Learn more about Adam's workbench here: th-cam.com/video/Qg1vsumLXcY/w-d-xo.html Andrew has listed all the elements he used in building Adam's workbench, along with links where to purchase them, here: www.in-kleind.com/adam-savage-s-workbench-links Watch Andrew build Adam's bench here: th-cam.com/play/PLBtl4Z2Fk7O3gVe1OQ4rQEluKcmb1gxNN.html
couldn't you have the handle pointing strait out from the end of the original handle? Then fold it open 90` to use it? Seems like it would be less in the way that way? or at lest not stick out from the bench as much.....
Ikr, I really want this for my workshop! Starting to set up my own blacksmith shop/workshop and I have been getting great ideas from him and others. TH-cam is an amazing thing. =P
I /REALLY/ appreciate the improvements on the channel in regards to closed captioning. As a fellow deaf/hard of hearing viewer it adds so much to be able to have access to your commentary while you work. I am very happy to be back to Tested and watching your projects
My Grandad taught me to take apart stuff when I was four years old. It started with a three-pin 13A plug, and gradually got bigger and more complex. He always said that you have to watch out for the "bugger spring". That was the bit that popped out from nowhere and disappeared onto the floor! I think of him every time it happens.👍
I learned about the bugger spring (great name BTW) when I took apart a vcr to fix it. Needless to say... It remained broken, as I couldn't find the spring.
@@rcredmon You're right, "The Bugger Spring" is a great title. I have a saying my wife hates hearing....."I am going to take it apart and try and fix it, cause you can't make broken worse."
My grandparents had this old tube steel frame chair that I'd apparently always take apart. I was so young I don't even remember. But my grandpa was the one who had to put it back together 😁
@@pikapp307 I would say he still needs the slot, since the handles only fold in one (two, not sure) directions. And with how hectic he can be, that would probably annoy him rather fast (my Opinion tho).
Thought exactly the same! A slot could still be best, but not having the extra dimension and keeping the same profile of the bar over all when not in use makes the most sense!
I originally thought Adam was going to add the collapsing handle in-line with the existing one by drilling out a cavity so it would fold out to the side and be within the width of the original handle when it's put away. The folding along side still looks great!
I used to get in a lot of trouble for taking apart all of my things when I was a kid now I'm the first person they call if something's not working or they need something fixed ;)
The poetry of improving one vice by giving into another. I love it. I am also the type of person who will spend hours to gain seconds of efficiency on recurring tasks.
: D the look on Adam's face at the end is such a nice microcosm. It just goes to show: if you do something often enough, and you recognise a problem, and you're resolved to fix said problem, then at the end you not only get to enjoy the fruits of your labor but also the view from a mountaintop that you climbed. That's what his humble smirk speaks to me : )
I thought he would have it so that the handle would be totally vertical when it was closed and I surprised to see that it is sort of at a weird 4:00 angle but God this guy is so good it's not what he makes it's about making
I used to break all my toys that way. I have since learned how to take them apart more carefully or not at all if I didn't think I can take it apart relatively easy.
@@GetUpTheMountains biggest scam rule of earth. If I own something I should be able to take it apart. Also you must not know how to use a peice of Teflon and heat gun to remove security stickers intact. 🤣
Adam thank you for giving us some hope during the last 14 depressing months. Watching these videos reminds me that yes, people in t.he world are still getting stuff done
It is a fair example of going overboard finding a solution to a simple problem. Adam failed to identify the real problem here. It is that tommy bar flopping around. If it didn't do that then it'd be easy to turn quickly. If you could just set the bar in a balanced position and it stayed there then spinning it is easy to do. But trying to hold the bar and spinning it at the same time is not so easy to do. What Adam did solved the problem but in a very complicated way.
Beautifully. Nothing more satisfying than a shop fix, especially when it’s on something as magnificent as that work bench. Keep up the great work Adam and the Tested crew.
Hey Adam Savage! A ball detent system to hold the bar at a few points along its range will make the handle orbit in a smaller circle providing a faster wind! Ride ride ride!
Always makes me happy to see Adam has knolled his parts of whatever he's working on.. and then to see him unconsciously adjust and straighten the parts as he's thinking ☺️
@@thomaslindroos1667 Did you understand the intent of the message? Then your pedantry isn't helpful. In fact, I'd argue that should of is entirely correct as it's used almost more often than should have. Origin is irrelevant. Language changes. Yeet convention.
@@chrismanuel9768 quite the contrary I'm afraid, just because something is common does not mean it's correct. It's absurd that native speakers make mistakes like "should of" just because it sounds similar to "should've" and confusing "then" & "than" or "you're" & "your" and so on. I hade no intention to hurt your feelings, just pointing out a mistake.
Just wrap a coat hanger on the tommy bar. It is literally a one minute fix. Once the bar quits flopping around turning it quickly is easy when the bar is balanced. They make these fancy rubber things you can put on tommy bars for it. They're like square O rings. I think you can get better action with a wrapped coat hanger though. The coat hanger can look a bit janky. Doesn't bother me.
I did the same thing as a kid. And still take apart my tools and toys today. Pocket knives. Drills saws. Tons of diff stuff. It's slowed down lately but I wish I had more time to do it
"Tools are toys". YES Adam's 1-day builds would take me years because I would have to buy all his tools and learn how to use them.I often buy a tool for a 1-time use just because I am curious how well it works.
