The Penuel Show In Conversation with Xoli Madlala, The Miseducation on Menopause

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  • @konvo_za
    @konvo_za  หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    00:00 - INTRO
    01:40 - Difference between practicality & theory
    04:25 - Significance of ‘KaMadlala’
    06:25 - How I was named Xolisile
    10:25 - Uniting with my father’s family
    11:50 - Dealing with fatherlessness & half-siblings
    14:50 - Biography
    20:40 - Why I don’t have children
    22:15 - Conception of The Perimenopausal Globetrotte book
    36:45 - Changing the narrative on menopause
    38:40 - What is menopause & ave. age of menopause
    49:50 - How soon ‘should’ females conceive, optimum age to conceive
    52:40 - The quality of eggs
    54:35 - Option of egg freezing & donation
    58:40 - Optimal ages for fertility
    59:35 - Factors that influence fertility
    1:08:00 - How menopause gets diagnosed
    1:11:45 - The different classifications of menopause
    1:15:10 - What happened with my menopause
    1:19:15 - Different symptoms of menopause
    1:26:00 - Having men in such conversations
    1:37:20 - Impact of menopausal in relationships
    1:48:24 - Importance of Sex-ED
    1:56:45 - Downside of menopause, male equivalent of menopause
    2:14:35 - Closing comments
    2:25:33 - ENDS
    Compiled by Khwezi Ndlovu
    IG: kzndlovu
    Tt: khwezindlovu

  • @godpenuel
    @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Shoutout to all uncles, grandfathers, stepfathers and other men who close the gap that absent fathers leave.
    With that said, mothers need to ensure they are not the barrier between a child and their father, and the father's family.

    • @mikexc.martin7645
      @mikexc.martin7645 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the way you looking her, lol. muhle yena

  • @siphokazintetha1857
    @siphokazintetha1857 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    It’s so good to hear Xoli’s message being broadcasted so widely. These are the non popular conversations we need to brave into.

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much for watching... Indeed, we need to be the generation that normalizes 'unpopular' topics.

  • @laveestaxklusivs3775
    @laveestaxklusivs3775 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As a guy i feel overwhelmed of have learned such information about menopause and the support that is expected from us just to lend a hand to our partners in times of ups and downs and side effects

  • @MizzAP4
    @MizzAP4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    This is an episode we didn't know we needed. Thank you Penuel🙌🏾🙏🏾

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for watching. I am glad that you found value in this conversation.

  • @godpenuel
    @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    This episode was inspired by an episode on Menopause hosted on Diary of a CEO, with Steven Bartlett.

    • @motshidisiradebe9682
      @motshidisiradebe9682 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Fun fact I've watched both 2 episodes. I don't know why am I this invested about menopause while I'm about 22 currently🤦🏾‍♀️but nothing is random I guess I'll get to know

    • @Zy-gote
      @Zy-gote หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@motshidisiradebe9682 A 22 year not watching the Smash and passes content. Impressive 🔥

    • @motshidisiradebe9682
      @motshidisiradebe9682 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Zy-gote I have watched them around age 18-19 and they aren't that interesting for me but nonetheless thanks

    • @Zy-gote
      @Zy-gote หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@motshidisiradebe9682 Keep it up, I'm impressed.

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You did great justice to this conversation. Thank you so much.

  • @khutsoevelynmakhela1996
    @khutsoevelynmakhela1996 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a woman, herbalist who really believes in the magic of plants, i am so pleased to hear this unpopular talk which every woman go through if they happen to live a bit longer from our dear sister through my god Pen. It's high time we talk about these things because they are also contributing to some divorces, resignation from work before time, loss of control in meetings, confusion in taxis or any public transport, misunderstanding in the family unit and i can go on and on. This is one of the deepest taboos. Am glad to be one of those who is cruising in it with very mild symptoms but to be honest, knowledge is power hence freedom. Pen, be blessed and you sissy ❤️

  • @godpenuel
    @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Some Menopause ages to consider:
    35yrs+: High Risk Pregnancy
    35yrs - 45yrs: Peri-Menopause
    40yrs - 44yrs: Early Menopause
    Before 40yrs - Pre-Menopause
    Avg range for Menopause: 45yrs - 55yrs
    Avg age for Menopause: 51yrs or 52yrs

  • @sesisayswithmogau
    @sesisayswithmogau หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Informed=empowered🙌🏿 thank you so much for this episode 🙏🏿🙌🏿

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Informed = Empowered 🎉🎉🎉
      Thank you so much for watching this conversation...

  • @samukelisiwekhumalo278
    @samukelisiwekhumalo278 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Pen, hat off to you, you handled this interview with the sensitivity and respect it deserves, if not more. It was fun and very informative to watch...
    Had so many "that's me" moments, especially the symptoms...I am going through peri menopause, turning 40 in October. I was talking to a former colleague about this just yesterday that I don't know what is but I am going through something and then this video pops up.
    Thank you, thank you!!
    Sis Xoli you are a Gem, Mkhaya you making us proud. Ngingowase Dambuza mina. Definitely getting the book, definitely sharing this with all the women I know, definitely following sis Xoli.
    Pen kwande Bhuti wami

    • @godpenuel
      @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน

      @samukelisiwekhumalo278 what a heartwarming comment. Siyabonga kakhulu, Mntungwa... goodluck on your journey 🙏🏽❤️

  • @nthabisengfaneke8453
    @nthabisengfaneke8453 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Penuel for hosting Sis Xoli Madlala . Having to deal with menopause is not easy mentally so, relationship, family, friends. last year I was diagnosed with ovary cancer I was 34 by that time. Before operation I had someone, I had to leave that relationship because it was not easy for me to tell my partner. at work is hell I brough a fan because hot flush is not easy. mentally so I get frustrated. Just to cut the story short whatever sis Xoli said is so true is not easy. I'm not even ready to tell the whole family, let alone to date is a lot. I'm still in a process to rebuild myself. Big up Penuel

    • @godpenuel
      @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nthabisengfaneke8453 Thank you for sharing your story. I'm really sorry about all you've been through and hope you'll heal. Stay strong.

  • @godpenuel
    @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    If we do not want to talk about sex, biology and the body with children, especially girls... then we similarly shouldn't get angry with teen pregnancies.
    We can't have it both ways. You either teach children about these things, honestly... or continue being fake-outraged about why kids are having sex or falling pregnant.

    • @liyemadosini6500
      @liyemadosini6500 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is one of the many conversations we don't want to have as a country. It's really frustrating that we blame girls but we're not trying to solve the issue at the root.

    • @nyashamahleko7007
      @nyashamahleko7007 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@liyemadosini6500 Blaming Girls and Woman expecially dark skinned Woman and girls is easyer than dealing with men and boys.Most of us know were problem is.That why i support Abortion.And why expecially girls.What about Boys.I absoluly believe in Boys virginity testing.There are Tribes who sexually controll there Boys and grown man.

    • @umphakatsipeaceecovillage9509
      @umphakatsipeaceecovillage9509 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TRUE

  • @gugulethumabena9764
    @gugulethumabena9764 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    An absolutely wonderful and relevant conversation 🎉

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know, I appreciate you, wonderful Queen... Here's to changing the menopause narrative.

  • @khutso_mbokane
    @khutso_mbokane หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love what she's wearing....still gonna watch

  • @acceptinglife6491
    @acceptinglife6491 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Because of Xolisile KaMadlala's story,.I can't wait to talk about the IEC's working conditions.... Which are ABSURD 😮😮😮😮... Especially for people like women, who have naturally occurring conditions like menopause (which she spoke about) and menstruation, the IEC demonstrated that they don't care about!!!! I was a staff member during the IEC 2024 Nation elections, I was on my menstrual period during that time. I unfortunately and un-planned bled through my freaking pants that day and by the 24th hour of me being at the voting station my pants had blood on them, I didn't know I would be on my period that day but I prepared for it just in case .. I unfortunately had no idea how heavy and painful it would be!!! The Presiding Office (an oke) rediculed me about it..The Party Agent had the final decision on whether or not as a person heavily bleeding could go home or not (the Presiding Officer gave a party Agent a final decision of what would be done with me... AND she ridiculed me infront of everyone (the entire IEC staff elected that day) before she said ....nothing (she literally starred at me in silence 😐,,,,.and I made the decision,.with my bloody coochie and jeans and seats to go home😂.IEC???? Absolutely incompetent to make that decision 😂... how disgusting

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What an unnecessary ordeal!!! You were violated on so many levels. I am shocked speechless and sorry that you had to go through such.. Did you manage to report this?

    • @acceptinglife6491
      @acceptinglife6491 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maskoffwithxoli6754I was only able to feel empowered to report it because I knew someone who'd worked for the IEC at a higher position and asked this lady to report this on my behalf...as far as I know, nothing was done about it. Very humiliating experience, I'd never dream of working for the IEC ever again!

    • @acceptinglife6491
      @acceptinglife6491 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maskoffwithxoli6754 I replied, think TH-cam deleted it

  • @user-cq7ih1js4f
    @user-cq7ih1js4f หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Penualism ❤ always optimistic, siyabonga for information educational 🙏🏾

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for watching this conversation...

  • @_T.M.S_
    @_T.M.S_ หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yes boy. You smashed it. our very own Steven Bartlet.
    As you can see in the comment section, many of the females can relate and as you mentioned that you saw an episode on menopause from DOAC, saw one and I was here to add on the info I accumulated.
    please have more guest who talks about the science that has been researched on a human body. people relate and are looking for one.
    bless bro.

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This comment 🎉🎉🎉!!!

    • @_T.M.S_
      @_T.M.S_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maskoffwithxoli6754 thank you for you work.
      the thumbnail attracted me to come view the podcast and the conversation lead me to go find the book.
      without explicitly telling my age, I'm on my mid 20's and I think I'm gonna try as much as I can to be an understanding partner to who ever is out there because of your work and others that add value to me on understanding a human being.
      if you have some chance to other platforms, please explain the issue of utilizing hormonal contraceptives and their sight effect altogether with what happens to the blood that was meant to troph the embryo during gestation period if fertilization doesn't take place and a female with a very good menstruation cycle doesn't menstruate for about 6 months because of this hormone based contraceptives.
      people disclaimer!!! Science can be proven wrong tomorrow by another researcher.
      lastly, thank you KaMAdlala

  • @ThembiNator5
    @ThembiNator5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love this. Thank Pen and Xoli.... these are conversations worth having. Looking forward to reading the book❤

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for watching and finding value... I will be on the lookout for your book order.

  • @thikolelwirinahramulifho5691
    @thikolelwirinahramulifho5691 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for this conversation. We need more of this educational conversation.

  • @nokuthulamtsweni2902
    @nokuthulamtsweni2902 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Such An important, educational Topic ❤️✨. She's so articulate, I enjoyed this Episode. I should have her book. Thank You Penuel and Your Team 📍🙌🏾

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I swear time went by so fast even during the recording 😂😂😂... The truth of the nature is, menopause is such a broad subject, hence I thought writing the book would do it justice but guess what? I had to stop myself from writing also and publish it at over 400pages. Book 2 is loading at the right time.

  • @gcinamthembu1786
    @gcinamthembu1786 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bafo, Bafo, Bafo
    The level of Education you give us, I can thank you enough. 🙏🏾
    Keep up the great work. 🙏🏾

  • @pulanetsotetsi3542
    @pulanetsotetsi3542 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank goodness for this cause wow... menopause together with nutrition medical practitioners are not well trained on this topic,they have nothing to offer hence I do my research and well-done to sisters

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please watch this conversation with my friend who is a nutritionist and ethnomedicine practitioner... You have nailed it, I nodded at every word of your comment.

    • @khutsoevelynmakhela1996
      @khutsoevelynmakhela1996 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very true, just to comment on what you are saying, if I was not knowledgeable, I don't know where I would be and thanks that at 55, I am still feeling like a 25 yr old. Knowledge is power.

  • @godpenuel
    @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Two of my babymamas have been highly offended by my saying that girls can comfortably fall pregnant from age 16 (biologically). They believe that conversation is inappropriate with kids.

    • @katlegomohajane1588
      @katlegomohajane1588 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      This is one of the reasons why all of us (men and women) had to through different initiation stages until adulthood in the olden days for us to be able to be ready for reproduction and all that comes with it. Those kind of initiations would make conversations like that normal and acceptable.

    • @godpenuel
      @godpenuel หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@katlegomohajane1588 kunjalo 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @nyashamahleko7007
      @nyashamahleko7007 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@katlegomohajane1588 I do not believe those iniatian stages were actually god.I think our Ancestor made some mistake and i think we have to acknowled that.We have to stop glorification everything our Ancestor did.

    • @katlegomohajane1588
      @katlegomohajane1588 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nyashamahleko7007 How were they not good?

    • @nonzuzojantjies9101
      @nonzuzojantjies9101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      perpetuates RAPE

  • @tammytopia
    @tammytopia หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such an important topic. Woman must not hide it, be embarrassed or suffer in silence. We need to help and be there for each other. Thank you for this.

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well-said!!! There is no need to be ashamed nor embarrassed...

  • @walikozagwa2491
    @walikozagwa2491 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great conversation ❤. We need a male version of Xoli.
    Thank you God Pen!

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We sure need to rise up and engage in all of these 'topics' that affect us, without shame nor embarrassment. We need to be informed. We need real faces and voices.

  • @mandlagumede4947
    @mandlagumede4947 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really informative episode. Thanks to everyone involved in making this broadcast possible.

  • @CAROS_FITNESS
    @CAROS_FITNESS หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This a very important concept xolie, firstly, thank you for taking up this topic to another level more specially for woman of the soil.
    However this premonopose cost me big time.

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here's to changing the menopause narrative for the women of the soil... Here's to being intentional about talking about important topics.
      As for your journey, ya neh!!! Hopefully you will share one day.

