, in fact I'm a hundred and sixty pounds tops. Ninjutsu isn't always about combat either, there is a fair bit of psychology and how to deal with people without fighting as well. I realize there are many haters out there but the fact is you can't close your mind off to it as an option and just claim it's garbage based off an opinion with no real foundation asides just making the conscious decision to have that opinion. Its all in the student and it's all in the teacher, and no two are equally created, there are good and bad in both cases. Its just my input and experience. I also train in combatives like raw combat I've done lots of systema and even aikido and I can say they all have good and bad points, you take what you find applicable and you use it if it makes sense to you there really is no one art to rule them all it's not like the Lord of The rings lol I hope maybe this can be helpful to anyone out there conflicted with choosing a training type to immerse themselves in!
Beautifully explained.I say all the time it is about adapting to the situation at hand.People think MMA is the only real way to fight and it's not.If folks would just keep an open mind and have some patience and learn they would realize every art offers something special and useful!
He moves great
Santa just gave that dude, The Business. LOL
He seems awesome but his students that ran most of the quest centers in new England seem to be running Larping schools without the cool stuff. Nothing they taught seemed applicable at all. But Stephens books have stuff that can really help you in self defense situations. Before I get totally flamed by the cult of Hayes; I'm a big fan and avid reader of his teachings, I just think the teachers in the New England area left a lot to be desired. Quite simply, I could've kick their butts. Probably all at the same time
Every kind of competitive industry is like this. Not only Hollywood. Competition is evil
I used to train under master Hayes and West Carrollton Ohio. Good memories. Sadly I don't have enough money to go back to training. And I kind of sucked at it. But yet again I was a little kid back when I trained.
Hyperion I don't have enough money to train either I know exactly how you feel and it's a shame that martial arts these days are all about the money
Robert Liberty- You can thank good old Steven for that
@D'lish Donut I really appreciate your concern that means a lot
Eazy Thief media. How much is it now
If you wanna learn REAL self defense..don't go to this giy..lol
2022 and people still belive the nonsense this guy spews??
Like Hayes way of teaching shame i never got to a seminar
There is a reason why he does these with his "students" .. cuz if he called on someone who wasn't gonna throw the rehearsed strikes...he'd fail so miserably
Watch Mike Tyson doing footwork where he does this box stepping type of movement. It's very similar.
Though I'm not trained in this in any way, no dojos where I live, I've been fascinated by him since the 80s. It's not fake. The moves are presented in a "slow motion" manner as to not to seriously injure the other person. This is deadly stuff.
Hahahaha and Jiminy cricket is real
Also so people can see what going on.
If that’s a ninja it’s no wonder there not around anymore. They all got their asses beat and changed occupation. lol
They’re
@@Lv2flair you had it right the first time
No dumbass. It a demonstration. Means it pre-planned. Also he going slow so you can see what the fuck is going on
the classic ninja or samurai has gone, no one is going on the street with a Katana on their back or belt and shurikens. How ever, the ninja still exist as other "forms", they got adapted to modern days.
As you see, martial arts is like chess, a bit at least.
Chess is very violent.
Grandmasters in chess are not self-proclaimed, it is a very long hard battle tested road. Only the very best students achieve the rank of Grand Master..
This guy would get his ass kicked , if he used this in real life. Lol
Awesome 😀😎😃🎮
These guys will NEVER use demonstrators who don't know what he's gonna do.. ITS ALL BULLSHIT
No way dude. This guy is a legit ninja master!
All martial arts must be applied to be of use. Even the v more effective scientific arts of the West need to new adapted to the individual. I've used things i learned rpm his books in real-world application
I'd like to see these haters try and mug him.
Lmao
His bs would not work in real life.
all these "masters" talk to much...its always about the demo, the lecture...etc..etc..
Nice belt...he's a humble one, huh?!?
Actually he is
Fred Hugard ...nice belly for a ninja...
@@danieln.9233 Doesn't affect his ability any
is a fake one is a ninja tactic so the opponent underrates him in reality under the fake belly he has a six pack
what is stephen K hayes doing now
your mom
Is that a gold belt?
ballisticbread yes
If Stephen Hayes has not figured out what a ninja is by now then the chances of him ever knowing must be beyond his understanding. Stephen Hayes will go to prison for his crimes against innocent people or war will be declared.
Let's see the criminal vanish when the time comes.
This dont work in a real fight, i was a practicioner of bukinjan and dont works in a street, now i practice MMA and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and just know i realize that the contact martial art teaches you fight, dont waste your time and money and this kind of style, if you want to learn protect you, you must learn to fight fighting, no more no less.
