Waitangi - What Really Happened: Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 เม.ย. 2011
- The Treaty Of Waitangi must be the most sacred, revered and talked about document in New Zealand history.
Busby, Colenso and others, take Hobson's brief and knock together the Treaty. It is then passed on to Henry Williams and his son, Edward who work on the Maori translation.
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Written by Gavin Strawhan ( This Is Not My Life, Go Girls ), with novelist Witi Ihimaera as story consultant, Waitangi: What Really Happened is an entertaining, colourful docu-drama about the days leading up to and including the signing of the treaty, revealing the incredible story and the characters behind the treaty's creation. The premise of the show involves time travelling a reporter to 1840, where he finds a host of colourful characters all playing a vital role in what later became Kiwi history.
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It's awesome how they got this into script and actually got others to act it out... Flawless
Who else is watching this for school work?
Anyone from Auckland here? If so, Sup!
Kia ora - FireFox21640986
@Josaia Bavou Why they didn't do anything :/
@Josaia Bavou No u
@Josaia Bavou sup saia
This was amazing and I enjoyed every second. The way they did it was exceptional and stunning
5:47 sound so good
Kia upokokohua e te tiriti a Waitangi, Kia mate mo taku tipuna. kia mate nga uri o nga minita o te karaone o te Pakeha
Turn on captions at 1:20
Why Hone Heke was never asked to help them in the translation (for Maori equivalent term)? It seems that Hone Heke knew English better than other Chiefs.
+Paul Whelmer Alforque He did which is why he ended up causing a whole heap of trouble for the British because he finally realized their cruel intentions
thats what said
thats what i said typo
Oi THIS IS AWESOME :D
I thought so too :)
farr i love this way of story telling its mean as
This is what happened...Missionary Henry Williams and his son Edward, both of European descent were given the task of drafting the treaty, because they knew the Māori language. But my question? Did they understand Maori?? Did they understand the infinitive dimension of Maori language, Example: the word MAURI is dimensional , does not have a single definition. Therefore, Why should there have been two NON-MAORI, be given the right to translate for Maori! e.g. "It's like a Hindu trying to teach the HAKA to Maori"
That fulla selling the heads spent to much time at KFC
CRACK ME UP :) MEANNN ASSSS BRO
It's pretty clear that Royal Courtier hasn't read the treaty - at least the actual one that was signed by Hobson and the rangatira ie the Maori language version. Maori never agreed to British sovereignty and in fact were affirmed in their chieftainship over their own lands and people
Hariata's a riot.
Did Paul Moon have a say in the production in this? He stays remarkably neutral when he discusses history!
I'd be right to turn off the English language captions @totaljk. To avoid confusion/misinterpretation
The NZ company doesn't get involved until Sept 1840.
I feel sad for how Western went all around the world to vanish the native of all the territories they arrived on rather than work with them in their terms....What happens today goes way back, that was evil act and they said they were teachers of Gospel and wisdom
omg
Every subtitles when they speak te reo us wrong wrong wrong
St. Peter’s anyone
4 :55
Thank you so much for sharing with me this fragment of history.
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“He is making wars to cease to the extremity of the earth.”
Jehovah God will accomplish true peace by means of his Kingdom, for which many sincere people have repeatedly prayed Matthew 6:9, 10:
"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth."
His Kingdom is not an elusive condition of the heart; it is a real government through which God will establish peace from one end of the earth to the other. The inspired prophet Isaiah foretold that subjects of that government will not “learn war anymore.” (Isaiah 2:4) By means of a worldwide educational program, people will learn to live in peace and thus “beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears.”
The Treaty was not translated to the 'word' as it was written by Busby, Williams left out mana which in english translates to sovereignty, had mana been included in the mis-translated version no Maori would have signed, some say he done this due to his personal interests in securing Maori land. Not long after the signing Williams put in a claim for 20,000 acres? Hobson was not a man of law so the reality is the British F--ked up by leaving such an important agreement to the wrong person.
1:16 dat face
Aragorn *That
Benjamin Lee no, I'm a normal person.
@jenniearcheo a woman of few words, hard to come by these days! just kidding :P she's a great actress!
nz forever
hello
Actually pretty good i thought this was going to be bulllshit
hhhhoooorrrssseee sssshhheetttt
im samoan
irrelavant
See how evil history had made out of them....ruin life of the innocent.
no wonder maori fought againest this when it was only really going to benefit the english
duh, what do think? We burnt the treaty for no reason?