I love what you said about taking your tools apart- basically every tool I own, with the exception of simple things like screwdrivers etc, are all secondhand either from craigslist or from digging them up half burried where they were left a century ago when lineshaft tools started to fall out of favor. everything I use Ive gone through by hand, taking things apart down to the smallest screw to clean the rust off and get it running like new. I feel like that gives me a much better relationship with my tools as when something starts going wrong I can usually tell immediately what and where the trouble is. Plus it helps that im really not a fan of proprietary parts and so my things are all able to be repaired with simple parts from any hardware store.
*Comes for the project, stays for the stories* Love the channel! Been a big fan of yours for years! Loved watching Myth busters on tv as a teenager, now as an adult I come to this channel for ideas, Thank you Adam! You are amazing!
A small flywheel with a spring loaded handle would be perfect for this, like a flywheel from an old boatmotor, would have given some extra momentum for opening and closing the vice too.
What I do is just wire the tommy bar up so it doesn't flop around loosely. Then I can balance the bar in the socket and spin the vise very quickly. Wiring the bar up also avoids the dreaded blood blister getting caught by the end stops of the bar on the socket. When that bar comes down it hits hard. The moral of the story is don't let your bar flop around.
Love you work Adam but I had a thought you could have added the folding handle directly to the end of the handle bar and then locked in place straight and then 90 degree bend to use the lock straight without much machine work
Fantastic mod - for me, that you hardly notice the mod at all once installed is indicative of how well designed and engineered your solution is. Great share - thank you Adam!
@@doughudgens9275 Ah, it is a new piece of leather, and when it reaches the end of its useful life on the workbench, he plans to repurpose it into a build (potentially a piece from a costume).
When changing the chuck on the lathe: 1, Put a flat piece of wood on the bed to avoid damage if you drop it. 2, Hold something in the chuck, like a pipe or short broom handle, to act as a handle. Alternative to using the grub screws on their own, you could put a steel ballbearing in the slot and hold it in place with an ordinary grub screws. When the ballbearing wears out (and they will take a very long time wear) you can just put new one in; no special turning needed.
My favourite thing about all these shop mods Adam has done since lockdown is the thought of his fellow shop users coming in and seeing the changes as a wholesale difference. "WHERE IS ANYTHING, ADAM?" :D
Adam was giving me some intense Kamaji the Boilerman from Spirited Away vibes at 16:28 (I mean this in the best way possible, he's my favorite character)
@@watcherofwatchers no I get why he wanted the folding handle, my immediate thought was to place it on the end rather than through the side. Can’t argue with the end result though and it does work really well. I suppose it is all down to personal choice, just interested in the decision process.
Blue chips are nothing to be concerned with. The tool is thicker than chips are. When your tools turn blue you done messed up then. But chips are supposed to carry heat away from work.
Best advice! I started taking apart my toys also and there is just a sort of harmony of assembly and components that you start to understand that applies to every machine. That knowledge is invaluable
Adam, I know you know but please be careful wrapping scotch brite/sandpaper around spinning objects. Not trying to be the safety police but my own broken finger forces me to warn others.
@@robertbownes6718 I came to the comments to look for/write this! Having followed Adam for years it goes without saying that he is a skilled machinist but it makes me so nervous the way he puts his hands on/around parts in the lathe and mill while they are running, he has a high-energy/high speed style of working which scares the life out of me around machine tools. As for holding STEEL WOOL against a spinning piece, that’s insanity. If that stuff catches it will cut you to the bone or remove digits instantly. As you said, I hoped he might have learned his lesson from the recent accident but it seems not. Only a matter of time before something worse happens. Setting a bad example for people watching too unfortunately
@@CJH2703 Having done that with steel wool and a shaft in a drill press long long ago...the memory of it now makes me shudder. I suppose its good when we learn from even the stuff we get away with.
You can do what Adam did on a lathe relatively safely. Fingers pointed in the direction of spin is going with the flow. Fingers against spin and you risk getting jammed up. And yes Adam did it wrong. Which just goes to show that you can get away with doing it wrong. Until you get caught up. With the flow you stand a greater chance of escaping harm.
@@assassinlexx1993 Which side of the pond is that? In the UK both metric and imperial are used. My parents in their 50s use imperial almost exclusively while I, who was never taught imperial, only metric, uses metric almost exclusively (except for road signs, cus they're all in imperial)
It will always amaze me that Adam doesn’t switch to metric. I grew up with imperial just like every other American but it’s still easier to measure and compare and size things in metric rather than fractions.
@@jm1695 nope, it is a fixed piece of steel. Norman apparently missed the first 5 minutes of this video in which Adam detailed the exact issue he was hoping to solve.