Thats right
Depends how you train it and who your teacher is. I study in the Bujinkan and there are horrible teachers...a lot of them. But then again, I also like to pressure test and study grappling/ catchwrestling to make up for the obvious weaknesses the Bujinkan has. None of them will admit it, but it is a huge weakness.
Bro, if you want to know a stetic martial arts keep in Bujinkan, if you want to know self defence you must train a contact martial arts o sports contact, like a box or wrestling, belive me i fought in street thre times, and i tell you the bujinkan dont works in a real fight, why?, because the dont know fight, because never Fight¡
bullshido
Ninja master needs to go carb-free...
Hey! He's like Steven Seagal...Wondergut
Why is it that ninjutsu students all have dad bods and look like they still live with their parents?
Ninjutsu is one of the biggest scams in martial arts. If these guys went up against a boxer, Thai boxer, wrestler, BJJ fighter or MMA fighter, they’d be dispatched, quick.
Yeah, but all those other styles don't have the totally super awesome ninja moves like: 'Ninja Cling-to-Ceiling', 'Ninja-Vanish'(with smoke grenade), 'The Touch of Death', and of course, the always bad ass: 'Flat-Palmed-Double-Finger-Eye-Gouge-Block'!
Do boxers and wrestlers get to carry grappling hooks around with them? I didn't think so.
The shuffle he started w isn't what he ended w..kinda looked like hes got 2 or 3 techniques in his head following the Dodge and he can't decided which to go w mid class...
It almost like his mind went bouncing from dodge-footwork, to throw and then into an arm lock.
I don't usually ask questions but that name: Miami University, has a familiar ring to it.
If It's the same "institution",it was denounced by Accrediting organizations as a total fraud. They had Advanced Surfing 201 in a curriculum,probably a rumor. Whatever
3:06 so an opponent is going to literaly give you his arm hahaha dear god try that against someone trained.
It's a fucking demonstration genius. And go find this old man and kick his ass for selling false hope since you think you know evetything
@@stingscorpio9350 A demonstration of bullshit is still bullshit so go back to practicing in your pyjamas in front of the mirror hero.
@@buzpower2582 Watch yo mouth nigga
@@stingscorpio9350 looool watch you dont cut yourself on your edge you badass.
@@buzpower2582 Dude when don't just stop talking to me
Play it in slow motion its so fake.
Stephen that ain’t what Hatsumi taught you 🤔
So what? He is not with Hatsumi anymore.
How terrible if this is actually believed to work.
Look people, u don’t need that bullshit... Take s few years of boxing, catch wresting & wing chin incorporate that with knives & stk will look like a fool...
Modern is NOT Ninjutsu!!!
Situps, crunches, situps, come on ! Why do they all go fat ? Middle aged men with blackbelts and pot bellies you see them everywhere,it,s not a good look.
I love how people who don't know a man can judge him from reports by other people. He took traditional ninjutsu and tailored it to modern day.
So how many fights has he won and it won't work in modern day. Hmm how many fights have you been in? Have you trained with him? Maybe starting off with a punch or kick will put you in prison. A roundhouse to the head is not the most practical.
You obviously don't know what the fuck your talking about. Every question you asked you don't even know.
dude wouldn't have lasted a minute with the old Gracie challenge in the 80s. He wasn't a fighter then and he isn't one now.
Looks like he took very beginner level Japanese Jujitsu and markets it as something else to me.
MR.HAYES ,GET LOST WITH YOUR B.S.
This is a load of barnacles... >.>
ChamorruWarrior this is the only white man to be trained in Japan by the original masters of ninjutsu. Nobody else has ever accomplished what he has. A little bit of respect is the minimum requirement from a nobody like you.
it isnt.. its actual real sidestep used in real fighting.
J. Harris. That’s absolute horseshit. Ninjitsu really was used by ninja in feudal japan. Ninjitsu is made up of 6 different kinds of jujistu and 3 other martial arts. Most ninja were samurai, hence why ninjitsu has a lot of jujitsu influence. Who told you ninjitsu is a western concept?
@@MasterFreezer87 Yes, he trained in Japan…great. What's his competition record? How has he tested his "skills" practically? I see nothing but a bunch of people being extremely cooperative as he demonstrates. I've seen his "Judo" and it's not very good. This is Marketing and Advertising…I'd have this joker on the mat tapping in less than a minute.
Sad.
I don't know rick, after watching georgie dillman, i just dont belive in this karate preachers anymore!!
I practice Glok fo yo azz it's easy to learn and very deadly
Bet you shoot holding the gun sideways..l