For the kids out there... when that scumbag robert irsay moved the team from Baltimore to indy he had a fleet of mayflower trucks come in the middle of the night to move the team's equipment
This is one of your best videos and that's saying a lot because all of your videos are awesome! I loved the yelling at Frank Cush for not calling timeout. Love the emotions. Keep up the phenomenal work!
@@breguera77 Same Tracy Porter who picked off the Brett Favre pass late in the 2009 NFC Championship, causing Paul Allen to rant "this is not Detroit man, this is the Super Bowl!"
The Colts rolled out a murderers row of incompetent coaches from 80-86. Mike McCormack, Frank Kush, Hal Hunter, & Rod Dowhower combined to go an incredible 25-76-1. Ron Meyer was Vince Lombardi compared to those guys. I never knew about the end of this game. I knew they blew the lead but being in Maryland, we rarely got Colts games here (for obvious reasons). This is legitimately one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in terms of clock management & his reasoning for it was somehow worse. Just insane. Thanks for sharing this. This is by far the best researched & most interesting NFL channel on You Tube & it's not close. Keep up the good work my man, you are killing it 👍🏻
That's even while Meyer coached the Colts to the playoffs in the strike-marred '87 season and never got more than 9 wins in any season there. They couldn't sustain any success after the move to Indy until Tony Dungy got there and that wasn't until 2002.
In '84 I'm not sure anybody except Colts and Cards fans knew about the end of this game. Whereas today the media literally would never shut up about it.
The time between Ted Marchibroda's first and second stint as Colts head coach was a dark time in Colts history. One winning season/playoff birth in 14 seasons.
There's a fantastic book by Madden called "One Knee Equals Two Feet" in which he explains his philosophy on using timeouts when he was coaching. It's fantastic, and one of the true mysteries of life to me is how, in the NFL, good clock management is the exception rather than the rule, and it's been that way forever.
I agree, it's an awesome book; I purchased that for my mom along with "Snake" (Ken stabler & Joe Namath were her favorite QB's) & the book on on the 1970s Raiders, "Badasses" (yeah, my mom in general was really balls-to-the- wall 💙). I think Madden knew what he was doing in a big way, and really was a great coaching mind.
@@gluserty His chapter on clock management is something that always resonated with me. It's very simple and easy to understand, while backed up with ironclad logic.
@@SECRETARIATguy224 It sure is, and I have no idea why other coaches struggle with the concept of time management (Jimmy Johnson did a similar thing that Kush did when Dallas played Washington at home in 1991, just letting the clock run with timeouts in his pocket).
@@gluserty It boggles my mind how in the NFL it's the rare exception to see a team that properly conserves and uses their timeouts, particularly in the 2nd half.
How about a Les Steckel video ... I heard some great stories. Steckel blew a gasket when he saw Dave Casper sitting on his helmet during a TC practice. Steckel screamed at Casper informing him that his helmet was to stay on at all times. After practice Casper took a shower with his helmet on, went to the team dinner with his helmet on, showed up to the team meeting with his helmet on, and the following morning showed up to breakfast wearing his helmet. This was the beginning of the end for Steckel. He lost his team before the regular season started.
Sometimes you read and watch videos of decisions coaches make and do not make and you shake your head and ask "were they even paying attention to what was going on?" This was really one of those moments. Always amazing how you find these videos and what a great analysis you do
This is the kind of decision far leftists would defend by calling anybody who questioned it stupid and evil, while offering no justification for why it wasn't dumb.
This unofficial JaguarGator9 Historian will remind you all that Bud Grant did the exact same thing Frank Kush did in a 1978 game against the Seattle Seahawks. And also, I busted out laughing, not only when you blew a gasket on Frank Kush's play clock strategy, but when the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme played when Neil O'Donoghue made that Field Goal.
The dying days of the era when coaches could physically abuse their players and not only get away with it, but be praised for it. By the parents of the players!
Coaches of elite college teams rarely have to coach, they almost never have to game plan against a team close to their caliber. In the NFL you have to do this virtually every week.
@@coryshannon3815 My alma mater beat Petrino's current team (which I had no idea he was coaching) in the FBS playoffs a few weeks ago, and IDK what I was happier about, them winning or Petrino losing!
We can also talk about the play-calling -- up 2 late in the game - and running 2 pass plays and throwing it to a receiver near the sideline. What a way to run out the clock, or at least put pressure on the defense.
1:50, you got it backward. Both lost in week 1 and won in week 2. The Colts lost to the Jets at home in week 1 while the Cards lost @ GB(thanks to a missed extra point by O'Donahue). And ironically enough, Cards offensive coordinator Rod Dowhower would replace Kush as Colts head coach then a few season later the Cards would move out west and play in Frank Kush field at Sun Devil Stadium.
Frank Kush is worse than the NFL coaching equivalent of doing nothing but spiking the ball into the ground on every single play. Definite 0.0 right there. This video is yet another example of why I just hyped this channel to one of my buddies last night at the bar. I showed yesterday's video about the Terry Bradshaw/Jimmy Johnson game broadcast to him. I think I might have made JG9 another fan! Something tells me Kush already checked out by that point.
