Deadpool isn't crazy. He can see through the multiverse. When he looks at and talks to camera he's talking to our universe. That's why he knows the actors. And the characters timelines too.
Surprised nobody has considered seeing Fantastic 4, Inhumans, or Xmen in the next season of What If?. Wouldn't that be such an easy way to explain so much without having to spend so much?
I don’t think they would have all those in What If season 2 until they are introduced in the 616 universe. Which Fantastic Four might be before What If comes out. X-men and Injumans would have to wait. Maybe a what if season 3 if they make one
Professor Charles Xavier: Just because someone stumbles and loses their way it doesn't mean they are lost forever. We all need a little help sometimes. I LOVE THESE WORDS. THEY MOTIVATE ME EVERYDAY.
One could say 838 Strange stumbled and lost his way.. then they killed him. So much for “doesn’t mean they’re lost forever, we all need a little help sometimes” 😂
Don't we all? That said, as a Wanda-stan and an Ororo-stan, I want those two to go off on each other during Avengers: Secret Wars or Avengers: Multiversal War, whichever they end up calling it.
That would be an interesting move if Marvel Studios decided to tell the story between the end of Days of Future Past and Logan (2023-2029). By opening up the multiverse, the playing field has gotten much much larger.
I always believed that DoFPs "fixed" future and Logans future are in themselves branched paths, one set in the fox Xmen timeline and the other in the wolverine timeline (due to contradictions in the stories, like deadpool or how Logan got his adamantium skeleton) because frankly it would be horrific to think that Logan saved the future only for it to go an equally bad path anyway.
@@dstr001 Like one where Wolverine never went back into the past (Logan branch), and one where he did (Days of Future Past). Logan always felt like DoFP never happened.
@@mikelambsworld4368 I agree. And that's probably all an emotional reaction; it's pretty horrible to think of that triumph and relief leading to such destruction.
Agreed! Days of Future Past is one of the best ever done! So many memorable scenes. Magneto saying, “All those years wasted fighting each other, Charles.”
To me, it's pretty clear that the 838 universe is just a separate universe from the FOX X-Men movies. They just used Patrick Stewart because he's great in the role. Also, Xavier using the same line in Doctor Strange 2 that the Xavier in Days of Future Past used is more akin to Defender Strange using the same "In the grand calculus of the multiverse..." line that 616 Strange used in No Way Home. It was also a fun nod/Easter egg, but very clearly not some major quote like "With great power..."
I'd always viewed Charles and Logan's exchange at the end of DoFP as Charles reading his mind and suddenly understanding all that Logan had been through.
The formation of alternate timelines is actually only possible by Endgame's time travel logic - where the existing timeline is not changed. Going by X-Men or Back to the Future logic, there are no alternate timelines, hence no TVA is going to be there. This also creates problem for Kang as it would limit what he can do. If he does something in the past, there are chances it might change the course of history and prevent his existence. But by alternate timeline logic, Kang has free reign to do anything he wants. No one can stop him by preventing him from existing. Because he will always have existed, no matter what you do. So I think that the MCU rules are better.
I mean one can argue that this was the plan all along when the Multiverse era commenced, right? There was enough tangible framework from the previous Fox and Sony movies to incorporate them into Marvel canon. I'd like to think so. It's only about how far they'd go creatively to bring it in.
One question that looms to me as well is that: is Dr. Strange using the Book ofthe Darkhold to beat Thanos not part of the 1,000,605 possibilities he's seen?
No, because the timeline was still written by Kang(He Who Remains) which is why there is only one possibility of winning. When the multiverse broke, possibilities became endless.
Is the book of vishanti not the dark Hold Remember that the dark hold is with sinister strange And defender strange and America sharvez is after the book of vishanti
I can’t believe you just said Days of Future Past handled time travel logic better than Endgame did. It was more ENTERTAINING for a movie, but Endgame was more LOGICAL. They based it off of real theories, whereas DOFP was based off of a more-traditional movie time travel logic.
I agree that Endgame's base time travel logic seems more feasible. Where they lost me is with the return the stones to the "moment they were taken" logic, as if that's going to correct or prevent something. There's no way Cap can return the stones without creating variant timelines. In just returning the mind stone to 2012, there's gonna be three Caps running around at the same time: One taking the stone, another one instantly giving it back and a third Cap stumbling around after losing a fight to himself and finding out Bucky's alive, with no clue about the mind stone stuff. If that's no biggie because at least the stones are back where they came from, fine. But either we're not supposed to care about the implications of screwing with the timeline, or the TVA is snipping those branches. In either case, bringing the stones back to their original timeline doesn't really solve anything.