@@_topikk_ I didn't miss it, I just didn't recall if Andy's handle collapsed or not... I just know he offered one as an accessory and I have it in a box somewhere in the garage
I can’t read it before I go to such a beautiful bench face that is I said dazzled me, but I think you have a very valid improvement, just wonderful. Thanks for sharing again
Probably considered and declined for a number of reasons; off the top of my head, the end caps may not be structurally significant to survive the abuse (think: if you jam your knee into it, there's a lot of force gets applied, even if it wouldn't happen in normal use), or may not have had the depth to thread, or it might have meant the handle wasn't long enough for how he wanted to use it. Or, quite possibly, he just didn't think that way. ;-]
"how pathologically impatient I am" Absolutely love that statement and made me laugh out loud, because I can relate. As always, I thoroughly enjoy watching your thought process as you go through your one-day builds. Also, the advice to always take apart your tools, and learn how they work is fantastic. I also have been doing that for years and that is how I got into the hoppy of building computers. I remember my mom, and later my wife, always asking me why something was taken apart. "Did it break?" Well, no, I just wanted to see how it worked and if it could be tweaked. LOL
Nice build! Alternatives and adjustments that I personally would like: 1) An in-line handle that can fold out perpendicular (rather than stowing off to the side, it just folds out straight in line with the main handle rod). 2) A detent (spring or whatever) so that when the handle is fully extended and vertical it won't slide down on its own.
The issues with a wheel are the size of it (more weight and obstruction, it would stick up above the surface of the vise) to get the same torque as the bar and more awkward speed changes. Also cost, that’s more machining and material.
@@slowdaze you buy a premade wheel, and this is a soft jaw vice, you're not putting 1,000 foot pounds of force into it. also- i'd machine the adapter out of hex and waterjet an ACME big ass wrench from 1/2" steel, and chain it to the table for that stuff where you need more OOMPH then a 6"-8" wheel gives.
This is what I was thinking also. A purchased dished hand wheel is what $60. The folding handle fits right in. It replaces 3 or 4 fabricated parts with one purchase part. Easy! Although some clamping force is sacrificed.
Another option that would be a cleaner design would have been to have the handle be a folding end with spinning handle. And when not in use it would look and function as it did originally. The benefit would be when you don't want to use the handle it will function as a continuous bar as before. When you want the speed, the end would bend over on a ratchet. The end portion would spin and optionally you could add knurling to the grip or add a soft rubber or leather cover. I could draw a design if you'd like to have a better idea what I mean. But a simplified explanation would be to imagine that instead of tapping the side of the bar as you did, you instead attached it to the very end of the bar.
IMPATIENT! Ha!! One man's impatience is another man's efficient. Never forget an engineering meeting on my new QD 3/8 Connectors for a test rig. The old guy said, How long does it take to get Two 3/8" Wrenches? My answere was, how long does it take to never again "GET" the wrenches. Wear and tear also resolved. 1980s Test cell time excedes $500/hrs. No leak troubleshooting = Priceless 😊
Instead of installing the new collapsible handle perpendicular to the bar why not install the collapsible handle so that it sticks out of the end of the bar and then folds over when in use? Installation would have been one tapped hole. I feel like rotation during use wouldn't have been a problem because if you are using the handle then your grip keeps the bar from rotating. If you are not using the new handle then the bar is free to rotate because the handle is stowed in line with the bar.
Hey Adam. I'm not sure if you'll see this comment, but they actually make ball detent set screws. Then you could just cut a slight groove into the bar that the ball detent screw will automatically center or click into. Then when you don't want the handles in the way, you could just give the bar a twist and it will pop out of the detents and the handles will swivel out of the way. This would solve your set screw eventually wearing out and the swiveling handles don't always feel the greatest to me, compared to a nice cast iron piece.
Sure, it looks scary. Many, many years and many machinists I have worked with have never lost fingers doing this. Yeah you can get a bruise and hurt your ego. I personally have never even gotten a bruise in 45 years.
I was surprised to see how small the collapsing handle is, especially when cranking such a large vise. Adam, you could further upgrade the new collapsing handles by adding a slightly larger handle (perhaps 4 inches long), milled out of a wood that matches the workbench frame. That would provide you with a full-hand-width crank, which should be more ergonomic. Love your innovations!
For the set screw (I'm sure you know about them, but if not) I'd recommend looking up a "Dog Point Set Screw" or the slightly tougher to get "Half Dog Point". It's the part you accentually made. We use them all the time to keep parts rotationally lock when "in Hole" with drilling equipment.
I have this vice, but I don't have the mill or lathe or machine skills to do this mod so I'll just have to waste a few more seconds and envy your handles each time I use it. Nice work.
Nah you can wire the tommy bar up with a coat hanger and make it easier to turn. It's what I do to all of my vises. Works great. What's going on here is happy horse pucky.
I've been taking things apart and putting them back together longer than I remember having things to take apart and put back together. I will make sure my children do the same.
Super cool project! Only thing I might do differently would be to cut the channel for the set screw all the way through the opposite end of the handle, and then mill the set screw's post to be square instead of round. Turn the screw in, then slide the handle down onto it, and the screw will not be able to turn or back out on you. This would also allow for tool-less handle removal.
Excellent solution. The only change I would make is to use a rounded core box shaped end mill for the groove, then round the setscrew end or trap a 3/16 steel ball with the setscrew to ride in the groove. I think there would be much less friction, wear, and opportunity for developing burrs along the slot that way. A small spring between ball and setscrew would also let you mill a shallow indent in the slot at the center line if desired.