If a coach did this sort of thing today, he'd literally never live it down. Back then, I had no idea this even happened until just now. The media at the time either never said a word about it or made a mild commotion for a day or so before moving on.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, I wasn't following the NFL closely back then. I certainly wouldn't have remembered it either way. But yeah, if that happened today? It'd be all over social media, broadcast media, print media, and Kush would likely have been run out of town the next day.
His reaction when they don’t take the timeout before the Cards kick the FG is the same one I had when BB didn’t call a timeout right before the Malcolm Butler interception.
@@CTubeMan The 1980s, Robert Irsay-owned Colts were a whole new level of suckage. From a defense that allowed 533 points in 1981 to the John Elway debacle and the move to Indianapolis, it was not a proud era for that franchise. Jim Irsay has had his share of bad moments, but he brought a Super Bowl Championship to Indy and has overall been a much less sucky owner than his dad.
@@82dorrin Yeah, well, the City of Baltimore, and/or, the State of Maryland, gave him a trash stadium, and, tried to seize the team by, Eminent Domain, what he did sucked, but, you, really, can't root, for, either, side, here, at all.
You need to do a deep dive into "The Fumble" as Giants fans call that November 1978 play at the Meadowlands. Call it "the dumbest end of the game call in history".
@@andrewpadaetz5549 Almost is right. JG9 went with a family-friendly G-rated rant, while UrinatingTree would have gone nuts with.....well, you know the drill. (Hint: @#&$&@&!!)
@@bobscott2429 and JG9 just appeared with Tree and Five Points Vids on their Dumpster Fire this past Tuesday to discuss an even Dumber Decision among other things.
Maybe there was a player on the Colts with huge gambling debts who was approached by a bookie who "encouraged" Indy to lose that game. Any idea who that might be?
Coaches used to be so bad at this in general. Maybe not this bad but just specifically with the lead even when other team clearly gonna score not either letting them score until recently and not taking timeouts
Let's face it. The Indianapolis Colts have ALWAYS been LOWER than a 39.6. Whether they were in Baltimore OR Indianapolis. The Colts would be BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!
It seemed like at the end, Kush was trying to get fired. His offensive strategy was: Run Randy McMillan left, run Randy McMillan right, run Randy McMillan on 3rd and 20.
I had to check to make sure this was a video about 1995 when there were so many Urban Meyer shots in the intro. I thought I'd somehow fast forwarded by accident or something.
Eberflus just put Kush to shame when it comes to clock management lol. But I see you already have a video about it.👍The Bears game made me instantly remember this video.
Marvin Lewis didn't go, winless, but, he, never, won, a, Playoff Game, lasted, one, season, longer, than, HOFer, Bill Cowher, and, went out on his own terms, if there's a sane explanation, for, that, I'd, really, love, to hear it.
@@matthewdaley746 ...I think letting a guy leave on his own terms who had at least some success the way Marvin did is way more understandable than letting a first year HC who goes winless stay lol; it's not a mystery as to why an owner would keep a coach who's consistently in the playoff picture the way Cincinnati was in the first half of the 2010s and just because he never won a playoff game doesn't put him in the same category as a coach who went winless and then had no winning seasons after that. Not even remotely comparable situations.
@@Rockhound6165 a winless season is a winless season; has there ever been another example of a team keeping a HC after a year of failing to win a game that wasn't an expansion team? Like it was obvious by the time Kush quit that it wasn't working so it's not like a Tom Landry situation; even the Browns were smart enough to dump Hue Jackson after two seasons and they gave Kush one more season than that.
And after watching the kick it was like karma wouldn't let him miss it. The snap was terrible and the hold didn't look like he recovered it but it went right down the middle like our creator said oh no you can't win for this stupidity.
The whole thing would start, when they let the Raiders off of the hook in, "Ghost, To, The, Post," Karma, caught up, with, them the week, after, though, it did.
Coincidentally that was from 1971, when Robert Irsay traded the LA Rams to Carol Rosenblum, to 1997, when he died. The only sustained success we had during that time were three straight AFC east titles in the mid 70's and two wild card berths in the mid 90's. Shocker of shock's, four of those five playoff appearances, including the magical trip to the 95' AFC championship game, came when Ted Marchibroda was head coach.
Another dumb Cardinals' decision: in 1986, the Cardinals, under Head Coach Gene Stallings, were trailing 16-10 in their season opener against the Rams. Late in the 4th Quarter, they drove down inside the 10-yard line, and got a first down on a run by Stump Mitchell. But he stayed in bounds in the middle of the field and the clock ran out before the Cards could run another play. Gene Stallings' explanation for why he ran instead of throwing a sideline pass was that he thought the clock stopped after a first down. In College Football, yes. In the NFL, no.
I've been following the NFL for over 40 years and I've never heard of this.. What the hell was Kush thinking? Or maybe he wasn't.Youd figure one of the assistant coaches would have said something to him.This is crazy 😂
Too bad you didn’t have audio of the announcers. It would be interesting to hear their take on what was going on, on the field during the Cards last possession.
