JJ, I think you hit the nail right on the head. The SEC & Big Ten are gonna break away from the NCAA, and then form a College Football Super League. The question is not IF, but WHEN. And if the ACC & Big 12 are smart, they'll join the SEC & Big Ten. And personally, I hope you get to see Pitt join this Super League that'll be forming. It'll be exciting to see Pitt do their best to hang with the Big Boys. Keep up the good work!
West Virginia fan here (don't shoot...lol). I think a league of 60-70 schools breaking away makes total sense. And I don't think you'd have too many people complaining about it. Let's face it, Outside of the top 60-70 programs, there is no need for some of these schools to be included. Take the current power 4 and let them figure out a way to involve the most deserving 60-70 schools. Four 16 team leagues would be 64 schools. Four 18 league schools would be 72 schools. Four 20 league schools would be 80. There is really no need for 120 plus schools. There are about 40 schools that will NEVER sniff playoff contention.
@@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen they certainly could, but the whole point of condensing the pie is 1. To escape the NCAA 2. To condense the revenue stream to a specific group of programs. Sure they would immediately escape the NCAA, but I am not sure that they have successfully convinced ESPN and FOX yet to jump on board. They will at some point, but this is a lot of money we are talking about. My dumb guess is 6-8 years away. The media market is tight and we are seeing a bit of a hesitation from ESPN to go above 1.3 billion on the playoffs. If you can’t continue asking for a bigger pie, they will try to cut others off of the pie and keep more of what is there for themselves. The problem is that the media still needs volume of content. They will have to figure that out.
I would agree. That why I think none of those teams would look to join unless there was a merger. Even if FSU, Clemson, and UNC left the ACC would still be at 14 and fines the question is, does ESPN exercise the option in 2026.
@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen if I had to guess, ESPN would probably renew, but at a much lower rate. I don't think there would be a rush to join the Big 12 due to increased travel costs and loss of traditional rivalries. Besides, for some teams the ACC is the only realistic option going forward.
@@Patrick-sg7cm at that point I could see them adding teams. And I could see them paying $40-$50 million and not the $70 million that is scheduled to be paid in 2030.
ACC fan from birth, TarHeel's all the way. I've always believed the ACC was over-rated in basketball & under-rated in football. The "Power 4" scenario would certainly be of the most benefit to the ACC, though I don't think the rank & file members of the SEC would "vote" for bringing them or the B12 along with them. If it ends up being just the SEC/B1G leaving on their own, The ACC & B12 along with all other NCAA affiliated schools should LOCK-OUT the SEC/B1G from ALL other college-level athletic events. There would be 2 totally separate associations with ZERO inter-play between them.
I couldn't agree with you more on the football part. I really do believe that the ACC is really good in basketball, but when you look at football, the conference is pretty good in my opinion. You look at the amount of teams that succeed along with Clemson dominating in the CFB Playoff, Mack Brown now developing to great QBs at UNC, and how hard some of these games are to win, i would agree that the ACC is very underrated in football. Especially now with Florida State, NC State, Duke, and more showing promise as well.
I think it will certainly help. I think its a good sign for the ACC for example because each year the amount of TV distributions have gone up. By 2030, the ACC will be distributing $70 million to each team in the league if ESPN executes the option in 2025 to keep paying the league.
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JJ, I think you hit the nail right on the head. The SEC & Big Ten are gonna break away from the NCAA, and then form a College Football Super League. The question is not IF, but WHEN. And if the ACC & Big 12 are smart, they'll join the SEC & Big Ten. And personally, I hope you get to see Pitt join this Super League that'll be forming. It'll be exciting to see Pitt do their best to hang with the Big Boys. Keep up the good work!
West Virginia fan here (don't shoot...lol). I think a league of 60-70 schools breaking away makes total sense. And I don't think you'd have too many people complaining about it. Let's face it, Outside of the top 60-70 programs, there is no need for some of these schools to be included.
Take the current power 4 and let them figure out a way to involve the most deserving 60-70 schools. Four 16 team leagues would be 64 schools. Four 18 league schools would be 72 schools. Four 20 league schools would be 80. There is really no need for 120 plus schools. There are about 40 schools that will NEVER sniff playoff contention.
I completely agree with you on this. I see the top 68-70 teams going for sure. Also, excited for the Backyard Brawl as always!
I could see the move happening as soon as the curtent CFP contract expires
Same here Will. I could also see them announcing it in the coming year so they have a year to prep as well.
This probably happens down the road but not anytime soon. There are more urgent and immediate risks out there
Idk. I think they are moving pretty quickly. Even quicker than I originally thought.
@@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen they certainly could, but the whole point of condensing the pie is 1. To escape the NCAA 2. To condense the revenue stream to a specific group of programs. Sure they would immediately escape the NCAA, but I am not sure that they have successfully convinced ESPN and FOX yet to jump on board. They will at some point, but this is a lot of money we are talking about. My dumb guess is 6-8 years away.
The media market is tight and we are seeing a bit of a hesitation from ESPN to go above 1.3 billion on the playoffs. If you can’t continue asking for a bigger pie, they will try to cut others off of the pie and keep more of what is there for themselves. The problem is that the media still needs volume of content. They will have to figure that out.
If the SEC and the B1G break away, joining the Big 12 won't make any difference for the ACC teams left behind.
I would agree. That why I think none of those teams would look to join unless there was a merger. Even if FSU, Clemson, and UNC left the ACC would still be at 14 and fines the question is, does ESPN exercise the option in 2026.
@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen if I had to guess, ESPN would probably renew, but at a much lower rate. I don't think there would be a rush to join the Big 12 due to increased travel costs and loss of traditional rivalries. Besides, for some teams the ACC is the only realistic option going forward.
@@Patrick-sg7cm at that point I could see them adding teams. And I could see them paying $40-$50 million and not the $70 million that is scheduled to be paid in 2030.
ACC fan from birth, TarHeel's all the way. I've always believed the ACC was over-rated in basketball & under-rated in football. The "Power 4" scenario would certainly be of the most benefit to the ACC, though I don't think the rank & file members of the SEC would "vote" for bringing them or the B12 along with them. If it ends up being just the SEC/B1G leaving on their own, The ACC & B12 along with all other NCAA affiliated schools should LOCK-OUT the SEC/B1G from ALL other college-level athletic events. There would be 2 totally separate associations with ZERO inter-play between them.
I couldn't agree with you more on the football part. I really do believe that the ACC is really good in basketball, but when you look at football, the conference is pretty good in my opinion. You look at the amount of teams that succeed along with Clemson dominating in the CFB Playoff, Mack Brown now developing to great QBs at UNC, and how hard some of these games are to win, i would agree that the ACC is very underrated in football. Especially now with Florida State, NC State, Duke, and more showing promise as well.
Do you think the ESPN TV deal with the 12 game playoff system will have direct effect to the universities on earning more money sooner?? H2P💙💛
I think it will certainly help. I think its a good sign for the ACC for example because each year the amount of TV distributions have gone up. By 2030, the ACC will be distributing $70 million to each team in the league if ESPN executes the option in 2025 to keep paying the league.