Not sure if thats a dig at AEW. But, companies would rather have a younger fanbase than an older one. Younger people spend more money on tickets & merch and ad products. And advertisers covet that demographic much more. The only real drawback is chord cutting. Younger people are less likely to have cable, and so that can affect the ratings. Still, many younger people live with their boomer/Gen X parents, who DO have cable. And who turns down FREE cable? But all in all, a younger demo is much more preferable.
This is a 5+ year old quote, when friggin Alice was still the co-host. Bit late to start a debate on the opinion offered. I rubbed my eyes as hard as Nash, when Oliver brought it up. Not adding to the fact, that Nash has already mentioned his brain goes into a "protect the business"/cornette mode when he sees things that expose the business (eg orange cassidy), even if he likes them. This is clickbait garbage.
Agreed. the Sean Oliver is just trying to ride off of Cornette's podcast success by publishing this clip and getting Cornette trending. Probably just did a random search on TH-cam and decided to use that 5-year old clip to get himself over. Wayyyy to go buddy!
The amount of time passed doesn't really matter. Cornette will talk about the curtain call until the day he dies, because it's something that he absolutely despised along with everyone involved. I've heard several interviews with Cornette and different people about the CC and he's never changed his stance on it.
@@markgould5658 Honestly Eric Bishoff is more honest. He says older wrestlers tend to remember history the way they want to. And not how it really was. Jim and Kevin both are guilty of that. I mean Kevin also claimed the Kliq never did anything bad to anybody. Yet X-pac said he pissed in a wrestler's bag. And that's just what he admitted.
@Jonathan Williams Jim's podcast is the only reason I know what's happening in wrestling today. I listen to his review of Adam Page vs. "Eee-eee-eeeeee" every day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nash and Cornette are the two OGs of wrestling shoots…how they’ve never sat down and at least had a one on one convo on either channel is crazy…put the differences aside and make it happen Kev…easily grab a million views probably more
@@CordellWallers that's just on youtube and its 315k anyways, but the experience and drive through are the number 1 and 2 most listened to podcasts in US/Wrestling. it's really not even close honestly.
Ya know, I was writing a reply about how Cornette would scream and Nash would probably kill him out of necessity more than anything else, but those two agree on most things. Nash has even talked about how he and Cornette were on the same page in TNA more often than not. A discussion (hopefully with booze) between the two where they talk about everything and anything would be hilarious.
I’d love to see Corny and Nash do a sit down discussion podcast together mediated by Sean. I reckon they would agree far more than they would disagree.
Cornette and Nash are both enormous assets to the wrestling world. Both are real as they come. That being said, I think Kevin knows what Jim was saying is pretty accurate. Both are legends in the biz.
It’s a little unfair to use a clip that was so old, Alice is still on the podcast. I think Jim has a more favorable impression of triple h now with how nxt 1.0 was performing.
On the one hand, I see Corny's point, it did expose the business. All those people had just seen Shawn and Kevin beat the piss out of each other, and now, they're watching them all hug, and be best friends, along with Razor and Hunter, while Razor was a face, and Hunter was a heel. If they'd done this in the 70's, early 80's, yeah, I think some of the old timers would have kicked their asses. On the other hand, if they don't do this, the business as we know it does not exist. Hunter was the only one really punished for it, and they took King of the Ring away from him, and gave it to Stone Cold. Without the Curtain Call, Austin doesn't win King of the Ring, never cuts that promo, Austin 3:16 never happens, the biggest star in the history of the business isn't created, WrestleMania XIV has a whole different main event, it all comes crashing down.
My perception of Hunter was not all that different from Cornettes. Even in the original dx, to me, he came across as less than Shawn, and not really all that interesting beyond his association with Chyna. She made Hunter something to look at. I don't think anyone thought Hunter was all that cool until the Mike Tyson thing were Shawn left and he introduced Waltman as a new member. That was a cool promo. I think HHH lives eats sleeps pro wrestling and I appreciate that. But a legendary performer he is not and at the time of the curtain call, he had zippity doo da value
i agree except ill had Hunter earned his stripes as a top heel later as the game versus austin and rock, foley etc. but i definitely agree at that time he wont close to that level.
That time he did but after Shawn's retirement the first time I have never seen Shawn as a bigger star than Hunter. People actually recognize Hunter more than they do Shawn
That's was ahead of it's time, plus, no matter what Cornette or anyone else said about the incident, the Curtain Call didn't hurt the business in any way at all
The curtain call is way overblown. It wasn't on live TV. All they did was hug each other for a few seconds. It isn't like they were trying to hurt the business.
Vince didn't think it was overblown and he was the boss. It is why Triple H had the King of the Ring taken away that year as he was booked to win that. He took the fall.
@@PowerNGlory Yeah it really ruined the business... Both wrestling promotions went bankrupt & nobody ever made any money after the Curtain Call, it was the single worst most devastating thing to ever happen to wrestling.
Lmao you all are delusional. He was a big, intimidating presence with an impressive work rate for size.. had a natural heel look and was solid on the mic. He got over way before his relationship Stephanie
When I was learning to wrestle in 2005, one of the things I was told was "watch how Triple H bumps." Regardless of his political skill, Triple H always busted his ass in the ring and took those man-sized bumps like a pro and a champ. As a worker, there were very few people as smooth and solid as him. That's why he was the man in 2000, and it's why he's the man now.
He would never want to work that road schedule lmfaoo. Why would anyone his age want to do that? You’d have to be a person with absolutely no life whatsoever
Kevin knows that Jim is somewhat correct with his view on the Curtain Call. But he also understood that the business was changing, and at the end of the day, he got paid an enormous amount of money later. So Nash is smart. As he once said, the only thing real about the business are the money, and the miles, as Capt. Lou advised him. Both Corny and Kevin are legends in the business. They're very different, but also very much the same. Notice that Nash doesn't really piss on Jim. He knows he kinda fucked up, but at the end of the day, it's all about getting paid.
