Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics bk. 7 | Akrasia or Lack of Self-Control | Philosophy Core Concepts
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This is a video in my new Core Concepts series -- designed to provide students and lifelong learners a brief discussion focused on one main concept from a classic philosophical text and thinker.
This Core Concept video focuses on book 7 of Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics, where Aristotle discusses lack of self control, called in Greek "akrasia". He discusses how this lack of self-control can take place, and whether it involves knowing something to be bad or wrong and nevertheless choosing it.
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This should be required teaching in public schools.
That would indeed be something!
You don't have more self-control when younger, not in the sense being discussed here. Younger people are notoriously driven by desire and pleasure, against reason's dictates, according to Aristotle
Excellent video. Thank you. Well done and easy to understand.
Thanks for the core concepts series, it's nice for when you don't have a lot of time, or are merely impatient. :-)
You're welcome -- glad you find it useful
Very well explained!
thank you.
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great lecture
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Well, that would mean having a desire (which is affective) for intellectual goods, for enjoyment of them. It wouldn't mean intellect is itself a desire.
There is an interconnection between desire and intellect for Aristotle -- but they do remain distinguishable from each other
If we're being very strict interpreters of Aristotle, intellect itself -- considered as a faculty -- wouldn't be desirable as such. It would be its activities (learning, reflecting, putting things together), its habitus/hexis (since knowledge, etc. is that for Aristotle), and its objects (e.g. learning about X, where X is something you want/desire to know)
your a great teacher... wish I had you for ethics lol
Well, I do offer online classes and tutorials. . . .
So basically intellect can be desirable as long as it falls under some desire (wants, cravings, etc.) and itself is not a desire?
Very nice video on a very important topic in my opinion. I am curious how would a perfectionist fit into all this? Say that he really is super strict with himself, like really strict ( leaving all sorts of mental disorders aside, no Rain Man stuff), despite being in control with everything, isn't he lacking control when it comes to desiring perfection? ( I find this rather paradoxical)
+seba viruzab What seems paradoxical to it, I suppose, is that "self-control" is being used in multiple senses. The "self-control" of a perfectionist isn't really self-control in the full sense
+Gregory B. Sadler Indeed.
+Gregory B. Sadler How do you think Aristotle would classify the perfectionist or what sort of vice would he posses ( I guess he has a vice because he seems to be taking an extreme position regarding the virtue of moderation ) ?
Because of this video, I bought and read "Irrationality An Essay on Akrasia, Self-Deception, and Self-Control" by Alfred R. Mele. I now realize that I married because of the desire to marry more than looking into the qualities of the man (we divorced years ago), against my better judgment. I wish I would have seen your video or read more on this when I was young.
Well, I can say that I married my first time for some similarly misguided reasons. I don't know that for me, having had any good advice would have helped at the time. So, I can certainly commiserate!
Gregory B. Sadler Exactly. My friends and family tried talking me out of marriage. But I was stubborn, and in love. With age comes wisdom, for most, anyway.
englishgal234 Yep. Some of my friends and family tried. Others knew how stubborn I was, and didn't even bother!
Couldn't intellect be a desire since people do like to be smart? I mean a person would do anything to achieve it or gain intellect so would that in turn make intellect into a desire since people want it?
I know its a weird question but knowing things and doing things with reason to me is a sort of desire and pleasure.
What about Epictetus Akrasia? Ive heard he has a different view on it.
He doesn't use that term, as far as I know. But he does discuss how it is that we end up going against what we on some level know to be right - generally because we think that the wrong thing is right. . .
Gregory B. Sadler I think he uses it in the discourses but anyways... So according to Epictetus it's just poor judgment? I mean I know that water is better than coke but sometimes I drink coke even though I'm a hundred percent aware of the poor choice that I'm making. A minute later I regret it. :(
Followyourideas (Aikido Shodokan) So you read Epictetus in Greek? Can't recall ever coming across "akasia" or "akrates" in the text, so if you know the passage, I'd be interested to get the reference. A search using Perseus turned up nothing.
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Unfortunately only the introduction is in English.
I'm aware of your videos in stoicism I really like them... I'm doing the enchiridion mini course at the moment. Great material.
when Aristotle excludes children from his lectures, how is that related to akrasia?
No idea what you're asking.
It’s okay I figured it out. Thank God it wasn’t on the test
Why do you have less control about yourself when you are older and why more when you are young? Is it just for the health factor?
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I think that's what american shows are made of^^