Learn more about Adam's workbench here: th-cam.com/video/Qg1vsumLXcY/w-d-xo.html
Andrew has listed all the elements he used in building Adam's workbench, along with links where to purchase them, here: www.in-kleind.com/adam-savage-s-workbench-links
Watch Andrew build Adam's bench here: th-cam.com/play/PLBtl4Z2Fk7O3gVe1OQ4rQEluKcmb1gxNN.html
seems like you could have made your rod half as long so it would rotate faster and be easier to use
Hi Adam, dont want to get off topic but really looking forward to the Ghostbusters Ecto car, but going to be another great video
couldn't you have the handle pointing strait out from the end of the original handle? Then fold it open 90` to use it? Seems like it would be less in the way that way? or at lest not stick out from the bench as much.....
@@scoooooter2002 either way I think Adam is doing a good job, I feel like im in Shop class, lol
@@VidyaPuratana profusa hydrogel biosensor !? whats that sounds technical plus CV whats that mean
This is a fantastic mod, thank you for sharing it!
The GOAT of benches has spokith
Ikr, I really want this for my workshop! Starting to set up my own blacksmith shop/workshop and I have been getting great ideas from him and others. TH-cam is an amazing thing. =P
I can see it now the Andrew Klein's Savage Vice
Andy, I thought you already built and toyed with selling an alt handle like the one Adam built?
You gotta sell this mod as an option - "Twin Turbo Vice w/ Savage Handle"
"I don't have all second!" Is an incredibly relatable joke, that almost everyine can relate to.. living our lives too fast
Like an internet loading pause: “Give it a second! It’s #*&! going through outer space!”
For decades I've wondered why they tell us computers are faster than people when I spend all my time waiting on them :-).
@@RichardBuckman well through the ocean mostly but still over some crazy distances
Waiting sure can be hard sometimes. Often have to wait for a forklift and that waiting time probably could have finished a job.
Kinda wonder if that's an intentional Reboot reference.
I /REALLY/ appreciate the improvements on the channel in regards to closed captioning. As a fellow deaf/hard of hearing viewer it adds so much to be able to have access to your commentary while you work. I am very happy to be back to Tested and watching your projects
/Hey/thats/really/great/man///fantastic/
My Grandad taught me to take apart stuff when I was four years old. It started with a three-pin 13A plug, and gradually got bigger and more complex.
He always said that you have to watch out for the "bugger spring". That was the bit that popped out from nowhere and disappeared onto the floor!
I think of him every time it happens.👍
I learned about the bugger spring (great name BTW) when I took apart a vcr to fix it. Needless to say... It remained broken, as I couldn't find the spring.
Bugger springs are one of many in the category of pingfuckits.
@@rcredmon You're right, "The Bugger Spring" is a great title. I have a saying my wife hates hearing....."I am going to take it apart and try and fix it, cause you can't make broken worse."
My grandparents had this old tube steel frame chair that I'd apparently always take apart. I was so young I don't even remember. But my grandpa was the one who had to put it back together 😁
First thought I had was the collapsible handle on the end instead of the side.
same
Yep… tap the cap rather than the pipe. Leave the existing handle in place because who cares if it spins.
Definitely went the long way around to what could have been a simple solution.
@@pikapp307 I would say he still needs the slot, since the handles only fold in one (two, not sure) directions. And with how hectic he can be, that would probably annoy him rather fast (my Opinion tho).
Thought exactly the same! A slot could still be best, but not having the extra dimension and keeping the same profile of the bar over all when not in use makes the most sense!
I originally thought Adam was going to add the collapsing handle in-line with the existing one by drilling out a cavity so it would fold out to the side and be within the width of the original handle when it's put away. The folding along side still looks great!
I was thinking the exact same thing: It would've had an even lower profile!
Same! I guess time will tell.
me three.. that would be a simple solution.. just drill into or replace an end cap.
I guess I make 4 xD had the same thought
This is what should have been done, much better design.
I used to get in a lot of trouble for taking apart all of my things when I was a kid now I'm the first person they call if something's not working or they need something fixed ;)
Hell yeah brother!
I didn't get into trouble for taking apart my things, but did for taking apart my big sister's casette player
same here.
It's easy enough to get to 90%. That 90% will suit most people in most circumstances.... that final 10% of personalized perfection is... Chef's Kiss!
“My vices are a little bit more useful now”
if ever a quote belonged on a t-shirt...
Yes this one hit me in the soul. Lol
I don't think I could stop myself from buying that t-shirt.
I mean, yeah, if you're going to overlook the difference in spelling, then I would absolutely buy that t-shirt.
Great point
In the UK, vice and vice are spelled vice. I believe the US use different spellings for vice and vise...
There is nothing i like more, then beeing in my own shop doing leather or woodwork and listen and watch Adam in the background and be inspired
The poetry of improving one vice by giving into another. I love it. I am also the type of person who will spend hours to gain seconds of efficiency on recurring tasks.
As an avid motorsport fan, i live to find fractions of a second, everywhere
: D the look on Adam's face at the end is such a nice microcosm. It just goes to show: if you do something often enough, and you recognise a problem, and you're resolved to fix said problem, then at the end you not only get to enjoy the fruits of your labor but also the view from a mountaintop that you climbed. That's what his humble smirk speaks to me : )
Adam's infectious joy for making things has gotten me through this pandemic. And also inspired me to make my own maker's space in my garage.
