Worst placed finish in the Super League era, including the most losses we’ve had in a Super League season. At this point it’s just upsetting how much the standards have dropped within the club across 2 seasons, rewarding mediocrity with contract extensions etc…
No excuses. Next to being a full squad and we lose yet again. That attack is so piss poor, it hurts my head. I see fans saying it’s not Wello’s fault that the players knock on. I disagree. The shite attack and slow play results in those knock ons. Lowest finish since 1994 and we sign a contract extension for him. Moronic!
Don't worry wello wont be coach after next season than briers will take over, you all want to stop sulking am a Wigan fan and when I when I kid I went through pain watching them I nearly saw us get relegated, worst I've seen saints finish in the league is 6th in 30 years of living, you guys need to stop crying, I waited 16 years to see Wigan lift a trophy😂
@@ryanmcguinness7898 if we accept mediocrity then the club will stay mediocre. We didn’t progress from Cunningham without fans complaining and talking with their pockets. We then proceeded with 4 in a row. We’re just doing the same again.
@@Aidan_Stanley98 take Wardle, marshall, field an French out of Wigans team and and we're average oh Thompson he's class but most of our players are average and just above, either way just without field and French we're useless lol, you won it 4 seasons on the bounce. Last season you wasn't for of the final an finished 2nd or 3rd and this year half the team as been injured for most of it
@@Aidan_Stanley98 salary cap is killing it for us aswell it doesn't allow for us to have a team full of quality, problem is Wigan won all 3 trophies last season and still made a loss of 1.6 million, on average we've got the best fan base aswell so if we're losing 1.6 it's unbelievable that Warrington only lost 100k more, am not to sure what you's have lost but surly your club is running at a loss too. Very worrying for the future of the sport
Kev, well done for not rising to the bait cast by your counterpart. Absolutely ridiculous to say everything went against us. We’ve the most blinkered fan base in the league!
Behave. Both those first two decisions were a stitch up. Especially the first. Better performance but we're not contenders right now. But we still got stitched up.
Completely agree, Leigh the victims of some poor ref decisions tonight but were simply the better team, physically stronger and more skill across the back line.
You didn’t win any of the 50/50’s 😂😂. In that first 20 mins you talk about Ricky had the ball pushed out in the tackle which you won but granted it was hard to see. Ipape has the ball knocked out of his hand (blatantly) on your line and you got that decision then Macintosh gets the ball kicked out of his hand (again blatantly) and you get that decision. And the disallowed try he needed to run through the inside shoulder so as not to impede the defender. Try watching it again lads
Completely flat as usual....no proper attack and haven't had for the last 2 seasons. Whenever we get the ball we lose it.We deserve nothing this season......long long way to go and I don't think Wello is the man to turn it around. The man is a great Saint but so was K.C. Forever a Saint. ?
WELLO OUT.......................Next week is going to be painful & a long off season. Buying a season ticket next year is 50/50 atm for me. Wello is not the answer. 😠😠😠
Forget the sour grapes, Leigh did well to beat a very competitive Saints team. If they have the right mind set, Warrington will have to be at their very best to progress. 50/50 game really. 50/50 decisions everywhere. That player that tackled Welsby - man of the match - but he got it wrong - could have been red - looked like Welsby milking but he wasn't...
either Wello resigns or the board have to make the decision and relieve him of his duties and no if's or but's about it , a major rebuild needed and that might take a couple of seasons to get the balance right but either way we will not be competing for top spot any time soon
The disallowed try I have seen them given for less than that could have changed the outcome of the game, if saints were at home I am sure they would have won, but on the night they were second best.
Sadly, discipline is dreadful however you tolerate or butter it up, Moore and Thaler will annihilate us. Anderson sorted it years ago and Wello was present then in the Ian Smith era. Lying on time and time again we are our worst enemies. Attack is abysmal and running up the middle into their forwards week in week out is inexcusable. Do that next week against Warrington and may as well just concede the game now. Wello never saw that as a player, so why are we doing it under his reign. We are far far better than what we are displaying. Play to out strength, quick play the balls, get the ball wide through depth in the attacking line and move their forwards around. The fans and players deserve to be part of what we used to be.
