@@Kelly-qv3wg Watched the Staircase, must be a decade ago-roughly when TV show Lost was released- VERY credibly explain ALL the blood + David Rudolph, he will get off. Blood was not explained. At all, really. Was a tall order. The daughters (all three) suffered doubly & am sad for them. Fine women.
@Rufus Lloyd I slipped in my bathroom and hit my head on the door frame. I've never bled that much, is was all over the floor and my jacket got saturated. So yes, you can.
For those laughing at the owl theory it is the only theory that really fits EVERYTHING. She is outside drinking wine either Mike, has taken a Valium. She leaves to go inside. Just before the door the owl swoops and both talons make deep cuts in her scalp, but she quickly wrestles it off (There are photos online with people needing hundreds of stitches for this). This explains the pine needles and feather remnants found on her hands, as well as blood drops on walkway and door and other kniks and scratches. She likely doesn’t realize the extent of her injury immediately but realizes she is starting to bleed so she runs inside and the blood really starts to pour as she heads up the stairs. Perhaps she gets dizzy, blood runs into her eyes or in her haste she trips and falls backward down the stairs and hits her head. Now disoriented or briefly looses consciousness the blood really starts to flow. She coughs, sputters, tries to get up falls again or looses consciousness and continues to bleed without someone to provide pressure. Mike comes in after some time. Blood is drying and she is almost dead. Of course he runs to her, tries to arouse her, steps all over everything as you would, gets towels etc. I’m telling you, it’s what happened. A fall alone doesn’t make any sense with those gashes. Neither does a human attack with no bruising or brain trauma. They are lacerations fromsharp gallons and the pattern fits.
Let me put it this way, in order to buy and swallow this "owl did it" shit, you would have to buy and swallow another piece of shit: The owl also got into Michael Peterson's shoe, stumped on Kathleen, left a bloody shoeprint on her sweatpants.
Thank you, also.. maybe this is a silly comment, but why would he "bludgeon" her in the house unprovoked, and then just leave her there. That does not make sense. There are many ways to hurt someone. Why would he do it like this?
i think towards the end even he knew the man was guilty. Thats why he was told to take the plea....No lawyer will ask his client ...his innocent client to plead guilty under any plea unless there is reasonable doubt. Thats what it was . he was guilty but they didnt have all the facts to prove him above and beyond.
jessie james are you talking about Michael Peterson because he never pleaded guilty. And he maintains he still thinks he’s innocent. You can tell he thinks that.
He put his heart and soul and blood sweat and tears in this case. He cared. He is absolutely brilliant! Genuine man. God bless him. He is so handsome as well. ❤
Whether you think Michael Peterson is guilty or not, David is a straight G! OG Triple OG. We be need more stand up lawyers like him in America, because the justice system is so unfair. Everyone knows the prosecutors have access, resources, and the ability to generally do whatever they see fit. All the while the defendant is limited and constantly restricted. IMO I don’t know if Michael Peterson is guilty or not, but he’s a definitely an extremely weird person. He was very strange. And I think the series the staircase actually made him seem even more weird to me. The forensic files episode of it was too cut and dry. Freda Black and Duane Devers are both scumbags and that’s the only reason I think their is so much doubt surrounding this. At least for myself. Even before the OWL theory came out I was thinking both of those prosecutors were grimey. Freda looking like Cruella Deville, with her strong southern accent would have made me shit my pants if I was a defendant. I guess that’s a compliment to her, cuz she was scary as shit! Lol
Superb interview I’m from wicklow and now live in Nashville . I have had corespondents with David. While I am not involved in Law in my capacity to help others in my work I found him to be a great example of fighting for the rights of others. Thank you for this interview . Aaron
The shitty part is that to merely defend yourself in court, you need to pretty much start your own company and have a team of lawyers that cost 1 million dollars....even if youre innocent. And if youre guilty, you can afford to be acquitted...if not, you go to a jail for the poor.
its really unfair the prosecution gets to spend whatever they want, millions to prosecute you and only the rich can afford to defend themselves...it should be a bit more fair as to what you can do
Ron had an amazing personality and was a huge factor in helping Mike get out. These two, had me laughing quite a bit in such a serious Series. Rip good Sir.
He was the best!! One of my favorite parts in the entire documentary is when Ron got on the stand and ripped Deaver's claims to shreds!! RiP to Ron, a real man!!
I don't know about that... He failed to keep him out of prison the first time around & the main reason Michael Peterson is out is because of a review ordered by AG Roy Cooper of all cases involving the discredited forensic splatter blood investigator Duane Deaver. As far as I'm aware, he (David Rudolf) wasn't working diligently on appeals after his conviction & when he did get involved pro bono he later dropped Peterson stating he could afford to rep. him any longer without getting paid & finally rep. Peterson once again after a mutual agreement. In the end, he's involved in getting a guy out of jail that pleads guilty (Alford plea) & somehow PPL chose to believe an owl did it... Blood on the ceiling - Elizabeth Ratliff in Germany. I believe he's currently working on a book, maybe it'll be like OJ's 'If I did it'
Dave Rudolph is the Man But Jose Baez would of got him off in the 1st trial and probably no Alfred Plea in the 2nd. He is the Baddest out there. He got Casey Anthony off and Aaron Hernandez off of A Double Murder. Baez made Johnnie Cochran look like a racist Jew !
True. It takes a good attorney to get an innocent man out of jail, but a great one to free a guilty one -- provided the resources are abundant. Once the money runs out, you get stuck with an Alford plea. Bravo for a job well but not perfectly done.
Peterson belongs in prison. Look up Todd Peterson's recent video about his father allowing his mother to die from a heart attack after she babysat him and gave him a place to live when he couldn't find anyone else to take him in.
The owl theory is the only one that makes perfect sense. You can actually see the talon marks on the back of Kathleen’s head. It’s a shame that the neighbour who knew that there were barred owls in the trees surrounding the property didn’t come forward initially. Had he given evidence at the time , this whole case could have been solved. The fact is that the police despised Michael because of the scathing articles he had written about them. They were determined to frame him for his wife’s death. Michael is indeed a strange character but he’s not a murderer. Beware of cute looking , cuddly owls. If they feel their young are in any danger they , like most wild creatures, will savagely attack. Kathleen had gone into the front yard to place two wooden Christmas reindeer there. It’s possible that the owls saw these reindeer as a threat and instinctively attacked her. Owl attacks are a lot more common than people think
I believe the owl theory.i was attacked by an owl in my early 20s at a bonfire. I was just sitting there and it started swooping down at me. It got the top of my head once then all the men started swinging chairs and sticks at it. Even with them doing that it tried to attack me relentlessly. Idk what would have happened had I been alone.the cut on my scalp was deep, bled badly, and was shaped exactly like hers. Their talons are like razors
Rudolf is right about the constant excuses for politicians behaving badly. The kind of people excusing every sex or racism scandal surrounding Donald Trump are often the same conservative types who would position themselves as moral crusaders against anything harmful to "Christian, family values." Nothing means anything to people anymore, they just want to be on the winning side.
Wow you certainly have a blindside. When you argue something do you consider that the other side can say the same thing about you or do you just blurt it out.
tons of reasonable doubt... I don't believe he did it. But even if he did do it , it wasn't proved. It needs to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt... What the hell is wrong with the system?
Liked the interview quite a lot. Both the interviewer and the interviewee were great, in my opinion. I feel David is a terrific lawyer/professional! You could almost feel his passion for what he does. First time I see Michael and his interviews and gonna watch some more. Really liked his style and the way he conducted the interview. Asking good questions and letting his guest tell it all.
Lenita A How lost are you? This was an interview with David. And to challenge him? He's a lawyer, this was based of when he was Michael's lawyer. How much do you think he can tell, other than what he has already put out in court? If he asked anything else to 'challenge ' him as you say, this interview would've been all "no comment." 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I could literally listen to Mr. Rudolf read pages from the phone book and still find it interesting. Such a well spoken, thoughtful word choosing, and deliberate individual.
I've only recently caught up with the case, the TV documentary series and... the owl theory. The latter has blown my mind. It’s so plausible, and so terrible.
Regardless of what your opinion is about the case, this lawyer was amazing. I’m sad to hear the PI who helped the case so much has passed. He was another person who did an amazing job.
What nobody mentions is at the end of the Netflix documentary, the judge says he made a mistake by having the homosexual evidence and his ex-wife death to be permitted because that was "very very prejudicial". Also, he said he thought "he could have had a reasonable doubt ". Means he was not guilty!!
Also that he admitted he was lying for years about Kathleen knowing. The Alford plea allows for the state to save face, and of course the fact that he can’t sue them
Great work! Congratulations on your success, your tour, your connection with Michael. All fantastic stuff! Question for David Rudolf: How do you enjoy the wealth and the fame that you acquired defending a guilty man who brutally killed his wife?
Cool. Thanks for sharing your opinion. There simply wasn't enough evidence that Michael killed Kathleen. There is a lot of evidence that suggests she was attacked by an owl and bled to death after falling on the stair. We'll just never know for certain what happened, though. If you watched the Staircase you'd know that David did a lot of pro bono work for Michael when he could no longer afford to pay attorney fees because he truly believed Michael was innocent. That speaks volumes for his character if you ask me
This is RIDICULOUS! I think the original defense ( and “expert” testimony from Henry Lee) makes the most sense. She fell UP 3 steps, then down 3, then back UP 3, then down again. Then she stood up and slipped back down again. Then, she did the hokey, pokey but instead of turning herself around, guess what? She fell UP 2-3 steps again. Because so many people die annually from repeatedly falling UP and down the same 2-4 steps. The defense made $800,000 to come up with that testimony yet my 7 year old could’ve come up with it ( and the owl theory) for an ice cream cone.
Then she saw her head was cut and used her finger to flick blood 9 feet into the air against the wall. After that, she played dead and when Peterson approached her, she flicked more blood onto his inner shorts seam. Shes a flicker for sure.
I mean, come on..the guy did it. There is no mystery here. There just isnt enough evidence to convict him. You need a murder weapon at LEAST. Bloody clothes would help too. Where would he get rid of them? Convince me that he left his house if you want my conviction. Yes, he probably did it. But we dont convict people on probably in this country.
@@Scorch428well they did convict him. So the blood was dry when the emts got there so you can probably use your imagination to see what he did with his clothes
If you watch the documentary, you can really tell that David could not care less if Peterson did it or not, lol...thats how lawyers are...its not whether you did it, its what you can prove in court.
Her family obviously thinks differently but your right many lawyer get people off who are guilty and many in prison who are not. I in fact think he did it if he did he git off lightly he soon admitted it to get out of jail
Fantastic interview with great questions. I have to say that I really appreciate you asking those last few questions. And as much as I loved David before, I love him 10 times more now that I know his views on Trump
I only watched the whole The Staircase documentary because this lawyer is so brilliant and interesting to listen to. They should make a documentary just about him working his cases
Dude it's one thing having your wife coincidentally attacked and killed by an Owl at the bottom of your stairs. It's another thing having another woman in your life where YOU were the last one in contact with, also killed from head injury and also at the bottom of the stairs. David Rudolf is just good at playing the legal game - if the prosecutors had an equally-capable lawyer Michael would still be in jail.
Everyone likes to play this oh dead at the bottom of the stairs twice thing, but stairs are a common place for people to traverse day to day. If the two women had died in a car accident nobody would have said anything. These things just happen in life. And both women died in completely different ways. With Ratliffe there was no blood, and she was declared as having a stroke by a neurologist. That has nothing to do with Kathleen's death, which showed lacerations on her skull. So did he kill them both two different ways but stage both as a staircase accident? Why would he choose a staircase both times?
I think he represented Peterson very well. What a job he had, and although it wasn’t a “win,” he did his job well. I think MP is guilty, but I do think there was reasonable doubt.
Yeah, he's pretty awesome considering that many defensive lawyers aren't exactly liked, but he's different because he cares about the law and wants to ensure that it is practiced correctly, so he's got a great sense of himself but he's also very good at his job. I'd hire him if I needed him but I don't have the money to afford his council. >. -
That thing with the glove in the OJ trial just showed that you can leave behind a glove that's too small for you, that you didn't wear when committing the murder, and get off scot-free because of it.
Sheridan: What jail does to Michael physically in those 8 years.... Rudolph: "For someone who is innocent, prison is just the most horrendous experience... The change in Michael was just staggering".
How can it be an owl ? She left the pool area and before she came in the house the owl attacked her ? Mike clearly would of heard her scream , and a trail of blood would of been from outside to the stairs ! ( a drop of blood at the front was seen ) Why would she go upstairs when she’s bleeding so heavily rather than go to the kitchen or call on mike ...
Actually, the pool was in the back quite far from the house but the owl theory suggests that she went into the house and out the front door to check on her Christmas lawn ornaments ( wooden reindeer) she had just put out that day and the owl attacks her out front, as that is where the blood drops on the walkway are, and the blood on the front door jamb....it wasn’t out back b the pool that the owl attack would have happened.
Please realize that they never were out by the pool that night. This is just a made up story that Michael Peterson presented in "The Staircase". Absolutely zero corroboration for this story.
@@marzipanhunt2870 exactly! And who is going to sit outside by the pool wearing shorts & a short sleeve shirt for 45 min, in according to Michael, 55 to 60 F temps? Also I think in one of the documentaries, at first he said he went into the house shortly after her, then later changed his story to going in 45 min later (to of course try to account for why the blood was dry).
If you look at a Google map of the house, you can see the pool is quite a ways from the house so you can't hear anyone scream. She obviously went outside to put out those reindeer because they weren't there the day before, the neighbor said that. There was no mention of the blood in the driveway and no mention of her bloody handprint on the door. It's also very mysterious that she had debris from outside in her hair and in the grasp of her hand
Death by owl sounds ridiculous, I know, but it does line up, if you really give it a chance and look at it reasonably, and it answers a lot of questions that were unknown. For example, during the trial it was brought into evidence that after looking into 271 similar cases of blunt force trauma death, the victim sustained either a skull fracture or brain damage, or both in every case, but in the Peterson case she had neither.
Your cherry picking. How many owl deaths are they? Name me in that state how many deaths by owl. Also if he fell down stairs, surely it would be by same death. Brain hemorrhage etc. There was strong evidence of strangulation on her neck. The circumstantial evidence from the phone call, to the dry blood neurons etc showed he did it.
@@larrydavid18 I think he killed his wife. I'm just saying that theory is more reasonable that some give it credit for. I still can't explain the anomaly of no skull fracture or brian damage, but like I said I do believe he killed her.
@@babayaga4320 I'm surprised intruder not mentioned more. I.e Michael sons. Both indebt and had criminal past. One of his sons refused to do a police statement. I think strangulation with repeated bashing against wall. The blowpoke thing was horrible science. Terrible prosecution
Ron was the smartest in Germany…..they left babies alone in the house for an hour ???? Ffs ….Patty “but I was down the street if they needed anything “ what ?
The first wife did not fall from a staircase. She just happened to have died by the staircase. He'll forever be referred as the staircase serial killer. One thing is for sure,Michael Peterson did an excellent job raising his kids. Lots of love and respect between him and his children.Beautiful family.To David? Love him. Love his dedication. He put his soul in the case,as did the private investigator.
respect? if a father loves and respects his children he wouldnt go and solicit gay partners and keep those emails! respect. no! i think he demanded it. Those children of his look likethey all had a ring through their noses and he was pulling their tether ..
@@jessiejames7492 I TOTALLY agree with you!!! I didn't explain my comment clearly. What I meant to was,how such a man as amoral as him yet his children have such love,care and affection for him? The love and support from his children amazed me. Had my father did what he did,cruising gay boys and I have the slightest doubt he's a murderer of both his wives,I doubt very much I'd be as supportive as his children were to him. Also,his team of lawyers amazed me of how much they personally dedicated themselves to his case.
if youre commenting from watching the netflix version I would say Peterson paid for it and the rest of the case were his lawyers, childfen, family members and the court room. Dont know who was telling the truth...''seems like they were all playing for the cameras. I was very surpirsed such a high p rofiel MURDER case could be privately paid for by the accused and didnt it disrupt the proceedings. It wouldnt happen in my country. no justice. and thats what he didnt get . HE DERSERVES IT
I heard someone say Michael must have hit Kathleen 48 times. Even so, with way fewer blows, I didn't see anything about evidence of him missing. If he had to hit a moving target, blood often makes the hand slip on the instrument used, often a knife, down and get cut by the knife, etc. Although, with valium and .07 blood alcohol in Kathleen's body, it seems she could easily be knocked out. I did not understand the L.A. toxicologist. With the opinion that Kathleen had high tolerance being a regular drinking, BUT a therapeutic level of Valium and trace amounts of other benzos, she said she could not say how Kathleen would be affected?
Only one of the kids is biologically Kathlee's while not biologically his. And guess what! That's the kid who is convinced that Peterson murdered her mother.
That's also the kid who stood to receive her life insurance money if Michael was out of the way. And she did receive it (also allowing for her biological father, Kathleen's first husband, to receive a small portion of the money as well). It wasn't surprising to me that she was the only child to switch sides...she had the most to gain.
There were also unconfirmed rumours at the time that the owl was having an extramarital affair with Duane Deaver at the time, which later ended due to their different chronobiological preferences.
The owl theory appears far fetched, but they are large birds, they fly silently, and their talons can absolutely cause deep lacerations. Pair that with alcohol and Valium and you potentially have a tragedy.
Very very far fetched... if it happened in the stairwell... the owl wouldn’t have had the space required to flap its wings (google owl wingspan and standard widths of staircases) to stay up in the air long enough to conduct this attack... Also, when a bird attacks like this, it would be because it feels threatened and would be highly stressed, due to this - the owl would molt many many many feathers during this short time... there would’ve been feathers EVERYWHERE! (have you ever owned a cat who’s a hunter?) They found a feather in her hair - which could’ve got their from her sitting outside at night lying back in a lounger - like they usually did... next time you go for a walk - pay attention to how many feathers you see just on the ground alone... (birds often make their nests in eves of homes, so when you walk out of a door (front or back) or even open up windows - is how you might end up with a feather in your hair... Onto the possibility that the owl attack happened outside - well Michael would’ve heard her screams for sure, there would’ve been blood outside and a trail to inside where she was found... My theory is they were arguing about how he was setting up dates with male prostitutes so not just cheating but putting her life in danger (aids & hepatitis alone were two massive risks at that time). He grabbed her head and smashed it on the lower steps, there’s no evidence of a fall as far as I’m concerned. He didn’t use a poker or any other weapon apart from his bare hands. He had done it before and thought he could get away with it again (he was defo having an affair with lady in Germany). Remember that the documentary was completely biased - and only included the defence’s theories and use of their specific evidence, conveniently leaving out (lying by omission) ALL of her injuries. If the FULL AUTOPSY findings were included no one would be in doubt about his blatant GUILT.
@@katiemcdbruce4924... You are far away from any truth to this case. If according to your analysis is anything to go by, banging Kathleen's head against any hard surface would have resulted in to some kind of skull fracture. And according to the expert analysis, the forensic pathologist, there were no fractures or anything that indicates banging of the head.
@@katiemcdbruce4924what makes you think it happened in the stairwell and not outside? How do you explain blood on the walkway and her bloody handprint on the door?
I also recently found out that, in addition to her natural instincts to defend her kin, the owl had a motive that was previously unknown: Shortly before the murder, she had signed a high-profile contract with Netflix for a 13-episode true-crime series that would provide her with mice, rats, frogs, birds, squirrels, snakes, fish and lizards for her family for the rest of her life.
I think the owl attacked her before getting to the door in the house for ever reason she didn't scream just ducked her head and ran for the door didn't realize how bad it clawed her head and fell down the stairs no other way to explain the microscopic owl feathers in her scalp and hair
A very sad yet compelling case. When I first saw the autopsy photos the first thing that came to mind was how much the marks on her head looked like talons. There was an incredible amount of mishandled forensic evidence. Also many things brought up during the trial that were not relevant to the trial just to try & discredit Mr. Peterson’s reputation. The evidence should speak for itself in the courtroom. So glad this poor family can finally get on with their lives.
I believe the owl theory.i was attacked by an owl in my early 20s at a bonfire. I was just sitting there and it started swooping down at me. It got the top of my head once then all the men started swinging chairs and sticks at it. Even with them doing that it tried to attack me relentlessly. Idk what would have happened had I been alone.the cut on my scalp was deep, bled badly, and was shaped exactly like hers. Their talons are like razors
Thank you for finally hearing something intelligent about this case. I did not like the documentary because I found it boring. However, `i never believed that Micheal Peterson was guilty. The people who prosecuted him with that flimsy, ridiculous evidence should be on trial themselves for malicious prosecution and harassment.
Yes and the Owl used a blow dryer to dry the blood before the EMT's arrived LOL to cover up his crime! Owl called the son over too and invited his shady ass to hang around and then be shady forever to divert suspicion from himself. Owls are Smart! Hoot Hoot!Give me a break. The man killed his wife.
Money money money not truth the guy was as guilty as hell I reckon Margaret was his love child she looks exactly like him to many coincidences. Lived around barn owls they don't attack people they are scared of people
the movie never mentions owl theory, it's fkng ridiculous that they don't mention it, imo it's what happened and as soon as I heard about it I thought "well that's what happened!" but of course the series needed to keep michael as the possible murderer and so they left it out
Peterson has already exonerated the killer owl by stating in his two 911 calls, each of which he cancelled, that his wife at the time had fallen down the stairs. The killer owl's lawyer therefore calls Peterson to the stand as a witness.
I watch alot of wrongly convicted shows/podcasts and 99.9% of the time, I agree with them. This time though, from not just the documentary but from research I've done on this case, I can't believe that anyone can think that Peterson isn't guilty. I know your lawyer has to believe it, but it's obvious that Peterson killed his wife. I know all the issues the prosecution made, but regardless there's more information to show that he's guilty
Right from the start of the docu staircase" on netflix, i have a good feeling that this Godamn Lawyer David is so intellegent and passionate. Such a good lawyer! his intellegence made him sexy! and watching the other side lawyer Jim hardin makes me frustrated i hav a bad vibe feelin Haha! What a great humor! I really admire David. 👏👏
Sure, it sounded ridicous when i first read about it. But what finally convinced me is the fact that there was no broken skull. How do you have massive blood everywhere and no skull fracture? Razor sharp talons.
He made a big mistake saying they were soulmates in the opening statement. He laid it on thick which cost him credibility and helped to allow the gay stuff to be allowed
The OWL THEORY. My family moved to Raleigh, NC. Every suburban home there has been literally carved out of the wild life of NC. Deer, bear, rabbits, and birds of prey are in the area among the houses. Here in Grosse Pointe, MI (Detroit) we have squirrels & that's it so it's a big difference. You left something crucial out in FAVOR of the OT. There was blood OUTSIDE on their door and along the concrete path in front. Why would there be blood outside? WHY didn't the cops do DNA on that blood? Wasn't it hers? They were hacks in this case because they hated Peterson because he bucked the Republican local religious status quo & he was in the closet. These people are Trumpers and he lived in Europe for a time ffs. Anyway, the owl attacks her and she tries to walk upstairs. Just as in the recent HBO fictional series. The fall and the blood spatter from choking & spitting make sense. The main bit of EVIDENCE is the pattern of her wounds on the top of her head. They fit perfectly as an OWL's talons! "How many owl deaths have we heard of?" Silly question. She wasn't literally killed by the owl, she was just wounded by it. The steps and a heavy couple falls sealed her fate & Michael not doing anything to help her made sure she died. So, he is likely guilty of manslaughter or second degree because he sat there and wiped up blood and waited for her to bleed out. Yes, he needed her money. No, he would not have smashed her head in with a poker but this was too good to be true for the creep. It's like her death was served up to him. He has NPD (we didn't talk about this when she was killed or even when you posted this video. Now, with the Depp/Heard case we hear about it daily. ) So, the OWL THEORY is 99% spot on. The 1% question? Um...it might be a 10% question to be honest. WHAT ABOUT THE STRANGULATION WOUNDS? No one on either side even brings them up! They could not come from the owl attack nor the fall. So these hacks on both sides in Durham (hillbillies in the end, no matter how much money they have) don't even bring up the wounds to her neck & throat. So now what? Kathleen was attacked by an OWL outside as she put the Christmas deer out. Blood on the walk and door handle as she got back in the house. The OWL is gone. She walks to the stairs, up a few & starts to bleed out. She falls back & that accounts for the rest. Liar, liar pants on fire, who couldn't live as he wanted to because he didn't live in New York or LA, saw his opportunity and strangled her to end it. Michael has never been innocent, we just haven't known how it went down. Why can't people see this complete version? Tell me where I am wrong. Chris D./Detroit
The owl theory is ridiculous, especially since the temperature was about 55 degrees/12 degrees and Michael stated he was outside for nearly an hour whilst being dressed in only shorts and a t-shirt. Also, Kathleen was on the PC upstairs with a recorded email sent around midnight.
In order to buy and swallow this "owl did it" shit, one would have to buy and swallow another piece of shit: The owl also got into Michael Peterson's shoe, stumped on Kathleen, left a bloody shoeprint on her sweatpants. Even imbeciles can not swallow that shit. Even Rudulph couldn't swallow that shit, because he would have to explain that bloody evidence to a jury.
@@thiscatrblx9641 Did YOU look at the facts? FACT: Her blood stains was found over 8 feet high up on the wall. FACT: Somebody was cleaning the blood from the wall. FACT: A bloody shoeprint print was found on her sweatpants. EXPLAIN!!!
Btw, I grew up with a barred owl living in a tree a few feet from our front door for many years. My parents and us four rambunctious children, coming in and out constantly and playing loudly in the vicinity daily and no attacks ever. Hmmmm...🤔 Not saying it's not possible BUT highly unlikely.
In this case, not "highly unlikely", the owl didn't do it. In order to buy and swallow this "owl did it" shit, one would have to buy and swallow another piece of shit: The owl also got into Michael Peterson's shoe, stumped on Kathleen, left a bloody shoeprint on her sweatpants. Nobody with half a brain would even consider that theory.
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SUCH a crush on this man. Brilliant, compassionate, insanely articulate, and a good, good man.
Dont tell your husband that liz...
Hes paid to make sure you like him, and he does a damn fine job.
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Omg my first thought too! He is so well spoken and beyond intelligent
@@Kelly-qv3wg Watched the Staircase, must be a decade ago-roughly when TV show Lost was released- VERY credibly explain ALL the blood + David Rudolph, he will get off. Blood was not explained. At all, really. Was a tall order.
The daughters (all three) suffered doubly & am sad for them. Fine women.
@Rufus Lloyd I slipped in my bathroom and hit my head on the door frame. I've never bled that much, is was all over the floor and my jacket got saturated. So yes, you can.
For those laughing at the owl theory it is the only theory that really fits EVERYTHING. She is outside drinking wine either Mike, has taken a Valium. She leaves to go inside. Just before the door the owl swoops and both talons make deep cuts in her scalp, but she quickly wrestles it off (There are photos online with people needing hundreds of stitches for this). This explains the pine needles and feather remnants found on her hands, as well as blood drops on walkway and door and other kniks and scratches. She likely doesn’t realize the extent of her injury immediately but realizes she is starting to bleed so she runs inside and the blood really starts to pour as she heads up the stairs. Perhaps she gets dizzy, blood runs into her eyes or in her haste she trips and falls backward down the stairs and hits her head. Now disoriented or briefly looses consciousness the blood really starts to flow. She coughs, sputters, tries to get up falls again or looses consciousness and continues to bleed without someone to provide pressure. Mike comes in after some time. Blood is drying and she is almost dead. Of course he runs to her, tries to arouse her, steps all over everything as you would, gets towels etc. I’m telling you, it’s what happened. A fall alone doesn’t make any sense with those gashes. Neither does a human attack with no bruising or brain trauma. They are lacerations fromsharp gallons and the pattern fits.
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Let me put it this way, in order to buy and swallow this "owl did it" shit, you would have to buy and swallow another piece of shit:
The owl also got into Michael Peterson's shoe, stumped on Kathleen, left a bloody shoeprint on her sweatpants.
Thank you, also.. maybe this is a silly comment, but why would he "bludgeon" her in the house unprovoked, and then just leave her there. That does not make sense. There are many ways to hurt someone. Why would he do it like this?
@@TheXmeimei You have to look at the forensic evidence again. It is very possible.
@@thiscatrblx9641 HOW???
Thats one badass lawyer
I don't care what the hell the judge's think, this is the man who won the fight" Burgess Meredith- 'Rocky'
No shit! Dudes a beast! Lawyers like this name their price
One Bad Ass Friggn OWL too !!
i think towards the end even he knew the man was guilty. Thats why he was told to take the plea....No lawyer will ask his client ...his innocent client to plead guilty under any plea unless there is reasonable doubt. Thats what it was . he was guilty but they didnt have all the facts to prove him above and beyond.
jessie james are you talking about Michael Peterson because he never pleaded guilty. And he maintains he still thinks he’s innocent. You can tell he thinks that.
He put his heart and soul and blood sweat and tears in this case. He cared. He is absolutely brilliant! Genuine man. God bless him. He is so handsome as well. ❤
He is hansome
He defended a murdering bastard
Whether you think Michael Peterson is guilty or not, David is a straight G! OG Triple OG. We be need more stand up lawyers like him in America, because the justice system is so unfair. Everyone knows the prosecutors have access, resources, and the ability to generally do whatever they see fit. All the while the defendant is limited and constantly restricted. IMO I don’t know if Michael Peterson is guilty or not, but he’s a definitely an extremely weird person. He was very strange. And I think the series the staircase actually made him seem even more weird to me. The forensic files episode of it was too cut and dry. Freda Black and Duane Devers are both scumbags and that’s the only reason I think their is so much doubt surrounding this. At least for myself. Even before the OWL theory came out I was thinking both of those prosecutors were grimey. Freda looking like Cruella Deville, with her strong southern accent would have made me shit my pants if I was a defendant. I guess that’s a compliment to her, cuz she was scary as shit! Lol
I guess you didn't know about Rudolph's wife.
That part is edited out of The Staircase, BTW.
@@lr8607 what happened?
@@skipper6528 You can search who Rudolph's wife is
And look for the full plea hearing.
Rudolph is a pos and so is his client.
David Rudolf seems guilty as all hell. Knock off a rich guys wife, frame him for the murder, then Represent him in the capital murder of his wife.
Superb interview
I’m from wicklow and now live in Nashville .
I have had corespondents with David. While I am not involved in Law in my capacity to help others in my work I found him to be a great example of fighting for the rights of others.
Thank you for this interview . Aaron
The shitty part is that to merely defend yourself in court, you need to pretty much start your own company and have a team of lawyers that cost 1 million dollars....even if youre innocent. And if youre guilty, you can afford to be acquitted...if not, you go to a jail for the poor.
its really unfair the prosecution gets to spend whatever they want, millions to prosecute you and only the rich can afford to defend themselves...it should be a bit more fair as to what you can do
Start saving.. or don't kill your wife? Just saying.... don't attack the messenger
Awww I really liked Ron! 😢
RIP Mr. Guerette. You did amazing work💙
Ron had an amazing personality and was a huge factor in helping Mike get out. These two, had me laughing quite a bit in such a serious Series. Rip good Sir.
SilkyJay86
Who the hell is Ron ?
RIP to Ron.I loved his shirts
Al Bert NOPE I’m saying RIP to the investigator, Ron.
He was the best!! One of my favorite parts in the entire documentary is when Ron got on the stand and ripped Deaver's claims to shreds!! RiP to Ron, a real man!!
"The owls are not what they seem" for any of you Twin Peaks fans out there
Hahaha!!!! I would have brought in Dave Lynch, he would've made more sense, him and the log lady!
My mind went exactly too the most creepyseries i ever watched.Everytime i see an owl i think of twin peaks.
I hope Dave don’t find out he is Guilty. He will look like Richard Gere in Primal Fear !
Owl theory starts at 20:00 🕗
Lindsay M thank you!! You an mvp
🙏🏻
Thanks!
Nobel Peace Prize
Lindsay for President
Saw this dude on the Staircase. Incredibly quick with all his rebuttals. Made the opposition look like dunder heads.
That’s probably why he lost!
And lost
Such a great attorney. Michael would most likely still be sitting in prison if he had anyone else.
I don't know about that... He failed to keep him out of prison the first time around & the main reason Michael Peterson is out is because of a review ordered by AG Roy Cooper of all cases involving the discredited forensic splatter blood investigator Duane Deaver.
As far as I'm aware, he (David Rudolf) wasn't working diligently on appeals after his conviction & when he did get involved pro bono he later dropped Peterson stating he could afford to rep. him any longer without getting paid & finally rep. Peterson once again after a mutual agreement.
In the end, he's involved in getting a guy out of jail that pleads guilty (Alford plea) & somehow PPL chose to believe an owl did it... Blood on the ceiling - Elizabeth Ratliff in Germany.
I believe he's currently working on a book, maybe it'll be like OJ's 'If I did it'
Dave Rudolph is the Man But Jose Baez would of got him off in the 1st trial and probably no Alfred Plea in the 2nd. He is the Baddest out there.
He got Casey Anthony off and Aaron Hernandez off of A Double Murder.
Baez made Johnnie Cochran look like a racist Jew !
That's right, because he murdered his wife...
True.
It takes a good attorney to get an innocent man out of jail, but a great one to free a guilty one -- provided the resources are abundant. Once the money runs out, you get stuck with an Alford plea. Bravo for a job well but not perfectly done.
Peterson belongs in prison. Look up Todd Peterson's recent video about his father allowing his mother to die from a heart attack after she babysat him and gave him a place to live when he couldn't find anyone else to take him in.
Reminds me of Dustin Hoffman in his tone and the way he captures his audience with intrigue...i could listen for hours.
The owl theory is the only one that makes perfect sense. You can actually see the talon marks on the back of Kathleen’s head. It’s a shame that the neighbour who knew that there were barred owls in the trees surrounding the property didn’t come forward initially. Had he given evidence at the time , this whole case could have been solved.
The fact is that the police despised Michael because of the scathing articles he had written about them. They were determined to frame him for his wife’s death. Michael is indeed a strange character but he’s not a murderer.
Beware of cute looking , cuddly owls. If they feel their young are in any danger they , like most wild creatures, will savagely attack. Kathleen had gone into the front yard to place two wooden Christmas reindeer there. It’s possible that the owls saw these reindeer as a threat and instinctively attacked her.
Owl attacks are a lot more common than people think
So you watched the TV show and now you're a specialist in owl behaviour and blood spatter analysis? Please
I believe the owl theory.i was attacked by an owl in my early 20s at a bonfire. I was just sitting there and it started swooping down at me. It got the top of my head once then all the men started swinging chairs and sticks at it. Even with them doing that it tried to attack me relentlessly. Idk what would have happened had I been alone.the cut on my scalp was deep, bled badly, and was shaped exactly like hers. Their talons are like razors
I don’t know why people are so dismissive of this theory.
Rudolf is right about the constant excuses for politicians behaving badly. The kind of people excusing every sex or racism scandal surrounding Donald Trump are often the same conservative types who would position themselves as moral crusaders against anything harmful to "Christian, family values." Nothing means anything to people anymore, they just want to be on the winning side.
Wow you certainly have a blindside. When you argue something do you consider that the other side can say the same thing about you or do you just blurt it out.
@@guenthersteiner3311 wow you really missed the point.
I watched the Staircase with complete and consistent awe of this man. What a brilliant defense lawyer.
Can't believe the jury found him guilty. So much reasonable doubt
tons of reasonable doubt... I don't believe he did it. But even if he did do it , it wasn't proved. It needs to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt... What the hell is wrong with the system?
You know his First Wife in Germany died of similar head injuries and on the staircase!??
Lenita A his first wife was at the trial supporting him. What doc did you watch?
He was found guilty the minute they allowed the Germany death into evidence ...
Yep. People just don’t get the whole reasonable doubt thing do they
Liked the interview quite a lot. Both the interviewer and the interviewee were great, in my opinion. I feel David is a terrific lawyer/professional! You could almost feel his passion for what he does. First time I see Michael and his interviews and gonna watch some more. Really liked his style and the way he conducted the interview. Asking good questions and letting his guest tell it all.
Interviewer did a poor job, never challenging him! Should have both sides, not just one side!
Lenita A How lost are you? This was an interview with David. And to challenge him? He's a lawyer, this was based of when he was Michael's lawyer. How much do you think he can tell, other than what he has already put out in court? If he asked anything else to 'challenge ' him as you say, this interview would've been all "no comment." 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I could literally listen to Mr. Rudolf read pages from the phone book and still find it interesting. Such a well spoken, thoughtful word choosing, and deliberate individual.
😁😁
Hmmmmm
I've only recently caught up with the case, the TV documentary series and... the owl theory. The latter has blown my mind. It’s so plausible, and so terrible.
Sorry NOT plausible.
Owls can’t strangle people
Rudolf loves the way Rudolf Talks👌🏻
Regardless of what your opinion is about the case, this lawyer was amazing.
I’m sad to hear the PI who helped the case so much has passed. He was another person who did an amazing job.
Supreme lawyer with a badass voice.
He could convince me Im a trans black woman.
Scorch428 Curious... what are you really? Respectfully.
@@williamperdue3900an idiot
What nobody mentions is at the end of the Netflix documentary, the judge says he made a mistake by having the homosexual evidence and his ex-wife death to be permitted because that was "very very prejudicial". Also, he said he thought "he could have had a reasonable doubt ". Means he was not guilty!!
It wasn’t his ex wife. It was a friend of he and his ex wife
Also that he admitted he was lying for years about Kathleen knowing. The Alford plea allows for the state to save face, and of course the fact that he can’t sue them
The jury didn't even care about that, they spent no time on it at all
I wish i was as good with words as this guy.... id prolly be a lawyer too.
Well “prolly” isn’t helping the lawyer scenario
Great work! Congratulations on your success, your tour, your connection with Michael. All fantastic stuff!
Question for David Rudolf: How do you enjoy the wealth and the fame that you acquired defending a guilty man who brutally killed his wife?
He did a lot of it pro bono when they ran out of money
Cool. Thanks for sharing your opinion. There simply wasn't enough evidence that Michael killed Kathleen. There is a lot of evidence that suggests she was attacked by an owl and bled to death after falling on the stair. We'll just never know for certain what happened, though. If you watched the Staircase you'd know that David did a lot of pro bono work for Michael when he could no longer afford to pay attorney fees because he truly believed Michael was innocent. That speaks volumes for his character if you ask me
Nice phony compliment followed by a slap in the face.
This is RIDICULOUS!
I think the original defense ( and “expert” testimony from Henry Lee) makes the most sense.
She fell UP 3 steps, then down 3, then back UP 3, then down again. Then she stood up and slipped back down again. Then, she did the hokey, pokey but instead of turning herself around, guess what? She fell UP 2-3 steps again. Because so many people die annually from repeatedly falling UP and down the same 2-4 steps.
The defense made $800,000 to come up with that testimony yet my 7 year old could’ve come up with it ( and the owl theory) for an ice cream cone.
Ha haaa haaa 👏
Then she saw her head was cut and used her finger to flick blood 9 feet into the air against the wall.
After that, she played dead and when Peterson approached her, she flicked more blood onto his inner shorts seam.
Shes a flicker for sure.
I mean, come on..the guy did it. There is no mystery here. There just isnt enough evidence to convict him. You need a murder weapon at LEAST. Bloody clothes would help too. Where would he get rid of them? Convince me that he left his house if you want my conviction. Yes, he probably did it. But we dont convict people on probably in this country.
@@Scorch428well they did convict him. So the blood was dry when the emts got there so you can probably use your imagination to see what he did with his clothes
If you watch the documentary, you can really tell that David could not care less if Peterson did it or not, lol...thats how lawyers are...its not whether you did it, its what you can prove in court.
Her family obviously thinks differently but your right many lawyer get people off who are guilty and many in prison who are not. I in fact think he did it if he did he git off lightly he soon admitted it to get out of jail
100% it was a big bird attack. The injuries were absolutely not blunt trauma
Love your work, David.👏🏾❤
Someone wants a beard ride....
Fantastic interview with great questions. I have to say that I really appreciate you asking those last few questions. And as much as I loved David before, I love him 10 times more now that I know his views on Trump
The owl in question was an Irish owl, and he 'aint talking. When questioned the owl repeats, "where's me fuckin' lawyer ?"
I only watched the whole The Staircase documentary because this lawyer is so brilliant and interesting to listen to. They should make a documentary just about him working his cases
Dude it's one thing having your wife coincidentally attacked and killed by an Owl at the bottom of your stairs. It's another thing having another woman in your life where YOU were the last one in contact with, also killed from head injury and also at the bottom of the stairs.
David Rudolf is just good at playing the legal game - if the prosecutors had an equally-capable lawyer Michael would still be in jail.
Everyone likes to play this oh dead at the bottom of the stairs twice thing, but stairs are a common place for people to traverse day to day. If the two women had died in a car accident nobody would have said anything.
These things just happen in life. And both women died in completely different ways. With Ratliffe there was no blood, and she was declared as having a stroke by a neurologist. That has nothing to do with Kathleen's death, which showed lacerations on her skull.
So did he kill them both two different ways but stage both as a staircase accident? Why would he choose a staircase both times?
@@MarcusT86 indeed, for the simple minded the fact they both died on a staircase means the case is a slam dunk.
She had a brain hemorrhage with brain bleeds and severe headaches starting weeks prior. You miss that part?
@@mvwmark8955oh ya and how did you hear about that? On a one sided biased documentary
@@RobK32On the documentary. Where else? The “sided” of the documentary is your opinion. Not interested in that. 👍
Why did the interviewer not pursue talking about the Owl Theory? He just goes on to talk about prison and drops the most interesting part!
Because its embarrassing, Rudolph clearly doesn't believe it to be true either
I think he represented Peterson very well. What a job he had, and although it wasn’t a “win,” he did his job well. I think MP is guilty, but I do think there was reasonable doubt.
Y can’t they DNA test the feathers? This would clarify alot
They really don't have to DNA the feathers, Michael Peterson didn't have any, so who did the feathers belong to?
Yeah, he's pretty awesome considering that many defensive lawyers aren't exactly liked, but he's different because he cares about the law and wants to ensure that it is practiced correctly, so he's got a great sense of himself but he's also very good at his job. I'd hire him if I needed him but I don't have the money to afford his council. >. -
What a surprise he tells one side of a story, defending his client, and u believed him!
If he was the lawyer for the family who loss their love one. I would appreciate his hard working with no doubt.
That thing with the glove in the OJ trial just showed that you can leave behind a glove that's too small for you, that you didn't wear when committing the murder, and get off scot-free because of it.
The thing about OJ was he was taken off medication and he retained fluids and made his hands swell.
Sheridan: What jail does to Michael physically in those 8 years....
Rudolph: "For someone who is innocent, prison is just the most horrendous experience... The change in Michael was just staggering".
How can it be an owl ? She left the pool area and before she came in the house the owl attacked her ? Mike clearly would of heard her scream , and a trail of blood would of been from outside to the stairs ! ( a drop of blood at the front was seen ) Why would she go upstairs when she’s bleeding so heavily rather than go to the kitchen or call on mike ...
T Dirty indeed it is ,we all have our own theory , that’s what makes this case very interesting
Actually, the pool was in the back quite far from the house but the owl theory suggests that she went into the house and out the front door to check on her Christmas lawn ornaments ( wooden reindeer) she had just put out that day and the owl attacks her out front, as that is where the blood drops on the walkway are, and the blood on the front door jamb....it wasn’t out back b the pool that the owl attack would have happened.
Please realize that they never were out by the pool that night. This is just a made up story that Michael Peterson presented in "The Staircase". Absolutely zero corroboration for this story.
@@marzipanhunt2870 exactly! And who is going to sit outside by the pool wearing shorts & a short sleeve shirt for 45 min, in according to Michael, 55 to 60 F temps? Also I think in one of the documentaries, at first he said he went into the house shortly after her, then later changed his story to going in 45 min later (to of course try to account for why the blood was dry).
If you look at a Google map of the house, you can see the pool is quite a ways from the house so you can't hear anyone scream. She obviously went outside to put out those reindeer because they weren't there the day before, the neighbor said that. There was no mention of the blood in the driveway and no mention of her bloody handprint on the door. It's also very mysterious that she had debris from outside in her hair and in the grasp of her hand
We need to put that owl in prison!
yeah when all else fails, blame the owl
If it makes you feel better, the owl's already dead
Death by owl sounds ridiculous, I know, but it does line up, if you really give it a chance and look at it reasonably, and it answers a lot of questions that were unknown. For example, during the trial it was brought into evidence that after looking into 271 similar cases of blunt force trauma death, the victim sustained either a skull fracture or brain damage, or both in every case, but in the Peterson case she had neither.
True.
Aww hell no. 😭
Your cherry picking. How many owl deaths are they? Name me in that state how many deaths by owl. Also if he fell down stairs, surely it would be by same death. Brain hemorrhage etc. There was strong evidence of strangulation on her neck. The circumstantial evidence from the phone call, to the dry blood neurons etc showed he did it.
@@larrydavid18 I think he killed his wife. I'm just saying that theory is more reasonable that some give it credit for. I still can't explain the anomaly of no skull fracture or brian damage, but like I said I do believe he killed her.
@@babayaga4320 I'm surprised intruder not mentioned more. I.e Michael sons. Both indebt and had criminal past. One of his sons refused to do a police statement. I think strangulation with repeated bashing against wall. The blowpoke thing was horrible science. Terrible prosecution
I'm sorry but that guy is not so stupid as to kill his wife on the stairs then call the police . What a ridiculous theory .
Could listen to David all day
Ron was the smartest in Germany…..they left babies alone in the house for an hour ???? Ffs ….Patty “but I was down the street if they needed anything “ what ?
The first wife did not fall from a staircase. She just happened to have died by the staircase. He'll forever be referred as the staircase serial killer. One thing is for sure,Michael Peterson did an excellent job raising his kids. Lots of love and respect between him and his children.Beautiful family.To David? Love him. Love his dedication. He put his soul in the case,as did the private investigator.
respect? if a father loves and respects his children he wouldnt go and solicit gay partners and keep those emails! respect. no! i think he demanded it. Those children of his look likethey all had a ring through their noses and he was pulling their tether ..
@@jessiejames7492 I TOTALLY agree with you!!! I didn't explain my comment clearly. What I meant to was,how such a man as amoral as him yet his children have such love,care and affection for him? The love and support from his children amazed me. Had my father did what he did,cruising gay boys and I have the slightest doubt he's a murderer of both his wives,I doubt very much I'd be as supportive as his children were to him. Also,his team of lawyers amazed me of how much they personally dedicated themselves to his case.
if youre commenting from watching the netflix version I would say Peterson paid for it and the rest of the case were his lawyers, childfen, family members and the court room. Dont know who was telling the truth...''seems like they were all playing for the cameras. I was very surpirsed such a high p rofiel MURDER case could be privately paid for by the accused and didnt it disrupt the proceedings. It wouldnt happen in my country. no justice. and thats what he didnt get . HE DERSERVES IT
@@jessiejames7492He didn't get justice? Yes,I saw the Netflix docu.
@@A358M thats what the show was trying to tell everyone. As for me the verdict WAS JUSTICE. ! thanks for replying. enjoy the back and forth of info
"I don't care what the hell the judge's think, this is the man who won the fight" Burgess Meredith- 'Rocky'
bonniebloodworth know that quote anywhere. No need to cite your source to us crazy Rocky fans.
@@williamperdue3900 Alright, turn it down. This was a whole year ago lol
bonniebloodworth Real Rocky fans NEVER turn it down. Thought you knew!!
I heard someone say Michael must have hit Kathleen 48 times. Even so, with way fewer blows, I didn't see anything about evidence of him missing. If he had to hit a moving target, blood often makes the hand slip on the instrument used, often a knife, down and get cut by the knife, etc. Although, with valium and .07 blood alcohol in Kathleen's body, it seems she could easily be knocked out.
I did not understand the L.A. toxicologist. With the opinion that Kathleen had high tolerance being a regular drinking, BUT a therapeutic level of Valium and trace amounts of other benzos, she said she could not say how Kathleen would be affected?
.07 alcohol is about 3 drinks and the valium level wasnt that high. She would probably “crash” when in bed but would arouse to stimuli
Only one of the kids is biologically Kathlee's while not biologically his. And guess what! That's the kid who is convinced that Peterson murdered her mother.
That's also the kid who stood to receive her life insurance money if Michael was out of the way. And she did receive it (also allowing for her biological father, