The 3 Triad TRICK That Will CHANGE Your Playing
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Is tim the best? Tone, chops, attitude, gear, production and that refined taste like the hills of Tuscany . Thank the gods for this man
The Rock man was cool. And yeah, the whole Hysteria album was done exclusively through one.
I playing about 35 years ago (though I people only played maybe twenty of them). I started with the Mel Bay books, wildly inaccurate tabs, VHS recorded music videos and poorly worded magazine lessons. To this day I have a friend who plays with the most bizarre and counterproductive picking style, the casualty of an ambiguously worded Eric Johnson hybrid picking article in the early 00's. I don't watch the channel religiously, but every time I do I'm always struck by how good you are at this. I struggle to think of anyone that I've come across that puts everything in such a clear and concise manner. More than once have I found myself realizing just how convoluted my understanding of various things had been, hanging overcomplicated relatively simple concepts. It's a gift.
And you always look like you're exactly where you want to be. 👍
Hello from AZ Tim! This explanation of the caged system demonstrates it with the most clarity that I've ever seen, thanks!
Yes! A-G and C-D
This guy was built for this. Never heard it described as clearly. You rule!
AWESOME!!! Glad I made it...Tim you ROCK!!!
You're playing is just so fluid and sweet in its composition, it is no wonder you are so revered, and believe me you have no reason to be humbled by anyone who truly admires your talents.
So happy I found your site. I taught beginners and some intermediate guitars from 1971 to about 10 years ago. Now that I am 70, Arthritis has come for a visit and slowing me down. This is the most insightful lesson I have ever witnessed and will be signing up for the master class shortly.
I wish it could have waited until my 70s to visit me. I was convinced my 3 + decade long relationship with the guitar was over when arthritis decided to enter my life in my mid 40s, and perhaps it will end eventually, but ironically for now I've became a much better player. Because I need these super hours long warms-up before I feel like I can play my best stuff, so I end up practicing a lot more. I sure didn't see that coming! But I find NOT playing is what does me in. For now, I can still play Yngwie licks, but my knuckles sure aren't a pretty site. I suspect I will eventually morph into doing more slide stuff. My dad was a consummate pedal steel guitarists and I grew up knowing a lot about it and always thought I would pick it up one day. Perhaps I will finally.
I AM FREAKING GLAD SOME ONE SAID IT!!! There are ONLY 3 in C.A.G.E.D system. Funny how long it took. Tim is the only one I have ever seen say this. I knew, but no one ever says it on YT. When I figured it out I began to FLY up and down the fret board
Why didn’t you let the cat out of the bag on TH-cam when you first discovered it?
People need to stop hoarding all the great information
What do you mean? I know scales well and have been playing for a long time but struggle learning arpeggios at this point
Tom Bukovac said the same, at least a few years ago.
Even though I went to Berklee I have been teaching this exact thing for 20 years.I teach CAGED OS with stands for octave shape.Tim is an absolutely teacher and player.
Um, Tomo....
If you'd look at CAGED when starting from the D chord, it becomes obvious how all the 'vanilla' chords will melt from one shape into another. The last fretted note (when playing a 'D shape' it will be your ring finger) will be the first note to fret on the next version of that chord (the C shape). This will always be a thing and it will even include the 'E shape" of the chords.
In a resent interview, Vince Gill repeated several times throughout the video that, it's always about serving the song, and everything you'd ever really need to do so, was shared in this lesson. I will be chewing on this lesson for along while. Thank you brother.
Finally somebody talks about this, it is 20 years I am listening people talking about CAGED system and it always makes me smile.If you are thinking CAGED it means you did not get it yet.
This is absolutely fabulous, Tim. Love the horizontal playing - love it all, really. Many thanks.
"Finger tucker!" That's hilarious. I'm trying to stop using my little finger due to arthritis in the first joint. It's difficult not to use it but you make it look so easy. Gives me hope!
One thing you and uncle Larry have in common is, you both have fun when you’re playing. That’s what we’re all aiming for. Thanks Tim.
I learned Triads and inversions long before I heard of CAGED. I learned to sight read traditional and tabs. Then, "this is A", this is the 7th, 9th, 11th. Then flat 5ths or 9ths etc and augmented and diminished half or whole. Then the modes and tons of classical guitar and blues. Then I drank a bottle of whiskey in my basement and listed to Michael Brecker 😆. That led to more drinking. 😢
Edited to say Tim's a great guitarist and teacher, I watch a lot of his videos. Im not mocking it's just some humor
Love this lesson Tim! Hope we get to play again soon. It's been ten years. That's long enough,
oh my gosh, so great to hear from you. Hope you are well.
Yes, it's been too long ...