@@batzxxl I personally take the "return them to the moment they were taken" as in immediately after, to prevent there being three versions of the same person. In that way the branches may expand but not more than they should. Plus, even if it's a little bit of a strech, the TVA did said everything the Avengers did was okay for the sacred timeline
@@fangirl_43 And that's fine if it's okay for the sacred timeline, but it just seems like the movie is saying "no harm, no foul" because Cap took the stones back when that's clearly not what's going to happen. There are major timeline implications to him bringing the stones back whether he does it a millisecond after they were taken, or waits around until no one's looking. lol
Actually no, it’s the same universe but different timeline so it’s not a variant of him, and the time traveling here is a fruit of a mutation (pryde’s gifts)
Erik needs to write a dissertation and give it to Disney. “The Mutant Problem in the MCU: How to successfully Integrate X-Men into Marvel Cinematic Continuity”
The timeline at the end of Days of Futures Past is the same timeline of Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. Charles remembers Logan because that’s the same Charles from the 70s, just older. I assume Logan would take place in that timeline as well. I believe the Professor X in MoM is a variant of the animated Professor X. I don’t think they would kill off the exact character from the series, considering it’s being revived.
Especially if it was the animated version then the X-Men would be near Charles and we would see all of them. They wouldn't be separated unless the future past in the 90 series actually happens because that's where it came from. Especially at the point Logan was the one and Bishop to stop that from happening through time travel. They don't know what they are doing
No, it’s not the same timeline. Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix is a different timeline than the end of DoFP. Dark Phoenix shows Prof. X retiring plus for all intents and purposes, Jean’s dead (I know but to in-universe characters) yet in DoFP, Jean’s alive and Prof. X is headmaster.
I mean if the itlsnt lost forever is a Charles thing he didn't do too well letting strange die you'd think he would have found a way to fix it with Reed or other sorcerer's
This channel is awesome!! I loved seeing Xavier’s circles appear when he was using his powers. Can you imagine if The Scarlet Witch solo films really happen?! It could be 838 Wanda dealing with the aftermath of DS2. IF and only IF our Scarlet witch did die then maybe 838 Wanda will take over the Scarlet witch mantle? I gave myself a headache. The thought of Famke’s Jean Grey facing off against Wanda 🔥
What if, Logan and 838 are branches from Days of Future Past. So maybe Days of Future Past was going to Logan, but when Kang died, a branch led to universe 838.
838 and 616 are identical in people’s features, names, identities so you cant have a 616 Aaron Taylor Johnson as Pietro Maximoff and Elizabeth Olsen’s twin brother then have Evan Peters as Peter Maximoff as Peter Maximoff. Some instances and fates may have differences between the two universes but not the identities. Hayley Atwell is Peggy Carter, Olsen is Wanda Maximoff, Cumberbatch is Strange on both universes. All is sealed.
Ive said since it came out essentially. That Logan takes place during the blip. Thanos in their universe won, and they were never able to undo it like the 1 in 14,000,605 chances in our 616 world.
I'm pretty sure there is an episode in x-men 92' where it shows wolverine and captain america working together in the 1940's or the 1950's so I don't think that this Charles Xavier from multiverse of madness is the same one from x-men 92' series
That's what I thought too. Even the ending to Apocalypse sets up Logan where those scientists retrieve the vial of Wolverine's blood from the freezer. It's how both Laura and X-24 were created.
@@loudboy317 that was essex corps that was not transigen from logan unless essex corps gave logans dna to transigen or essex changed their name to transigen i dont know
whatever universe 838 is, you have to account for "red means go" - and in days of future past I believe we can find some normal green means go traffic lights.
I would like to see there in 838 where Magneto would be so angry of what happened to Xavier that he would resort to use (if) his daughter Wanda to travel to the multiverse and avenge his friend but the Xmen would interfere and a great battle will start.
I love this idea and direction. Imagine, after 23 years if the original timeline of 838 was days of future past/Fox timeline!!! Fan service at its best!!!
Two big problems: 1) Dark Phoenix. 2) Trask fixating on mutants and ignoring other meta/enhanced humans like the Illuminati and Avengers -- and vice versa.