Eagle eyed viewers are going to keep tabs on how often Adam forgets to fold the handle up after he's done.
Next upgrade, spring loaded handle which folds back up on its own
I would bet a cheap bottle of wine that he wont fold the handle back even once.....
@@Carpetcleanerman 100%. We've seen Adam work too much to think anything else.
I thought he would have it so that the handle would be totally vertical when it was closed and I surprised to see that it is sort of at a weird 4:00 angle but God this guy is so good it's not what he makes it's about making
You know it
It’s awesome seeing Adam this excited. I wish I had the street cred or the cash for that matter to get one of Andrew’s benches. Fantastic engineering.
That look of pure joy when you tried it out the first time - priceless!
Biggest takeaway from this one... "Every tool you have. Take it apart, put it together, take it apart, put it together."
I used to break all my toys that way. I have since learned how to take them apart more carefully or not at all if I didn't think I can take it apart relatively easy.
Just make sure its something you are capable of putting back together. I've made that mistake before lol
@@GetUpTheMountains biggest scam rule of earth. If I own something I should be able to take it apart. Also you must not know how to use a peice of Teflon and heat gun to remove security stickers intact. 🤣
I rarely buy big tools new. As some other TH-camr says: “I am the warranty”
Learning to judge what one should/shouldn’t poke around in is just as important as the poking itself :)
The OCD in me wants Adam to clock the gears so the handle rest vertically when fully closed. Great mod Adam!
Likely a pointless endeavor, since it's a 2-speed vice. Changing gears will mess up the calibration of that alignment.
I remember when this bench showed up. My first thought was I'd put a knuckle buster like a truckers steering wheel on the vice handle!
Adam thank you for giving us some hope during the last 14 depressing months. Watching these videos reminds me that yes, people in t.he world are still getting stuff done
If Mythbusters was still a thing, "I don't have all second" would absolutely become one of our favorite catch phrases. 👏🏼
This is an excellent example of how every design can be improved upon, especially by the end users.
It is a fair example of going overboard finding a solution to a simple problem. Adam failed to identify the real problem here. It is that tommy bar flopping around. If it didn't do that then it'd be easy to turn quickly. If you could just set the bar in a balanced position and it stayed there then spinning it is easy to do. But trying to hold the bar and spinning it at the same time is not so easy to do. What Adam did solved the problem but in a very complicated way.
Beautifully. Nothing more satisfying than a shop fix, especially when it’s on something as magnificent as that work bench. Keep up the great work Adam and the Tested crew.
Hey Adam Savage! A ball detent system to hold the bar at a few points along its range will make the handle orbit in a smaller circle providing a faster wind! Ride ride ride!
0:58 - This was a thoughtful and considered "and".
Yeah, what would easily be a "but" was a respectful and deliberate "and".
Always makes me happy to see Adam has knolled his parts of whatever he's working on.. and then to see him unconsciously adjust and straighten the parts as he's thinking ☺️
Should of titled the video "I reject your vice handle and substitute my own." :D
Hahaha, awesome reference xD
Should have*
@@thomaslindroos1667 Did you understand the intent of the message? Then your pedantry isn't helpful. In fact, I'd argue that should of is entirely correct as it's used almost more often than should have. Origin is irrelevant. Language changes. Yeet convention.
@@chrismanuel9768 quite the contrary I'm afraid, just because something is common does not mean it's correct.
It's absurd that native speakers make mistakes like "should of" just because it sounds similar to "should've" and confusing "then" & "than" or "you're" & "your" and so on.
I hade no intention to hurt your feelings, just pointing out a mistake.
@@chrismanuel9768 And you'd be wrong in that argument and its justification.
Adams enthusiasm gets me back into Making every time.
Adam, next time try using a ball bearing and spring under the set screw with a small hole in the slot, this will lock the handle in at pre set stops
Or a screw in ball detent from McMaster Carr
@@warrantyvoid100 th-cam.com/video/pO5g5pJANEc/w-d-xo.html
A nice job now we get another one day build out of it 👍
Just wrap a coat hanger on the tommy bar. It is literally a one minute fix. Once the bar quits flopping around turning it quickly is easy when the bar is balanced. They make these fancy rubber things you can put on tommy bars for it. They're like square O rings. I think you can get better action with a wrapped coat hanger though. The coat hanger can look a bit janky. Doesn't bother me.
I did the same thing as a kid. And still take apart my tools and toys today. Pocket knives. Drills saws. Tons of diff stuff. It's slowed down lately but I wish I had more time to do it
Extra love to the editing job on this one!
Tools ARE toys! The original Mr. Machine was my first unbuild-rebuild memory.
"Tools are toys". YES
Adam's 1-day builds would take me years because I would have to buy all his tools and learn how to use them.I often buy a tool for a 1-time use just because I am curious how well it works.