Boy, these Colts were tough to like: incompetent, just moved from a city that loved them, and had a coach who was unlikeable. This edition of the Cardinals though, still probably one of their top ten teams of all-time, right?
In 1984 the head coaches were not permitted to call time outs only the players could. In 2004 and beyond head coaches were allowed to call time outs as well as the players. The real question was: why didn't the Colts defense stop the clock?
I agree. Kush could have. It would have gave the colts plenty of time to set up a potential game winning drive. If the Cardinals took a one point lead after a field goal.
That 84 Cardinals team was pretty good. I'm surprised the Colts then hung with them. The Cardinals lost the NFC East that year by a last second field goal kick and with Neil Lomax and Roy Green and OJ Anderson I was shocked how fast they sucked in years after that.
Yeah, the Cards sucked the first 10 seasons in Phoenix until that Cinderella season they had where they beat the Cowboys in the playoffs. Factors included (but not limited to): heavy travel and jet lag due to remaining in the NFC East until 2002 realignment; Not having a climate-controlled air-conditioned stadium as promised (but until 18 years later in 2006); they were in the desert for crying out loud; plus, a string of crappy coaches and a tightwad owner.
@@lakebay972 As a kid in the 80s who was a Redskins fan when they were good I still hate the Cardinals who were the division punching bag left. At some point I realized oh crap my team is now the punching bag. And for decades. I am still surprised Bidwill left St Louis. It compared to Sun Devil was a gorgeous stadium vs a college stadium with bench seats. Arizona eventually got it right with the new stadium but it's odd thinking back to him not demanding the new stadium from day 1 to do the move. And for many years due to the heat they would play the first 2 or 3 games on the road which to your point didn't help get them a good start either.
@@willmarkley4237 The Cowboys we’re also a punching bag in the ‘80s. Tom Landry was past his prime. His would-be replacement Gene Stallings went to STL/PHX. I’m not surprised at all Bidwell moved. St Louis is simply not a football city. Phoenix had been begging for an NFL franchise throughout the ‘70s and ‘80s. They were expansion snubbed simply because of that lack of climate air stadium which required a roof plus hydrated fresh grass. If you look at the architecture of Cardinals’ Stadium, it’s like a matchbox so that the field can survive the desert heat and be playable. Another reason why it took so long was that the City government back then didn’t believe in urban development. They didn’t want Phoenix to become another Los Angeles; but that’s too late considering it’s now the 5th largest city in the US.
@@willmarkley4237 Yes, that’s why the Colts, Eagles and Saints didn’t move and why Phoenix was snubbed for an expansion team. The same thing applied in the MLB. The only way Phoenix would have a team would be if it guaranteed a climate-controlled air-conditioned stadium. Las Vegas was usually overlooked as well. Same applies to them for an expansion or existing team. Same reason why the Rangers ended up staying in D/FW. I’ve been to the new ballpark in Arlington. Looks like a mortgage lending company on outside; but inside, it’s beautiful and state-of-the-art. Stays 72 degrees all season long.
I heard one of the reasons John Elway refused to play for the Colts was because Frank Kush fired his father, Jack, from his assistant coach job. Also, I love the return of the upbeat music! But I think it riled you up in your narration more than I’ve heard you riled up before. And you weren’t even talking about verbal contracts here! But you were talking about stupidity surrounding a Cardinals kick, so I guess that’s consistent with some of your past videos. The rest of you may be wondering (imagine this in JG9’s voice), WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Well, this unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following that caused you to blow a gasket: 1. The thought process behind the decision of Cardinals Coach Bob Hollway to execute an onside kick in a game against the Chargers in 1971. 2. Willie Richardson not showing up with the Steelers after being traded to them because of a dispute over a verbal contract in 1970. 3. Jayne Kennedy getting let go from the NFL Today in 1980 after CBS gave her a verbal agreement to do a Real People spinoff on NBC.
@@matthewdaley746 ...please tell me you're joking, because a 43-42 record in the regular season and being the head coach behind one of the most infamously bad choke jobs in NFL history doesn't seem like "playing to win" to me
@@WolfDB I think you misunderstood me, Dan Quinn didn't play to, win, Doug Pederson, not, only, did, he, wasn't, stupid enough to think Bill Belichick wouldn't tape his practices, so, his trick play, was, rehearsed in a ballroom, and, it worked, I edited my posts.
CBS also had Bears/Packers in the early window and I think that went to most of the US aside from early-window NBC markets, so that likely lowered the level of embarrassment for Kush. Regardless of the telecasts' distribution, Kush should've known better. He should've called those timeouts to give his offense a chance if Neil O'Donoghue made that FG. I don't blame John Elway for not wanting to play for him. At least Dan Reeves was nowhere near as bad for him as Kush would've been.
This was a no decision not a bad decision. How did he not use his TO's on second down and third down too? And St. Louis almost screwed up too when they threw the ball on third down. Why would you ever throw a pass in that situation? Lucky for them they didn't throw a pick.
