Cart Wheel is probably the best metaphor for how not to "arm the ball too much". I came from training 2 years of badminton competitively as a teenager. The power generation of a badminton hit (which can be extremely fast at contact) came a lot from first dipping the elbow, then exploding upwards with a lagged and relaxed arm, but without as much back scratching. So I can hit 100 miles tennis flat serves quite easily just with this motion. But this puts tremendous stress on my elbow. I suspect this is similar to how many players "arm the ball" too much, using the correct legs and hips and rotation, but without using the cart wheeling motion. Adding the cart wheeling motion is quite the game changer for me; I'll try to measure the speed increase next time :D thanks so much Nik!
6:19 - Demonstration of no cart wheel vs cart wheel 7:40 - Why the cartwheel is so important Thanks Nick, I appreciate that your videos go beyond the basics into the nitty gritty, really allowing for fine tuning and optimizing my technique.
A great way to optimize the serve movement with a visual representation. In general, I have to say that it is much easier for players to learn movement sequences if you try to provide visual imagination. For example, you can make the serving movement much more rhythmic if you imagine the movement like a film that runs over and over again. That would be, for example, a mental image. Keep on the great work!
So much good information was handed out in this video, I'll have to watch it multiple times and break it down into segments. But I feel like this will help with improving my serve, as I tend to not do any of the things you mentioned 👀👀
I was totally unaware of this cartwheel movement😮. Is this something that could related to the shoulder turn on groundstrokes? Btw, a guy from your hometown, Split, won Banjaluka challenger on Sunday. Dino Prizmic, 18-year-old Junior French Open champion, won the title. What a crazy level of tennis did he display in the final - powerful shots, speed and all court coverage.... amazing level👏
Awesome...Glad you brought this up. Believe it or not I actually taught myself how to serve like this which happened after my playing career unfortunately! Frances Tiafoe comes to mind in not possessing the cartwheel serve which I'm surprised he doesn't have & hopefully he comes across this video. 😎
@@IntuitiveTennisWouldn't his shoulders need to be at a 45 degree angle (tilt) to possess the cartwheel that you demonstrated or it's not necessary? Btw...You have a nice serve motion. 👍
I struggle with dropping the tossing arm, after watching the video, I now wonder if it's because I do not generate enough of a shoulder tilt. I definitely have a racket drop leak, will work on the tips you gave in video. Thank you for helping us recreational players with your TH-cam channel.
Love this! Great stuff man. Thanks for sharing your ideas. When it comes to breaking down footage of your students or the pros, what software do you use? Something like “onForm” app? I’m wondering which one to use for breaking down footage
Hi Nick it seem that the pros a contact the shoulders a facing the net, so all the tilt and the drop is coming in a upward motion to the top of contact point, so in order to have control of the aim you then activate the arm. The cartwheel has to slow down an not give you too much momentum.
There’s a video of Patrick.M coaching a young Asian girl on the serve and she has this similar but fluid motion in her serve. That was the first time the serve clicked for me.
What I found out for myself is that when I cartwheel, after contact, if my right shoulder stops moving and still pointing to the sky, the first serve rarely lands inside the service box. However, if my shoulder points more in front, meaning my body is more horizontal, the ball lands in quite consistanly. So now I always consciously try to cartwheel "deeper" after contact.
@@IamnotJohnFord I am indeed saying that. I have made little progress despite lots of input and effort. I have never seen any adult who took the sport up as an adult with what I would regard as a decent service motion. I am sure it happens, but in my experience it has been rare. If you or others have done it, kudos!
@@IamnotJohnFord I can only go by the evidence I've seen, over a large number of years in several tennis settings. But perhaps I've just not been in the right place at the right time. As I said, if you or others you know have managed to make significant improvements then that's great.
Hi! Nick: Some coach is teaching “ Modern serve” on TH-cam and did not seemed to face forward at the contact point..some elite players seemed to adopt that(Nadal? De Minaur? Rune?). Could you talk about that? Thks!
