Wait, wait, wait.... they put Morag, an ally attack champion, into the PP Programme while simultaneously nerfing ally-attack? They are straight up trolling now...
they're trolling. black ops 6 zombis has been soooooo much fun, how could they keep someone that plays many different types of games interested in their game when they keep doing crap like this? this game's not even been on my mind at all since bo6 came out. who cares any more. they're gonna keep over nerfing & balancing their game, so what.. time to move on to other games yall.
I like your optimism, but people put in time effort and money(last one i didn't), spend hours and they are hit by plarium's greed and incompetence. I'm glad i quit.
ikr like clan boss fights 2 times a day has been the extent for the double rewards just to go & pull a ton of rares & epics. thanks a ton, ya got me plarium. got me to spend less & less time in game..
Really?! They literally said in the patch video 2 weeks ago that all the damage would still be counted even if it exceeded the hp that decapitated head had left.
@@aplear87 technical damage still counted 😁😁 but only for one hit. I think this all nonsence only ciz they introduce milestone rewards and realized that too many people geting them every week instead of only krakens
There is also a bug with serpent's will appearing more often than it should. A burn tick between hydra heads respawning will bring them both back with serpent's will even if no other champs or hydra heads had a turn.
Im done running manual hydra keys. Dont give af about the rewards. The people who work at this company are completely incompetent and lack any sort of ethics
Also for FK she uses ally attack even when other skills are priority or set as Opener. RAID is not becoming terrible for no reason. There is some effort into it.
Nah. They won't. They never do. You either play or don't play and it's your choice. As long as people are spending money on it, they'll be ok with that.
I'm surprised you've even waited this long not to play it. soon as they made the change last week or two weeks ago or whatever i put it right down. and definitely time to move on to other games/interests judging from how the fun police are in full effect over at plarium. oh well!
A game is supposed to be FUN. Dealing damage is FUN, it gives satisfaction and happiness. Why do they want the hydra to be this HARD ? It's frustrating enough, considering how competitive it is, and the rewards we get are random ?
Plarium said that they want to encourage more diversity in hydra teams but this additional change now eliminates a whole slew of potentially competitive comps. Seems counterintuitive to do this. Clearly not well thought through.
Hard to have diversity in the first place when very specific types of champions are needed to tackle this game mode from each hydra heads unique moveset.
Plarium: Our changes shouldn't impact too heavily on your ability to get decent Hydra scores Also Plarium: We're gonna keep nerfing Hydra until you can't get decent hydra scores
@@43steelersfan43 It's different and takes some getting used to, but it's really good imo. Don't want to give any spoilers. Do give it a try when you can and see what you think.
Quit this game 2 months ago after playing since 2019 and 29 million player power. My real quality of life has improved drastically, and seeing stuff like this makes it easy not to play again
Thanks for finding issues like this and making the community aware! I hope this was something unintended by Plarium. If not, this is a very sketchy move my Plarium. It would be dishonest not to call attention to this change, and a disservice to their player base who enjoys Hydra.
Multi hit is a bug, ally attack is intended. They will fix multi hit as they "hear is", probably in couple of months. I guess the intention to nerf it all had 0 to do with trunda, and all to do with we are getting too many rewards and growing too fast. We can grow fast again, just buy more gear sets, energy and uy more champs. Ofcourse imagine if they actually told us that. I would appreciate the honesty - most people would not. I do recall a boss of mine telling me you should threat this guy as a mushroom - "Keep him in the shade, and feed him s***" Shady stuff... Maybe I am just sore that this was the last straw and we are 7 people down in the guild due to people quiting and probably not recover from it, most of them btw spenders so they will see that in the books...
Just when I finally started building decent teams, they hit us with these nerfs. Unbelievable! It’s so infuriating. Why do they do this to the player base? Clearly, they don’t care about the community.
that is exactly where i am at as well. was considering moving up a difficulty because finally it looked possible & then all this crap. like i don't care enough about all the teeny tiny changes i just want a fun game to play.
on Ash's video Plarium said "they forgot " to add this change into the notes..lol..they must think we're morons..they didn't forget..their just screwing over their players
THIS IS WHAT WE WERE SAYING! This is how it was on the test server before the patch went live and why we were saying they killed ally attack. Was very happy to be wrong about it...until now.