And blame his assistants too. How many times do you see assistants run over to tell the coach to call a time out. He failed and his staff failed with him.
Just laughing my head off about you ranting about time management in a 38-year-old game. Fantastic
I've been watching this channel for a number of months now; this has to be my favorite "Dumb Decisions" lead-in ever.
Loved it when you said that the clock just kept rolling like a Mayflower truck! Excellent reference.
I like the Tracy Porter one as well.
Based on that, could we say that Urban Meyer crashed like a Swift truck?
For the kids out there... when that scumbag robert irsay moved the team from Baltimore to indy he had a fleet of mayflower trucks come in the middle of the night to move the team's equipment
This is one of your best videos and that's saying a lot because all of your videos are awesome! I loved the yelling at Frank Cush for not calling timeout. Love the emotions. Keep up the phenomenal work!
It’s like watching Barry yell at any player or team for giving Tom Brady a free pass.
“This would be the only touchdown in Colts history involving a man named Tracy Porter”. Who caught that Super Bowl reference?
I was initially confused because I thought “didn’t he play for the saints though?” Only for the realization kick in a second later lmao
@@breguera77 Same Tracy Porter who picked off the Brett Favre pass late in the 2009 NFC Championship, causing Paul Allen to rant "this is not Detroit man, this is the Super Bowl!"
The Colts rolled out a murderers row of incompetent coaches from 80-86. Mike McCormack, Frank Kush, Hal Hunter, & Rod Dowhower combined to go an incredible
25-76-1. Ron Meyer was Vince Lombardi compared to those guys. I never knew about the end of this game. I knew they blew the lead but being in Maryland, we rarely got Colts games here (for obvious reasons). This is legitimately one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in terms of clock management & his reasoning for it was somehow worse. Just insane. Thanks for sharing this. This is by far the best researched & most interesting NFL channel on You Tube & it's not close. Keep up the good work my man, you are killing it 👍🏻
Amen
That's even while Meyer coached the Colts to the playoffs in the strike-marred '87 season and never got more than 9 wins in any season there. They couldn't sustain any success after the move to Indy until Tony Dungy got there and that wasn't until 2002.
In '84 I'm not sure anybody except Colts and Cards fans knew about the end of this game. Whereas today the media literally would never shut up about it.
@@DolFan316 fair point
The time between Ted Marchibroda's first and second stint as Colts head coach was a dark time in Colts history. One winning season/playoff birth in 14 seasons.
There's a fantastic book by Madden called "One Knee Equals Two Feet" in which he explains his philosophy on using timeouts when he was coaching. It's fantastic, and one of the true mysteries of life to me is how, in the NFL, good clock management is the exception rather than the rule, and it's been that way forever.
I agree, it's an awesome book; I purchased that for my mom along with "Snake" (Ken stabler & Joe Namath were her favorite QB's) & the book on on the 1970s Raiders, "Badasses" (yeah, my mom in general was really balls-to-the- wall 💙). I think Madden knew what he was doing in a big way, and really was a great coaching mind.
@@gluserty His chapter on clock management is something that always resonated with me. It's very simple and easy to understand, while backed up with ironclad logic.
@@SECRETARIATguy224 It sure is, and I have no idea why other coaches struggle with the concept of time management (Jimmy Johnson did a similar thing that Kush did when Dallas played Washington at home in 1991, just letting the clock run with timeouts in his pocket).
@@gluserty It boggles my mind how in the NFL it's the rare exception to see a team that properly conserves and uses their timeouts, particularly in the 2nd half.
@@SECRETARIATguy224 Yeah, seems most NBA coaches do a better job with timeouts (I know they have more at their disposal, but still...).
How about a Les Steckel video ... I heard some great stories. Steckel blew a gasket when he saw Dave Casper sitting on his helmet during a TC practice. Steckel screamed at Casper informing him that his helmet was to stay on at all times. After practice Casper took a shower with his helmet on, went to the team dinner with his helmet on, showed up to the team meeting with his helmet on, and the following morning showed up to breakfast wearing his helmet. This was the beginning of the end for Steckel. He lost his team before the regular season started.
LOL That was Dave Casper, all right.
There was a saying during the 1984 season: "Les Steckel, More Bud"
Sometimes you read and watch videos of decisions coaches make and do not make and you shake your head and ask "were they even paying attention to what was going on?" This was really one of those moments. Always amazing how you find these videos and what a great analysis you do
This is the kind of decision far leftists would defend by calling anybody who questioned it stupid and evil, while offering no justification for why it wasn't dumb.
@@DolFan316 Yes sir correct!
Haha, I like how you went from totally calm to completely outraged in a matter of two seconds… then the Curb theme 😂
Was the Curb theme in reference to Jeff Garlin being fired from the Goldbergs?
@@CTubeMan haha, maybe so!
This unofficial JaguarGator9 Historian will remind you all that Bud Grant did the exact same thing Frank Kush did in a 1978 game against the Seattle Seahawks.
And also, I busted out laughing, not only when you blew a gasket on Frank Kush's play clock strategy, but when the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme played when Neil O'Donoghue made that Field Goal.