When I first heard Bon Jovi's runaway as a young dude I could never have imagined hearing and seeing Tim from the all star review play and chat on a phone. Love your playing Tim! Tech rules!
I love this... I have been saying this to my students for years... I love that you have just legitimized it for me.
Your tone is incredible, both driven and transparent
Additionally, the E shape corresponds to the F shape. Thanks Tim for your amazing content!
I started thinking of CAGED as ACE.
that's very cool. What a great idea.
Omg this is brilliantly explained! Very helpful- thanks Tim! I am trying to get to the heart of CAGED, and this revelation makes a ton of sense where I was like huh?!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Tim! I’ve been trying to get more melodic with my solos, now I have another tool to use with this lesson!
Great Tim , I like the way you talk explain and show simple but best unlike others with a lot of words.
I love watching others use these complicated methods so beautifully.
I just play music in a highly simplistic way using my trusty pentatonic scales and standard open chords. 😊
Tim Pierce, I am NUTS! I was a drummer through 1984, switching to guitar in late high school. Being left handed, I picked up right hand guitars and flipped them over, and I still do (acoustics), while my electrics are left handed but strung reverse, and a few right hand double cutaway. Can you believe I survived playing that way all these years? Haha, me and Doyle Bramhall II, Dick Dale (RIP) and a handful of others. Thanks for all you do for us, Tim! Much Love and Respect - Edgar Bowlin
You are always humble, Tim. It blows me away every time. You're amazing, and a great human being.
Hie Tim, I don´t know if somebody has already mentioned before - the "Tab" shown at 2:51 is: 1 - 2 - 3 - b5 - #5 - I think. But your 3 Triad Trick opens another door - thanks for sharing. I love to check your videos, so much to improve my playing. It is unique how you let a few simple notes sing and fly...
With best wishes.
What a lovely video. You are so open and honest and I'd say humble. The licks are *SO TASTY* and the guitar is beautifully in tune as you go up the neck. Many thanks.
Another great exposition of the simple complexity of guitar theory!
Thanks Tim- always enjoy hearing you play and the joy you always bring to that playing!
Tim, you’re so deserving of the kind of praise given by Bukovac! Your work on this channel and your career is a national treasure!
Tim, “Change” is only one of so many songs you have made that has defined a generation. I graduated high school in 83 you wrote the sound track to my life! Yes the lead to “Change” is great but you have so many more! Thank you for sharing your talent!
Why does Tim always sound so fresh and masterful in his execution? Because he is a master of simplicity. He's the master of distilling music. He reminds me of Paul McCartney. He knows what counts and what doesn't. The Beatles didn't make their music based on over-complicated ideas, but on what is absolutely necessary for a great song, from A to Z they wrote music with no extraneous stuff and that is what Tim does, he makes solos that are timeless and real like George did. I was listening to a Tim Pierce piece in the grocery store (imagine the US population hearing your music every time they picked up a tenderloin) the other day and was floored by the mastery. Tim is Tarrega in the modern era. And I don't say that about many of these fools out here. Check out Beato's Warren Haynes interview, top quality!!! I've said it more than once Tim is The Class Act in this game and I adore his lessons. From Hendrix to Mayfield to Page to on and on the list goes. Sign up for the Masterclass, you won't be disappointed.
I had this very argument with a guitar tutor. After years of being "self taught" I paid for a lesson to try and improve my ability and music theory. When he explained the CAGED system I openly observed that D was just C moved up a tone. Also, the E shape moved up becomes F, then F# and then G. He told me I was not a guitarist and all but threw me out (after paying him). There is the open G that we all begin with of course...
Fantastic. The thing you do so well is that you always show how it’s used to make music. Whether it’s a concept or scale or chord shape, etc. you show how to make it sing.
thank you so much for the comment. I appreciate it.
TIM! Your work on Bat Out of Hell II (BACK INTO HELL) Is some of my favorite guitar work I've ever heard. I wanna say thanks for sharing your knowledge with everyone. This is a great video.
I am blown away every time I watch. It is all over my head but ,I just love watching and listening. Particularly love your "mellow" ones. I discovered that write it down thing at University to remember stuff. Not guitar, languages. Thank you Mr Pierce.
I’m loving these changes. Great caged points but I’m a bit distracted waiting for a killer vocal to drop in and compliment this track. Well done Tim!
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What is this guy? Some kind of "Genius" with uncommon "Common Sense"?! Yes, I do believe he is, Sir Timothy Pierce, a Nobleman and scholar of such a fine instrument indeed.