@@leonhay2968 il laugh now if saints knock you's out next very brave comment from someone who follows that bottle job club, haven't yous played in like 3/4 grand finals and lost them all I know we've beat you in 2/3 grand finals
Another loss and more of the same excuses. We can fix this and we can fix that but we just don’t and continue to produce dross!! Too many mistakes one week too many penalties the next 🤷♂️ Under this coaching set up we are going to continue to flounder and it doesn’t matter which players are brought in. I get Lee Briers coming in hopefully will make a difference so next year is a big year for Wello. If we continue to be 💩 then next year will be his last as head coach. If the coaching set up is not good enough then sentiments need to be put to one side and decisions made. I have said that even with a fully fit squad we will still only ever be the nearly men under this particular set up. Make a semi final,make a grand final but just not good enough to win it. We are being coached using tactics from a by gone era. Rugby has moved on from 15-20 years ago and that is why we are 6th and lucky to be there. P.S Dave is a closet bin dipper stood outside that refuse door (Pass it on) 😂
Some poor decisions in attack in again, which must be coached. Last tackle, Centre playing the ball, winger at dummy half, Dodd gets the ball we go blind!! First half he gets caught, second half poor kick. There is no one there!
I thought Dave made some excellent points. There were some big 50/50 calls tonight. The disallowed try was a bizarre decision. Sione has nowhere to go. We cough up too much possesion and put ourselves under pressure. We didn't ice our chances . Our attack has been poor all year if we are honest. But it's one of rugby from here on in . Just give it our best shot. There is fixes in that display and if we get it right we can win next week . Anything can happen
Propping up the rest of the NW teams but at least we scored against 12. Used to struggle with that 😒 Delaney and Lees doesn't work. Why bring Noah off at the end when he's carrying defenders with him??
I can't help but laugh at the irony of this reaction outside the "Refuse Store" - i.e. THE BIN... where our season has been in 2024... 😂 I'd be happy to be proved wrong but I'll just be glad when 2024 is over... It's been a year of downs with some ups... To think we can compete against any team in 1-5 is just dreaming.
The disallowed try was harsh, but so was the sin bin. Leigh looked up for it and were more violent, more aggressive and played the better rugby. Sailor will inject with some much needed pace but the squad as whole needs a lot of work
Easy to say in hindsight, and Sam Tomkins made the point after the game, but we would have performed better with Percy at right centre and Sione in the left, but on the whole, the result was probably the right one.
Gents the ref kept Saints in it most of the night, especially the first half. A major rebuild is needed starting in the halves - that was not Saints as the RL world knows them - devoid of ideas and working overtime to get players sent off
Best team won. Ipape was cutting your forwards in half. Harsh on Matautia but he did also drop 3 balls. Leutele was never a yellow and that was when Saints got back in to it.
It was strange how is it that sky only show certain replays AFTER the decision? After the Asiata score they show an angle that indicates a knock on. After Leutele gets a yellow card they show a replay showing a clear shoulder to Welsbys head possibly worthy of a red card. Mmmmm 🫤
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Worst placed finish in the Super League era, including the most losses we’ve had in a Super League season. At this point it’s just upsetting how much the standards have dropped within the club across 2 seasons, rewarding mediocrity with contract extensions etc…
No excuses. Next to being a full squad and we lose yet again.
That attack is so piss poor, it hurts my head.
I see fans saying it’s not Wello’s fault that the players knock on. I disagree. The shite attack and slow play results in those knock ons.
Lowest finish since 1994 and we sign a contract extension for him. Moronic!
Don't worry wello wont be coach after next season than briers will take over, you all want to stop sulking am a Wigan fan and when I when I kid I went through pain watching them I nearly saw us get relegated, worst I've seen saints finish in the league is 6th in 30 years of living, you guys need to stop crying, I waited 16 years to see Wigan lift a trophy😂
@@ryanmcguinness7898 if we accept mediocrity then the club will stay mediocre. We didn’t progress from Cunningham without fans complaining and talking with their pockets. We then proceeded with 4 in a row. We’re just doing the same again.
@@Aidan_Stanley98 take Wardle, marshall, field an French out of Wigans team and and we're average oh Thompson he's class but most of our players are average and just above, either way just without field and French we're useless lol, you won it 4 seasons on the bounce. Last season you wasn't for of the final an finished 2nd or 3rd and this year half the team as been injured for most of it
@@Aidan_Stanley98 salary cap is killing it for us aswell it doesn't allow for us to have a team full of quality, problem is Wigan won all 3 trophies last season and still made a loss of 1.6 million, on average we've got the best fan base aswell so if we're losing 1.6 it's unbelievable that Warrington only lost 100k more, am not to sure what you's have lost but surly your club is running at a loss too. Very worrying for the future of the sport
Kev, well done for not rising to the bait cast by your counterpart. Absolutely ridiculous to say everything went against us. We’ve the most blinkered fan base in the league!
Behave. Both those first two decisions were a stitch up. Especially the first. Better performance but we're not contenders right now. But we still got stitched up.
Completely agree, Leigh the victims of some poor ref decisions tonight but were simply the better team, physically stronger and more skill across the back line.
Two poor decisions for their first score and our no try.
But 18-12 flattered us. Our pack got mullered
You didn’t win any of the 50/50’s 😂😂. In that first 20 mins you talk about Ricky had the ball pushed out in the tackle which you won but granted it was hard to see. Ipape has the ball knocked out of his hand (blatantly) on your line and you got that decision then Macintosh gets the ball kicked out of his hand (again blatantly) and you get that decision. And the disallowed try he needed to run through the inside shoulder so as not to impede the defender. Try watching it again lads
Completely flat as usual....no proper attack and haven't had for the last 2 seasons. Whenever we get the ball we lose it.We deserve nothing this season......long long way to go and I don't think Wello is the man to turn it around. The man is a great Saint but so was K.C.
Forever a Saint.
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WELLO OUT is all that needs to be said this year.
Need new players regardless of who the coach is,big ears isn't helping tho
@@paulrobinson7156 we still have a good squad.. they are just all underperforming and badly coached .. everyone needs to wake up to that
The guy is untouchable. McManus and rush will use every excuse possible to keep him.
WELLO OUT.......................Next week is going to be painful & a long off season. Buying a season ticket next year is 50/50 atm for me. Wello is not the answer. 😠😠😠
Forget the sour grapes, Leigh did well to beat a very competitive Saints team. If they have the right mind set, Warrington will have to be at their very best to progress.
50/50 game really. 50/50 decisions everywhere. That player that tackled Welsby - man of the match - but he got it wrong - could have been red - looked like Welsby milking but he wasn't...
Shoulder charge used to be red. No attempt to wrap.
either Wello resigns or the board have to make the decision and relieve him of his duties and no if's or but's about it , a major rebuild needed and that might take a couple of seasons to get the balance right but either way we will not be competing for top spot any time soon
They won't sack him too much sentiment from the club.
Quite fitting to be stood by the refuse store after yet another performance like that.
Check wire v saints dummy runner takes out Lomax creating a 3 on 2 and they score. The try becomes BETFRED try of the round and repeatedly shown !!!!!
Our discipline and performance and video ref lost us the game. Just not at the races and got out gunned by Leigh forwards.
The disallowed try I have seen them given for less than that could have changed the outcome of the game, if saints were at home I am sure they would have won, but on the night they were second best.
KR fan here. Love your show. Very honest. Hopefully see you in the final x
Sadly, discipline is dreadful however you tolerate or butter it up, Moore and Thaler will annihilate us. Anderson sorted it years ago and Wello was present then in the Ian Smith era. Lying on time and time again we are our worst enemies.
Attack is abysmal and running up the middle into their forwards week in week out is inexcusable. Do that next week against Warrington and may as well just concede the game now. Wello never saw that as a player, so why are we doing it under his reign.
We are far far better than what we are displaying.
Play to out strength, quick play the balls, get the ball wide through depth in the attacking line and move their forwards around. The fans and players deserve to be part of what we used to be.
Wello has to go… Ex.players Do not work..
Imagine excusing the loss on a disallowed try 🤣🎣
Greg Richards 1 Wire 0 lad 😂😂
Dufty is going to rip you to pieces next week. Not a chance you beat warrington and wigan. End the season now. Great job wellens 😂😂
Not a Saints fan then 😂
@@leonhay2968 il laugh now if saints knock you's out next very brave comment from someone who follows that bottle job club, haven't yous played in like 3/4 grand finals and lost them all I know we've beat you in 2/3 grand finals
Kev is very diplomatic but at times it would be nice if he just took the fence out of his arse.
That was a joke by the way.
@@tonyriggerha - I've ordered my Arsene Wenger glasses this morning #IDidntSeeIt
Another loss and more of the same excuses.
We can fix this and we can fix that but we just don’t and continue to produce dross!!
Too many mistakes one week too many penalties the next 🤷♂️
Under this coaching set up we are going to continue to flounder and it doesn’t matter which players are brought in.
I get Lee Briers coming in hopefully will make a difference so next year is a big year for Wello.
If we continue to be 💩 then next year will be his last as head coach.
If the coaching set up is not good enough then sentiments need to be put to one side and decisions made.
I have said that even with a fully fit squad we will still only ever be the nearly men under this particular set up.
Make a semi final,make a grand final but just not good enough to win it.
We are being coached using tactics from a by gone era.
Rugby has moved on from 15-20 years ago and that is why we are 6th and lucky to be there.
P.S Dave is a closet bin dipper stood outside that refuse door (Pass it on) 😂
If its not bad enough that he cant coach his interview after is alarming.wake up mcmanus and do something
Some poor decisions in attack in again, which must be coached. Last tackle, Centre playing the ball, winger at dummy half, Dodd gets the ball we go blind!! First half he gets caught, second half poor kick. There is no one there!
I thought Dave made some excellent points. There were some big 50/50 calls tonight. The disallowed try was a bizarre decision. Sione has nowhere to go. We cough up too much possesion and put ourselves under pressure. We didn't ice our chances . Our attack has been poor all year if we are honest. But it's one of rugby from here on in . Just give it our best shot. There is fixes in that display and if we get it right we can win next week . Anything can happen
Propping up the rest of the NW teams but at least we scored against 12. Used to struggle with that 😒
Delaney and Lees doesn't work. Why bring Noah off at the end when he's carrying defenders with him??
I can't help but laugh at the irony of this reaction outside the "Refuse Store" - i.e. THE BIN... where our season has been in 2024... 😂
I'd be happy to be proved wrong but I'll just be glad when 2024 is over... It's been a year of downs with some ups... To think we can compete against any team in 1-5 is just dreaming.
We got a bit of luck with the sin bin and we still didn’t get the result. Really disappointing season. Is Wellens the man to take us forward?
The disallowed try was harsh, but so was the sin bin. Leigh looked up for it and were more violent, more aggressive and played the better rugby. Sailor will inject with some much needed pace but the squad as whole needs a lot of work
Easy to say in hindsight, and Sam Tomkins made the point after the game, but we would have performed better with Percy at right centre and Sione in the left, but on the whole, the result was probably the right one.
Score flattered us. Outplayed in all departments. Shit attack deflates us and saps our confidence.
Gents the ref kept Saints in it most of the night, especially the first half. A major rebuild is needed starting in the halves - that was not Saints as the RL world knows them - devoid of ideas and working overtime to get players sent off
Was that video taken outside the Saints dressing room 🤔
Best team won. Ipape was cutting your forwards in half. Harsh on Matautia but he did also drop 3 balls. Leutele was never a yellow and that was when Saints got back in to it.
Kev get that splinter out of your ar£e
Utter bullshit. He called it as it was!
Humour me - which bit(s)
Bit of banter that’s all Kev love what you do
@richtee9888 good man- I was tired doing it, tired when I read it and couldn't tell.
Bit like the replay I didn't see!!!
It was strange how is it that sky only show certain replays AFTER the decision? After the Asiata score they show an angle that indicates a knock on.
After Leutele gets a yellow card they show a replay showing a clear shoulder to Welsbys head possibly worthy of a red card. Mmmmm 🫤