Saph, please know that I love your videos, but in your 1st video after the change, you mentioned that a problem was overkill damage! Also, the CCs mentioned how crazy HP nukers became because of the changes. I finally started using Team Attacks and finally fused my Mikage, so I need to really think about how to use it. I get that they suck for not talking about it, but I hope that this video helps them make some more changes.
Yeah, he mentioned this before, I think he thought it was a bug then. Apparently he's upset that they fixed the bug after he figured out how to exploit it
@@Bruce-ez6zd well, they didn't really fix it, overkill is still calculated, not just for anything more than 1 attack. Clearly this is just complete incompetence from the dev team once again.
Yeah so Trunda is what i mean - because they allow overkill and the way she is configured she can hit extremely high numbers. If they deny overkill then she is much less valuable. This is the worst version - they allow overkill but only big single hits (which trunda is OP) so before we had competitive options (Teox/Ally Attack/Multihitters like gharol thor a1s etc) now we lose those also. So the overkill is specifically tailored for trunda.
@@HHGamingNetwork I completely understand the issue with Trunda, and all the changes they have been attempting seem to make a mess elsewhere. Watching a newer HH video with Simon he shows that the World Record with Trunda is a little over 6 billion (could get up to 8). What was the record before? The changes make Hydra way harder but honestly the crazy scores have dropped down and made battles in mid game so much more fair. Once my clan made it to the level to face just 1 Trunda team the battle was over. Saph I know you are going to make Fateless Gaming such a great company and the Games will be on point!
Remember on the 1st live stream after hydra and ppl were saying Teox teams are dead cos heads will respawn when the 1st attack does overkill, guess we was all right lol at least Trunda will move even further ahead after they made hydra work like it should
Every player who is a Hydra investor, needs to write in 1 ticket complaint to the company. Players WILL hear the call and band together. If anyone makes a video to do that, I'm sure that will get a lot of positive community traction.
right!? like i literally don't have the time for their chores list because i have an actual job that pays me to do it. rather than this which is making more & more work on people.
Man I'm not a person that usually feels like I want to quit but it's starting to get there they nerfed everything I do now my Tara's team is nerfed and I'm still watching trunda smack... wth I never even complained about her
for me what feels like might have happened they made some change to get the targeting to work properly but along the process of it somehow kind of made the exposed hydra head being defeated somewhat work as killing a champion because when a champion is killed in waves this also happens but you probably won't be able to use this to benefit from "when target gets killed x happens" abilities
My best team is now my Brutal team, which already got slightly screwed over because one of its main sources of damage is Alaz. And Alaz no longer guaranteed double hits on downed heads with his aoe because they don't count as being below half hp anymore. But now his double hit won't even proc in the first place with this change. Thanks Plarium.
I've left a comment about the time on the game being outrageous everywhere I can because I like the game and want to keep playing but they just keep giving me more reasons to quit, it's about time again.
I know it will never happen, But everyone needs to stop playing hydra mode until they fix or revert the changes. If everyone stops playing that game mode we show them they killed it.
Guys I have a very mid-game account and at this level something very odd is going on ie I don't have the same issue discussed here. But, my damage today is averaging about 20% of my normal. Down at this level Hydra appears to be totally screwed. I'm getting runs with 10% of what I can normally hit. Very odd.
Also.... since the previous Hydra changes, hasn't Plarium featured Teox in a summoning event? I seem to remember a lot of people pulling for him because he was going to be a gong show... so this seems extra-shitty of them to first 'sell' Teox to all the spenders, an then do a hidden unannounced nerf on him.
Why didn't they just initiate a cap on damage that any one head could take per hit/multi - (2mm individual, 1mm multi) and leave the rest of the mechanics alone - why introduce all these new champs with damage increasing skills and make them irrelevant - they have effectively killed this game mode - it used to be fun to strategize new team comps - now there is no poin
Hey man we all feel the same pain. Hydra a late gamers fun area has been messed with. Everyone is less engaged with it . But surely this is an error as essentially they are devaluing skills that make champs what they are. Hopefully through cc's and Plarium chat channels we can get some clarity.
they kill Taunt skill, they kill enfeeble skill and now they kill Ally attack and multiple hit... Oh I might know the answer, they will create in the futur a new skill only for Hydra so the new meta champions will have it and they think we gonna buy their shitty new hydra champions.... so much like you Plarium...
Also theres something wonky with champ att pn auto. They initially always seem to wanna target living heads, not exposed necks. I am so fed up Iquit the game and deleted it today. And I am never going back...