I love what you said about taking your tools apart- basically every tool I own, with the exception of simple things like screwdrivers etc, are all secondhand either from craigslist or from digging them up half burried where they were left a century ago when lineshaft tools started to fall out of favor. everything I use Ive gone through by hand, taking things apart down to the smallest screw to clean the rust off and get it running like new. I feel like that gives me a much better relationship with my tools as when something starts going wrong I can usually tell immediately what and where the trouble is. Plus it helps that im really not a fan of proprietary parts and so my things are all able to be repaired with simple parts from any hardware store.
Spends two hours to save two seconds. Efficiency!
Seriously though, great idea and fun project.
*Comes for the project, stays for the stories* Love the channel! Been a big fan of yours for years! Loved watching Myth busters on tv as a teenager, now as an adult I come to this channel for ideas, Thank you Adam! You are amazing!
Much love from Alaska!
A small flywheel with a spring loaded handle would be perfect for this, like a flywheel from an old boatmotor, would have given some extra momentum for opening and closing the vice too.
What I do is just wire the tommy bar up so it doesn't flop around loosely. Then I can balance the bar in the socket and spin the vise very quickly. Wiring the bar up also avoids the dreaded blood blister getting caught by the end stops of the bar on the socket. When that bar comes down it hits hard. The moral of the story is don't let your bar flop around.
I hope I'm not alone in finding Adam's videos not only inspiring, but therapeutic.
Love you work Adam but I had a thought you could have added the folding handle directly to the end of the handle bar and then locked in place straight and then 90 degree bend to use the lock straight without much machine work
Fantastic mod - for me, that you hardly notice the mod at all once installed is indicative of how well designed and engineered your solution is. Great share - thank you Adam!
Adam still needs to make a larger leather cover/pad for the workbench
the one that's already there seems to work for him
I think it's sized to allow the bench dogs to function.
@@FizzicksDude I thought he just kept on using the one he had for his older, slightly smaller, bench.
@@doughudgens9275 Ah, it is a new piece of leather, and when it reaches the end of its useful life on the workbench, he plans to repurpose it into a build (potentially a piece from a costume).
@@tested Rolling shop stool needs a new leather top... next 1 day build?...
The sheer joy in the work for Adam always makes me smile. Nothing is better to see than passions on someones face doing something they love to do.
When changing the chuck on the lathe: 1, Put a flat piece of wood on the bed to avoid damage if you drop it. 2, Hold something in the chuck, like a pipe or short broom handle, to act as a handle.
Alternative to using the grub screws on their own, you could put a steel ballbearing in the slot and hold it in place with an ordinary grub screws. When the ballbearing wears out (and they will take a very long time wear) you can just put new one in; no special turning needed.
Very good advice.
Watching Adam work is mesmerizing.
"Blood in the water", with machinist oil. Same with me. But with gun oil, burnt power, and hot brass.
My favourite thing about all these shop mods Adam has done since lockdown is the thought of his fellow shop users coming in and seeing the changes as a wholesale difference.
"WHERE IS ANYTHING, ADAM?" :D
Adam was giving me some intense Kamaji the Boilerman from Spirited Away vibes at 16:28 (I mean this in the best way possible, he's my favorite character)
I'm always amazed at how often Adam works out the design form something in his head. We never saw him write anything down or calculate measurements.
Curious as to why you did not place the folding handle on the end of the Tommy bar….
I think that would of been to easy for him
Curious as to why you didn't accept his reasoning as provided in the video.
@@watcherofwatchers no I get why he wanted the folding handle, my immediate thought was to place it on the end rather than through the side. Can’t argue with the end result though and it does work really well. I suppose it is all down to personal choice, just interested in the decision process.
@@TheChiefSmeg69 I think the fold on the end would not hold up to the torque in that position given it's design.
@@mycarolinaskies you are probably right, but just for the fast traverse it might have been ok. Love the end product though
One of the things u gotta love about Adam, even the best is not good enough.
I was freaking out when the chips were coming out blue I was like coolant coolant! And then you came in with it I was like ahh.😊
Blue chips are nothing to be concerned with. The tool is thicker than chips are. When your tools turn blue you done messed up then. But chips are supposed to carry heat away from work.
Best advice! I started taking apart my toys also and there is just a sort of harmony of assembly and components that you start to understand that applies to every machine. That knowledge is invaluable
Adam,
I am curious how much color you add to your hair by running greasy fingers through them.
"I don't have all second!" Spends all of those built up seconds at once to get rid of em. Love it. 💘
Adam, I know you know but please be careful wrapping scotch brite/sandpaper around spinning objects. Not trying to be the safety police but my own broken finger forces me to warn others.
I was thinking “Didn’t Adam learn the last time he almost degloved a finger?”...
@@robertbownes6718 I came to the comments to look for/write this! Having followed Adam for years it goes without saying that he is a skilled machinist but it makes me so nervous the way he puts his hands on/around parts in the lathe and mill while they are running, he has a high-energy/high speed style of working which scares the life out of me around machine tools. As for holding STEEL WOOL against a spinning piece, that’s insanity. If that stuff catches it will cut you to the bone or remove digits instantly. As you said, I hoped he might have learned his lesson from the recent accident but it seems not. Only a matter of time before something worse happens. Setting a bad example for people watching too unfortunately
@@CJH2703 Having done that with steel wool and a shaft in a drill press long long ago...the memory of it now makes me shudder. I suppose its good when we learn from even the stuff we get away with.