Are you trying to get into the faculty lounge as well? If so, we need to get you fitted for a tweed jacket. What’s your size?
Frank Kush treated his players like dirt at Arizona St. and the Colts.
Yes, it was exactly why John Elway didn’t want to play for him after the Colts drafted him.
The dying days of the era when coaches could physically abuse their players and not only get away with it, but be praised for it. By the parents of the players!
Coaches of elite college teams rarely have to coach, they almost never have to game plan against a team close to their caliber. In the NFL you have to do this virtually every week.
Everyone: "You want to talk about Urban Meyer?"
JaguarGator9: "Why would I?"
Bobby Petrino is probably happy knowing a guy has replaced him as a worse college coach coming to the NFL.
@@coryshannon3815 My alma mater beat Petrino's current team (which I had no idea he was coaching) in the FBS playoffs a few weeks ago, and IDK what I was happier about, them winning or Petrino losing!
The only time kush has worked in the NFL was when Ricky Williams ran all over the league in 2002
This was about like how Les Miles didn't use his timeouts and lost to Ole Miss a few years ago when Miles was coaching at LSU.
I will never forget John Elway’s dad laughing at a press conference saying, “ Colts and Kush earned the right to pick number one”, ( paraphrasing )
Wow, everyone just chill on the time out. Obviously Kush thought the field goal team would spike the ball on at least this play.😳😳🤣😂🤣
Actually, the spike wasn't around yet.
@@Rockhound6165 WHAT! Sorry Coach Kush, I tried to help you. I’m out.
@@Rockhound6165 Wait? Really? When did the spike come into existence
We can also talk about the play-calling -- up 2 late in the game - and running 2 pass plays and throwing it to a receiver near the sideline. What a way to run out the clock, or at least put pressure on the defense.
That was Fins-Jets level play calling right there.
The Colts first year in Indianapolis and their second home game as well on September 16, 1984.
Idk where this channel came from but stumbled across it today and it's fantastic! Binge time for sure 👌👌👌
1:50, you got it backward. Both lost in week 1 and won in week 2. The Colts lost to the Jets at home in week 1 while the Cards lost @ GB(thanks to a missed extra point by O'Donahue). And ironically enough, Cards offensive coordinator Rod Dowhower would replace Kush as Colts head coach then a few season later the Cards would move out west and play in Frank Kush field at Sun Devil Stadium.
Frank Kush is worse than the NFL coaching equivalent of doing nothing but spiking the ball into the ground on every single play. Definite 0.0 right there.
This video is yet another example of why I just hyped this channel to one of my buddies last night at the bar. I showed yesterday's video about the Terry Bradshaw/Jimmy Johnson game broadcast to him. I think I might have made JG9 another fan!
Something tells me Kush already checked out by that point.
If a coach did this sort of thing today, he'd literally never live it down. Back then, I had no idea this even happened until just now. The media at the time either never said a word about it or made a mild commotion for a day or so before moving on.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, I wasn't following the NFL closely back then. I certainly wouldn't have remembered it either way.
But yeah, if that happened today? It'd be all over social media, broadcast media, print media, and Kush would likely have been run out of town the next day.
His reaction when they don’t take the timeout before the Cards kick the FG is the same one I had when BB didn’t call a timeout right before the Malcolm Butler interception.
Great video! I love the bait and switch intro, and there were some funny one-liners.
“WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!”
All these shots of Kush plodding along the sideline like he'd rather be somewhere else.
Yes, he was disappointed the Colts moved to Indianapolis instead of Phoenix like he wanted.
My oh my, not only a year later and we have 4 straight Dumb Decisions in a row on this topic.
Even though I never been there The RCA dome gives me insta nostalgia
A dumb decision during a Cardinals' game that _wasn't_ made by the Cardinals?? :O
It's truly a bizarre world.
It was the 1980s Colts, so…
@@CTubeMan The 1980s, Robert Irsay-owned Colts were a whole new level of suckage. From a defense that allowed 533 points in 1981 to the John Elway debacle and the move to Indianapolis, it was not a proud era for that franchise.
Jim Irsay has had his share of bad moments, but he brought a Super Bowl Championship to Indy and has overall been a much less sucky owner than his dad.
@@82dorrin Yeah, well, the City of Baltimore, and/or, the State of Maryland, gave him a trash stadium, and, tried to seize the team by, Eminent Domain, what he did sucked, but, you, really, can't root, for, either, side, here, at all.
Those Cards didn't make many mental mistakes, just shot themselves in the foot repeatedly.
@Rockhound6165 Well, they, got, totally, outshot, (as, it, were), in, this, Game, that's, for, sure.
i don't know what is more shocking here : the colts clock mismanagement or not hearing " if you were to spike the ball into the ground on every play"
You are totally amazing!! Do you know all the details from every NFL (and AFL!) game ever played??
A great intro with the video images of Urban Meyer when its going to be about Frank Kush.
3:17 most famous colts touchdown by a guy named Tracy porter! 🤣 had to look it up
Classic!