By the time the curtain call thing went down, wrestling had already been exposed for what it was many, many times throughout the decades going back almost 100 years. Besides that, it would have been impossible to keep kayfabe going by the end of the decade anyway thanks to the internet.
@@raoulduke8725 it's not a work at all. You must not have watched the video. Kevin said it's a twenty year old clip. He also said Jim is a genius, and then he talked about how well they got along in TNA and how they mostly agree on booking decisions. You worked yourself by commenting without watching and listening to what he said. Lol
Hello 🇨🇦 🍁 😁 👋 from Canada 🇨🇦 😀 GROW UP. They are married with three daughters. Husband, wife , children and a job. You just pay attention to wrestlers doing cooperation gymnastics on a trampoline and leave real life to the adults mmmmkay?
@@jeffmac9642 Damn Jeff that was brutal. I thought Canadians were suppose to be 'nice' lol. Although I kinda agree with what you said, I just thought Canadians were much nicer than this!
@@erikstorm8935 We are the nicest people on the planet until someone gets ludicrous then we voice our objection in a forceful manner. Or we go full hockey Donnybrook. Plus it's fun to stomp on basement dwellers. Consider me as Brett Hart in full villain mode 🤣🤣🤣
If the boys in the back were mad about 'The Curtain Call' I can imagine they'd more upset about Jim holding out on an earned WrestleMania check for one of their own. Sure thing, Jim...sounds good.
@techCUISINE because some dude snuck a camcorder into msg, then put it on the internet....had the incident not been caught on camera, there would have been no(or less) punishment. It was a mid 90s house show where there werent supposed to be cameras. If those guys had really intended to break kayfabe and "expose" the biz, they woulda done it at hall & nash's last tv taping. Once it was out there for everyone with a dial up connection to see, not just the ppl in attendance, Vince had to do something or the majority of his roster would have lost faith in him.
“Jim didn’t have the foresight like us, to know that hhh would run the company” yeah I think corny addressed that too. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think his words were “some people are just licking the right crack” soo.. 🤷♂️
What Cornertte suggested is a breach of contract which in turn would have cost Vince hundreds of thousands if not millions more dollars as a result of lawsuits.
Nonsense. No wrestler who sued a booker would have worked another day in the business at the time. They would have sucked it up and done nothing about it. Plenty of others did. 1996 wasn't 2022.
It's also why they are both f'n LEGENDS to a certain type of fan like myself who used to love it when you could suspend disbelief a little and enjoy good pro wrestling. Instead of people like Nash and most of the modern wrestlers slapping you in the face that it's fake all the time. I doubt the Hart Austin rivalry would have made Austin such a big star if they'd both hugged each other after every match in front of an arena full of fans. And as Nash says the older he gets the more he sees Corny had a point.
@@theantilifeequation8150 l know wrestling are fake since l was 10, anyone who think its real after they reached puberty must have serious concentration issue
@@clarkkent983 when did I say I thought it was real, I knew it was a work from the age of maybe 5 as my uncle was a wrestler and my father who never got on with him and hated wrestling would tell me every chance he got it was fake. But I SUSPEND DISBELIEF don't you understand what that means? When done correctly wrestling as an art is about letting the people suspend disbelief and enjoy themselves not slap them in the face that it's fake all the time. That's been done for so long now very few people bother watching anymore.
@@theantilifeequation8150 the only one getting hurt by the Kliq action are Bret fan boys because they hated them, fact. Everyone else don't really give a fck
@@pwx13 Kevin Nash had heat with guys that he never even worked with, like Ricky Morton and Ultimate Warrior. Nash rubbed a lot of the guys in the locker room the wrong way, including Roddy Piper, who was liked by virtually everyone. Nash is the common denominator in so many spats with other wrestlers.
@@megamouthspike1930 you come in working as oz, it makes you edgy and defensive. At least he took the business seriously vs kenny omega who wrestled a blow up doll
Kev, watch out, Jim would have fired you and you would have never made it big in Smoky Mountain wrestling in front of 24 people in a high school gymnasium. And all the perks like those chicks that Henry Godwin was into as ring rats.
Cornette is absolutely correct & Nash should be quiet about this. Did the best era in wrestling start after this? Yes. But we haven't gotten back to that because Cornette is correct about it being hotshotting for way too long.
The idea about 'hotshotting' isn't evwn from Cornette, it's the typical propaganda narrative of AE haters, and it makes no sense. Ric Flair had at last 32 matches with a world title change. 30, freaking, 2. Most of which happened in half that many years.
I doubt there will be a response, Corny and Last got their plate full without listening to other podcasts for takes on him. They have to do the 3 ppvs over the weekend and all the Punk fallout news. If Oliver wanted a response for free publicity he'd had been better off doing this on a slow news week.
@@ICHIBAN-cz8ih I do listen. About 6-7 hours a week between the two podcasts. It's him and Brian pissed off they have to talk about anything modern then acting like everything was amazing during the territories.
This is a very old Cornette take on the Curtain Call. Corny has walked back some of the vitriol and negativity towards Kevin Nash since this Clip from years ago. If anything, I would suggest using a more recent Clip of Jim's opinion. Please next time make sure you use a more recent take from a person than an old Clip.
I never was a big Kevin Nash fan back then when he wrestled in the Wwf. Nowadays after watching and listening to Kevin talk about wrestling history he comes off as being a very kind, sincere guy who values friendship and family. He has a genuine love for the wrestling industry and always looked out for the fellow wrestlers. Kevin has left his mark on the industry and was and still is a big star. Kevin Nash is alright in my book.