I think the Cosmic Wonder said that Earth 838’s Wanda’s father was Magento played by Micheal Fassbender. The Illumanti sought help or permission for him.
I say marvel should make series with the major universes they’ll be going to and give us “flashbacks” of how things went down in that universe like the corruption of 838 strange and the battle with thanos cause they ACTUALLY kill and other things they could have fun with would be dope
Spiderman no way home had the same dialog of uncle Ben saying " with great power comes great responsibility " so I think that many variants go through similar paths
I think its very unlikely cuz in 838 red means go and green means stop. This is definitely not the case in days of future past and i dont think society would just randomly change their stop and go signals.
I think since we had an alternate universe's Strange say the same line as 616 Strange at the beginning of the film, it's safe to assume that it was a different timeline from the X-Men films
No, because X-Men Days Of Future Past Future Timeline is Earth-TRN414 and Earth-838 is MUCH different. Plus why would we want that variant of Professor X seen at the end of Days Of Future Past to end up just being the variant that gets killed when revisited. That's incredibly bleak.
They’re both wearing green suits. I think the McAvoy Charles IS the Charles at the end of DOFP. And I think the Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix X-men ARE the 90s X-men in live action AND 838. I think the 838 universe is the animated universe just in live action, given that the old animated shows crossed over too. So the Illuminati featuring Reed and Charles would make sense.
I did always find it coincidental that the happy ending of DoFP and the final battle in Endgame both happened in 2023. Also when I heard Patrick Stewart say quote, I immediately thought of DoFP and made the 2023 connection.
Days of Future Past ends in the Avengerverse. We are in 2025 now, logan is set in 2029. X-Men went into hiding to prevent a war. Is how I've set it out anyway.
I feel like they want to make 838 the universe where all those fox marvel properties coexist with mcu characters and 616 is mcu exclusively. Maybe secret wars will mash the two
And if they try to bring in the previous X-Men then they should atleast say that, ''Okay, you are living in a timeline without the Sentinels but the previous timeline was not erased. Time travel does not work that way. This is an alternate timeline. In the old one, mutants are gone & Sentinels are still roaming.''
It’s really powerful he should’ve been able to control wonder he is really powerful they keep limiting the X-Men’s powers especially cyclops rogue of them
838 still has a Time Stone. All the heros deaths can be locally undone (similar to what Strange did with the apple and Thanos did with Vision). Now, getting 838 Mordo to actually do it... Who knows.
I was hoping this movie to have connection with Logan movie. My thought is Wanda corrupts inside Professor X's mind and kills all the mutants as mentioned in Logan.
I didnt like that wanda was easily able to beat the illuminati like it was nothing. Charles was the leader of the xmen. Think how badass wolverine was. Knowing wanda can beat them so easily takes away from all of them now
Wanda is literally the Scarlet Witch mate, supposed to the even stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme. The lazy writing of the movie made the characters dismiss a threat so obviously high. Come on now, Mordo-838 (and Doctor Strange-838) should've been aware of this fact, considering Strange read the Darkhold.
Even if Logan is in the 838 universe with MoM and Days of Future Past, Xavier could’ve come back through that twin’s body that he used in The Last Stand, as those events never occurred
The only problem I have is that Logan is such a great movie to end the mark of Hugh Jackman's role as Wolverine, bringing him back will such a disgrace for Hollywood it is like bringing RDJ back in MCU
616 Wanda was born in 1989 in MCU and Peter Maximoff in DoFP was a 70s or 80s teenager. So unless they are different variants but 838 has established that both then and 616 are identical
Its also probably the same universe that Logan takes place in the future with references to their past events and even their past costumes put into comics telling the story of the X-Men and the past but showing us what happens to Logan at a future date
I'm still a lil bit confused by their multiverse logic though. We know how much the MCU (applying branched timelines/nexus events when something's rewritten) is obviously different to Fox's X-men (where if something's changed, the future can be averted instead of branching out). So how come the Fox's timeline can possibly coincide with the MCU knowing their logic are totally opposed?
We know Wolverine served in world war 2 so it's possible that he served with Captain America during First Avenger. They could also be responsible for freeing Magneto and the other Jewish prisoners from the concentration camps. The Eternals are most likely present for Apocalypse's reign over ancient Egypt but were forbidden to interfere with human history. The "Pietro" in WandaVision knows everything about Wanda and how Vision died. He even has the other Pietro's powers too and he never flat out admitted that he wasn't really Pietro so that whole Ralph Bonner gag could be part of the hex Wanda created.
