@@susmitgupta2932 6C is the sweetspot for overall computing coz its the mid toer and the mid tier pricing is aways the most competitive. As for gaming, i'd say 4C8T or 6C6T still reigns supreme
I got 10100f 1y ago, its good for my World of warships 2K(75pfs avg at low/med settings, with some drops), gpu i have 1050 2G since 2017, nothing affordable since last year for gpu upgrade. Found 2060S would hit probably 1perc lows with 60pfs, but that pricing now... you know. Since my cpu/mb/ram upgrade(old was AMD K8-7660 4c/4t 4x3,1GHz, 8GB DDR3/1866, new one already mentioned i3-10100f 4c/8t 4x3,6/4,3, 16GB DD4/2666) i got maybe 10percent higher avg fps, but mainly double 1perc lows, far better experience. Maybe 10400 would help another 10fps 1perc low more, but i dont think its that upgrade worthy. MSI afterburner shows 25perc+ cpu utilization, but ingame not over 50, so I guess upto 4xmore powerfull gpu could go in). That Intel desktop is expected to come in q2 2022, hmm. Whoever is low budget, dont worry to pick this cpu. Finally i found this cpu really energy saving, my power draw dropped with upgrade by 20-40W, probably thx to lower utilization. P. S. My MB is Gigabyte Aorus B460 Pro, but i guess you can pick st even cheaper, I just wanted pick something solid for my build, but that RGB feature is disabled, lol.
@@zenix0-0 Idk what price for 2060 you get right now. Seems worst time to buy gpu at current pricing. It depends alot on game you prefer and settings, mainly resolution and targeted fps. I did few things before making this "2060s performance level decision". (note I dont have that rtx, I deny to spend st like 600usd+) So I set gpu drivers to resolution planned to game in(even my monitor didnt support it, I could create custom resolution over those active monitor detected) So I made in gpu drivers 2560x1440 and set it ingame) Also checked MSI afterburner gpu and cpu load. Finally few benchmarks from yt with similar HW(if not 10100f available maybe 9400f comparable) If not mentioned, my gpu runs 85perc load while cpu bored at 25+,but it depends alot on game engine and settings. If you pick some gpu intensive game, wont need 150+fps and wont go ultra low resolution for CSGO like fps result, then I guess anything midrange gpu is yeah for i3. (noticed i want simply rid of low 1perc lows and up details, I dont need more fps, as my gpu bottleneck, thats something 2-3powerfull over my GTX1050 solution). I3 10100 is great, only its weakness loading maps and so, but thats 80usd briliant gem you give your eyes, man. Definitely those 100usd with higher hradě cpu for some funny 4sec for loading maps faster.. That money better spend on what gpu you can get. None would be hurt by that cpu (except rtx 3080 and up for some AAA game and idk what else). What price you get for that 2060?
Bro, this is the most useful benchmark for me, I want to buy i3 10100f and every single video has different results that depends on graphic card and this video helps me a lot.
@@zaxmaxlax most funny thing is that the i3 is not going to bottleneck the 3090 because you are going to use 4k on a 3090 and going to use like 50% only of the gpu
I think something around the 2070S, upcoming 3060Ti is perfect for 6700, 6700k, 7700, 7700k and 1100F for 1440p. Maybe a slight bottleneck, but will only be noticible in some titles. Combine witha g-sync monitor and you will not notice those tiny dips in FPS. I'm not sad at all for the 300$ i gave for my 6700K in like 2015, that over 5 years of service, still works.
i3 10100f is beast for me... and i think this is enough for my daily trading n web browsing.. pairing with gtx 1660 super make me so impresive for this performance on gaming experience, i just need 1080p gaming resolution, i need a low power consumption computer... and i am so satisfied with it
May is there not too much compare about price/performance. The core i3 10100f does the job very well and very well priced too(I have this paired with an RTX 2060). Anyway, any core i5 or i7 from same gen will be a nice upgarde if you're planning update. I really do think you can take a lot advantage from an core i3 10100f to core i7 10700k, as example. As I'd say, not too much to compare about price/performance, core i3 10100f its great but consider i5 and i7. They will make very notiaciable advantage.
There is a new upgraded version for the same MSRP Core-3 10105. It has 100 MHz higher boost clock, it comes with slightly better all black box cooker. Tomorrow I will do a comparison between 10100 and 10105.
I live in the UK and the CPU is in stock for even lower price than 10100 but in US is probably out of stock everywhere. pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/393768-addition-intel-core-i3-1010510105f
More then enoght for gaming! Next upgrade that would be worthwhile is the 10600k... When overclocked it even perform better in gaming then 11600k... Wicked.
I dont even go beyond my Samsung ssd 860evo 256 GB SATA3, untill i need at least double size main storage. I though about nvme 3rd gen samsung980, its 512gb for maybe less than80usd(1700CZK), but no extra space need ATM and that cache speed wont boot my game much faster than sata3(1second stupid upgrade, no fps gain) My tip: Avoid being blinded by gaming close to any pc stuff(alot ofchinese crap has that but also good makers) 1.my "gaming" monitor is office AOC Q32P2, 31,5inch(80cm), 2K,75Hz, with gsync compatibility/adaptive sync, IPS, pivot, USB 3 hub(uselless when monitor goes sleep, lol), and it was 7200czk(i think 280usd). 2.gaming mouse gigabyte lazer 6880mx, simply lazer mouse does great job, no rgb;) 3.keyboard, keeping MS Sidewinder(1000czk/40usd 19yago), but i remember even Chicony 102 key standard with big Enter key was good, mainly big space bar and standard size with keyboard and keypad with space between is ok for me 4.fans are stuff for cooling, desktop lamp for light if needed Last idea: Dont go ultra high settings Anyway it was big challenge make my i3/1050 perform ok after monitor upgrade from 1680x1050 to 2K(roughly 2x more pixels, same computer power) I went both Nvidia display settings(thx Jayz2cents) and ingame to kick ass its automatick preset to high details, I found i can draw all juice from my 1050, but bottleneck there at 100perc utilization, so I made setup to be eye ok and gpu be at 85percent utilization! Miracle but doable. Finally set cpu fan scheme manually, bit customization from default not to go cpu gpu F1 engine sounds. (cpu cooler for i3 i took Arctic Freezer 64Pro, really worthy around 400CZK/below 20usd)
I personally would miss upgrade inside single cpu generation, I mean going from i3 to i5. Only single upgrade with maintaining same MB i did was from singlecore AMD Sempron 2,6GHz to dualcore 64X2 2x2,9. Until you run heavy background tasks or go just for 1perc low boost, I think that typical few-20perc avg fps upgade not worthy touch you settled heart. Its rumored 30perc performance upgrade is niticeable, I do personally upgrade only by 100perc, its usual 3-5y duty cycle for many components. HW Unboxed made nice benchmark for cpu scaling, you find there 10600 not big leap from 10400, bc that is just clocked higher, but test proves l3 cache does biggest boost to gaming performance, so upgrade from i3 to i5 or from i5 to i7 etc makes mostly sense.
Exactly, the real bottleneck is the low resolution... you can play at 1444p with this cpu and an rtx 3070 no problem. Lower resolution needs faster cpu to handle mid/high end GPUs.
yes I think that if you put 3060 ti and play ultra even 3070 at ultra and 1440p would be good, especialy all the new games that will be coming through next few years
the bottleneck in games will depend on how the games are built since some use more gpu than cpu and vice versa. in cpu extensive games the i3-10100 will be choked to death, to reduce cpu bottleneck u gotta pump every graphics to high
Excelente, si a 1080p el cuello de botella que existe es bastante bajo en 1440p debe ser nulo, el i3 10100 es una bestia, voy a tenerlo un poco mas de tiempo y upgradear mi gráfica
Hello! Can I ask u a question? I currently have a i3-10105F processor and I'm trying to combine it with an rtx 3060. Will that be fine or should I upgrade my processor up a bit?
It depends on what you define "fine". For playing single player games at 1080p resolution with high settings and above it won't big a big difference you will always get at least 60fps. For competitive gaming and low settings it would matter and 10105f is not enough for high 240+ FPS.
@@RandomBenchmark if you have a monitor for 1440p, than it is fine 10105F should be fine for ULTRA at 1440p for 3060 and you got to watch about RAMS, cause your CPU has max compatability @ 2666Mhz , you can go higher but you would need more sticks cause dual-channel will not go over you will need to go Triple Channel, or Flex Mode to punch in 3000Mhz or more
Hello, thank you for your dedication in these benchmarks. I'm going to buy a rtx 3060 12 GB to play in full HD(60 hz monitor) at ultra settings on an i3 10105f,there will be bottleneck? (When I get the chance I'll upgrade to Ryzen 5 5600 with 32 GB RAM 3600).
hey if i could get some help here, so the bottleneck calculator says 11% bottleneck on 1080p , but i see everyone with this cpu and gpu has no problems so is it okay if i just get the 2060 super if i have the i3 10100?
I wouldn't be too worried about the bottleneck monster, it's almost impossible to get no "bottleneck", just try to keep things balanced between GPU and CPU and you should have no problems. it's a slippery slope once you start trying to have a perfect combination. try not to focus too much on the numbers but on the game itself.
Bottleneck is more than cpu , gpu compatibiity issue . It can happen because of the game API it self or because the game optimization ...... Ect But in your case it is ok to get 2060 or what ever you want I3 10100 can handle it It is 4 cores 8 threads cpu with 3.6 GHz up to 4.3 or 4.1 ghz It is comparable with i7 7700k So the Answer is YES
The performance will be identical on for example B460 motherboard. 10100 is locked CPU and motherboard will not increase performance, diffrent RAM speed will. Hardware Unboxed did testing with B460 motherboard and even with 10900K and there is no diffrence at stock th-cam.com/video/AAPq9Lthhnc/w-d-xo.html
Ahh sorry, yes you can set whatever timings you want or enable XMP profiles on any Intel 10th gen motherboard only frequency is locked to 2666MHz with i3/i5 CPU`s and 2933MHz with i7/i9
excuse my ignorance but I am not very experienced in this field, and in fact I did not understand much with this video xD, so in a nutshell I could put a 3070 without losing performance or not? if not, what is the card with which I would get the maximum performance? Thanks in advance
In some games you will lose performance if you pair 10100 with 3070 at 1080p, for example in Red Dead Redemption 2, Microsoft Flight Simulator or Watch Dogs Legions GPU utilization is around 70-80% which means there is a CPU bottleneck. At 1440p resolution GPU utilization will be higher and the CPU bottleneck will nearly entirely be eliminated. With RTX 2070 Super the GPU utilization is pretty max out which means that CPU will not bottleneck the GPU and this is the GPU you should use as max for 1080p. You can also wait for RTX 3060/RTX 3060 Ti which should be perfectly fine with 10100.
@@RandomBenchmark this means that your GPu is safe on this CPu coz you cant max out its performance. You'll get better cooling and silicone will not degrade very quickly 😀
It won't bottleneck much, especialy at higher resolutions. Not sure why you'd want to upgrade to a 2060 from a 1660 tho, they're still somewhat similar and the new cards are just around the corner.
if you have the i3 already then you're actually in a really good position rn. the i3 10th gen is a budget cpu so you didnt pay much for it, so in the future if you're looking for an upgrade you can just get the i5 10th gen for probably cheaper price compared to now that is if pc parts prices have gone down at that time but it most probably will.
CPU: Intel 10th Gen Core i3 10100F Processor Mother Board: MSI H510M-A PRO Intel 10th Gen and 11th Gen Mirco-ATX Motherboard RAM: 16 GB which GPU would be best among these four??
Thanks! Integrated GPU will be automatically disabled if you have dedicated GPU plugged in, you don`t have to change anything. You can download GPU-Z to check what GPU you are currently using, to enable or disable iGPU you have to go into BIOS and then search for the settings.
Where you can see 10400 in this video? You should never compare other people's benchmark if they are not using the exactly same testing scenarios and are using the exactly same hardware and drivers. Benchmarks are only an estimation of the performance not indication, you can't cover every possible gameplay scenarios.
@@RandomBenchmark alright, cuz I saw some dude getting like 110 fps only, do you think i5 10400 + rtx 3070 is a good match? Im trynna max out games at 1080p for like 4-5 years
10400 is faster than 10100 and it will only slightly bottleneck 3070. If you want to play with framerate above 200fps then get 10600k instead and overclock it to 5GHz, it will perform nearly exactly the same as 10900k. If you want to play games with ultra settings and lower framerate then 10400 will be perfectly fine.
If 0.1% lows are much lower than 1% lows then you have some kind of stutter issue. 1% and 0.1% should be as close as possible to average for smooth gameplay.
Answer. Yes, it “can” bottleneck. Conclusion. It won’t be a noticeable issue. Chances are with the 3070 you are going to be playing at 2k or 4k anyway. That will push it back to GPU bottleneck.
i mean this cpu is good for those who have a 60hz monitor so nothing higher than 60 fps, and going to put max setting for more gpu power usage and you will be fine. but you will wait for a cpu upgrade if you want use dlss and rtx on the rtx gpu
I've seen people that has a CPU bottleneck complain about their games being a stuttery mess, though it's perfectly fine in this video, care to explain?
@@mr.commonsense6645 depend on the cpu, i have a ryzen 5 5600x with a rtx 3060 and complain about some stutter putting the Ai on beamng drive, this game Is cpu intensive so even if you have a good CPU you Will get some stutter, but i can notice stutter only when there Is the fps counter, without It, Is hard to notice It, and the difference are like microstutter.
@@mr.commonsense6645 i don't even know if its because of the cpu or gpu, but i think if you want a pc that Will last at least 3 years without upgrade, a ryzen 5 5xxx series Is good, or at least pick an i3 13th or 12th. These cpus are good only in intensive single core games, so an 8 core cpu Will give you more stable frame rate, than higher One.
@@a.b.5312 Currently I have I3 gen 10 and planning to get a 6600 but found a 6600xt for $30 cheaper and new, and I don't think I would upgrade the CPU soon, gonna use this rig mainly for gaming, but I've seen a few people complain their i3 10100f rx6600 combo stutter badly on most games, but on the other hand I see benchmarks on this combo and they run flawlessly, what do you think?
Should be able to, depends what GPU you plan on using and the resoluton you're going to play at. If you're going for a £300 or less GPU then it should be fine. The upgradablity won't be bad either if you choose the i3 so i'd say go for it.
if you want it just for gaming a i3 10100(or r3 3300x) with a 2060 is good enough but not for 2 3 years, 1 year is the max limit. my suggestion, go midrange and upgrade cpu and gpu every new gen this way you always in midrange but elso always up to date but if you have the money aim higher, something like r9 5900x or r9 5950x and 3080 or rx6900xt for 2 3 years.
@@RandomBenchmark sorry, I don't want to bother you too much, but can you suggest me a good CPU-GPU combo under 600$... Don't consider the current GPU prices though, consider the normal old ones, I'll be buying the GPU when it's going to be back at normal MSRP
@@ayanchatterjee9601 it will not bottleneck if you cap the frame rate to a decent 60 fps. So you can still have the high setting without a bottelneck, high frash rate monitor will be useless with this cpu.
@@a.b.5312 that is called bottleneck if u cap the frame sure , frame rate will be stable but its bottleneck since cpu is not capable but this is a budget beast
@@ayanchatterjee9601 i mean its not, capping frames don't mean doing bottleneck, you cap the frame because you have screen tearing and others things, because you want stabile fps, its bottleneck when you cap the frame and at the same time the gpu Is working under 90% in heavy games, with fps capped.
Faster RAM and lower RAM latency will decrease the CPU bottleneck and increase the framerate. The other way to reduce the CPU bottleneck is to overclock the CPU. Expect that, there is nothing more you can do, other than getting a faster CPU.
@@RandomBenchmark So I have a I3 10100F paired with a RTX 3060TI. Now this sounds like the recipe for disaster but I assure you not. My PC only seems to bottleneck in call of duty, almost as if there some kind of in-game limit. My CPU NEVER runs more than 25% and my GPU NEVER runs more than 50% in game. But in loading screens and main menu my GPU can run at 80% as well as my CPU at 50%. Other games like Apex legends and Rocket League cruise. I run about 500FPS on Rocket League and cruise on 145FPS on Apex at ULTRA graphics. Apex Legends pushes my GPU to average at around 70-80% forcing more usage therefore increasing my FPS, but my PC almost seems like it doesn't care and wants to only produce 40FPS in Call of duty Modern warfare (Warzone 2). Please assist me of you care.
Then I got no idea why you have very low framerate. I can easily get with 10100 over 100fps in most AAA games and over 60fps in games like cyberpunk 2077. Update the motherboard bios to the newest version and also update the RTX 3060 Ti bios to get resizable BAR. Once you do all this enable Resizable BAR in the motherboard BIOS and it will improve FPS in many CPU limited games. You can also try to enable hardware accelerated GPU scheduling in windows, it can improve FPS slightly in some games.
For 1080p gaming yeah. But this CPU is good choice for 4k 60fps (adaptive sync on) single player games. So it could be paired with something stronger than these GPU you mentioned.
@@DanielOfRussia sure. But in some places this is the cheapest cpu for a new PC builder, in that scenario it's a really good budget for those looking for a great and cheap 4k experience. But of course, if you have a little more room 10400f is a good choice either (at least in Brazil where Intel is usually cheaper than AMD).
This cpu is budget gem. You don't need anything better for gaming.
Technique beats raw power.
@@susmitgupta2932 6C is the sweetspot for overall computing coz its the mid toer and the mid tier pricing is aways the most competitive.
As for gaming, i'd say 4C8T or 6C6T still reigns supreme
brother, im rocking an i3 9100f with a rtx 2060 and 16gb ram and im more than satisfied i run these games at just about the same fps
at 1080 he is enough how about 1440p and 4k ?
@@TheVerinen2 games utilize 4c/8t mostly nowadays, so i would rethink that statement.
The 2070s seems to be the perfect fit for this cpu, i hope that the intel gpus can be also a good fit for the 10100f
I got 10100f 1y ago, its good for my World of warships 2K(75pfs avg at low/med settings, with some drops), gpu i have 1050 2G since 2017, nothing affordable since last year for gpu upgrade. Found 2060S would hit probably 1perc lows with 60pfs, but that pricing now... you know.
Since my cpu/mb/ram upgrade(old was AMD K8-7660 4c/4t 4x3,1GHz, 8GB DDR3/1866, new one already mentioned i3-10100f 4c/8t 4x3,6/4,3, 16GB DD4/2666) i got maybe 10percent higher avg fps, but mainly double 1perc lows, far better experience.
Maybe 10400 would help another 10fps 1perc low more, but i dont think its that upgrade worthy.
MSI afterburner shows 25perc+ cpu utilization, but ingame not over 50, so I guess upto 4xmore powerfull gpu could go in).
That Intel desktop is expected to come in q2 2022, hmm.
Whoever is low budget, dont worry to pick this cpu.
Finally i found this cpu really energy saving, my power draw dropped with upgrade by 20-40W, probably thx to lower utilization.
P. S. My MB is Gigabyte Aorus B460 Pro, but i guess you can pick st even cheaper, I just wanted pick something solid for my build, but that RGB feature is disabled, lol.
@@gstormcz I had i3100 should I buy 2060 I had budget motherboard 16 gb ram
@@zenix0-0 Idk what price for 2060 you get right now. Seems worst time to buy gpu at current pricing. It depends alot on game you prefer and settings, mainly resolution and targeted fps.
I did few things before making this "2060s performance level decision". (note I dont have that rtx, I deny to spend st like 600usd+)
So I set gpu drivers to resolution planned to game in(even my monitor didnt support it, I could create custom resolution over those active monitor detected) So I made in gpu drivers 2560x1440 and set it ingame)
Also checked MSI afterburner gpu and cpu load.
Finally few benchmarks from yt with similar HW(if not 10100f available maybe 9400f comparable)
If not mentioned, my gpu runs 85perc load while cpu bored at 25+,but it depends alot on game engine and settings.
If you pick some gpu intensive game, wont need 150+fps and wont go ultra low resolution for CSGO like fps result, then I guess anything midrange gpu is yeah for i3.
(noticed i want simply rid of low 1perc lows and up details, I dont need more fps, as my gpu bottleneck, thats something 2-3powerfull over my GTX1050 solution).
I3 10100 is great, only its weakness loading maps and so, but thats 80usd briliant gem you give your eyes, man.
Definitely those 100usd with higher hradě cpu for some funny 4sec for loading maps faster.. That money better spend on what gpu you can get. None would be hurt by that cpu (except rtx 3080 and up for some AAA game and idk what else).
What price you get for that 2060?
Bro, this is the most useful benchmark for me, I want to buy i3 10100f and every single video has different results that depends on graphic card and this video helps me a lot.
love your pfp
i3 10100 ??
Surely you mean i7 7700, no?
shhhhh don`t said that at loud, some people will be upset after paying $339 for Core i7 7700 which is now Core i3 costing around $79.00 - $97.00
@@RandomBenchmark wait a minute...
@@RandomBenchmark im Upset, but on my Core 2 Quad PC :'(
as a loyal fan of intel i3 i am glad i wait this long to upgrade my desktop CPU to this beast. bye i3 2130 you will not be missed.
@@handy333 i have an i3 3320 its similiar to the amd a8 5500... but worse lmao
exact system i am researching.. thank you!
You are welcome!
who is buying 11000 cpu for 3070? When 10700k ... is the best value cpu for new gpus.
MakeSh00t I might get a 10100 for a 2070 super. They aren’t bad for the money.
@@bobertjohnson3473 wait for the 3050Ti
OTAGAMER I just picked up a 980 ti hybrid that was too good to pass up. Will upgrade later tho
looks like it can handle the 2060s pretty decently!
Looks like it can handle a 3090 pretty decently.
2060s says 1440p there is no bottleneck because GPU will work start to work harder
how about a i3 2500k 3rd gen 🙄
@@zaxmaxlax most funny thing is that the i3 is not going to bottleneck the 3090 because you are going to use 4k on a 3090 and going to use like 50% only of the gpu
does i3 10100 bottleneck the 2060s on 1080p low/high settings?
I think something around the 2070S, upcoming 3060Ti is perfect for 6700, 6700k, 7700, 7700k and 1100F for 1440p. Maybe a slight bottleneck, but will only be noticible in some titles. Combine witha g-sync monitor and you will not notice those tiny dips in FPS. I'm not sad at all for the 300$ i gave for my 6700K in like 2015, that over 5 years of service, still works.
Sheash man this is a good cpu, 3 years ago this is an i7.
My 10100 beats my 6700k from four years ago.
Thanx. Gives an idea about rtx 3070 handling.. And it's acceptable.
i3 10100f is beast for me... and i think this is enough for my daily trading n web browsing.. pairing with gtx 1660 super make me so impresive for this performance on gaming experience, i just need 1080p gaming resolution, i need a low power consumption computer... and i am so satisfied with it
May is there not too much compare about price/performance. The core i3 10100f does the job very well and very well priced too(I have this paired with an RTX 2060). Anyway, any core i5 or i7 from same gen will be a nice upgarde if you're planning update. I really do think you can take a lot advantage from an core i3 10100f to core i7 10700k, as example. As I'd say, not too much to compare about price/performance, core i3 10100f its great but consider i5 and i7. They will make very notiaciable advantage.
This CPU is a beast!!! considering how much it can handle regarding the price!
There is a new upgraded version for the same MSRP Core-3 10105.
It has 100 MHz higher boost clock, it comes with slightly better all black box cooker.
Tomorrow I will do a comparison between 10100 and 10105.
@@RandomBenchmark can u share the buying link?
I live in the UK and the CPU is in stock for even lower price than 10100 but in US is probably out of stock everywhere.
pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/393768-addition-intel-core-i3-1010510105f
@@RandomBenchmark i have also i3 10105 processor but why my game laging stuck
Gpu gtx 1660 super
8gb ram
More then enoght for gaming! Next upgrade that would be worthwhile is the 10600k... When overclocked it even perform better in gaming then 11600k... Wicked.
I dont even go beyond my Samsung ssd 860evo 256 GB SATA3, untill i need at least double size main storage. I though about nvme 3rd gen samsung980, its 512gb for maybe less than80usd(1700CZK), but no extra space need ATM and that cache speed wont boot my game much faster than sata3(1second stupid upgrade, no fps gain)
My tip:
Avoid being blinded by gaming close to any pc stuff(alot ofchinese crap has that but also good makers)
1.my "gaming" monitor is office AOC Q32P2, 31,5inch(80cm), 2K,75Hz, with gsync compatibility/adaptive sync, IPS, pivot, USB 3 hub(uselless when monitor goes sleep, lol), and it was 7200czk(i think 280usd).
2.gaming mouse gigabyte lazer 6880mx, simply lazer mouse does great job, no rgb;)
3.keyboard, keeping MS Sidewinder(1000czk/40usd 19yago), but i remember even Chicony 102 key standard with big Enter key was good, mainly big space bar and standard size with keyboard and keypad with space between is ok for me
4.fans are stuff for cooling, desktop lamp for light if needed
Last idea:
Dont go ultra high settings
Anyway it was big challenge make my i3/1050 perform ok after monitor upgrade from 1680x1050 to 2K(roughly 2x more pixels, same computer power)
I went both Nvidia display settings(thx Jayz2cents) and ingame to kick ass its automatick preset to high details, I found i can draw all juice from my 1050, but bottleneck there at 100perc utilization, so I made setup to be eye ok and gpu be at 85percent utilization!
Miracle but doable.
Finally set cpu fan scheme manually, bit customization from default not to go cpu gpu F1 engine sounds.
(cpu cooler for i3 i took Arctic Freezer 64Pro, really worthy around 400CZK/below 20usd)
I personally would miss upgrade inside single cpu generation, I mean going from i3 to i5. Only single upgrade with maintaining same MB i did was from singlecore AMD Sempron 2,6GHz to dualcore 64X2 2x2,9. Until you run heavy background tasks or go just for 1perc low boost, I think that typical few-20perc avg fps upgade not worthy touch you settled heart.
Its rumored 30perc performance upgrade is niticeable, I do personally upgrade only by 100perc, its usual 3-5y duty cycle for many components.
HW Unboxed made nice benchmark for cpu scaling, you find there 10600 not big leap from 10400, bc that is just clocked higher, but test proves l3 cache does biggest boost to gaming performance, so upgrade from i3 to i5 or from i5 to i7 etc makes mostly sense.
Higher is res less bottleneck.. for example 10100 with 3080 ll bottleneck 1080p but 4K will not
Exactly, the real bottleneck is the low resolution... you can play at 1444p with this cpu and an rtx 3070 no problem.
Lower resolution needs faster cpu to handle mid/high end GPUs.
yes I think that if you put 3060 ti and play ultra even 3070 at ultra and 1440p would be good, especialy all the new games that will be coming through next few years
The answer is NO. The 10100F is even better value for money with no integrated GPU.
or the i5 10400f thats near the price of i3 10100
@@porassaini2066 not here buddy
@@rickywidayana2592 not here either
iGPU is useful if GPU suddenly die. F n non f series price not differ much anyways.
Got a 370$ i3 10100 build for a friend w no gpu for now, I told him to slap in a 3050 or ti when it comes out, came here just to make sure
Yeah it’ll probably similar to the 2060 super or normal 2060
@@nonexistant2 3060 came out and it similar 2060super so 3050ti i think similar 1660super
I hope these are legit benchmarks gonna buy 2070 s and i3
It's legit bro, this new i3 is as powerful as 7th gen of i7. You also can upgrade to 10400 anytime soon!
@@suguha5908 on same motherboard i can upgrade to 10400f?
@@hh-ggaming4353 yep
HH-G Gaming Which motherboard?
@@diamond-heart21 z490 for i5 10th
i3 10100f with rtx 3060 Ti, is it good setup?
I am curious too
Nn rtx 3060 ti is overkill for i3 10100
I5 10400 f is better with rtx 3060 ti
yes he can do it, but the card will not be used 100%
I think i3 100100f + gtx 1070ti or 2060 =perfect
the bottleneck in games will depend on how the games are built since some use more gpu than cpu and vice versa. in cpu extensive games the i3-10100 will be choked to death, to reduce cpu bottleneck u gotta pump every graphics to high
great video i bought the rtx 3070 for my i7 7700 non k
Excelente, si a 1080p el cuello de botella que existe es bastante bajo en 1440p debe ser nulo, el i3 10100 es una bestia, voy a tenerlo un poco mas de tiempo y upgradear mi gráfica
Comprate el i3 10100f, es mas barato pero no trae video integrado! Si vas a meterle placa de video es un gasto para nada
omg it can even handle rtx
Everything was on ultra
For a cpu bottleneck test you need to use the lowest graphical settings to burn out the cpu
Considering this is only 1080p and at least the 2070 super and higher can do a decent 1440p gaming experience and some games with 4k and dlss
Good video, I dream of an RTX 3070 video card
Hello! Can I ask u a question? I currently have a i3-10105F processor and I'm trying to combine it with an rtx 3060. Will that be fine or should I upgrade my processor up a bit?
It depends on what you define "fine".
For playing single player games at 1080p resolution with high settings and above it won't big a big difference you will always get at least 60fps. For competitive gaming and low settings it would matter and 10105f is not enough for high 240+ FPS.