Firing Triple H would of been a huge mistake,Huge. Also not paying the talent what they’re owed is just a scumbag move and just ridiculous to even bring up. These guys made that era,and the contracts were pretty BS. That’s why they left,money.
There was no "Triple H" in '96. He was going nowhere at the time. Linear passage of time is a thing. Not paying talent who went into business for themselves and sabotaged the bookers' plans was standard at the time.
@@henrygvidonas9573 He was scheduled to win the King of the Ring in 96,but the Curtain Call happened. He also won the IC title in 96 and Mr Perfect was his manager until he left. They didn’t just hand out the IC Title to guys going nowhere back then. They didn’t go into business themselves,first they did everything they had to in order to complete their contracts. During that time Razor kept asking for a pay bump,it was his idea to take and make money off the merchandise,they said no. They call them independent wrestlers,but can only work for one company and they get a guaranteed 1500 bucks back then,that’s it. Every other dollar they made was on them. So I’d leave too if you have to work less than half your schedule for twice the money and it’s guaranteed. Razor really hooked up many wrestlers with this,and it helped all the talent get paid. Plus even though it was not 96 in the first part of 97 Hunter win King of the Ring signifying his punishment was truly up and he and Shawn went on to form DX with Chyna. So yeah firing the Blue Blood from Connecticut would of been stupid as hell and luckily Mr McMahon knew this,that’s why he punished him in 96 and didn’t fire him.
Hypotheticals about what has already happened in a person's life, like HHH, are useless. The man's life has played out and this is where he's at, at the top of the WWE. That's not hypothetical, it's what happened. Part of HHH's success are the decisions he makes, including who to network with. And he happened to network brilliantly, up to and including marrying the boss's daughter. So, no, HHH was never destined to be midcard for life.
I firmly believe that, while he may love Stephanie on some level now, love, or physical attraction, was not his primary reason for courting her. She has nothing in common aesthetically with the woman he cheated on for one thing. And he already attached himself to the most powerful guys in the business, despite not sharing in their proclivities for drugs and alcohol, for another. I think his passion for the business and determination to be the top guy, if not in fan reception then in terms of booking, led him to initiate a relationship with Steph. It was purely strategic IMO and even back then he had his eyes on succeeding Vince when he croaked. And take one guess who leaked Vince's payoffs to the WSJ.
Triple Nobody is the Kevin federline of professional rasslin. He is a bland mid cArd job guy who is known to casual fans as “that weird, quiet, awkward big nosed guy who follows Chyna & Shawn Michaels around like some sort of lost stray dog....”. Without his relations to Michaels, Chyna, and the boss’s daughter, no one would know who he was lmfao
@@dennishbergkamp lol keep running around with this bs. 20 years he's been married to her with teenage kids now. What the fuck do you know about love? Triple H planned an elaborate coup on Vince's seat 23 years earlier in 1999? It's not like relationships break and the fact that he was breaking a company rule by being with owner's daughter that could potentially blacklist him if something goes wrong. You don't know a damn thing about it but you're out here with your stupid tin foil hat thinking everything went the way Triple H planned. I wonder why he never created a contingency plan for getting a heart attack.
I like that Nash called out that this was probably a old podcast that Jim did years ago (It is btw). Not taking the bait. Jim has changed his tune just a little bit with Nash and Scott Hall over the years.
Scott actually missed Wrestlemania becuase he failed a drug test and was suspended. Cornette is 100% right. Nash while he is a good on screen talent is responsible for doing a lot of stupid shit he won't take responsibility for. The curtain call is one of them. If Nash and Shawn had told Vince what they were gonna do he would have told them absolutely not. Acting like Vince gave them permission to go out and hug and kiss in the ring is preposterous.
@@josiah1218 I forgot you're his best friend. 🤡 Vince in 96 absolutely would not have allowed that. This has been confirmed by the people who were there. It's absolutely hilarious that people like you say something that's been debunked for 26 years by multiple people. 🤦♂️
Scott Hall had admitted last year that Vince did know about this. He said that it was Shawn's idea to have Razor come out to the ring after the match. He admitted that he was there in Vince's office, when Shawn came in and proposed this idea. Vince reluctantly agreed to it as well. 🍀
@@siddharthakumar6467 yeah. I understand they asked Vince if Scott and Hunter could come out and Vince agreed. Nobody is disputing that. Whats in dispute is the fact that if they had told Vince they planned on hugging, kissing, and being best buds in the middle of the ring in Madison Square Garden he would have flat out told them no. Hence why Vince got upset afterwards.
I'm here to tell you, there's no way Nash is beating up even a 56 year old Bill Watts. Hall maybe had a chance being a bouncer for years Triple H no, HBK HELL no. Bill Was a tough salty old fella who would wear steel toecap cowboy boot and would split your nutsack with them if he had to, he'd also go for the eyes.
I'm still amazed at how wrestling hasn't bled the shoot interviews into storylines, worked shoots are the only thing that is going to bring back any realism.
The problem with worked shoots is it makes all other storylines look even faker than they are. "Hey guys, this angle is a real shoot. We swear. Up next, the fake stuff." But that's just my opinion.
@@ts9332 I meant all storylines should come from "real" backstage things. There is no kayfabe anymore but what I mean is these shoots all on TH-cam, if done as works without us knowing would be a good way to get kayfabe going again. Not just TH-cam I mean wrestling should use the other media they are on and blurring wether they're shooting or cutting a promo. I just think they are missing a trick here
That Cornette clip is one of his oldest podcast clips. That woman he spoke to has been gone for years. Good God Oliver, you had to go that far back to obtain something to talk about??? KLIQ THIS!!!