  • @SheIsAmile
    @SheIsAmile หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting conversation and definitely needs more research and discussions. Funny enough, in my experience it has been male managers who have showed way more compassion towards female issues ( eg menstrual cramps, pregnancy) than female management. A female manager immediately assumes you’re being dramatic especially if they don’t have that experience.

  • @michellerisimati
    @michellerisimati หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this 🙏🏽

  • @acceptinglife6491
    @acceptinglife6491 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My kinda guest ❤

  • @NombuyiseloTshandu
    @NombuyiseloTshandu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you. I just felt seen and heard.

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Relatability is important ❤❤❤...

  • @SandileShange-nc8zc
    @SandileShange-nc8zc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative,well done Xoli

  • @mahlohonololebuso741
    @mahlohonololebuso741 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Penuel said "ugh I lost that question, brain fog. Must be that meno"....I hollered😂😂😂😂 Penuel has jokes

  • @bongampanza3402
    @bongampanza3402 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative, thank you so much

  • @nhlakaniphotshabalala1012
    @nhlakaniphotshabalala1012 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Power conversation 👌✊
    Very informative 💯

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to hear that we achieved our mission. Thank you so much for your insights.

  • @siphokazimbiyoza213
    @siphokazimbiyoza213 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Deep informative interview

  • @AllenSello
    @AllenSello หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Where can I get that book 🤯😊

  • @sihle6218
    @sihle6218 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    it’s KaMadlala because her surname starts with Ma that’s why enoKa like my sister would be MaDladla where as she KaMadlala instead of the Redundancy of MaMadlala….

  • @mandlagumede4947
    @mandlagumede4947 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi again Pen and sis Xoli. It's me again thanks again for the great topic, quick one I remember sis Xoli mentioning that these topics are being had in vernac. If yes please share more info on where we can access this info

  • @S.P.H.E
    @S.P.H.E หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sbonge 🙌🏾

  • @bubuilioness6003
    @bubuilioness6003 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Polygamy and other relationships question:
    Unfortunately for some men, marriage and relationship with women is not all about s3x, it's a small part of it.
    We're such a s3xualised society that doesn't even own Land as yet.

  • @petergarrett4385
    @petergarrett4385 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Pen you said we were in our Granny womb with our Mom, are we an agg or a sperm, just curious 😊

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are an egg. We all start as eggs...
      'What gender do babies start off as?
      Female
      During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated; that is, all fetal genitalia are the same and are phenotypically female. After approximately 6 to 7 weeks of gestation, however, the expression of a gene on the Y chromosome induces changes that result in the development of the testes.'
      When males are born, all the parts of the reproductive system are in place. But reproduction isn't possible until sexual maturity, which happens during puberty. Puberty tends to start when boys are between 9 and 15 years old.'
      I hope this clarifies things...

  • @Twinkle_Lethula
    @Twinkle_Lethula หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Menopause in Sepedi is Boopa coming from "Moopa" which is a woman who can not give birth

    • @maskoffwithxoli6754
      @maskoffwithxoli6754 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much for this...
      So it is almost similar as ubufazi and sisadi which is borrowed from womanhood, in the sense that, it is borrowed from 'infertility'.

    • @Twinkle_Lethula
      @Twinkle_Lethula หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@maskoffwithxoli6754 exactly

  • @pulanetsotetsi3542
    @pulanetsotetsi3542 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imbokodo is not a good word to describe any woman cause is an ugly big rock that no one wants in their yards,that has no purpose whatsoever...we are flowers 🌺 I refuse to be a rock

  • @SihleXolo
    @SihleXolo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You call people ignorant then you go and say MaMadlala 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Uayandaaa
      @Uayandaaa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      batongg wena

    • @Mank_Mindset
      @Mank_Mindset หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Uayandaaa he just embarrassed himself. Yeses! I cannot even believe it. He's proving the point Azama ukuligxeka.

    • @valentinendlovana9537
      @valentinendlovana9537 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t like how critical he is of people as if people are supposed to be ‘all knowing’ it’s not possible. That is the reason why we learn everyday. The names he called out never said they were the ambassadors of history or culture. He is the one putting that pressure on them. It’s so belittling man. It’s not nice.

    • @SihleXolo
      @SihleXolo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mank_Mindset exactly

    • @SihleXolo
      @SihleXolo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Uayandaaa seriously

  • @matstof
    @matstof หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Penuel on people being ignorant in the intro... Calm down there, sir. You overestimate yourself wena kuqala. We all know different things. Doesn't always make you smarter than the next person. Talk less, listen more.

    • @diddy3122
      @diddy3122 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A cringe worthy intro indeed..! 😢