Deadpool isn't crazy. He can see through the multiverse. When he looks at and talks to camera he's talking to our universe. That's why he knows the actors.
And the characters timelines too.
Deadpool is a nexus being.
He is both crazy and aware he's in a comic. They are not mutually exclusive.
I just a deadpool moive
@Mr.Fantastic there's a story of DP going on a murder spree, it's dumb but fun
yes he is crazy he talks to himself and hears voices of course hes crazy lmao
Surprised nobody has considered seeing Fantastic 4, Inhumans, or Xmen in the next season of What If?. Wouldn't that be such an easy way to explain so much without having to spend so much?
I don’t think they would have all those in What If season 2 until they are introduced in the 616 universe. Which Fantastic Four might be before What If comes out. X-men and Injumans would have to wait. Maybe a what if season 3 if they make one
I'd like to see Eternals.. that movie went under the radar imo.. very human experience.
I hope we see a trickle of them at the very least. They can save the big guns for the movies and still seed them into the general tapestry.
wait theres gonna be a season 2 for what if?
@@cj9318 Yep!
Professor Charles Xavier: Just because someone stumbles and loses their way it doesn't mean they are lost forever. We all need a little help sometimes. I LOVE THESE WORDS. THEY MOTIVATE ME EVERYDAY.
One could say 838 Strange stumbled and lost his way.. then they killed him. So much for “doesn’t mean they’re lost forever, we all need a little help sometimes” 😂
@@derangedking117 i know it's a joke but it fits your name. Deranged.
Someone should make an official list of the greatest Comic Book lines of all time.
No they don't l9l
@@AcesPlace22 Actually they do hypocrite. But whatever you say.
I want a fight between Wanda and Jean.
I was thinking of that. Scarlett witch vs dark Phoenix.
@@freeamericanthinker558 I think Jean would take that win honestly. It's gonna be a good fight tho
Don't we all? That said, as a Wanda-stan and an Ororo-stan, I want those two to go off on each other during Avengers: Secret Wars or Avengers: Multiversal War, whichever they end up calling it.
I don't know?
YES
That would be an interesting move if Marvel Studios decided to tell the story between the end of Days of Future Past and Logan (2023-2029). By opening up the multiverse, the playing field has gotten much much larger.
I always believed that DoFPs "fixed" future and Logans future are in themselves branched paths, one set in the fox Xmen timeline and the other in the wolverine timeline (due to contradictions in the stories, like deadpool or how Logan got his adamantium skeleton) because frankly it would be horrific to think that Logan saved the future only for it to go an equally bad path anyway.
@@dstr001 Like one where Wolverine never went back into the past (Logan branch), and one where he did (Days of Future Past). Logan always felt like DoFP never happened.
@@mikelambsworld4368 I agree. And that's probably all an emotional reaction; it's pretty horrible to think of that triumph and relief leading to such destruction.
Days of Future Past is not just the best film in foX-Men franchise but also one of the best comic book movies ever made.
Agreed! Days of Future Past is one of the best ever done! So many memorable scenes. Magneto saying, “All those years wasted fighting each other, Charles.”
I agree
Agreed! I always imagine if they decided to pick up the story from when the movie ended.
The Rogue Cut, definitely
I absolutely agree BUT it doesn't work without the X-Men movies that came before it.
To me, it's pretty clear that the 838 universe is just a separate universe from the FOX X-Men movies. They just used Patrick Stewart because he's great in the role. Also, Xavier using the same line in Doctor Strange 2 that the Xavier in Days of Future Past used is more akin to Defender Strange using the same "In the grand calculus of the multiverse..." line that 616 Strange used in No Way Home. It was also a fun nod/Easter egg, but very clearly not some major quote like "With great power..."
Plus i had no idea that was even said in DOFP until someone pointed it out
Good catch, very similar to Dr. Strange and his variants quote along with Captain America's "I can do this all day" which Captain Carter also said.
@@TheAnthonyG.
This just feels like a case of "great minds think a like" especially if its the same mind.