@@henrygvidonas9573 I can blame him. It's no different then me taking a clip from something you said 5-10 years ago. If Cornette still felt that way today in a relatively modern clip, I'd understand. But to take a clip from over 5 years ago is bush league.
That clip is older than most AeW fans
Older than most WWE fans sure, but most AEW fans are millennial neckbeard basement dwellers.
HA!!!
Right, and they’ve talked about it in Youshoots before.
Not sure if thats a dig at AEW. But, companies would rather have a younger fanbase than an older one. Younger people spend more money on tickets & merch and ad products. And advertisers covet that demographic much more. The only real drawback is chord cutting. Younger people are less likely to have cable, and so that can affect the ratings. Still, many younger people live with their boomer/Gen X parents, who DO have cable. And who turns down FREE cable? But all in all, a younger demo is much more preferable.
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Looks like Corny will be trending once again today haha
Poor Stacy just isn't going to be able to go anywhere online without seeing his name pop up lol
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They fall right into his trap! Lol!
Gotta love Jim 😂
@@whatsthedeal7062 absolutely !!
This is a 5+ year old quote, when friggin Alice was still the co-host. Bit late to start a debate on the opinion offered. I rubbed my eyes as hard as Nash, when Oliver brought it up. Not adding to the fact, that Nash has already mentioned his brain goes into a "protect the business"/cornette mode when he sees things that expose the business (eg orange cassidy), even if he likes them. This is clickbait garbage.
Agreed. the Sean Oliver is just trying to ride off of Cornette's podcast success by publishing this clip and getting Cornette trending. Probably just did a random search on TH-cam and decided to use that 5-year old clip to get himself over. Wayyyy to go buddy!
@@elpipiripau7647 100%
The amount of time passed doesn't really matter. Cornette will talk about the curtain call until the day he dies, because it's something that he absolutely despised along with everyone involved. I've heard several interviews with Cornette and different people about the CC and he's never changed his stance on it.
Cornette is clickbait garbage
this is a segment during every podcast. Sean Oliver brings a video up of someone shooting on Nash and Nash responds. No conspiracy idiots...
I appreciate that Kev acknowledged that this clip was really old. This is way before Brian Last was the cohost.
Durp
Was about to say this must be about 5 years old. Although I’m sure Jim would say the same thing now lol
@@markgould5658 Honestly Eric Bishoff is more honest. He says older wrestlers tend to remember history the way they want to. And not how it really was. Jim and Kevin both are guilty of that. I mean Kevin also claimed the Kliq never did anything bad to anybody. Yet X-pac said he pissed in a wrestler's bag. And that's just what he admitted.
@techCUISINE Depends if he can find the time to not whine about republicans or cry about how AEW sucks.
@@lastwolflord Eric honest? Lol he "can't remember" anything
I love both guys, so it sucks to see that they get such heat on each other, but it's great to see that they understand each other better years later.
My thoughts exactly
@Jonathan Williams Jim's podcast is the only reason I know what's happening in wrestling today. I listen to his review of Adam Page vs. "Eee-eee-eeeeee" every day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nash and Cornette are the two OGs of wrestling shoots…how they’ve never sat down and at least had a one on one convo on either channel is crazy…put the differences aside and make it happen Kev…easily grab a million views probably more
Jim Cornette is way to high up to lower himself to Nash’s level and have a “sit down”
Cornette has a empire to run
@@nigel1823 empire? The guy has like 250k subs lol if Nash had a podcast since 2014 I’m sure he’d have more than that tbh
@@CordellWallers that's just on youtube and its 315k anyways, but the experience and drive through are the number 1 and 2 most listened to podcasts in US/Wrestling. it's really not even close honestly.
@@CordellWallers go do do the merch numbers my guy
Ya know, I was writing a reply about how Cornette would scream and Nash would probably kill him out of necessity more than anything else, but those two agree on most things. Nash has even talked about how he and Cornette were on the same page in TNA more often than not. A discussion (hopefully with booze) between the two where they talk about everything and anything would be hilarious.
Sean: I like Jim Cornette I-
Kevin: I do too!
To be fair, Jim has given HHH, Hall, Nash and HBK credit for what they were each good at.
He just didn’t like the disrespect to the business
I've yet to hear anything positive about Nash come out of Cornette's mouth. He's always trying to bury him lol
@@nochannellol9276 listen harder
@@pleaseshutup7053 I think corny was most upset with HHH for the apology and the joke it became
@@daa589 true I’ve heard Cornette talk about that
Eric Watts won't allow Bill to see his grandchildren.
That tells you everything.
I’d love to see Corny and Nash do a sit down discussion podcast together mediated by Sean. I reckon they would agree far more than they would disagree.
Not Sean he is creepy
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan huh?
Nah it has to be Brian mediating
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan I wouldn’t say creepy, but arrogant prick seems to fit him(Oliver) well.
@@peterclapton625 i think he said sean is creepy. pretty acurate statement
Funny to hear how when Nash got older, what Cornie was saying suddenly made total sense.
Bingo
Cornette and Nash are both enormous assets to the wrestling world. Both are real as they come. That being said, I think Kevin knows what Jim was saying is pretty accurate. Both are legends in the biz.
Cornette has convinced fans the same way he convinced his wife
It’s a little unfair to use a clip that was so old, Alice is still on the podcast. I think Jim has a more favorable impression of triple h now with how nxt 1.0 was performing.
No he doesn’t lol.
@@vargas1569 looks like someone hasnt been listening to the podcasts
@@geesixnine Triple Clown is the Kevin federline of Professional rasslin
@@vargas1569 What lol
Vargas, you shouldn't go through life in such a miserably stupid state the way you are. Do better.