@@RandomBenchmark ok thanks
@@RandomBenchmark if you have a monitor for 1440p, than it is fine 10105F should be fine for ULTRA at 1440p for 3060 and you got to watch about RAMS, cause your CPU has max compatability @ 2666Mhz , you can go higher but you would need more sticks cause dual-channel will not go over you will need to go Triple Channel, or Flex Mode to punch in 3000Mhz or more
Just get on hand with this cpu. Im pretty impressed
i bought it too but still cant get hands on a gpu( i may be able to get hands on a gtx 1660 or rtx 2060, 3060)
@@amairoshinzou5064 1660 is fine, but try for super, if not it is still fine, it has 6GB of gddr6
Hello, thank you for your dedication in these benchmarks. I'm going to buy a rtx 3060 12 GB to play in full HD(60 hz monitor) at ultra settings on an i3 10105f,there will be bottleneck? (When I get the chance I'll upgrade to Ryzen 5 5600 with 32 GB RAM 3600).
Beautiful scale and 10100F still very impressive.
Damn Dat video good.
hey if i could get some help here, so the bottleneck calculator says 11% bottleneck on 1080p , but i see everyone with this cpu and gpu has no problems so is it okay if i just get the 2060 super if i have the i3 10100?
I wouldn't be too worried about the bottleneck monster, it's almost impossible to get no "bottleneck", just try to keep things balanced between GPU and CPU and you should have no problems. it's a slippery slope once you start trying to have a perfect combination. try not to focus too much on the numbers but on the game itself.
Bottleneck is more than cpu , gpu compatibiity issue . It can happen because of the game API it self or because the game optimization ...... Ect
But in your case it is ok to get 2060 or what ever you want
I3 10100 can handle it
It is 4 cores 8 threads cpu with 3.6 GHz up to 4.3 or 4.1 ghz
It is comparable with i7 7700k
So the Answer is YES
The 10th gen is refresh 103xx would probably be a good buy too for anything upto or equivalent to a 2060super (about a 3060 maybe a 3060ti if lucky)
for 1080p cant find nothing better for the buck , i3-10100f for 89 euros that will only slightly bottleneck a 3070 is a stick up !
yes, sir
This CPU does bottleneck. It did so with Pascal.
thanks for this informative video. I am gathering money to buy a 1660, and your video is good news to me.
true
2666mhz CL12 memory??? Really? How could you get that tight?
Xmp, you cannot pass over 2666mhz, but you can reduce the CL, so it kind of works fine
i have 2x8 2666mhz 16cl on my i3 10100f
Hi i have 500w psu 80 plus,is that enough for i3-10100 + rtx2060 - 16gb ram? And thank you for making this vid!
So what is the best setup...I3 with 2060?
that's nice
i see you lowered DDR4 timing, but can you do that in other motherboard beside Z one?
The performance will be identical on for example B460 motherboard. 10100 is locked CPU and motherboard will not increase performance, diffrent RAM speed will. Hardware Unboxed did testing with B460 motherboard and even with 10900K and there is no diffrence at stock th-cam.com/video/AAPq9Lthhnc/w-d-xo.html
@@RandomBenchmark you dont get it i am talking Memory timing not MHz
Ahh sorry, yes you can set whatever timings you want or enable XMP profiles on any Intel 10th gen motherboard only frequency is locked to 2666MHz with i3/i5 CPU`s and 2933MHz with i7/i9
@@RandomBenchmark thank you, i was searching that, i saw one video guy lowering timing a got almost frequency OC result
@@RandomBenchmark in my asrock b560m pro and 10105f I use ram 3600mhz and it work very well.
excuse my ignorance but I am not very experienced in this field, and in fact I did not understand much with this video xD, so in a nutshell I could put a 3070 without losing performance or not? if not, what is the card with which I would get the maximum performance? Thanks in advance
In some games you will lose performance if you pair 10100 with 3070 at 1080p, for example in Red Dead Redemption 2, Microsoft Flight Simulator or Watch Dogs Legions GPU utilization is around 70-80% which means there is a CPU bottleneck. At 1440p resolution GPU utilization will be higher and the CPU bottleneck will nearly entirely be eliminated.
With RTX 2070 Super the GPU utilization is pretty max out which means that CPU will not bottleneck the GPU and this is the GPU you should use as max for 1080p.
You can also wait for RTX 3060/RTX 3060 Ti which should be perfectly fine with 10100.
@@RandomBenchmark thank you very much and nice video
@@RandomBenchmark this means that your GPu is safe on this CPu coz you cant max out its performance. You'll get better cooling and silicone will not degrade very quickly 😀
Nice video .
Just wanted to ask. Will gtx 1080 bottleneck i3 10100f?
If i upgrade my gtx 1660 to an rtx 2060 with my ryzen 5 1600AF is it good ?
It won't bottleneck much, especialy at higher resolutions. Not sure why you'd want to upgrade to a 2060 from a 1660 tho, they're still somewhat similar and the new cards are just around the corner.
@@livinglifeform7974 because on fivem gta rp i run between 20-50 fps
@@xelob Damm what setttings?
@@livinglifeform7974 sry for responding later but with normal graphics
@@xelob That's unusual to be getting fps like that, I have a worse card (1060) and get better perf than that. It must be another issue.
Can you give me answer? Is it gonna bottleneck if i combine intel core i3 1005g1 with nvidia geforce mx330?
I have i3 10100 and it's good but better buy i5 that will be enough for long time
if you have the i3 already then you're actually in a really good position rn. the i3 10th gen is a budget cpu so you didnt pay much for it, so in the future if you're looking for an upgrade you can just get the i5 10th gen for probably cheaper price compared to now that is if pc parts prices have gone down at that time but it most probably will.
2666MHz CL12 ≒ 3200MHz CL17
CPU: Intel 10th Gen Core i3 10100F Processor
Mother Board: MSI H510M-A PRO Intel 10th Gen and 11th Gen Mirco-ATX Motherboard
RAM: 16 GB
which GPU would be best among these four??