In X3 he died and was mind hoppin before the dream walk deal was ever established, so who knows what shit he pulls
@@anthonyjns his probably still alive and just went into his twins body like in last stand
I'd always viewed Charles and Logan's exchange at the end of DoFP as Charles reading his mind and suddenly understanding all that Logan had been through.
That's a more reasonable explanation than what he said in the videos.
Earth-838 is an awesome place. Mutants, Inhumans, Avengers, illuminati, F4, X-men & Brotherhood of Mutants in it. hot damn.
The formation of alternate timelines is actually only possible by Endgame's time travel logic - where the existing timeline is not changed. Going by X-Men or Back to the Future logic, there are no alternate timelines, hence no TVA is going to be there. This also creates problem for Kang as it would limit what he can do. If he does something in the past, there are chances it might change the course of history and prevent his existence. But by alternate timeline logic, Kang has free reign to do anything he wants. No one can stop him by preventing him from existing. Because he will always have existed, no matter what you do. So I think that the MCU rules are better.
Not everything is logic. Sometimes things are for fun.
I understood this. Why hasn't NASA hired either of us? Stupid space nerds.
@@CalebJacobs1981 did you just solo most human philosophy in fewer than 10 words?? Damn
@@CalebJacobs1981 Wow lol
@@dbfilms342 i am taking this as a compliment.
Now I hope an incursion with the 616 universe happens and we get to see the X-men again
I want to see both versions
Well get comfy cuz we won’t be seeing that till 2030!
616 is comics by the way.
@@introvert9490 616 is both the comics and the MCU now
That’s for sure but this time they will introduce Magik.
I mean one can argue that this was the plan all along when the Multiverse era commenced, right? There was enough tangible framework from the previous Fox and Sony movies to incorporate them into Marvel canon. I'd like to think so. It's only about how far they'd go creatively to bring it in.
One question that looms to me as well is that: is Dr. Strange using the Book ofthe Darkhold to beat Thanos not part of the 1,000,605 possibilities he's seen?
No, because the timeline was still written by Kang(He Who Remains) which is why there is only one possibility of winning. When the multiverse broke, possibilities became endless.
Maybe Strange had not looked into the multiverse, because he knew it is unreachable at that MCU timeline.
@@Theoryofcatsndogs yes. he only looked into the possibilities of the 616 MCU Universe.
@@Theoryofcatsndogs No the right explaination is that
Strange disnt go through enough realisties to see that
Kangs work doesnt effect like that
Is the book of vishanti not the dark Hold
Remember that the dark hold is with sinister strange
And defender strange and America sharvez is after the book of vishanti
I can’t believe you just said Days of Future Past handled time travel logic better than Endgame did. It was more ENTERTAINING for a movie, but Endgame was more LOGICAL. They based it off of real theories, whereas DOFP was based off of a more-traditional movie time travel logic.
I agree that Endgame's base time travel logic seems more feasible. Where they lost me is with the return the stones to the "moment they were taken" logic, as if that's going to correct or prevent something. There's no way Cap can return the stones without creating variant timelines. In just returning the mind stone to 2012, there's gonna be three Caps running around at the same time: One taking the stone, another one instantly giving it back and a third Cap stumbling around after losing a fight to himself and finding out Bucky's alive, with no clue about the mind stone stuff. If that's no biggie because at least the stones are back where they came from, fine. But either we're not supposed to care about the implications of screwing with the timeline, or the TVA is snipping those branches. In either case, bringing the stones back to their original timeline doesn't really solve anything.
@@batzxxl I personally take the "return them to the moment they were taken" as in immediately after, to prevent there being three versions of the same person. In that way the branches may expand but not more than they should. Plus, even if it's a little bit of a strech, the TVA did said everything the Avengers did was okay for the sacred timeline
@@fangirl_43 And that's fine if it's okay for the sacred timeline, but it just seems like the movie is saying "no harm, no foul" because Cap took the stones back when that's clearly not what's going to happen. There are major timeline implications to him bringing the stones back whether he does it a millisecond after they were taken, or waits around until no one's looking. lol
@@batzxxl Whatever you say bud, I just shared with you my personal view but it's okay if you don't agree 👍✌
@@fangirl_43 Same here. Just sharing thoughts. Your input was respected.
So basically Wolverine "DREAMWALK" in X-Men days of future past 🤯🤯
YO
Basically yeah
No.