It is part of shifting the weight forward into the ball to utilize the whole body and to create forward momentum. Lifting the left toe means the weight is on his back foot. When he starts the service motion he is transferring his weight to his front foot again and simultaneously starting the toss motion
Great, what is for worse I'm fifty and after one hour of play I feel a little bit tired. And my technique is more slapdash. Even I can run 20km or one mile per 5:40min
Thanks for the video and the demos. But I’m beginning to think that the idea of a cartwheel is more trouble than it’s worth. In my experience focusing more on the “tilt” as a way to load and set up the proper “launch angle” creates a better mental image. One of the biggest problem for red players and others is bringing the front shoulder down too much or too soon. “Cartwheel” encourages that thinking. The other missing piece here is that in order for the ISR / “pronation” to take place properly the body has to be tilted the other way at contact. In summary, focusing more on launch angle and leaning forward / leaning into the ball at contact does all the work of the cartwheel analogy without the downsides.
The “cartwheel” is the result, meant for analysis, not the cue. The cue Nik provides is to get the toss arm all the way up in the trophy position. He then provides extra context for other power loss mechanisms such as a shallow toss and/or racquet leak. Few downsides seen here. To assume your cue doesn’t have any because it clicks for you is presumptuous at best.
I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with NIk. He probably used the word cartwheel because it is often searched. I am saying the word cartwheel confuses people, which it does according to Nik also.@@user-oj7co5wm8g
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I really wanted to see you do a cartwheel.
😂😂 not risking it
Cart Wheel is probably the best metaphor for how not to "arm the ball too much".
I came from training 2 years of badminton competitively as a teenager. The power generation of a badminton hit (which can be extremely fast at contact) came a lot from first dipping the elbow, then exploding upwards with a lagged and relaxed arm, but without as much back scratching. So I can hit 100 miles tennis flat serves quite easily just with this motion. But this puts tremendous stress on my elbow. I suspect this is similar to how many players "arm the ball" too much, using the correct legs and hips and rotation, but without using the cart wheeling motion.
Adding the cart wheeling motion is quite the game changer for me; I'll try to measure the speed increase next time :D thanks so much Nik!
6:19 - Demonstration of no cart wheel vs cart wheel
7:40 - Why the cartwheel is so important
Thanks Nick, I appreciate that your videos go beyond the basics into the nitty gritty, really allowing for fine tuning and optimizing my technique.
🙏🙌💯
Great lesson Nik. #1 serve coach o TH-cam for sure.
I appreciate that!
A great way to optimize the serve movement with a visual representation. In general, I have to say that it is much easier for players to learn movement sequences if you try to provide visual imagination. For example, you can make the serving movement much more rhythmic if you imagine the movement like a film that runs over and over again. That would be, for example, a mental image. Keep on the great work!
New Intuitive Tennis video?
Today is a good day 😎
yes sir!!!!!
like a new anime episode XD
Thanks guys. More to come…
Thanks for the arrow visual. That really got the point across for me.
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic video! I certainly remember the day when I kept my hand up a lot longer and how much extra power I obtained, it made a huge difference!
Right on!
So much good information was handed out in this video, I'll have to watch it multiple times and break it down into segments. But I feel like this will help with improving my serve, as I tend to not do any of the things you mentioned 👀👀
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Hello Nick! I really learn a lot with your videos. I live in South America but hope some day I can travel to Florida and take classes with you.
very helpfull, good explained
This is extremely helpful and vital information. Thank you so much 😊🎾🥇
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I was totally unaware of this cartwheel movement😮. Is this something that could related to the shoulder turn on groundstrokes?
Btw, a guy from your hometown, Split, won Banjaluka challenger on Sunday. Dino Prizmic, 18-year-old Junior French Open champion, won the title. What a crazy level of tennis did he display in the final - powerful shots, speed and all court coverage.... amazing level👏
Dino is a big talent. Hope to see him in top 100 soon. 🙏
Awesome...Glad you brought this up. Believe it or not I actually taught myself how to serve like this which happened after my playing career unfortunately! Frances Tiafoe comes to mind in not possessing the cartwheel serve which I'm surprised he doesn't have & hopefully he comes across this video. 😎
Tiafoe has a complex serve with a unorthodox loading (late), but he does posses a cartwheel movement
@@IntuitiveTennisWouldn't his shoulders need to be at a 45 degree angle (tilt) to possess the cartwheel that you demonstrated or it's not necessary? Btw...You have a nice serve motion. 👍
Thank you for this information!!
You are welcome!