So they nerfed shield builds, ally attack builds multi hit builds, and ofc taunt builds, the thing they set out to fix is Trunda, Trunda is now still the best and only viable team outclassing any other set up, oh why is this always so predictable with Plarium. BTW Scratch was not happy I can tell you that.
Hydra before the big changes to trunda and wixwell was getting to be my favorite gameplay in the game and now i dont even wants to it, just got onryo at the krisk progressive, so was kinda stooked to get to use him and now its just not fun Note: i dont even got a trunda.
Doesn't affect 'all teams'. Only the overpowered ones that can do huge damage. It will bring all players closer together in total damage, so that no one player can beat an entire clan. I saw evidence that it prevents all overage damage. Trunda/Thor is a problem now though.
went from running 3 full manual teams all the way through enjoying min maxing now im just done with the game mode and slap it on auto, pretty much just dead content now
Honestly, I think this only affects big whale ally attack teams. My nightmare team with mikage/ninja was doing around 130 mil post 1000 turn limit change. Today I ran with the patch and it did 212. I think what is going on is previously when running auto they didn't attack the decap heads enogh, now with the patch they are fully targeting, pumping up my damage. Even if once in a while I lose some on the ally attack. So dont really think this a problem at all for a majority of the player base. Or I just got a super lucky key this time.
Trunda is NOT the problem, Yumeko is! TBH, it doesn't matter at this point after hydra is hugely buffed they absolutely ruined it. Ever since they introduced hydra, I've been struggling to get the max rewards for my 3 teams, after years of continuous efforts I could finally hit the thresholds! But then plarium decided to bring hydra clash!! Then again after barely getting 2 billion points, they buffed the already stupidly annoying bustard and I'm down to 0.7 billion.. WTF I'm outta here
There is a simple fix for current situation. Remove excess damage and increase decapitated hp to 1000%. Then you have ally/multi attacks and max hp champions are back in hydra meta
Unfortunately this also affects low level teams, as in my case, I was barely getting a head down now completely, with some extra damage precisely from this multi attack, in order to get my one key on normal. NOW, I need to struggle even more! Hydra ain't for level 45 or whenever it's unlocked. It's for level 100 and a Trunda. GG. Thanks for the update!
It looks like they don't even do the work themself, hire some dev for weekend work, pay him and hope it worked. I've called for new management since the start of 2024. Look how bad they fucked up this game since then...
Can't decide whether the issue is that Plarium purposely tried to hide this change as long as possible to avoid pre-emptive outrage or were they focused on trying to fix a problem that could have been exploited by bad actors to "spoof" damage (not sure how) and they didn't know how long it would take to resolve so they didn't want to publicize the problem. If it was the later, they should have come out and said that during the patch release. If it was the former (which seems most likely), they are assuming we'll all just get over it (and they are probably right). I don't think they ever intend to really resolve the issues.
Pre-nerf hydra was super unbalanced for hydra clash ONLY, so they made a super complicated change to end up with a worse version that is still super unbalanced. But wait (Plarium cracks nuckles , hold my beer, we can fix this) proceeds to break the game mode even more. (nods head, job well done. People will still spend money on Trunda)
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Wait, wait, wait.... they put Morag, an ally attack champion, into the PP Programme while simultaneously nerfing ally-attack? They are straight up trolling now...
they're trolling. black ops 6 zombis has been soooooo much fun, how could they keep someone that plays many different types of games interested in their game when they keep doing crap like this? this game's not even been on my mind at all since bo6 came out. who cares any more. they're gonna keep over nerfing & balancing their game, so what.. time to move on to other games yall.
@@nicodemolalli5643 Love seeing a random Zombies enjoyer in a niche separate topic video
Saph returrns from a 2 week hiatous with BAD news!! ;-) Great vid and breakdown man.
I like your optimism, but people put in time effort and money(last one i didn't), spend hours and they are hit by plarium's greed and incompetence. I'm glad i quit.
Plarium wants people to quit playing their game
I was thinking the same
They succeded
Good thing I already quit then! 😂
I mean.....
Gonna play king arthur till godforge comes out..
At this point, why they don't just remove Hydra? They clearly don't want us to engage in that content, so, remove it
ikr like clan boss fights 2 times a day has been the extent for the double rewards just to go & pull a ton of rares & epics. thanks a ton, ya got me plarium. got me to spend less & less time in game..