@@intothefrayyo Bruh
Actually no, it’s the same universe but different timeline so it’s not a variant of him, and the time traveling here is a fruit of a mutation (pryde’s gifts)
Erik needs to write a dissertation and give it to Disney. “The Mutant Problem in the MCU: How to successfully Integrate X-Men into Marvel Cinematic Continuity”
The timeline at the end of Days of Futures Past is the same timeline of Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. Charles remembers Logan because that’s the same Charles from the 70s, just older. I assume Logan would take place in that timeline as well.
I believe the Professor X in MoM is a variant of the animated Professor X. I don’t think they would kill off the exact character from the series, considering it’s being revived.
I was thinking the same thing they wouldn’t kill a animated character thete bringing back
Especially if it was the animated version then the X-Men would be near Charles and we would see all of them. They wouldn't be separated unless the future past in the 90 series actually happens because that's where it came from. Especially at the point Logan was the one and Bishop to stop that from happening through time travel. They don't know what they are doing
No, it’s not the same timeline. Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix is a different timeline than the end of DoFP. Dark Phoenix shows Prof. X retiring plus for all intents and purposes, Jean’s dead (I know but to in-universe characters) yet in DoFP, Jean’s alive and Prof. X is headmaster.
@@Kokopelli711 please stop writing
@@eden20111 why?
I don't think it is the DOFP Universe. I think it's a universe similar to the 90s Animated Series.
I agree. If you listen to the score when Professor X enters the scene the horns briefly play the theme song from the 90’s animated series.
@@liamking9468 Yep, nice touch with the 90s theme.
I mean if the itlsnt lost forever is a Charles thing he didn't do too well letting strange die you'd think he would have found a way to fix it with Reed or other sorcerer's
This channel is awesome!! I loved seeing Xavier’s circles appear when he was using his powers. Can you imagine if The Scarlet Witch solo films really happen?! It could be 838 Wanda dealing with the aftermath of DS2. IF and only IF our Scarlet witch did die then maybe 838 Wanda will take over the Scarlet witch mantle? I gave myself a headache. The thought of Famke’s Jean Grey facing off against Wanda 🔥
What if, Logan and 838 are branches from Days of Future Past. So maybe Days of Future Past was going to Logan, but when Kang died, a branch led to universe 838.
838 and 616 are identical in people’s features, names, identities so you cant have a 616 Aaron Taylor Johnson as Pietro Maximoff and Elizabeth Olsen’s twin brother then have Evan Peters as Peter Maximoff as Peter Maximoff.
Some instances and fates may have differences between the two universes but not the identities. Hayley Atwell is Peggy Carter, Olsen is Wanda Maximoff, Cumberbatch is Strange on both universes. All is sealed.
Exactly
“So…where the shit do *I* fit into this??”-Deadpool, staring at his Mint Mobile phone, just now.
Ive said since it came out essentially. That Logan takes place during the blip. Thanos in their universe won, and they were never able to undo it like the 1 in 14,000,605 chances in our 616 world.
I like to think he's from the 90s Animated series 🤷🏾♂️
I'm pretty sure there is an episode in x-men 92' where it shows wolverine and captain america working together in the 1940's or the 1950's so I don't think that this Charles Xavier from multiverse of madness is the same one from x-men 92' series
I always thought Logan takes place after the ending of days of future past, when Logan goes back to see he saved everyone in that peaceful future.
It did. Nobody knows what they talking about because the 616 is not the MCU. The MCU is 19999
That's what I thought too. Even the ending to Apocalypse sets up Logan where those scientists retrieve the vial of Wolverine's blood from the freezer. It's how both Laura and X-24 were created.
@@loudboy317 that was essex corps that was not transigen from logan unless essex corps gave logans dna to transigen or essex changed their name to transigen i dont know
@@bdb7185 616 is MCU. You watch Dr Strange?
@@AndrewClare 616 was always the mainstream Marvel comic universe
Now they've changed it so the MCU (Earth-19999) is actually 616?
whatever universe 838 is, you have to account for "red means go" - and in days of future past I believe we can find some normal green means go traffic lights.
Good point!!
I would like to see there in 838 where Magneto would be so angry of what happened to Xavier that he would resort to use (if) his daughter Wanda to travel to the multiverse and avenge his friend but the Xmen would interfere and a great battle will start.
I love this idea and direction. Imagine, after 23 years if the original timeline of 838 was days of future past/Fox timeline!!! Fan service at its best!!!