You need to do a deep dive into "The Fumble" as Giants fans call that November 1978 play at the Meadowlands. Call it "the dumbest end of the game call in history".
PS you almost went @urinatingtree level of yelling with this critique. And rightfully so.
I agree with the need for a deep dive from JG9. That fiasco changed the way football games are managed late in the 4th quarter.
@@andrewpadaetz5549 Almost is right. JG9 went with a family-friendly G-rated rant, while UrinatingTree would have gone nuts with.....well, you know the drill. (Hint: @#&$&@&!!)
@@bobscott2429 and JG9 just appeared with Tree and Five Points Vids on their Dumpster Fire this past Tuesday to discuss an even Dumber Decision among other things.
Maybe there was a player on the Colts with huge gambling debts who was approached by a bookie who "encouraged" Indy to lose that game. Any idea who that might be?
I don’t know who you might be talking about. Was he shown on the video…more than once?
@@CTubeMan A certain quarterback, yes.
Not like he played much.
@@toddbiesel4288 What are the odds? No seriously, what are the odds?
He definitely had bets on games going on but not sure about the games he played in.
1:09 I love that slick reveal
6:07-6:22 RIP to those ear drums who have head phones on
It’s like he didn’t even care. No energy or leadership coming from up top. No will to win. Let’s go Colts.
There's absolutely no reasonable explanation other than he didn't give a ?!?!
Lol, I was yelling the same thing at the same time you did. Great minds think alike I guess.
Bro you went in on that coach lmaoooooo
Coaches used to be so bad at this in general. Maybe not this bad but just specifically with the lead even when other team clearly gonna score not either letting them score until recently and not taking timeouts
The Tracy Porter reference was funny
Love your content bro.
The man's name is Kush, how can we be surprised he spaced on the clock?
Let's face it. The Indianapolis Colts have ALWAYS been LOWER than a 39.6. Whether they were in Baltimore OR Indianapolis. The Colts would be BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!
Beautiful swerve at the beginning!
It seemed like at the end, Kush was trying to get fired.
His offensive strategy was: Run Randy McMillan left, run Randy McMillan right, run Randy McMillan on 3rd and 20.
How the algorithm hasn’t blown you up yet is unreal
I had to check to make sure this was a video about 1995 when there were so many Urban Meyer shots in the intro. I thought I'd somehow fast forwarded by accident or something.
How did this man have a head coaching job. The colts were a dumpster fire
The Mayflower truck reference made me cry of laughter🤣🤣🤣
Eberflus just put Kush to shame when it comes to clock management lol. But I see you already have a video about it.👍The Bears game made me instantly remember this video.
The man who be the Colts head coach next year, was the Cardinals Offensive Coordinator, Rod Dowhower
The Tracy Porter line made me laugh.
I can't believe a coach that went winless not only wasn't fired, but got to go out on his own terms; that was really embarrassing for Indy lol.
Marvin Lewis didn't go, winless, but, he, never, won, a, Playoff Game, lasted, one, season, longer, than, HOFer, Bill Cowher, and, went out on his own terms, if there's a sane explanation, for, that, I'd, really, love, to hear it.
The winless season was the strike shortened 1982 season(only 9 games played). Colts went 0-8-1.
@Rockhound6165 They'd be on their way to the Midwest just, one, season, later, just fast.
@@matthewdaley746 ...I think letting a guy leave on his own terms who had at least some success the way Marvin did is way more understandable than letting a first year HC who goes winless stay lol; it's not a mystery as to why an owner would keep a coach who's consistently in the playoff picture the way Cincinnati was in the first half of the 2010s and just because he never won a playoff game doesn't put him in the same category as a coach who went winless and then had no winning seasons after that. Not even remotely comparable situations.
@@Rockhound6165 a winless season is a winless season; has there ever been another example of a team keeping a HC after a year of failing to win a game that wasn't an expansion team? Like it was obvious by the time Kush quit that it wasn't working so it's not like a Tom Landry situation; even the Browns were smart enough to dump Hue Jackson after two seasons and they gave Kush one more season than that.
1:19 And Marchibroda was only hired because Irsay gave his GM, Joe Thomas free reign. HE was the one who hired Marchibroda.
How did none of the other coaches not suggest a TO.
Anyone know where he gets all this old game footage? its insane how much is out there.
Have you ever covered the 12/10/1989 saints bills game?
There a few head coaches of the bills that had no idea how to manage the clock, Rex Ryan and Gregg Williams come to mind.
And after watching the kick it was like karma wouldn't let him miss it. The snap was terrible and the hold didn't look like he recovered it but it went right down the middle like our creator said oh no you can't win for this stupidity.
Didn’t remember that game but wow! My 11 year old who barely knows football would know to call timeout…
It really explains the disfunction of this franchise from the mid 70s until the late 1990s.
The whole thing would start, when they let the Raiders off of the hook in, "Ghost, To, The, Post," Karma, caught up, with, them the week, after, though, it did.