I checked the raid discord and they stated it’s not a bug either, insane
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Yeah I reported the same concern, got the same answer 😕
Wow, did not see that. I assumed it was likely a bug. So much for that!
Really?! They literally said in the patch video 2 weeks ago that all the damage would still be counted even if it exceeded the hp that decapitated head had left.
@@aplear87 technical damage still counted 😁😁 but only for one hit. I think this all nonsence only ciz they introduce milestone rewards and realized that too many people geting them every week instead of only krakens
I smell a 10X event for Trunda coming soon 😂😂😂😂
or a new plarium paypoint champion with ally attack being added .... hmm...
Plarium: "You want to compete in hydra?? Get Trunda.."
Im so ready for Godforge
Same fateless seem like they understand things better
@@jamespb44 join king arthur
That game is way far from finish, author rise of legend is way to go.
@@ace03cobra67 yes and godforg is the same as raid
You and me and everyone in Raid right now. 🎉
Just make Hydra immune to all damage and effects. Go for it.
There is also a bug with serpent's will appearing more often than it should. A burn tick between hydra heads respawning will bring them both back with serpent's will even if no other champs or hydra heads had a turn.
It’s working as intended. 😅😢🤬
I'm sure they will fix it when they are done with the nerfs. They have a few hundred more champs (except trunda) to nerf
According to Scratch, Plarium Devs told him that is the intended mode they went with and they ain't fixing anything
I've heard that the Ally Attack part is intended, while the Multi-Attack part is actually bring investigated as a bug.
We’ll see about that.
Im done running manual hydra keys. Dont give af about the rewards. The people who work at this company are completely incompetent and lack any sort of ethics
My mikage always auto attacks serpents will still even with damage eligible heads up so they didn't even fix the AI
Yup, it's frustrating as all get out.
Also for FK she uses ally attack even when other skills are priority or set as Opener. RAID is not becoming terrible for no reason. There is some effort into it.
The only solution vs plarium : we all quit the game mode. No one plays it for 1 or 2 weeks. If we are united, we can force them by their "analyticals"
My clan might excuse me, but I rather leave than keep enabling Plarium
Sad thing is people won’t unite. If we did. It would help. 😊
Nah. They won't. They never do. You either play or don't play and it's your choice. As long as people are spending money on it, they'll be ok with that.
I'm surprised you've even waited this long not to play it. soon as they made the change last week or two weeks ago or whatever i put it right down. and definitely time to move on to other games/interests judging from how the fun police are in full effect over at plarium. oh well!
Well, they did say they wanted players to spend less time on hydra. Mission accomplished!?!
Plarium - sucking the joy out of gaming with EVERY.SINGLE.PATCH since 2018. There we go.
And you still need 650 mil to get the highest chest.
Bravo 👏
A game is supposed to be FUN. Dealing damage is FUN, it gives satisfaction and happiness. Why do they want the hydra to be this HARD ? It's frustrating enough, considering how competitive it is, and the rewards we get are random ?
5:45
I really hope they don't know what they're doing, because the other option is that they're doing this on purpose
Plarium said that they want to encourage more diversity in hydra teams but this additional change now eliminates a whole slew of potentially competitive comps. Seems counterintuitive to do this. Clearly not well thought through.
Hard to have diversity in the first place when very specific types of champions are needed to tackle this game mode from each hydra heads unique moveset.
Not well thought through my ass. They knew 100% what they were going for and it was not comp diversity.
Plarium: Our changes shouldn't impact too heavily on your ability to get decent Hydra scores
Also Plarium: We're gonna keep nerfing Hydra until you can't get decent hydra scores
That new King Arthur game sounds pretty good right about now...
might aswell try king arthur
Ah found what they did,the Loki bugfix for Hydra is what changed the entire code so now they dont wanna go in and fix the change.
Playing king Arthur at the mo. Very good replacement for Raid. Not sure I'll be coming back to it.
Doesn't release for me yet until the end of the month. It looks amazing though. Can't wait to play it!
@@43steelersfan43 It's different and takes some getting used to, but it's really good imo. Don't want to give any spoilers. Do give it a try when you can and see what you think.
@@43steelersfan43 im playing on my ipad and im not in canada it easy on ios
We asked to fix the ally attack when mikage was targetting serpent buff and they fixed it in their way
I'm so confused by this. I truly can't comprehend how they think that this will encourage people to play the game?