Two big problems: 1) Dark Phoenix. 2) Trask fixating on mutants and ignoring other meta/enhanced humans like the Illuminati and Avengers -- and vice versa.
I think the Cosmic Wonder said that Earth 838’s Wanda’s father was Magento played by Micheal Fassbender. The Illumanti sought help or permission for him.
I say marvel should make series with the major universes they’ll be going to and give us “flashbacks” of how things went down in that universe like the corruption of 838 strange and the battle with thanos cause they ACTUALLY kill and other things they could have fun with would be dope
It would have been amazing to see Magneto in Dr Strange in The Multiverse of Madness
I need Scarlet Witch to meet Jean Grey! :-)
I want rogue to meet captain marvel
Yes
@@clintbrew yessss
Spiderman no way home had the same dialog of uncle Ben saying " with great power comes great responsibility " so I think that many variants go through similar paths
@whatsappme2070 lmao
Imagine being done with a role not knowing a few years later turned mcu would have such potential for your retired role
I never noticed the Charles at the end of days of future past was wearing a green suit
I think its very unlikely cuz in 838 red means go and green means stop. This is definitely not the case in days of future past and i dont think society would just randomly change their stop and go signals.
I think since we had an alternate universe's Strange say the same line as 616 Strange at the beginning of the film, it's safe to assume that it was a different timeline from the X-Men films
Yes. This is EXACTLY what Im expecting
Would make since since in Wandavision they had the actor even peters from days of future past so would make since for it to be connected
Ik we usually talk about marvel, but I just want to appreciate how much time he puts into his promos
X-Men: DOFP is top 10 superhero adaptations in my opinion. And seeing all of the MCU films it does kind of connect and would make sense to do so.
No, because X-Men Days Of Future Past Future Timeline is Earth-TRN414 and Earth-838 is MUCH different. Plus why would we want that variant of Professor X seen at the end of Days Of Future Past to end up just being the variant that gets killed when revisited. That's incredibly bleak.
I fanboyed when he said that line, because I immediately remembered it from dofp
Can someone draw up a timeline tracking this. Its amazing
They’re both wearing green suits. I think the McAvoy Charles IS the Charles at the end of DOFP. And I think the Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix X-men ARE the 90s X-men in live action AND 838. I think the 838 universe is the animated universe just in live action, given that the old animated shows crossed over too. So the Illuminati featuring Reed and Charles would make sense.
Kitty Pride helped Wolverine DreamWalk!!!
I did always find it coincidental that the happy ending of DoFP and the final battle in Endgame both happened in 2023. Also when I heard Patrick Stewart say quote, I immediately thought of DoFP and made the 2023 connection.
Days of Future Past ends in the Avengerverse. We are in 2025 now, logan is set in 2029. X-Men went into hiding to prevent a war.
Is how I've set it out anyway.
my favorite part of analysings multiverse of madness was how i stayed hydrated
too smooth
When that quote comes up I get chills every time even though it ain’t as big as Spider-Man’s responsibility quote
Can we please have a chip and dale analysis? I’m literally begging that movie was a treasure trove
Please cover the Easter eggs in Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. That movie had tons of references. Great movie
Im telling ya, Days of future past set MoM perfectly to continue from that timeline.
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The entirety of this video has been going through my head since I watched MoM.
9:42 *"I'm not your Daddy, I'm your Grandpa!"*
It will be a dream come true if sir Ian McKellen once again takes the role of Magneto in the MCU and this time being Wanda's Dad. It wud be awesome. 👌
I dare you to try to break down Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers 🐿🐿
I feel like they want to make 838 the universe where all those fox marvel properties coexist with mcu characters and 616 is mcu exclusively. Maybe secret wars will mash the two
And if they try to bring in the previous X-Men then they should atleast say that, ''Okay, you are living in a timeline without the Sentinels but the previous timeline was not erased. Time travel does not work that way. This is an alternate timeline. In the old one, mutants are gone & Sentinels are still roaming.''
90s animated x men was one of my favorite cartoons when I was a kid, good memories
If avengers vs x men got announced I’d pass out walking into the cinema
9:40 yeah that has wild implications based on the previous interview 😂
These what if episodes are going to start getting wild with season 2
X-Men Days of Future Past will almost be my favorite X-Men film
The alternet timeline at the end of days of future past saved everyone but mystique didn't survive to 2023
When he started to say that line in the theater, I said it so loud I got a noise complaint
It’s really powerful he should’ve been able to control wonder he is really powerful they keep limiting the X-Men’s powers especially cyclops rogue of them
All the x men films are brilliant. They're what got me in to comic book characters.