And the dysfunction as well 😋
@DolFan316 Like, the choke at Buffalo, that, was, a Game that, ultimately, moved a team, even, though, it took several years.
Coincidentally that was from 1971, when Robert Irsay traded the LA Rams to Carol Rosenblum, to 1997, when he died. The only sustained success we had during that time were three straight AFC east titles in the mid 70's and two wild card berths in the mid 90's. Shocker of shock's, four of those five playoff appearances, including the magical trip to the 95' AFC championship game, came when Ted Marchibroda was head coach.
@connorrivers995 Their, luck, was, just, the, worst, it, seemed, totally, cruel.
Another dumb Cardinals' decision: in 1986, the Cardinals, under Head Coach Gene Stallings, were trailing 16-10 in their season opener against the Rams. Late in the 4th Quarter, they drove down inside the 10-yard line, and got a first down on a run by Stump Mitchell. But he stayed in bounds in the middle of the field and the clock ran out before the Cards could run another play.
Gene Stallings' explanation for why he ran instead of throwing a sideline pass was that he thought the clock stopped after a first down.
In College Football, yes. In the NFL, no.
@@matthewdaley746 Great coach in College, not so great in the NFL.
@@matthewdaley746 The Tide destroying the Hurricanes was sweet.
@@82dorrin Easier, to list the coaches who succeeded, Johnson, Switzer, Carroll.
@82dorrin Yeah, even, sweeter, was, them falling off of a cliff, for, a few years, being, good, for, a few years, and, it happening, again.
@@matthewdaley746 You an Auburn fan?
As a Jag fan, I'll still take him over Urban Meyer 🤣🤣
I'd love to hear you commentary on actual games
Matt Eberflus really shoulda watched this video before Thanksgiving of 2024.
Pretty sure Cowher did this against the expansion Browns in 1999. I think that kick was further, though.
Savage burn for Colts fans at 3:16.
I've been following the NFL for over 40 years and I've never heard of this.. What the hell was Kush thinking? Or maybe he wasn't.Youd figure one of the assistant coaches would have said something to him.This is crazy 😂
Too bad you didn’t have audio of the announcers. It would be interesting to hear their take on what was going on, on the field during the Cards last possession.
As a Cardinals fan I love this. 😂
Boy, these Colts were tough to like: incompetent, just moved from a city that loved them, and had a coach who was unlikeable. This edition of the Cardinals though, still probably one of their top ten teams of all-time, right?
In 1984 the head coaches were not permitted to call time outs only the players could. In 2004 and beyond head coaches were allowed to call time outs as well as the players. The real question was: why didn't the Colts defense stop the clock?
Even then, Kush could have told his players to call timeout
I agree. Kush could have. It would have gave the colts plenty of time to set up a potential game winning drive. If the Cardinals took a one point lead after a field goal.
Man, if only Kush wasn't head coach would the Colts have stayed in Baltimore if Elway ended up coming here in '83?...
This guy was the reason Elway said hell no to playing with the colts. I would say Mr. Elway made an excellent business decision
Worst NFL coaches from the college ranks
Urban Meyer
Frank Kush
Nick Saban
Lou Holtz
Bobby Petrino
Greg Schiano
Chip Kelly
Steve Spurrier
Nick Saban?
@@CTubeMan I added him when I edited my post.
Saban may have fared much better and stayed much longer had they signed Brees instead of Culpepper
@@chriswahl4139 To be fair, he suffered what appeared, (at the time), to be a, serious, career-ending, injury.
You forgot Bud Wilkenson. A legendary college coach but went 9-20 as an NFL coach. Then there's Dick McPherson 8-24 & Mike Riley 14-34.
That 84 Cardinals team was pretty good. I'm surprised the Colts then hung with them. The Cardinals lost the NFC East that year by a last second field goal kick and with Neil Lomax and Roy Green and OJ Anderson I was shocked how fast they sucked in years after that.
Yeah, the Cards sucked the first 10 seasons in Phoenix until that Cinderella season they had where they beat the Cowboys in the playoffs.
Factors included (but not limited to): heavy travel and jet lag due to remaining in the NFC East until 2002 realignment; Not having a climate-controlled air-conditioned stadium as promised (but until 18 years later in 2006); they were in the desert for crying out loud; plus, a string of crappy coaches and a tightwad owner.
@@lakebay972 As a kid in the 80s who was a Redskins fan when they were good I still hate the Cardinals who were the division punching bag left. At some point I realized oh crap my team is now the punching bag. And for decades. I am still surprised Bidwill left St Louis. It compared to Sun Devil was a gorgeous stadium vs a college stadium with bench seats. Arizona eventually got it right with the new stadium but it's odd thinking back to him not demanding the new stadium from day 1 to do the move. And for many years due to the heat they would play the first 2 or 3 games on the road which to your point didn't help get them a good start either.
@@lakebay972 Oh I didn't know a new stadium was promised back then. Amazing how a deal was struck then not fulfilled on something like that.