I struggle with dropping the tossing arm, after watching the video, I now wonder if it's because I do not generate enough of a shoulder tilt. I definitely have a racket drop leak, will work on the tips you gave in video. Thank you for helping us recreational players with your TH-cam channel.
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Wow amazing advice
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This application of the technique in your lecture of performing tennis elements encourages the expected success.
Love this! Great stuff man. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
When it comes to breaking down footage of your students or the pros, what software do you use? Something like “onForm” app? I’m wondering which one to use for breaking down footage
Hi Nick it seem that the pros a contact the shoulders a facing the net, so all the tilt and the drop is coming in a upward motion to the top of contact point, so in order to have control of the aim you then activate the arm. The cartwheel has to slow down an not give you too much momentum.
Thanks for this Nick. Very few coaches both on and off line talk about the cartwheel and how to executecit effectively.
Glad it was helpful!
There’s a video of Patrick.M coaching a young Asian girl on the serve and she has this similar but fluid motion in her serve. That was the first time the serve clicked for me.
Nice video as always, how Roddik had a car wheell i wonder
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What I found out for myself is that when I cartwheel, after contact, if my right shoulder stops moving and still pointing to the sky, the first serve rarely lands inside the service box. However, if my shoulder points more in front, meaning my body is more horizontal, the ball lands in quite consistanly. So now I always consciously try to cartwheel "deeper" after contact.
majestic tree in the background, it looks very climbable
Haha might be filled with snakes ☠️
best tennis channel to learn tennis!
Thank you so much 🙏
Why is the tennis serve so difficult?
Great video Nick! 😀😀
Indeed, IMO almost impossible to learn properly/improve significantly as an adult, unless you are exceptionally gifted.
@@julianpenfold1638 Are you saying an old dog can't learn a new trick? Yes, they can. I've seen adults take up tennis and develop very nice serves.
@@IamnotJohnFord I am indeed saying that. I have made little progress despite lots of input and effort. I have never seen any adult who took the sport up as an adult with what I would regard as a decent service motion. I am sure it happens, but in my experience it has been rare. If you or others have done it, kudos!
@@julianpenfold1638 So, if you can't do it, and you haven't seen someone do it, it must not be a thing? Okay. Not going to argue with that logic.
@@IamnotJohnFord I can only go by the evidence I've seen, over a large number of years in several tennis settings. But perhaps I've just not been in the right place at the right time. As I said, if you or others you know have managed to make significant improvements then that's great.
Hi! Nick: Some coach is teaching “ Modern serve” on TH-cam and did not seemed to face forward at the contact point..some elite players seemed to adopt that(Nadal? De Minaur? Rune?). Could you talk about that? Thks!
Most elite players do not face forward at contact, they're often at a 45° angle to the net.
Excellent
what is the racquet he is using
How does lifting the left toe at the beginning of the serve work with cartwheel?
It is part of shifting the weight forward into the ball to utilize the whole body and to create forward momentum. Lifting the left toe means the weight is on his back foot. When he starts the service motion he is transferring his weight to his front foot again and simultaneously starting the toss motion
What is your new white racket?
It’s the same Babolat Pure Drive Plus he’s been using for years. He just spray painted it white.
Fantastic
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Exelent…
Great, what is for worse I'm fifty and after one hour of play I feel a little bit tired. And my technique is more slapdash. Even I can run 20km or one mile per 5:40min
Thanks for the video and the demos. But I’m beginning to think that the idea of a cartwheel is more trouble than it’s worth. In my experience focusing more on the “tilt” as a way to load and set up the proper “launch angle” creates a better mental image. One of the biggest problem for red players and others is bringing the front shoulder down too much or too soon. “Cartwheel” encourages that thinking. The other missing piece here is that in order for the ISR / “pronation” to take place properly the body has to be tilted the other way at contact.
In summary, focusing more on launch angle and leaning forward / leaning into the ball at contact does all the work of the cartwheel analogy without the downsides.
The “cartwheel” is the result, meant for analysis, not the cue. The cue Nik provides is to get the toss arm all the way up in the trophy position. He then provides extra context for other power loss mechanisms such as a shallow toss and/or racquet leak. Few downsides seen here. To assume your cue doesn’t have any because it clicks for you is presumptuous at best.
I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with NIk. He probably used the word cartwheel because it is often searched. I am saying the word cartwheel confuses people, which it does according to Nik also.@@user-oj7co5wm8g
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