Quit this game 2 months ago after playing since 2019 and 29 million player power. My real quality of life has improved drastically, and seeing stuff like this makes it easy not to play again
you know what ... i don't even care that i spent 4 years playing this game , this is about as far as i can push it .
Skratch was doing a champion showcase in Test Server with King Garog and he had the same thing happened and he thought it was a bug as well xD
Yeah, I'm not playing that any more. 36.6M and I'm out of there. **** 'em.
Thanks for finding issues like this and making the community aware! I hope this was something unintended by Plarium. If not, this is a very sketchy move my Plarium. It would be dishonest not to call attention to this change, and a disservice to their player base who enjoys Hydra.
Multi hit is a bug, ally attack is intended. They will fix multi hit as they "hear is", probably in couple of months. I guess the intention to nerf it all had 0 to do with trunda, and all to do with we are getting too many rewards and growing too fast. We can grow fast again, just buy more gear sets, energy and uy more champs. Ofcourse imagine if they actually told us that. I would appreciate the honesty - most people would not. I do recall a boss of mine telling me you should threat this guy as a mushroom - "Keep him in the shade, and feed him s***" Shady stuff... Maybe I am just sore that this was the last straw and we are 7 people down in the guild due to people quiting and probably not recover from it, most of them btw spenders so they will see that in the books...
Just when I finally started building decent teams, they hit us with these nerfs. Unbelievable! It’s so infuriating. Why do they do this to the player base? Clearly, they don’t care about the community.
that is exactly where i am at as well. was considering moving up a difficulty because finally it looked possible & then all this crap. like i don't care enough about all the teeny tiny changes i just want a fun game to play.
5:38 The look on your face and the comment "They don't know what they're doing" says it all so well.
on Ash's video Plarium said "they forgot " to add this change into the notes..lol..they must think we're morons..they didn't forget..their just screwing over their players
They just killed my top team...which was made to work with their rules...thanks. In other news King Arthur Legends Rise looks good so far.
Yea thats it on hydra progress for me. Already went from 400 mill 80 mill before this newest change, im over wasted effort
might aswell join king arthur
You guys seem to forget that Plarium does't even try to run a good game. They try to run a good casino
You didn’t say Fenax. I have two built 6 star CR….they are both pissed
Time to quit... unfortunately
THIS IS WHAT WE WERE SAYING! This is how it was on the test server before the patch went live and why we were saying they killed ally attack. Was very happy to be wrong about it...until now.
Saph, please know that I love your videos, but in your 1st video after the change, you mentioned that a problem was overkill damage! Also, the CCs mentioned how crazy HP nukers became because of the changes. I finally started using Team Attacks and finally fused my Mikage, so I need to really think about how to use it. I get that they suck for not talking about it, but I hope that this video helps them make some more changes.
Yeah, he mentioned this before, I think he thought it was a bug then. Apparently he's upset that they fixed the bug after he figured out how to exploit it
@@Bruce-ez6zd well, they didn't really fix it, overkill is still calculated, not just for anything more than 1 attack. Clearly this is just complete incompetence from the dev team once again.
Yeah so Trunda is what i mean - because they allow overkill and the way she is configured she can hit extremely high numbers. If they deny overkill then she is much less valuable.
This is the worst version - they allow overkill but only big single hits (which trunda is OP) so before we had competitive options (Teox/Ally Attack/Multihitters like gharol thor a1s etc) now we lose those also.
So the overkill is specifically tailored for trunda.
@@HHGamingNetwork I completely understand the issue with Trunda, and all the changes they have been attempting seem to make a mess elsewhere. Watching a newer HH video with Simon he shows that the World Record with Trunda is a little over 6 billion (could get up to 8). What was the record before? The changes make Hydra way harder but honestly the crazy scores have dropped down and made battles in mid game so much more fair. Once my clan made it to the level to face just 1 Trunda team the battle was over. Saph I know you are going to make Fateless Gaming such a great company and the Games will be on point!
I didn't even have a damn Trunda (after 4 years still NEVER pulled one) and my hydra teams sucked. Screw hydra now, I'm done
That and the "Win a live arena" quest, they really want to kill their game ....
