Vaseline Instead of Rosin Flux. Is it Possible?
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- Can you use Vaseline (petroleum jelly) in the place of rosin flux when soldering? In this video I attempt to re-flow two connections that had broken over time with my soldering iron and Vaseline.
Weird flux but ok.
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omg hahahaha
I use KY jelly instead of Vaseline with the boys. Would if do for soldering as well?
What are you talking about rosin is everywhere in Canada I live in Manitoba and have three pine trees on my property
pine rosin made flux is healthier to use than synthetic flux shame that in my country pine trees are no easy to find
That was indeed hard to believe. Canada already in a rosin shortage?
Maybe now in 2023, after the wildfire season ?
@@werner.x lmao come buy rosin from me then in western Manitoba I have jugs of it I havest from my trees and there is no fires remotely close to me at all nor have there been in years
Will pine sap really work? I feel it would burn
you are a mad man! i love it!!
OMG I was beginning to think you were going to spend 3 out of the 4 minutes showing how you spread vaseline !
After misplacing my paste flux, I found this video and tried the petroleum jelly as a flowing flux to solder 2 wires and as far for flowing the solder it doesn't work as a flux, it just globbed and actually caused the solder to ball up to where I had to clean the connection and resoldered without... So this will be considered false information in my line and not recommended.
Would mixing powdered ascorbic acid with Vaseline help with shedding oxides from surface?
I just used citric acid
This flux thing is new for me I've never used it. Still unsure about it because the cleaning seems more problematic than simply wiping the corrosion off before soldering.
Another problem is that vaseline is a petroleum based gel, which can likely deteriorate pcbs or any plastic components
Just had to point out that the vaselin comes from a PLASTIC container...
@@Formula400Pontiac not every plastic is the same, nylon for example does not react to petroleum based gels or substances
You can look at the "recycling" logo and see what it's PP code is
@@Formula400Pontiac Also I don't remember ever seeing pcbs or components having any PP code, so it'll very likely mess it up if you're not too careful, even if it'll take years before it really does harm
@@tydshiin5783 lol pp code
@@pyrojason polypropylene, but yes funni haha
Small amounts of rosin is available in every pharmacy and in almost any music shop as it is used for violins 😉
Violin rosin is hard, not like soldering flux. If you try melting it, it will become very tacky, and probably burn to your iron.
Violin rosin is meant to rub off as a powder onto the bow, which goves the bow hair more traction on the strings, thus creating the sound.
Also, I just realized, I don't think you'll ever see violin roswin in a pharmacy.
break off rosin, smash to powder, mix in alcohol, rosin flux.
@@stuartmunson Alcohol would immedtely boil off, just leaving you wityh the same situation.
@@marktwain3531 That's nonsense. Rosin dissolved in isopropyl alcohol is the basic formula for electronics soldering flux that has been use for many decades. It's not some backyard substitute, it's the basis of the actual product you would be sold as soldering flux, and many of us prefer to buy it in its hard, undissolved form. I wouldn't recommend bow rosin simply because the rosin sold for that purpose is too expensive, presumably it's a different grade. I can buy pure activated rosin, sold for the intended purpose of soldering flux, by the kilo here in electronics stores.
@@Degenerate76 The flux I use is not alcohol based, nor is it easy to find alcohol based flux here (for that reason). And if you're replying to the violin rosin, no, it would not make a good rosin. I knw this because I've been playing the violin for years, and know what the rosin is made out of. It is essentially a processed tree sap, and would burn very easily.
The answer is no. It doesn't carry the oxides away. From reddit: "...only performs the function of keeping air out of the joint but none of the de-oxidation that rosin flux does. You can technically solder with petroleum jelly but it would be the same as just soldering without flux or petroleum jelly, lol. It gives zero benefit."
Oh yeah I remember reading that reddit page a while back. Well, depends on how you look at it. I mentioned at the end of the video that there are no de-oxidizing properties in vaseline, as you mentioned. From my own experience I would argue that using vaseline is a definite step above soldering dry, but certainly not at all a long-term replacement for rosin.
If you have no soldering Flux, Vaseline will work, and you can combine lemon juice for it's cleaning properties.
I'm having the same problem with a little connector likes yours in my cordless handset.
Had you tried mixing in with the petroleum jelly , alcohol base stuff, or denatured alcohol,or rubbing alcohol along them lines as a de oxidizer
As long as It works and works oke, Thankyou Mr !!