2060s is the sweet spot
He have the same cpu and mobo haha i did go for 1650 ti as my gpu but i will upgrade maybe for 2070 super
do you think it will bottleneck 3060 ti at 1440p?
if your buying a 3060ti just buy a better cpu aswell
Is 2060 super good for that cpu or it will bottleneck ?
can i pair the i3 10100 with a 2060s 1080p high/low settings in esports and triple A games ?
How can i disabel the integrated gpu and make sure im using the actual gpu ?
Great benchmark !
Thanks!
Integrated GPU will be automatically disabled if you have dedicated GPU plugged in, you don`t have to change anything.
You can download GPU-Z to check what GPU you are currently using, to enable or disable iGPU you have to go into BIOS and then search for the settings.
Guy what gpu is best for this cpu now i have gt1030 but i wana update in future maybe next 3 years i guess :,(
i3 10100f + rtx3070
Bottleneck?
is this fake? how it performs better than i5 10400 with 3070
Where you can see 10400 in this video? You should never compare other people's benchmark if they are not using the exactly same testing scenarios and are using the exactly same hardware and drivers. Benchmarks are only an estimation of the performance not indication, you can't cover every possible gameplay scenarios.
@@RandomBenchmark alright, cuz I saw some dude getting like 110 fps only, do you think i5 10400 + rtx 3070 is a good match? Im trynna max out games at 1080p for like 4-5 years
10400 is faster than 10100 and it will only slightly bottleneck 3070. If you want to play with framerate above 200fps then get 10600k instead and overclock it to 5GHz, it will perform nearly exactly the same as 10900k. If you want to play games with ultra settings and lower framerate then 10400 will be perfectly fine.
If 1% and 0.1% are more close each other, it means better? Or that numbers should be more close to the AVG? o.o
If 0.1% lows are much lower than 1% lows then you have some kind of stutter issue.
1% and 0.1% should be as close as possible to average for smooth gameplay.
@@RandomBenchmark thank you :D
Yeah man. Do a bottleneck test @ 1080p Ultra. Very smart
Clearly you got no idea what CPU bottleneck is especially for a bugded CPU paired with several times more expensive GPU
Answer. Yes, it “can” bottleneck. Conclusion. It won’t be a noticeable issue. Chances are with the 3070 you are going to be playing at 2k or 4k anyway. That will push it back to GPU bottleneck.
i mean this cpu is good for those who have a 60hz monitor so nothing higher than 60 fps, and going to put max setting for more gpu power usage and you will be fine.
but you will wait for a cpu upgrade if you want use dlss and rtx on the rtx gpu
I've seen people that has a CPU bottleneck complain about their games being a stuttery mess, though it's perfectly fine in this video, care to explain?
@@mr.commonsense6645 depend on the cpu, i have a ryzen 5 5600x with a rtx 3060 and complain about some stutter putting the Ai on beamng drive, this game Is cpu intensive so even if you have a good CPU you Will get some stutter, but i can notice stutter only when there Is the fps counter, without It, Is hard to notice It, and the difference are like microstutter.
@@mr.commonsense6645 i don't even know if its because of the cpu or gpu, but i think if you want a pc that Will last at least 3 years without upgrade, a ryzen 5 5xxx series Is good, or at least pick an i3 13th or 12th. These cpus are good only in intensive single core games, so an 8 core cpu Will give you more stable frame rate, than higher One.
@@a.b.5312 Currently I have I3 gen 10 and planning to get a 6600 but found a 6600xt for $30 cheaper and new, and I don't think I would upgrade the CPU soon, gonna use this rig mainly for gaming, but I've seen a few people complain their i3 10100f rx6600 combo stutter badly on most games, but on the other hand I see benchmarks on this combo and they run flawlessly, what do you think?
i3 9100f will bootleneck gtx 1660 super?
4133MHz CL17 12％UP
I have the rtx 2060 super but my gpu usage is below 60 percentage and please help me to get 90 percentage usage
good job, same comparission with ryzen 3 3100 oc ?
I knew that someone will ask this question 😅. I will post that video with both stock and OC after benchmarking RX 6800 and rx 6800 XT's.
they are similar should be same
can i use this cpu for next 2 3 years?..planning to upgrade my i7 4770 setup
Should be able to, depends what GPU you plan on using and the resoluton you're going to play at. If you're going for a £300 or less GPU then it should be fine. The upgradablity won't be bad either if you choose the i3 so i'd say go for it.
if you want it just for gaming a i3 10100(or r3 3300x) with a 2060 is good enough but not for 2 3 years, 1 year is the max limit.
my suggestion, go midrange and upgrade cpu and gpu every new gen this way you always in midrange but elso always up to date
but if you have the money aim higher, something like r9 5900x or r9 5950x and 3080 or rx6900xt for 2 3 years.
How much money do you get per month? i3-10100f is only $80...
You could upgrade yearly for i3-11100 in 2021
all the way to i3-12100 in 2022
@@vezeveer just buy a new motherboard every year theory
@@cesar1543 new mobo is the real kicker here, its at least $60
Could get more fps if only you use higher bandwidth memory with that z490 right?
Intel architecture cares surprisingly little about memory speed tho
So, I can go with i3 10100f + gtx 1660?
Yes, but better take 1660 super
Ik this is a bad idea but can you tell me if you know what fps will I be getting with an RTX 2060 super paired with an i3 2100?
@DCG GAMING yeah, I'm thinking of upgrading it to i3 9100f or 10100f
@DCG GAMING anyways thanks :)
9100F is crap, don't waste your money on it. Get 10100F or 10105F, both will delivery far better FPS due to additional 4 threads.
@@RandomBenchmark alright, 10100f confirmed then
@@RandomBenchmark sorry, I don't want to bother you too much, but can you suggest me a good CPU-GPU combo under 600$... Don't consider the current GPU prices though, consider the normal old ones, I'll be buying the GPU when it's going to be back at normal MSRP
what about a i3 10100 with a gtx 1080 bottleneck or not?
GTX 1080 has similar performance to RTX 2060, so no, it will not bottleneck the GPU.
no
My friend says a i3 10100f will bottleneck a 1660 super is he right or nah?
Every single game is showing GTX 1660 Super being utilized at 99% or close which means that there is no bottleneck.
@@RandomBenchmark ty man
Sadly in some areas and after u progress ur game cpu usage increases and it will start to bottleneck rtx 2070 is best u can go
3060?
@@anotherperson7766 will bottleneck 2060super or 2060 is sweet spot but it will run 3060 fine u can go with it
@@ayanchatterjee9601 it will not bottleneck if you cap the frame rate to a decent 60 fps. So you can still have the high setting without a bottelneck, high frash rate monitor will be useless with this cpu.
@@a.b.5312 that is called bottleneck if u cap the frame sure , frame rate will be stable but its bottleneck since cpu is not capable but this is a budget beast
@@ayanchatterjee9601 i mean its not, capping frames don't mean doing bottleneck, you cap the frame because you have screen tearing and others things, because you want stabile fps, its bottleneck when you cap the frame and at the same time the gpu Is working under 90% in heavy games, with fps capped.
It's worth upgrade from i3 10100f to i5 10400f?
if you have a powerful gpu
Rtx 2060super or 3060 max for 10100f,
next yes its better to sell it and buy the I5 10400f
the result seems like pretty good .
Should i pair rtx 2060 with i3 10100f ? give me some suggestion plz
yeah you should. i have the same spec
R3 3100 please
How to know ifs bottleneck average and its bad am sorry newbie here
its ok to build 13-10100f and gtx 1070? no bottleneck ?
You see that it can handle gtx 3070
The answer is yes
puedes usar una rtx 3070, y pocas veces esta con cuello, y ojo a 1080p porque a 1440 no.
Yes baby
please tell me i shudnt buy i5 10400
if i get mobo z490 i can furthermore upgrade to 11th gen?
Yes
How do I get rid of bottleneck and force my cpu and gpu to use more power????
Faster RAM and lower RAM latency will decrease the CPU bottleneck and increase the framerate.
The other way to reduce the CPU bottleneck is to overclock the CPU.
Expect that, there is nothing more you can do, other than getting a faster CPU.
@@RandomBenchmark So I have a I3 10100F paired with a RTX 3060TI. Now this sounds like the recipe for disaster but I assure you not. My PC only seems to bottleneck in call of duty, almost as if there some kind of in-game limit. My CPU NEVER runs more than 25% and my GPU NEVER runs more than 50% in game. But in loading screens and main menu my GPU can run at 80% as well as my CPU at 50%. Other games like Apex legends and Rocket League cruise. I run about 500FPS on Rocket League and cruise on 145FPS on Apex at ULTRA graphics. Apex Legends pushes my GPU to average at around 70-80% forcing more usage therefore increasing my FPS, but my PC almost seems like it doesn't care and wants to only produce 40FPS in Call of duty Modern warfare (Warzone 2). Please assist me of you care.
Anyone can help me please my cpu i3 10105 bottleneck with rx 5600 xt in god of war
so the answer is 2060 super, 3060 isnot guaranteed
Can it handle the GTX1070 8gb?
Easly, 10100 will work perfectly fine with GPU's up to RTX 2070 Super. At 1440p even with GPU like RTX 3070.
i have rtx3060ti with i3 10100f in battleroyal games i get bottelneck
I have 306ti and i3 10100 and my frames are very low do u know why xmp is enabled btw
Do you have 2 RAM sticks in dual channel or just one RAM stick in single channel?
@@RandomBenchmark 4 in dual channel
Then I got no idea why you have very low framerate. I can easily get with 10100 over 100fps in most AAA games and over 60fps in games like cyberpunk 2077.
Update the motherboard bios to the newest version and also update the RTX 3060 Ti bios to get resizable BAR. Once you do all this enable Resizable BAR in the motherboard BIOS and it will improve FPS in many CPU limited games. You can also try to enable hardware accelerated GPU scheduling in windows, it can improve FPS slightly in some games.
@@RandomBenchmark do u use the resizable bar?
I have it always on for most benchmark and I'm using in my main PC. Try it for yourself if it will help with the framerate.
which psu is best for this results..
PSU will not make your PC faster, PSU job is to deliver power not to get more performance for your PC.
can anyone tell me what's the different between 10100 and 10100f?
There is no difference when using discrete GPU is the same CPU.
F at the end means that the CPU is without integrated GPU.
@@RandomBenchmark thank you so much
You welcome
can go rtx 2060s on motherboard msi mag b460m bazooka?
Yes, you can use any modern graphics card and it will work.
can i go my old gpu rx 480 8gb for i3 10100f? for 1080
Sure you can, it will be perfect "pairing" to your RX480.
Is i3 with an rx 6600 good
yes
I have this pc but 1050ti😊😩
Doesn't make much sense to pair with anything higher than 5600XT/2060S.
not true at all, video proves it
also Ray Tracing and DLSS support for rtx cards
@@dertythegrower What have ray tracing and DLSS got to do with what i said?
For 1080p gaming yeah. But this CPU is good choice for 4k 60fps (adaptive sync on) single player games. So it could be paired with something stronger than these GPU you mentioned.
@@Portelasena Well that applies to any other chip not just the 10100. 4K is completely GPU bound
@@DanielOfRussia sure. But in some places this is the cheapest cpu for a new PC builder, in that scenario it's a really good budget for those looking for a great and cheap 4k experience. But of course, if you have a little more room 10400f is a good choice either (at least in Brazil where Intel is usually cheaper than AMD).
Sir please upload new benchmark video of same specs as this one, please
Does the i3 10100f with rtx 2060 have a bottleneck ?
I don't think so❤️
@@amanchadha9814 someone told me that i5 10400f with rtx 2060 will not bottleneck, what do you think about that ?
@@truongvuonghuy6760 yes he's right even i5 10400f can be used with higher graphics card like rtx 2070 without bottleneck
I am curious too
no, it wont. but if u pair it with 3070, it will bottneck ur gpu around 70-80%.
i3 10100f very very very very very very very very budget cpu.
thanks.