You can do what Adam did on a lathe relatively safely. Fingers pointed in the direction of spin is going with the flow. Fingers against spin and you risk getting jammed up. And yes Adam did it wrong. Which just goes to show that you can get away with doing it wrong. Until you get caught up. With the flow you stand a greater chance of escaping harm.
The close-ups on the lathe and endmill in this video are really satisfying.
Me every time Adam tasks about imperial drill sizes : thanks God metric exists
When he goes into the various descriptions of a single imperial measurement I just think "How and why has this nonsense persisted for so long?"
You just on the other side of the pond. Quite happy with the way we measure our products. The king's foot has never let us down.
@@assassinlexx1993 Which side of the pond is that? In the UK both metric and imperial are used. My parents in their 50s use imperial almost exclusively while I, who was never taught imperial, only metric, uses metric almost exclusively (except for road signs, cus they're all in imperial)
I honestly zone out pretty much every time someone uses imperial measurements, especially when it's small measurements, like thousands of an inch etc.
@@Stettafire
Here from the colonies. The land of Freedom.
It will always amaze me that Adam doesn’t switch to metric. I grew up with imperial just like every other American but it’s still easier to measure and compare and size things in metric rather than fractions.
FYI: Andy Klein makes a handle accessory
does it fold though, Iremember it being able to move through but always sticks out?
@@jm1695 nope, it is a fixed piece of steel. Norman apparently missed the first 5 minutes of this video in which Adam detailed the exact issue he was hoping to solve.
@@_topikk_ I didn't miss it, I just didn't recall if Andy's handle collapsed or not... I just know he offered one as an accessory and I have it in a box somewhere in the garage
@@jm1695 It sticks out
@@normancovington2777 I hate when my tommy bar sticks out in the shop.
I can’t read it before I go to such a beautiful bench face that is I said dazzled me, but I think you have a very valid improvement, just wonderful. Thanks for sharing again
Chinese manufacturing plants watching Adam's videos: "Write that down! Write that down!"
Efficiency is key
Is a tool and die student I absolutely love watching you machine it’s mesmerizing how you work
Would it not have been easier to tap the handles into the end caps so they were inline
Probably considered and declined for a number of reasons; off the top of my head, the end caps may not be structurally significant to survive the abuse (think: if you jam your knee into it, there's a lot of force gets applied, even if it wouldn't happen in normal use), or may not have had the depth to thread, or it might have meant the handle wasn't long enough for how he wanted to use it. Or, quite possibly, he just didn't think that way. ;-]
I thought the same thing
"how pathologically impatient I am"
Absolutely love that statement and made me laugh out loud, because I can relate.
As always, I thoroughly enjoy watching your thought process as you go through your one-day builds.
Also, the advice to always take apart your tools, and learn how they work is fantastic. I also have been doing that for years and that is how I got into the hoppy of building computers. I remember my mom, and later my wife, always asking me why something was taken apart.
"Did it break?"
Well, no, I just wanted to see how it worked and if it could be tweaked. LOL
I wonder how long until Adam does install an overhead crane in his shop. 😂
Nice build! Alternatives and adjustments that I personally would like:
1) An in-line handle that can fold out perpendicular (rather than stowing off to the side, it just folds out straight in line with the main handle rod).
2) A detent (spring or whatever) so that when the handle is fully extended and vertical it won't slide down on its own.
I have my great-grandfather's wood working bench.
That bench is amazing. Props to the maker.
I think he should’ve put a wheel with a knob on it instead
The issues with a wheel are the size of it (more weight and obstruction, it would stick up above the surface of the vise) to get the same torque as the bar and more awkward speed changes. Also cost, that’s more machining and material.
@@slowdaze you buy a premade wheel, and this is a soft jaw vice, you're not putting 1,000 foot pounds of force into it. also- i'd machine the adapter out of hex and waterjet an ACME big ass wrench from 1/2" steel, and chain it to the table for that stuff where you need more OOMPH then a 6"-8" wheel gives.
@@SignalJones more parts, more machining more price. Seriously Andy covers all of this in his videos, you should check them out.
This is what I was thinking also. A purchased dished hand wheel is what $60. The folding handle fits right in. It replaces 3 or 4 fabricated parts with one purchase part. Easy! Although some clamping force is sacrificed.
Another option that would be a cleaner design would have been to have the handle be a folding end with spinning handle. And when not in use it would look and function as it did originally.
The benefit would be when you don't want to use the handle it will function as a continuous bar as before. When you want the speed, the end would bend over on a ratchet. The end portion would spin and optionally you could add knurling to the grip or add a soft rubber or leather cover.
I could draw a design if you'd like to have a better idea what I mean. But a simplified explanation would be to imagine that instead of tapping the side of the bar as you did, you instead attached it to the very end of the bar.
20:48 The towel arrives on Adams shoulder and stays for the rest of the video.
IMPATIENT! Ha!!
One man's impatience is another man's efficient.
Never forget an engineering meeting on my new QD 3/8 Connectors for a test rig.
The old guy said, How long does it take to get Two 3/8" Wrenches?
My answere was, how long does it take to never again "GET" the wrenches.
Wear and tear also resolved.
1980s Test cell time excedes $500/hrs.