@@willmarkley4237 The Cowboys we’re also a punching bag in the ‘80s. Tom Landry was past his prime. His would-be replacement Gene Stallings went to STL/PHX. I’m not surprised at all Bidwell moved. St Louis is simply not a football city. Phoenix had been begging for an NFL franchise throughout the ‘70s and ‘80s. They were expansion snubbed simply because of that lack of climate air stadium which required a roof plus hydrated fresh grass. If you look at the architecture of Cardinals’ Stadium, it’s like a matchbox so that the field can survive the desert heat and be playable. Another reason why it took so long was that the City government back then didn’t believe in urban development. They didn’t want Phoenix to become another Los Angeles; but that’s too late considering it’s now the 5th largest city in the US.
@@willmarkley4237 Yes, that’s why the Colts, Eagles and Saints didn’t move and why Phoenix was snubbed for an expansion team. The same thing applied in the MLB. The only way Phoenix would have a team would be if it guaranteed a climate-controlled air-conditioned stadium. Las Vegas was usually overlooked as well. Same applies to them for an expansion or existing team. Same reason why the Rangers ended up staying in D/FW. I’ve been to the new ballpark in Arlington. Looks like a mortgage lending company on outside; but inside, it’s beautiful and state-of-the-art. Stays 72 degrees all season long.
hi, im from the future. this guy named matt eberflus will make this video obsolete thanksgiving 2024.
I heard one of the reasons John Elway refused to play for the Colts was because Frank Kush fired his father, Jack, from his assistant coach job.
Also, I love the return of the upbeat music! But I think it riled you up in your narration more than I’ve heard you riled up before. And you weren’t even talking about verbal contracts here! But you were talking about stupidity surrounding a Cardinals kick, so I guess that’s consistent with some of your past videos.
The rest of you may be wondering (imagine this in JG9’s voice), WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Well, this unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following that caused you to blow a gasket:
1. The thought process behind the decision of Cardinals Coach Bob Hollway to execute an onside kick in a game against the Chargers in 1971.
2. Willie Richardson not showing up with the Steelers after being traded to them because of a dispute over a verbal contract in 1970.
3. Jayne Kennedy getting let go from the NFL Today in 1980 after CBS gave her a verbal agreement to do a Real People spinoff on NBC.
You are doing the work of the lord by archiving this knowledge lol
@@madmanszalinski Me or JG9?
@@CTubeMan yes
I'd love to see a Dumb Decisions breaking down Dan Quinn going for a Field Goal in the 4th Quarter when down by 4 against the 49ers
His, entire, career is, A, Dumb, Decision, the, only, difference between him, and, Doug Pederson, is that, DP, played to, win, simple as that.
@@matthewdaley746 Who, Pederson or Quinn? Because if you say it's Quinn...look at which decision I suggested be covered
@WolfDB DQ, Played, Not, To, Lose, he, only, became a coach, since, Mike McCarthy choked, and, the results have, truly, spoken, for, themselves.
@@matthewdaley746 ...please tell me you're joking, because a 43-42 record in the regular season and being the head coach behind one of the most infamously bad choke jobs in NFL history doesn't seem like "playing to win" to me
@@WolfDB I think you misunderstood me, Dan Quinn didn't play to, win, Doug Pederson, not, only, did, he, wasn't, stupid enough to think Bill Belichick wouldn't tape his practices, so, his trick play, was, rehearsed in a ballroom, and, it worked, I edited my posts.
*facepalm* about one million times...
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Him saying he loss track of time was totally an excuse.
Frank Kush vs. Les Steckel in the tank bowl.
CBS also had Bears/Packers in the early window and I think that went to most of the US aside from early-window NBC markets, so that likely lowered the level of embarrassment for Kush. Regardless of the telecasts' distribution, Kush should've known better. He should've called those timeouts to give his offense a chance if Neil O'Donoghue made that FG. I don't blame John Elway for not wanting to play for him. At least Dan Reeves was nowhere near as bad for him as Kush would've been.
I was 10 at the time and even *I* fully supported Elway's decision and wondered why more players didn't do the same thing.
Roy Green was SO good.
This was a no decision not a bad decision. How did he not use his TO's on second down and third down too? And St. Louis almost screwed up too when they threw the ball on third down. Why would you ever throw a pass in that situation? Lucky for them they didn't throw a pick.
And blame his assistants too. How many times do you see assistants run over to tell the coach to call a time out. He failed and his staff failed with him.
There was that one time when that one Ravens assistant called a timeout that actually allowed the unbeaten Pats to win in '07. Just sayin'.
It's egregious, but nobody did this back then.
🛑🛑 Frank Kush from Windber PA 😀👍
Chill out! Several times I heard yelling in this video of football history. Take it easy on the triple lattes.
Love your dumb decisions videos but…maybe dial it back a bit on the yelling?? Lol
WHY ARE YOU NOT CALLING A TIMEOUT?!!!
Actually, I could make that very mistake easily enuf, and afterwards also just say, "I didn't think about it". Tho I'm not an NFL head coach
Frank Kush was smoking that good kush
This is why the Colts were dogshit for 20 years before Peyton Manning got drafted.
Old man irsay was a terrible owner and dangerously incompetent