Thank you. I’ve been saying this for decades. There are only two places on the neck where the E-shape is an E-shape. Move it up a fret; it’s an F-shape. The worst thing guitar teachers do is teach “folk-style.” I grab my E-chord as if a bar chord (which it is) with my index over the nut as the bar. Same with the C. If you play the D-chord in the 2nd inversion (2d fret), then slide down two frets, you have a C-chord. Very simple, Very easy
Exactly how I learned years b4 the internet existed. Told them the nut is like your index finger on a bar chord. Basic Patterns just shift up the neck…Just three simple triad patterns repeat and interlock….Tried to show this to others and was met with blank stares and ‘that’s not what my teacher says’…..oh well….and they still can’t play past the fifth fret 45 years later….😮
You're always amazing Tim, grazie. Listening to you play and the advice you give, is one of the best things on the whole web. You make me want to play.
Wow, thank you!
I've been telling students the five shapes can be really seen as 3 for years (which also makes it easier to do the minors!). Thanks for the small vindication 😅 and all the great things you share!
Great stuff Tim! Cheers from sunny Sydney Australia 🇦🇺👋🎸
You may dare, you are Tim Pierce😊
The reason I look at the five shapes instead of three is for remembering the perfect notes (Cmaj scale) in each shape and the connecting octaves up and down the neck.
Like E shape scale is
xx-x
-x-x
x-xx
x-xx
xx-x
xx-x
D shape scale
x-xx
x-xx
xx-x
xx-x
-x-x
x-xx
I learned extended maj and minor pentatonic and extended blues scales as well.
I really need to work on putting it all together more confidently. I am 2.75 years currently into learning guitar.
Apologies for any gibberish. Im self-taught.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
In conjunction with just having your instrument in your hands and watching someone as talented as yourself you will eventually see these things on the guitar neck just like you're explaining I've been doing it for years and I get better every day
The demonstration at 2:14 on how musical it can be is just like Mike Campbell’s lick during the chorus of Mary Jane’s Last Dance. Lovely!
Thanks, this is a good way to learn. You can check the 6 chords that match best from the Circle of Fifths and then follow the melody by playing notes of your chords just one string at a time first.
A clever observation. In my studies, I was never introduced to CAGED. I learned by using shell chords. I do see your observation is a much more powerful way of using CAGED system.
Loved the lesson and can fully grasp the triad theory - where I get lost is when you start playing licks and lead between the triads - I never know where to go
YES I *do* see the Piercius Major fretboard constellation! 🤣 This one really hits me where I live right now, trying to visualize the chords & chord tones while improvising leads. Been playing for decades but only ventured into lead guitar in the past ~ 3 years, during which I have not-so-coincidentally acquired a few guitars . . . 😘🎸 Thanks, Tim!
Yes, there are only three ways you can combine three notes. You could say things expand as you allow for octaves, which is where those basic CAGED shapes come from. By the way, you can also simplify extended chords in this way using shell chords.
Your comment about the string tension on reverse headstock interests me. I have several guitars but the one I love the most is the headless Hohner GT3 ( cricket bat ). It has double ball end strings and a zero fret. You can bend the hell out of it and it stays in perfect tune. Shame they stopped making them.
Hello from New Zealand Mr P!!!! Great explanation and lesson.. exactly what Ive been looking for!!!!! Thank you so much!!! Bless bless bless 😎✨🙏🕊️👼
I agree with the 3 shape concept. That's how I always looked at it. It just made more sense to me.
Thanks for your lessons and advice
Thank you brother! 🙏 this overview really helps me to use the fretboard in a more musically comprehensive way. Much, much gratitude 🙏
I am not sure who you are yet. But that was some tasty guitar soloing, that was full of heartbreaking melody and the technique of dynamics. I'm sincerely jealous of your gift. Thanks for sharing your time and advice. (Punctuate when you play). Very well said, and also unforgettable.
Best evening program there is so far after a day at the boech. Thanks Tim. You again inspired me to pick my axe.
hey, thank you so much for the nice comment. Glad it helps.
Thank you Tim! This has been a really educational episode!
Hello Tim your an inspiration. When I use the entire neck the music magic flows lol. I like simple but dynamic.
hi From Sweden! i do love youre playing, and i try to keep up and learn so mutch as i can, and this is soo super melodic.
Favorite guitar solo. Souls from the Rick Springfield Living in Oz album.
Thanks for mapping this out. It was there the whole time but difficult to see. This really helps.
I agree with you about dynamics, which you described at the end. Too many guitarists use too much compression (like Cory Wong) that throw all the dynamics out the window.
SRV said that he’s fighting compression and trying to get as much dynamics in his playing as possible.
TIM, YOU ARE THE MAN! The most awesome explanation of this over exposed theme.
Great lesson ! Makes more sense with three shapes .
It seems before I was letting the caged shapes compete with the scale patterns .
Breakthrough for me today . Awesome.
I’ve been meaning to ask Tim, how many amps does that studio of yours draw😳. Always enjoy your cheery delivery.