Woah, I completely forgot that I made A comment here
Ppl who r watching this for homework
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There was no goal to have Maori cede sovereignty. The sovereignty issue was to bring law & order to the lawless Europeans. Maori were welcome to become British residents and gain protection.
whats in it for me Heke
Capitalism?
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At the time of the first Europeans, Maori were a Stone Age people, they had raped the land and were a dying race. Constant inter-tribal wars, brutal slaughter, ritual sacrifice, slavery, cannibalism, female infanticide, slash and burn agriculture and starvation had flattened the population out to 115,000 with Maori living short life spans (25yrs). Leading up to 1840 Maori went on to slaughter 1/3 of their own population in just 40 years. So anxious were the Maori they sent pleas to the British for help who were considered more humane than the French who were only weeks behind colonization and who had not forgotten the brutal killing and cannibalism of French explorer Marion du Fresne and members of his crew in 1772. The rule of British law or the French guillotine! An easy choice. Captain William Hobson Royal Navy along with several other British appointees were instructed to format The Treaty with great care to ensure that the document was expressed in simple terms using words which had close Maori equivalents. The document was then translated into Maori by Henry Williams and his 21 year old son Edward. Henry was head of the Mission and a former naval officer and had arrived 17 years previously with his family when Edward was 4 years old. Edward was therefore a native speaker of the Ngapuhi dialect of Maori which was in continual use at the Mission and consequently both men were very competent to do the task so there can be no misunderstanding about wording or translation. Instructions were "not to allow anyone to sign the treaty unless fully understood so there can be no doubt" The treaty was presented at Busby's house in Waitangi. Then followed a lengthy discussion with arguments for and against the treaty. No amendments were suggested. The Maori chiefs retired to Tii marae to discuss among themselves and Williams went with them. The discussion was expected to take several days but the chiefs arrived back the next day with 45 ready to sign. Hone Heke signed first and after each one signed Hobson shook his hand and said in Maori "we are one people now" The total official tally is 540 signatures, Te Rauparaha signed twice. The Treaty quite simply saved the Maori race from total annihilation. It imposed the rule of law and order, allowing safe colonization and control over the sale of land which was sold fairly at the market rates at the time. Some land was confiscated but this was in response to Maori rebellion and in violation of the Treaty. In 1840 the Maori concept of ownership was based not on right but by conquest. The word taonga does not mean treasure it means "taken by the spear". There are no principles to the Treaty save one "We are one people" and there is no "partnership between the Crown and Maori people". The British did not go in for "partnership" agreements with Stone Age chiefs who had been unable to bring peace and order to their own lands. These are modern inventions. Lies from both politicians and officialdom, media manipulation and fraud is what the Treaty industry is based on. When the Crown settles a Treaty claim it does not come from some magical hoard of gold and jewels which her Majesty has hidden away in some castle, no it is money from tax payers given to someone demanding compensation for supposed historical wrongs and perpetual privilege in the future who are 5th and 6th generation decedents of mixed blood not in the sense Maori at all but with the multi-million dollars riches only going to the minority privileged elite riding the gravy train. Quite simply the biggest swindle in New Zealand history.
you don't know what the hell your talking about. you have no idea who as people race and culture who we really are. you seem intelligent but in this case shut the fuckn up
@@thomashaereiti3093 I do know what I am talking about. I have researched the topic for the past 6 months, I have read books, researched the internet, I
do know the real truth and the modern racist conspiracy behind the rot of
Maoridom
@@zardosspinosa6944 u don't know shit till u hear it from the chiefs mouth bitch
Dominic Sorry dude Maori's were in the stone age when European's arrived. They had no concept of the wheel, instead using logs to move their Waka across land, it's all there in the history books recorded by observation as well as straight from the Chieftain's themselves. Doesn't mean Maori's were stupid, a lot of them were very clever and ingenious, just too isolated for the sharing of technology to take place between cultures.
@@funtimesatbeaverfalls true we were in Stone age but we were the fastest adapting cultures in the world
Is this a comedy.
Uhhh no its not A comedy its non-fiction... not sure your thinking
awi read the tittle, its telling A story
Maoris are mixed lol no more pure. Maheuheu
+orlando kaufusi Excuse you. I'm as pure as they come.
Not ℅100 Maori.
Not all Māori just my family.
there is no s in maori
My grandmother is full blooded Maori.. not an ounce of pakeha in her whakapapa whatsoever.. 89 and still alive,