A small container of flux cost me $19 Ass yesterday Just before I watched yr video.
Just use flux ffs!
I need Flux, I do not have Flux, TH-cam to the rescue!!
Rosin also cleans copper well, like an acid, but doesn't seem to eat the tip so fast. That said, I've used jelly, and in fact it's the base for plumber's flux.
Rosin is, in fact, composed entirely of acids (mainly adipic acid, IIRC). It’s just an acid that is not active whatsoever at room temperature!
Nowadays here in California, water based flux is required :(
@@kylekoenig4730 Says who? I can’t find any evidence of such a requirement. Can you point me towards a source?
Just amazing, thank you
why is soldering and desoldering so difficult? Do you know any tutorials that explain it really really easy so that even I can solder?
Here you go friend
th-cam.com/video/Zu3TYBs65FM/w-d-xo.html
What sort of problems are you having?
It just takes practice, practice, practice. You can even by soldering practice kits on AliExpress that are around $5 so you can hone your skills. Also watch Louis Rossmann on TH-cam. Thousands of hours of soldering to learn from. He's liteerally the Solder King Of New York!!!! Maybe the world!!!
Keep your tips clean and shiny. And flux is your friend.
This video series, despite being ancient, explains soldering better than anything I have ever found. It is absolutely worth the 40 minutes or so: th-cam.com/play/PL926EC0F1F93C1837.html&si=QrJNL5kd54G9wdka
Thanks for sharing this video,,cheers🍺
Good stuff 👍
If it doesn't do anything without cleaning it first, then maybe it's the cleaning that does something and not the Vaseline.
Rosin is not hard to find.
I came just to say no it obviously won't work.😂
if i can fix my sons ps3 tomorrow using this trick. I will forever be in your debt. This version of the ps3 is getting harder and harder to find and he finally found one a few months back and I broke the power connector on the motherboard while re applying thermal paste.
So did it work or not?
Poop instead of chocolate, Is it possible?
This must be what The Flaming Lips meant by "She uses vaseline" :P
I use KY. easier too clean.
The world has gone mad.
use violin rezone
I say Vaseline, you say Vazoline
Potatos, Potàtos, , , 🤤
But I could be wrong... 😳
Grrrrh! It's vaSeline not vaZeline; says so right on the jar. Please don't mimic your American cousins in mincing the English language.
Use proper flux. It's hard enough soldering smd components as it is without throwing in bathroom products that don't work well.
Short answer: NO.
It won't work and you have shown it doesn't work. Whilst it may _feel_ OK, it is clear from the lack of the convex shape of the solder bridge that the solder hasn't wetted to the pins. That's no surprise as the main function of solder rosin is to provide a heat-activated acid that removes any oxide layer so the solder can wet to the substrate. That is a poor solder joint that can be visually easily identified as a fail even if it _feels_ secure. For electronics soldering the simple solution is to use a rosin-cored solder; no extra rosin needed. Good ones are non-corrosive in their cold state but best practice is to remove the excess rosin anyway afterwards.
so could it still work for desoldering purposes?
That Vaseline jar was awfully empty 🤔
DON'T KNOW why but yep, it works.....thanks
Err, was I the only one who saw the connector move exactly the same way at the end?😕
Thank you
3:31 - Yes but it doesn't clean as well.
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*This was actually pretty cool, and I'm definitely going to be trying this out!! I've only just gotten into soldering(maybe a month or so),.. and had do idea how to do it!! I also can't fide the flux so I'm hoping this'll help my situation* 👌🏼
*Thanks, Brother*
I bet you have gallons of vaseline next to your bed.
as a beginner def get real flux.... flux is the key to soldering... don't want you to get frustrated.
any hardware store has flux, for very hard to solder things get "acid flux" but it is obviously corrosive, not normally used for electronics.
Cant find flux ? thats what the amazon or aliexpress were made.. its not expensive.
Wouldn't it work much better if you mix borax into vaseline?
No
You can clean with alcohol first?
Alcohol will clean around the pad, but not the pad itself. Rosin flux is what cleans the pad.
Vaseline ,wax and sunflower oil
Ive used dishwashing liquid as a water based flux, and it works pretty well, but not as well as a good flux like rosin or amtech. You may also be able to find flux at a hobby shop, or hardware store. Sometimes I use plumbing flux on stubborn hard to solder connections because its super aggressive. Make sure to clean off any flux that you use, as its often very corrosive.