I’m so glad I sold my account. The changes recently have been the biggest joke. How anyone still wants to play or spend on this is crazy to me
Remember on the 1st live stream after hydra and ppl were saying Teox teams are dead cos heads will respawn when the 1st attack does overkill, guess we was all right lol at least Trunda will move even further ahead after they made hydra work like it should
I was surprised when it didn't but now the change to overkill feels worse.
its like they actively want to keep ruining hydra
Watch them make a 25x event with ONLY ally attackers
Every player who is a Hydra investor, needs to write in 1 ticket complaint to the company. Players WILL hear the call and band together.
If anyone makes a video to do that, I'm sure that will get a lot of positive community traction.
i miss when playing raid wasn't a job
right!? like i literally don't have the time for their chores list because i have an actual job that pays me to do it. rather than this which is making more & more work on people.
I lost 5 matches in a row in Live Arena after the update. This has never happened before.
DAYUM. that is rough.
Man I'm not a person that usually feels like I want to quit but it's starting to get there they nerfed everything I do now my Tara's team is nerfed and I'm still watching trunda smack... wth I never even complained about her
Try King Arthur Legends rise, great game to play until Godforge
Agree, best game out there next to raid
Its almost as if they're rolling out a red carpet for godforge to come in and take their players. Lol gotta love it!
They continue to ruin their own game. It’s amazing how they can be so oblivious.
Great to have your commentary back Saph. Oh dear, Plarium - roll on GodForge launch!!!
Started playing King Arthur today and left Raid alone for the first time in a year
for me what feels like might have happened they made some change to get the targeting to work properly but along the process of it somehow kind of made the exposed hydra head being defeated somewhat work as killing a champion because when a champion is killed in waves this also happens but you probably won't be able to use this to benefit from "when target gets killed x happens" abilities
My best team is now my Brutal team, which already got slightly screwed over because one of its main sources of damage is Alaz. And Alaz no longer guaranteed double hits on downed heads with his aoe because they don't count as being below half hp anymore. But now his double hit won't even proc in the first place with this change. Thanks Plarium.
I've left a comment about the time on the game being outrageous everywhere I can because I like the game and want to keep playing but they just keep giving me more reasons to quit, it's about time again.
I know it will never happen, But everyone needs to stop playing hydra mode until they fix or revert the changes. If everyone stops playing that game mode we show them they killed it.
Taking abilities from users for balancing, is the lowest form of game design choice you can make. That has been true for decades. This is nuts.
They also have no idea how to test their updates or dont test them at all... Their level of incompetence is baffling.
This has single handedly destroyed all my work on hydra. Thor, Georgid, Othorion are just 3 of my champions that have been rendered almost useless.
i have teox so im greatly affected with this nerf since he's my main team for hydra but im so tired fighting Plarium with this hydra bs.
Guys I have a very mid-game account and at this level something very odd is going on ie I don't have the same issue discussed here. But, my damage today is averaging about 20% of my normal. Down at this level Hydra appears to be totally screwed. I'm getting runs with 10% of what I can normally hit. Very odd.
This might actually make me quit
I Have never Seen a Company That make so many wrong decisions Back to back to back like this You literally Pushing everyone Away
Also.... since the previous Hydra changes, hasn't Plarium featured Teox in a summoning event?
I seem to remember a lot of people pulling for him because he was going to be a gong show... so this seems extra-shitty of them to first 'sell' Teox to all the spenders, an then do a hidden unannounced nerf on him.
Why didn't they just initiate a cap on damage that any one head could take per hit/multi - (2mm individual, 1mm multi) and leave the rest of the mechanics alone - why introduce all these new champs with damage increasing skills and make them irrelevant - they have effectively killed this game mode - it used to be fun to strategize new team comps - now there is no poin
and herei was grinding marius missions to try and get him to try something with now i can just relax and leave hydra alone
Hey man we all feel the same pain. Hydra a late gamers fun area has been messed with. Everyone is less engaged with it . But surely this is an error as essentially they are devaluing skills that make champs what they are. Hopefully through cc's and Plarium chat channels we can get some clarity.
What the actual F. I just rebuilt my teams for ally attack.
I did notice this in my run, thor got a decapitated head to 0 hp, his passive went off and it only attacked the other 3 heads.
they kill Taunt skill, they kill enfeeble skill and now they kill Ally attack and multiple hit... Oh I might know the answer, they will create in the futur a new skill only for Hydra so the new meta champions will have it and they think we gonna buy their shitty new hydra champions.... so much like you Plarium...
this is so frustrating - is plarium just a server with a few chatgpt bots writing code?
the Plarium dev's have killed hydra, what once was a fun game mode, is now just a shit show of bad decisions by the dev's.