Hi Tim. Great comment regarding Modelers. I view my modeler as a completely different tone colour. I can create some really great tones with it and more importantly, they cannot be created with conventional amps. If you view your Modeler as its own identity, much the same as you would view the differences between all the different makes of amps, distortion, chorus, Reverb etc, then they are great, and can be better than the amp. As we know, a lot of amps only really sound great at jet engine levels. How many of us can use them at that level. My advice to everyone, is to stop trying to compare it to an amp of any type. I have never found any amp of any make to sound exactly the same as another amp of the same make, so why should a modeler. The way the modeler interacts is the same thing. I never worry about weather it reacts exactly the same as an amp. It does not limit me. I just build a patch with the perfect tone I want and press the button. no messing with volume pots, treble bleeds and all the other paraphernalia to get your amp and guitar to do what you want. Just for info. I only use NUX MG300. I don't care les if it isn't a Fractal, Pod or its price or anything else. All it has to do is produce a tone that inspires me.
This is probably the best guitar lesson on TH-cam 🎶🌟
I like to find these triads on every string set.good practice
This is cool Tim. I discovered this a long time ago, and when soloing, find I can evolve solos and melodies to create tension or resolution in interesting ways. Love your work man. If you come to Australia we got to jam.
Thanks for putting these pieces together for me. Brilliant lesson!
Awesome info. I'm currently looking at buying a heritage. I love the way yours breaks up on double stops etc. You might of just nailed the coffin shut for me. 🤙
Great lesson! The concepts you presented are the ones that really allowed me to get around on the fretboard. Thanks.
Awsome lesson! Btw: my favorite solo of all time is the Solo of Bon Jovi's "Runaway" ❤
Great master class on triads. Thank you Tim.
How does Tim Pierce not have 2 million subs, I don't understand. Best on the web.
I think that you ACE'd this one, Tim!
So good to listen to you play Tim, sweet melodic!!
Tim is a gem. Thanks Tim.
I’m gonna have to watch this a few times. Thank you for putting this together and sharing, very valuable information.
Great lessons Tim. I feel half of it went over my head because I need to dip myself more in the CAGED system.
Hi Tim from Columbus, Ohio a city that no one would suspect as being a large city full of EXCELLENT guitar players...
Yes. Simplify!
I just heard Turn Up the Radio unplugged. Wow. Plunkett is a childhood friend...
Hello Tim from Bethlehem GA ne of Atlanta thanks for all your videos truly I have learned so much, I been playing for over 40 yrs and CAGED opened up my world. Thank you for your smile too...
Greetings from South Africa! This is great, thank you.
You can play, sometimes depending on what the topic is I sit back and just listen!
Thanks for the free lessons Tim, From one Pierce to another.
Thanks so Tim! W. TN enjoying all your content. Always with a smile 😃 nothing more welcoming.
I’m really loving my ToneX one. Great video, Tim! I love seeing how other guitarists visualize and utilize the fretboard
What a great video
Thank you Tim 💓
🎶🎸 wow i could feel your humility and gratitude when you gave a shout out to uncle larry for his favorite solo😊so fricken cool
I watched the Beato interview also with buk and gt. Man it was absolutely fabulous. ❤
that was awsome, never seen it like this.. another TP breakthrough moment, seriously thanks for sharing..🙏🏻
Such a master at flavor on the instrument.
Totally agree with the reverse headstock theory. But right handed necks are so much easier and cheaper to get. Plus right handed guitars suck to play upside down. Point being, better to get a left handed guitar and put a right handed neck on it. Just need to use the nut from the lefty. great video.
Tim, thanks for putting this out, great info. Suggestion: remind us what guitar, effects, amp and speaker you're using for the video.
That song is beautiful! Such a master guitar player.
You learn that it is only 3 when you learn the 1966 "I fought the Law" solo which I went after hard when I was about 18. I thought I was dumb because I wasn't going after 9s and 13s. But I finally realized. Triads are where you access all of that. So simple. :)
Very interesting. In my early teens I figured out what you call "the cage". I don't play piano, but watching some basic piano tution videos here on YT, the piano seems much more intuitive on that "shaping" front. I guess that's why Elton John said he feels for guitar players. But the thing I could never get was how players do guitar solos up the neck and always know exactly where the in-key notes are. I've taken from your explanation it's keeping the shape of the tone/ semi-tone 'dots' on each string, moving them up and down in your head depending on the key, is the trick to always knowing. We know this logically, but your simple diagram of the dots on the strings really brought that home to me. Need to practice this with my eyes closed and forming a mental picture of those dots to really embed it in my brain. Greetings from Prague
Knowing you have this covered I won’t have to worry about it.