Ive used borax powdered soap for gas welding too, it might also work for soldering
@@hippynurd Really? Can you explain? What type of welding process, and what metals? Are you talking using it as a sub for shielding gas?
@@TheDivergentDrummer welding steel with acetylene gas torch welding and steel welding rods, you heat the rod, dip it in a cup of borax to coat it, then heat up the 2 metal pieces and apply the fluxed rod filler. Can you use a shielding gas with gas welding? ive never seen that.
You can also do brazing with a gas torch, and thats more like soldering than welding, and works good with non ferrous metals like copper and brass.
@@hippynurd OHH! Yes, I remember that from grade 9 shop class lol. Still have that magazine rack lol.
0:00 - 0:12 Flux’s thermal conductivity properties are secondary at best. That’s not what flux’s purpose is.
0:15 “rosin also has deoxidizing properties”… Yeah, that’s its entire purpose: to remove oxides and prevent the formation of new ones.
0:35 Vaseline is _not_ superficially similar to rosin: rosin is a hard, brittle, plastic-like resin. Rosin-based _flux_ comes in multiple forms, including liquid (doesn’t resemble room-temperature Vaseline at all) and paste (which does have a similar texture, because it often uses Vaseline as the filler: the Vaseline is not the active ingredient!). Choosing a substitute based not on the active ingredient, but on tangential properties of the finished product is idiotic. It’s like saying “I’m out of heart medication, but these other pills look similar, so let’s try them and see how it goes!” or “I’m out of flour, but I found this plaster of paris in my garage that looks like a white powder, too, so I’ll use that in my cookies instead.”
I'm an amateur wen it comes to soldering, but in da past I've read dat petroleum jelly is jus as efficient as commercial grade rosin flux and it does everything da same as well as preventing oxidation cuz of da many minerals n water properties in petroleum jelly!!!!! I've spoken in a few forums n stated my knowledge of PJ as usable as a soldering flux and was laughed at, but didn't bother me none cuz I knew exactly wat da hell I was talking about even doh I've never even soldered anything in my life, but my resource was beyond reliable so I knew better den dem damn fool's and I've never seen it done before till jus now which jus confirmed wat I already knew n jus proves da "Expert's" to actually be "Novice's" speaking electronics blasphemy n jus full of foolery!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! N actually I think I'm actually gonna try to solder my first electronics for my very first time tonight, and jus wanted to kinda know how/where/n how much PJ I to put why I watched ur video!!!!! My precious flashlight needs some soldering, but dats not wat I'm gonna solder being my first go at it!!!!! Am gonna break down some LED light bulbs n get some practice work with dem fir few days before I even attempt da real deal!!!!! Thanks for posting n sharing this knowledge!!!!! Gotta start somewhere right?????
That was hard to read.
This idiots English teacher must be so proud.
HEY DUDE,,,WHY DO YOU SOUND LIKE YOUR WRITING WITH A RUSIAN OR GERMAN ACCENT. AND IF YOUR AN AMATEUR ON SOLDERING THEN HOW CAN YOU CAN YOU HOLD A FORUM ON A TOPIC YOUR AN AMATEUR IN? OH YA THAT WAS PJ,S PYJAMAS,,,OOPS OR WAS IT PEANUT BUTTER & JAM,,,,YA JUST MIX PEANUT & BUTTER TOGETHER & IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A GOOD SOLDERING FLUX,,,,, VIE DON U GIV EH AGO I BEDD IT VORX TO MANN. PB&J A NEW FLUX & IT SMELLS BETTER TOO. HEY ONLY KIDIN DUDE SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW YOUR PJ,S
"I knew better den dem damn fools" 😜. Oh you so gangsta 🤣.
First, it's not pronounced 'SOUL'dering flux! Try 'SODDERING' flux! Rest of video is equally useless. Rating: 1
Wow what a child you have a temper tantrum when things are not up to your expectations grow up little girl.
Americans pronounce it 'soddering' whilst Canadians and British pronounce it 'soldering'.
Vive la difference!☺
@@museonfilm8919 Exactly. Most people don’t realize that Americans bastardized other people’s languages because they were illiterate and couldn’t pronounce words properly lol!
American teaching pronunciation 🤣🤣🤣
There's an L in soldering, clown.