Imagine if the first time we get an Xmen line up is for Avengers vs Xmen.
838 still has a Time Stone. All the heros deaths can be locally undone (similar to what Strange did with the apple and Thanos did with Vision). Now, getting 838 Mordo to actually do it... Who knows.
Strange also did it with Wong when Wong got killed by Kaecilius
Best way to tell
Did people walk at red? haha
I feel like the Fantastic Four or The Avengers would have come up at some point during Days of Future Past
I was hoping this movie to have connection with Logan movie. My thought is Wanda corrupts inside Professor X's mind and kills all the mutants as mentioned in Logan.
Ghost rider supposed to be in the movie, mordo 616, magneto actually Wanda's father in other universe
I mean it's 40mins got cut
Sir Ian shooting his shot lol
I agree with everything you said about the days of future past .
It could also meanbthe same event from Days pf Future Past also played out in Earth 838 counterpart.
I didnt like that wanda was easily able to beat the illuminati like it was nothing. Charles was the leader of the xmen. Think how badass wolverine was. Knowing wanda can beat them so easily takes away from all of them now
Wanda is literally the Scarlet Witch mate, supposed to the even stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme. The lazy writing of the movie made the characters dismiss a threat so obviously high. Come on now, Mordo-838 (and Doctor Strange-838) should've been aware of this fact, considering Strange read the Darkhold.
Yes bring them all back
I just remembered that The Fantastic 4 does exist in the FOX X-Men Universe, due to Franklin and Valeria Richards's names appearing on a computer.
Even if Logan is in the 838 universe with MoM and Days of Future Past, Xavier could’ve come back through that twin’s body that he used in The Last Stand, as those events never occurred
How have you not done a Easter egg video on chip and dale
The only problem I have is that Logan is such a great movie to end the mark of Hugh Jackman's role as Wolverine, bringing him back will such a disgrace for Hollywood it is like bringing RDJ back in MCU
Marvel will bring him back without a second thought
@@manassesnascimento4483 i hope not
When he shows up I the Illuminati scene you can hear the 90’ Xmen animated series jingle woven into the movie 🎵🎶
6:20 “Morty McFly”, I like that one 😂
Days of Future Past is probably the best and the most underrated X-Men movies
616 Wanda was born in 1989 in MCU and Peter Maximoff in DoFP was a 70s or 80s teenager. So unless they are different variants but 838 has established that both then and 616 are identical
I was born in summer 1973...it seems to be summer time in Days of Future past when Logan is back in time .
i just hope the remaining heroes of 838 would wage war against 616/199999 🔥
If I remember correctly in the X-men timeline with Evan Peters he has a sister but a younger sister so that cannot be MoM Wanda
I think it would great if the EARTH-383 Realm is the same place as the (X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST) movie’s realm.
GFUEL lets go! Love to see it!
I still don't get how the MCU is 616 now. What is the book continuity then?
Its also probably the same universe that Logan takes place in the future with references to their past events and even their past costumes put into comics telling the story of the X-Men and the past but showing us what happens to Logan at a future date
I'm still a lil bit confused by their multiverse logic though. We know how much the MCU (applying branched timelines/nexus events when something's rewritten) is obviously different to Fox's X-men (where if something's changed, the future can be averted instead of branching out). So how come the Fox's timeline can possibly coincide with the MCU knowing their logic are totally opposed?
We know Wolverine served in world war 2 so it's possible that he served with Captain America during First Avenger. They could also be responsible for freeing Magneto and the other Jewish prisoners from the concentration camps.
The Eternals are most likely present for Apocalypse's reign over ancient Egypt but were forbidden to interfere with human history.
The "Pietro" in WandaVision knows everything about Wanda and how Vision died. He even has the other Pietro's powers too and he never flat out admitted that he wasn't really Pietro so that whole Ralph Bonner gag could be part of the hex Wanda created.
I bet Hugh Jackman will be returning in a Secret Wars movie.
I think the Morbius shaker cup was cooler
You guys should look in to do the chip an Dale movie as well, loads of easter eggs might be fun?