On the one hand, I see Corny's point, it did expose the business. All those people had just seen Shawn and Kevin beat the piss out of each other, and now, they're watching them all hug, and be best friends, along with Razor and Hunter, while Razor was a face, and Hunter was a heel. If they'd done this in the 70's, early 80's, yeah, I think some of the old timers would have kicked their asses. On the other hand, if they don't do this, the business as we know it does not exist. Hunter was the only one really punished for it, and they took King of the Ring away from him, and gave it to Stone Cold. Without the Curtain Call, Austin doesn't win King of the Ring, never cuts that promo, Austin 3:16 never happens, the biggest star in the history of the business isn't created, WrestleMania XIV has a whole different main event, it all comes crashing down.
Crazy butterfly effect
@@dreday5880 That's not the butterfly effect.
My perception of Hunter was not all that different from Cornettes. Even in the original dx, to me, he came across as less than Shawn, and not really all that interesting beyond his association with Chyna. She made Hunter something to look at. I don't think anyone thought Hunter was all that cool until the Mike Tyson thing were Shawn left and he introduced Waltman as a new member. That was a cool promo. I think HHH lives eats sleeps pro wrestling and I appreciate that. But a legendary performer he is not and at the time of the curtain call, he had zippity doo da value
i agree except ill had Hunter earned his stripes as a top heel later as the game versus austin and rock, foley etc. but i definitely agree at that time he wont close to that level.
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That time he did but after Shawn's retirement the first time I have never seen Shawn as a bigger star than Hunter. People actually recognize Hunter more than they do Shawn
That "Fuck Bill Watts" had a lot of passion behind it
Watch His "WWE Timeline : 1995", & You'll Understand Further the Main Reason or Reasons Why
Gotta agree with Cornette. That was unprofessional as hell
That's was ahead of it's time, plus, no matter what Cornette or anyone else said about the incident, the Curtain Call didn't hurt the business in any way at all
The curtain call is way overblown. It wasn't on live TV. All they did was hug each other for a few seconds. It isn't like they were trying to hurt the business.
Vince didn't think it was overblown and he was the boss. It is why Triple H had the King of the Ring taken away that year as he was booked to win that. He took the fall.
@@PowerNGlory Yeah it really ruined the business... Both wrestling promotions went bankrupt & nobody ever made any money after the Curtain Call, it was the single worst most devastating thing to ever happen to wrestling.
@@wolf7el356wwf didnt go bankrupt my guy.
It really bugs me that people genuinely believe HHH would have made it without stephanie and the connection.
HHH knew the right people to associate with going back to the Kliq days in the mid 90s. He would have been “midcard for life” without Stephanie.
Yes he would have.
I recommend watching wrestling isn’t wrestling, it’s a parody sort of but explains HHH perfectly.
Lmao you all are delusional. He was a big, intimidating presence with an impressive work rate for size.. had a natural heel look and was solid on the mic. He got over way before his relationship Stephanie
When I was learning to wrestle in 2005, one of the things I was told was "watch how Triple H bumps." Regardless of his political skill, Triple H always busted his ass in the ring and took those man-sized bumps like a pro and a champ. As a worker, there were very few people as smooth and solid as him. That's why he was the man in 2000, and it's why he's the man now.
I swear Nash should be the Raw or Smackdown GM. Pay him enough for him to do it.
He would never want to work that road schedule lmfaoo. Why would anyone his age want to do that? You’d have to be a person with absolutely no life whatsoever
@@vargas1569 he didn't wanna work that schedule 25+ years ago either
@@andrewbowyer5043 Well I'm sure a Multimillion dollar contract & being 25 years younger probably had something to do with it...
Kevin Nash as W Morissey's manager.
Kev needs to ask Sean what he does for lighting because Kev's lighting is brutal 🤣🤣
Kevin knows that Jim is somewhat correct with his view on the Curtain Call. But he also understood that the business was changing, and at the end of the day, he got paid an enormous amount of money later. So Nash is smart. As he once said, the only thing real about the business are the money, and the miles, as Capt. Lou advised him. Both Corny and Kevin are legends in the business. They're very different, but also very much the same. Notice that Nash doesn't really piss on Jim. He knows he kinda fucked up, but at the end of the day, it's all about getting paid.
By the time the curtain call thing went down, wrestling had already been exposed for what it was many, many times throughout the decades going back almost 100 years. Besides that, it would have been impossible to keep kayfabe going by the end of the decade anyway thanks to the internet.
Because he knows Cornette can obliterate anyone in a verbal joust
Rule one on a new wrestling podcast; Mention Jim Cornette, and watch you clicks go up
Nash V Cornette at all out
Good for Nash for calling out the 20 year old clip someone tried to stir up old drama on.
Cornette was right though
Yes
Yikes.
I love Kev and Jim, guys can’t we all just get along. 💕
They got along great in TNA. Kevin said he was surprised how similar their opinions were in booking meetings.
@@jaydav6521 I’m relieved 😌
It’s a work lol
Mark wrestling news site pick this up make something out of nothing from a 5 year old clip,and Nash and Cornette trend
@@raoulduke8725 it's not a work at all. You must not have watched the video. Kevin said it's a twenty year old clip. He also said Jim is a genius, and then he talked about how well they got along in TNA and how they mostly agree on booking decisions. You worked yourself by commenting without watching and listening to what he said. Lol
Cornettes parents are siblings
Ah the Alice days of Cornette Experience. We didn't yet know the greatness of Brian.
Brian is just as bad as Alice
Gross, Brian is a mediocre creep. Alice was just terrible and uniformed. Brian can read old wrestling cards though, I'll give him that much.
Brian is a kiss ass - Only person worth listening to as a co host is Kenny Bolin vs Jimmy
Brian Last is an excellent co-host.
@@StageRight123 THEEEE MOTHERSHIP!!!!
Even Jim finds him annoying.
How many times is this gonna be recycled? Can't be out of material already
Can you put which episode this is from on the graphic somewhere or in the description please?
I like Jim and Kev but respectfully If HHH had not gotten with and married the bosses daughter he would not be where he's at today.
Obviously not in the position he is in the company, but he was already a main eventer and a multi time world champion even before meeting steph
@@Immortalangel14 upper mid
Hello 🇨🇦 🍁 😁 👋 from Canada 🇨🇦 😀
GROW UP. They are married with three daughters. Husband, wife , children and a job. You just pay attention to wrestlers doing cooperation gymnastics on a trampoline and leave real life to the adults mmmmkay?
@@jeffmac9642 Damn Jeff that was brutal. I thought Canadians were suppose to be 'nice' lol.
Although I kinda agree with what you said, I just thought Canadians were much nicer than this!
@@erikstorm8935 We are the nicest people on the planet until someone gets ludicrous then we voice our objection in a forceful manner. Or we go full hockey Donnybrook. Plus it's fun to stomp on basement dwellers. Consider me as Brett Hart in full villain mode 🤣🤣🤣
If the boys in the back were mad about 'The Curtain Call' I can imagine they'd more upset about Jim holding out on an earned WrestleMania check for one of their own. Sure thing, Jim...sounds good.
I don't know, The Kliq seemed to have had more enemies than allies.
Can see how much Nash respects Cornett here by his response.
Wht show was he on I want to hear the whole thing?!
I love Corny & Nash, legend’s!
Looking back if McMahon the promoter was ok with the curtain call then all his employees should be ok with it too. Everyone got paid
@techCUISINE because some dude snuck a camcorder into msg, then put it on the internet....had the incident not been caught on camera, there would have been no(or less) punishment.
It was a mid 90s house show where there werent supposed to be cameras. If those guys had really intended to break kayfabe and "expose" the biz, they woulda done it at hall & nash's last tv taping.
Once it was out there for everyone with a dial up connection to see, not just the ppl in attendance, Vince had to do something or the majority of his roster would have lost faith in him.
Title is clickbaity Nash didn't really fireback he just replied to someone bad mouthing him.
I like how Nash disagrees with Jim Cornette without disrespecting him. That really shows that Nash has thick skin.
Back when Jim's voice still sounded like a young Jim Cornette even tho he was in his 50s
“Jim didn’t have the foresight like us, to know that hhh would run the company” yeah I think corny addressed that too. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think his words were “some people are just licking the right crack” soo.. 🤷♂️
What Cornertte suggested is a breach of contract which in turn would have cost Vince hundreds of thousands if not millions more dollars as a result of lawsuits.
Nonsense. No wrestler who sued a booker would have worked another day in the business at the time. They would have sucked it up and done nothing about it. Plenty of others did.
1996 wasn't 2022.
Cornette just can't let things go, that's why he like Bret a lot, because they both have this in common
It's also why they are both f'n LEGENDS to a certain type of fan like myself who used to love it when you could suspend disbelief a little and enjoy good pro wrestling. Instead of people like Nash and most of the modern wrestlers slapping you in the face that it's fake all the time. I doubt the Hart Austin rivalry would have made Austin such a big star if they'd both hugged each other after every match in front of an arena full of fans. And as Nash says the older he gets the more he sees Corny had a point.
@@theantilifeequation8150 l know wrestling are fake since l was 10, anyone who think its real after they reached puberty must have serious concentration issue
@@clarkkent983 when did I say I thought it was real, I knew it was a work from the age of maybe 5 as my uncle was a wrestler and my father who never got on with him and hated wrestling would tell me every chance he got it was fake. But I SUSPEND DISBELIEF don't you understand what that means? When done correctly wrestling as an art is about letting the people suspend disbelief and enjoy themselves not slap them in the face that it's fake all the time. That's been done for so long now very few people bother watching anymore.
@@theantilifeequation8150 the only one getting hurt by the Kliq action are Bret fan boys because they hated them, fact. Everyone else don't really give a fck
Kevin Nash has heat with "everyone" who was in the business at the same time that he was.
Because he got paid a ton of money for doing very little lol
@@vargas1569 because you have to fight for your spot. Not many people had nashs main event look to get that belt
@@pwx13 Kevin Nash had heat with guys that he never even worked with, like Ricky Morton and Ultimate Warrior. Nash rubbed a lot of the guys in the locker room the wrong way, including Roddy Piper, who was liked by virtually everyone. Nash is the common denominator in so many spats with other wrestlers.
@@megamouthspike1930 you come in working as oz, it makes you edgy and defensive. At least he took the business seriously vs kenny omega who wrestled a blow up doll
@@megamouthspike1930 who cares if its his fault, i want to watch wrestling not days of our lives
Like it or not, after not having been on WWE TV in years, Cornette is still one of the most relevant names in wrestling.
? I haven't seen him in decades, whats he up to?
Kev, watch out, Jim would have fired you and you would have never made it big in Smoky Mountain wrestling in front of 24 people in a high school gymnasium. And all the perks like those chicks that Henry Godwin was into as ring rats.
This comment won the Internet today.
Nash always seemed like a dude I’d like to have a beer and hang out with.
Cornette is absolutely correct & Nash should be quiet about this.
Did the best era in wrestling start after this? Yes. But we haven't gotten back to that because Cornette is correct about it being hotshotting for way too long.
The idea about 'hotshotting' isn't evwn from Cornette, it's the typical propaganda narrative of AE haters, and it makes no sense. Ric Flair had at last 32 matches with a world title change. 30, freaking, 2. Most of which happened in half that many years.