No leak troubleshooting = Priceless 😊
How about a 737 trim wheel as a handle?
That was my thought too. A wheel also looks cool 😎
Gosh darn it, Adam! I was trying to type "choke" while watching you mess with the lathe and couldn't figure out why I kept typing "chuck"!
4:13 I literally said aloud, "mill a slot..."
And Adam answered back.
Lmfao
I was thinking he would use a ball-plunger type set scre in the stem of the vise rather than milling a slot - but... with the new mill... LOL
It’s not a live time bench, it’s a multi-generationally bench. That thing will live for ever. It’s amazing and a beast.
We need a vid on the (very quiet...) SHARP!!
Instead of installing the new collapsible handle perpendicular to the bar why not install the collapsible handle so that it sticks out of the end of the bar and then folds over when in use?
Installation would have been one tapped hole. I feel like rotation during use wouldn't have been a problem because if you are using the handle then your grip keeps the bar from rotating. If you are not using the new handle then the bar is free to rotate because the handle is stowed in line with the bar.
This is exactly what i was thinking, have it on the end and fold out. The whole bar is then straight when you dont need the folded bit.
Yeah. Feels like a much more simple option.
Hey Adam. I'm not sure if you'll see this comment, but they actually make ball detent set screws. Then you could just cut a slight groove into the bar that the ball detent screw will automatically center or click into.
Then when you don't want the handles in the way, you could just give the bar a twist and it will pop out of the detents and the handles will swivel out of the way.
This would solve your set screw eventually wearing out and the swiveling handles don't always feel the greatest to me, compared to a nice cast iron piece.
I wonder what would Adam do, if Jamie went to his shop and exploded a 2-liter bottle of diet coke all over his lathe? ;)
He would never do that. But he moved tools to a different location. That would drive Adam bananas.
It’s diet. Hose the thing down, dust with CRC and move on.
Grab regular coke, though.......
Dude! I seriously need to upgrade my bench and bandsaw!!! You’re an inspiration 🤗
@12:53 I hate it when he does that. Asking to lose a finger imo.
Sure, it looks scary. Many, many years and many machinists I have worked with have never lost fingers doing this. Yeah you can get a bruise and hurt your ego.
I personally have never even gotten a bruise in 45 years.
@@frijoli9579 I know it's a common practice, but not a good one. Adam almost lost a finger last year doing this.
@@felixcharpentier5941 pretty sure it was disassembled for cleaning and some safety measures were skipped.
@@frijoli9579 I was told that you never want the work spinning into your hand. You want your fingers pointing in the direction of spin.
So true about taking apart your tools. Knowledge is the best power!
Andrew Klein did a version of this, maybe a year ago? Either way, i like yours more Adam!
Did you watch the video at all? That's who built his workbench.
I was surprised to see how small the collapsing handle is, especially when cranking such a large vise. Adam, you could further upgrade the new collapsing handles by adding a slightly larger handle (perhaps 4 inches long), milled out of a wood that matches the workbench frame. That would provide you with a full-hand-width crank, which should be more ergonomic. Love your innovations!
Trigger warning. It's been such a long time but I just had PTSD thigh pain from repressed workshop memories.
Machinists thigh. oof.
5 years since I was in a machine shop. Still have a bruise just above my knee
When I was a in a bit better shape I would have only dreamed of having the tooling you have at hand. AMAZING.
That poor lathe, it sounds like one of the ball bearings got replaced with a nut.
Next time on Adam Savage's Tested: I bought a new lathe. ;-)
therapeutic to watch adam do his thing
"Everything you own you should take it apart so you know what is inside"
Apple would like to know your location
For the set screw (I'm sure you know about them, but if not) I'd recommend looking up a "Dog Point Set Screw" or the slightly tougher to get "Half Dog Point". It's the part you accentually made. We use them all the time to keep parts rotationally lock when "in Hole" with drilling equipment.
"lifetime bench"
probably take most people a lifetime to afford one >.>
I have this vice, but I don't have the mill or lathe or machine skills to do this mod so I'll just have to waste a few more seconds and envy your handles each time I use it. Nice work.
Nah you can wire the tommy bar up with a coat hanger and make it easier to turn. It's what I do to all of my vises. Works great. What's going on here is happy horse pucky.
Adam - shame on you - the man builds you a bench and you dont watch his channel - he has already done thus mod🤪🧐
As someone who makes things too I am S O O O jealous of the shop you have!
I’m so jealous of your Milling Machines.
Really enjoy the videos.
I've been taking things apart and putting them back together longer than I remember having things to take apart and put back together. I will make sure my children do the same.
Super cool project! Only thing I might do differently would be to cut the channel for the set screw all the way through the opposite end of the handle, and then mill the set screw's post to be square instead of round. Turn the screw in, then slide the handle down onto it, and the screw will not be able to turn or back out on you. This would also allow for tool-less handle removal.
Excellent solution. The only change I would make is to use a rounded core box shaped end mill for the groove, then round the setscrew end or trap a 3/16 steel ball with the setscrew to ride in the groove. I think there would be much less friction, wear, and opportunity for developing burrs along the slot that way. A small spring between ball and setscrew would also let you mill a shallow indent in the slot at the center line if desired.