Also theres something wonky with champ att pn auto. They initially always seem to wanna target living heads, not exposed necks. I am so fed up Iquit the game and deleted it today. And I am never going back...
So they nerfed shield builds, ally attack builds multi hit builds, and ofc taunt builds, the thing they set out to fix is Trunda, Trunda is now still the best and only viable team outclassing any other set up, oh why is this always so predictable with Plarium. BTW Scratch was not happy I can tell you that.
theyve ruined the only game mode where you can let your champs loose and go ham instead of fixing the cheese teams smh
Hydra before the big changes to trunda and wixwell was getting to be my favorite gameplay in the game and now i dont even wants to it, just got onryo at the krisk progressive, so was kinda stooked to get to use him and now its just not fun
Note: i dont even got a trunda.
Doesn't affect 'all teams'. Only the overpowered ones that can do huge damage. It will bring all players closer together in total damage, so that no one player can beat an entire clan.
I saw evidence that it prevents all overage damage. Trunda/Thor is a problem now though.
Just Skratch video on this as well. This is beyond stupid. Raid just loves outdoing themselves in stupidity.
went from running 3 full manual teams all the way through enjoying min maxing now im just done with the game mode and slap it on auto, pretty much just dead content now
They just really want to see the new arthurian game succeed.
After my taunt loop teams got fucked, further bad news for my mikage team. 🤮🤮🤮
Honestly, I think this only affects big whale ally attack teams. My nightmare team with mikage/ninja was doing around 130 mil post 1000 turn limit change. Today I ran with the patch and it did 212. I think what is going on is previously when running auto they didn't attack the decap heads enogh, now with the patch they are fully targeting, pumping up my damage. Even if once in a while I lose some on the ally attack. So dont really think this a problem at all for a majority of the player base. Or I just got a super lucky key this time.
Trunda is NOT the problem, Yumeko is! TBH, it doesn't matter at this point after hydra is hugely buffed they absolutely ruined it. Ever since they introduced hydra, I've been struggling to get the max rewards for my 3 teams, after years of continuous efforts I could finally hit the thresholds! But then plarium decided to bring hydra clash!! Then again after barely getting 2 billion points, they buffed the already stupidly annoying bustard and I'm down to 0.7 billion.. WTF I'm outta here
4:13... the last time i laugh this hard was with the chicken counter bug in the test server....... hahahahahaha...
There is a simple fix for current situation. Remove excess damage and increase decapitated hp to 1000%. Then you have ally/multi attacks and max hp champions are back in hydra meta
I'm thinking very bad things about Plarium right now. Hard to reconcile such an overall great game with such mind-bogglingly dumb decisions.
I am considering quiting the game, now that King Arthur has arrived.
Unfortunately this also affects low level teams, as in my case, I was barely getting a head down now completely, with some extra damage precisely from this multi attack, in order to get my one key on normal. NOW, I need to struggle even more! Hydra ain't for level 45 or whenever it's unlocked. It's for level 100 and a Trunda. GG. Thanks for the update!
They must just want people to not even wanna do hydra I don’t get it
It looks like they don't even do the work themself, hire some dev for weekend work, pay him and hope it worked. I've called for new management since the start of 2024. Look how bad they fucked up this game since then...
I have skipped hydra for 2 weeks by accident because i have gone from 300-400m to 30-40m... none of my teams work anymore...
Every time plarium makes an update I keep thinking I wish godforge was out already
king arthur
My team isn't affected. I don't usually kill the necks. My teams big damage is HP burn activators, but I only play down in hard and normal.
Can't decide whether the issue is that Plarium purposely tried to hide this change as long as possible to avoid pre-emptive outrage or were they focused on trying to fix a problem that could have been exploited by bad actors to "spoof" damage (not sure how) and they didn't know how long it would take to resolve so they didn't want to publicize the problem.
If it was the later, they should have come out and said that during the patch release. If it was the former (which seems most likely), they are assuming we'll all just get over it (and they are probably right). I don't think they ever intend to really resolve the issues.
Pre-nerf hydra was super unbalanced for hydra clash ONLY, so they made a super complicated change to end up with a worse version that is still super unbalanced. But wait (Plarium cracks nuckles , hold my beer, we can fix this) proceeds to break the game mode even more. (nods head, job well done. People will still spend money on Trunda)