Shut up
Cornette likes to run his mouth about people and run away when asked to talk it over.
Welp... Business is about to pick up😂
The response to the response is going to be epic
Hahaha can’t wait
@@JofoInTheRing I'm definitely here for it😂🌽
@@twistedattic6553 😂😂
I doubt there will be a response, Corny and Last got their plate full without listening to other podcasts for takes on him. They have to do the 3 ppvs over the weekend and all the Punk fallout news. If Oliver wanted a response for free publicity he'd had been better off doing this on a slow news week.
3:57 Thank you Kev! I was thinking the same thing
I would love to see a three way discussion today between Cornette, Nash, and Oliver.
Have Corny as a guest on your podcast!
Nah
Yes
26 years ago.. where does the time go?!
The respect Nash has for Cornette is cool.
This Cornette clip is old. Alice hasn't been co-host of the Cornette Experience for years.
he said it, right? what does the age of the clip have to do with the content itself? nothing, just coping from dumb cornette stans.
Kinda fucked up to use that old ass clip when there are many more recent clips of him speaking on this as well as putting over Nash and Hall
Its probably a rights issue.
lol how is it fucked up? cornette said it, so what's the problem?
@@h445 because he spoke on them long after that with a less baited mindset
“FUCK Bill Watts” 😂😂😂😂😂 I love Nash
LMAO yeah! 🤣🤣🤣
Ok, nobody really liked Watts, butt-fuck Nash!
Corny was right
1:06 Lmao kevin nash face expression 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao
So much for Cornette being on Sean Olive's show again
Whoa, a JCE clip with Alice on it? That is old AF. That said, Jim still hates the Curtain Call to this day.
Jim hates everything past 1983.
@@BabysitterSky LISTEN to what he says & there's things he likes in this day and age IF done right
@@ICHIBAN-cz8ih I do listen. About 6-7 hours a week between the two podcasts. It's him and Brian pissed off they have to talk about anything modern then acting like everything was amazing during the territories.
The taker/diesel build up was awesome
This is a very old Cornette take on the Curtain Call. Corny has walked back some of the vitriol and negativity towards Kevin Nash since this Clip from years ago. If anything, I would suggest using a more recent Clip of Jim's opinion.
Please next time make sure you use a more recent take from a person than an old Clip.
he said it, right? what does the age of the clip have to do with the content itself? nothing, just coping from dumb cornette stans.
Love that painting that’s in the background
I never was a big Kevin Nash fan back then when he wrestled in the Wwf. Nowadays after watching and listening to Kevin talk about wrestling history he comes off as being a very kind, sincere guy who values friendship and family. He has a genuine love for the wrestling industry and always looked out for the fellow wrestlers. Kevin has left his mark on the industry and was and still is a big star. Kevin Nash is alright in my book.
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He had 5 moves which included tearing a quad.
@@edman1357 You Indie wrestling fans are Spot monkey marks...
What did hall and nash do the last night?
Expose the truth of the industry?
Jim it wasn’t 1982 and the audience aren’t idiots.
All these guys were great for wrestling.
Isn’t that clip really old?
Imagine smoking a blunt with Nash and Cornette.
Love these 2 Nash and Oliver. But there has ro be a more recent clip of Cornette talking about the Curtain Call. This one is over 5 years old.
I appreciate this podcast. It’s best in the world. #Kliq #KliqThis #TooSweet
You're right. The Cornette Experience is the absolute best podcast in the world.
Firing Triple H would of been a huge mistake,Huge.
Also not paying the talent what they’re owed is just a scumbag move and just ridiculous to even bring up.
These guys made that era,and the contracts were pretty BS.
That’s why they left,money.
There was no "Triple H" in '96. He was going nowhere at the time. Linear passage of time is a thing.
Not paying talent who went into business for themselves and sabotaged the bookers' plans was standard at the time.
@@henrygvidonas9573 He was scheduled to win the King of the Ring in 96,but the Curtain Call happened. He also won the IC title in 96 and Mr Perfect was his manager until he left. They didn’t just hand out the IC Title to guys going nowhere back then.
They didn’t go into business themselves,first they did everything they had to in order to complete their contracts. During that time Razor kept asking for a pay bump,it was his idea to take and make money off the merchandise,they said no. They call them independent wrestlers,but can only work for one company and they get a guaranteed 1500 bucks back then,that’s it. Every other dollar they made was on them.
So I’d leave too if you have to work less than half your schedule for twice the money and it’s guaranteed. Razor really hooked up many wrestlers with this,and it helped all the talent get paid.
Plus even though it was not 96 in the first part of 97 Hunter win King of the Ring signifying his punishment was truly up and he and Shawn went on to form DX with Chyna.
So yeah firing the Blue Blood from Connecticut would of been stupid as hell and luckily Mr McMahon knew this,that’s why he punished him in 96 and didn’t fire him.
Hypotheticals about what has already happened in a person's life, like HHH, are useless. The man's life has played out and this is where he's at, at the top of the WWE. That's not hypothetical, it's what happened. Part of HHH's success are the decisions he makes, including who to network with. And he happened to network brilliantly, up to and including marrying the boss's daughter. So, no, HHH was never destined to be midcard for life.
I firmly believe that, while he may love Stephanie on some level now, love, or physical attraction, was not his primary reason for courting her. She has nothing in common aesthetically with the woman he cheated on for one thing. And he already attached himself to the most powerful guys in the business, despite not sharing in their proclivities for drugs and alcohol, for another. I think his passion for the business and determination to be the top guy, if not in fan reception then in terms of booking, led him to initiate a relationship with Steph. It was purely strategic IMO and even back then he had his eyes on succeeding Vince when he croaked. And take one guess who leaked Vince's payoffs to the WSJ.
@@dennishbergkamp triple Nose likes men. He’s Stephanie’s ‘beard’, if you’re familiar with the term
Triple Nobody is the Kevin federline of professional rasslin. He is a bland mid cArd job guy who is known to casual fans as “that weird, quiet, awkward big nosed guy who follows Chyna & Shawn Michaels around like some sort of lost stray dog....”. Without his relations to Michaels, Chyna, and the boss’s daughter, no one would know who he was lmfao
@@dennishbergkamp lol keep running around with this bs. 20 years he's been married to her with teenage kids now. What the fuck do you know about love? Triple H planned an elaborate coup on Vince's seat 23 years earlier in 1999? It's not like relationships break and the fact that he was breaking a company rule by being with owner's daughter that could potentially blacklist him if something goes wrong. You don't know a damn thing about it but you're out here with your stupid tin foil hat thinking everything went the way Triple H planned. I wonder why he never created a contingency plan for getting a heart attack.
Gotta love cornette 🤣🤣💯
Is there a more recent clip? Because using an old ass clip is a bit of a hatchet job guys.
Ooooold material
I love this podcast. Great great fun content. Much Excite
I’m just here to see if any quads get torn
I like that Nash called out that this was probably a old podcast that Jim did years ago (It is btw). Not taking the bait. Jim has changed his tune just a little bit with Nash and Scott Hall over the years.
Really gives some perspective into Jarrett wanting his earned money before he did the job for Chyna
Nash: “….F Bill Watts”
Hilarious segment.
3:22
🤬 Bill Watts !
God, that clip was from 6 or more years ago! Wow, really diggin up stuff from History! The Biz was completely different in the 90s.
Scott actually missed Wrestlemania becuase he failed a drug test and was suspended. Cornette is 100% right. Nash while he is a good on screen talent is responsible for doing a lot of stupid shit he won't take responsibility for. The curtain call is one of them. If Nash and Shawn had told Vince what they were gonna do he would have told them absolutely not. Acting like Vince gave them permission to go out and hug and kiss in the ring is preposterous.
Then you don't know Vince McMahon very well..of course he would, he's done a lot of stupid stuff
@@josiah1218 I forgot you're his best friend. 🤡 Vince in 96 absolutely would not have allowed that. This has been confirmed by the people who were there. It's absolutely hilarious that people like you say something that's been debunked for 26 years by multiple people. 🤦♂️
Scott Hall had admitted last year that Vince did know about this. He said that it was Shawn's idea to have Razor come out to the ring after the match. He admitted that he was there in Vince's office, when Shawn came in and proposed this idea. Vince reluctantly agreed to it as well. 🍀
@@siddharthakumar6467 yeah. I understand they asked Vince if Scott and Hunter could come out and Vince agreed. Nobody is disputing that. Whats in dispute is the fact that if they had told Vince they planned on hugging, kissing, and being best buds in the middle of the ring in Madison Square Garden he would have flat out told them no. Hence why Vince got upset afterwards.
@@MetlKen87 Yes, true. Fair point. 🍀
That's an old clip. Alice instead of Brian.
Nash doesn't want to talk to much sh*t about Cornette because he knows the backlash from Cornette would be relentless.
Sounds like Cornette doesn't know how contracts work.
"Fuck Bill Watts "
I Laughed out loud with the way Kevin said that
I'm here to tell you, there's no way Nash is beating up even a 56 year old Bill Watts. Hall maybe had a chance being a bouncer for years Triple H no, HBK HELL no. Bill Was a tough salty old fella who would wear steel toecap cowboy boot and would split your nutsack with them if he had to, he'd also go for the eyes.
I'm still amazed at how wrestling hasn't bled the shoot interviews into storylines, worked shoots are the only thing that is going to bring back any realism.
The problem with worked shoots is it makes all other storylines look even faker than they are. "Hey guys, this angle is a real shoot. We swear. Up next, the fake stuff." But that's just my opinion.
@@ts9332 I meant all storylines should come from "real" backstage things. There is no kayfabe anymore but what I mean is these shoots all on TH-cam, if done as works without us knowing would be a good way to get kayfabe going again. Not just TH-cam I mean wrestling should use the other media they are on and blurring wether they're shooting or cutting a promo. I just think they are missing a trick here
Wrestling ain't real bro everyone relax........
@@rambo_on_pills945 I agree, I think social media could actually be used to strengthen kayfabe to a certain extent.
@@ts9332 100%
Respect too Big Sexy grew up watching Nash always thought he was the coolest guy on the card 🇬🇧 🇵🇰
That Cornette clip is one of his oldest podcast clips. That woman he spoke to has been gone for years. Good God Oliver, you had to go that far back to obtain something to talk about??? KLIQ THIS!!!
Sean likes to stir the pot for "content". That's his business, so who can blame him.
@@henrygvidonas9573 I can blame him. It's no different then me taking a clip from something you said 5-10 years ago. If Cornette still felt that way today in a relatively modern clip, I'd understand. But to take a clip from over 5 years ago is bush league.
he said it, right? what does the age of the clip have to do with the content itself? nothing, just coping from dumb cornette stans.
Nash surprised me here. He handled that with class.
Next Sean Mooney will interview Ronnie Garvin and ask him what he thought of Corny's Challenger insult.
The title should be "Kevin Nash buries Bill Watts"
This video was like 10 years ago
Digging up incredibly old clips to rag on.
I love both Nash and corny so it’s funny to see.
I like both parties involved here 🫡
Nash, you don’t want to get in a promo shoot fight with Cornette. He’s undefeated.
why wasn't X-Pac in the curtain call?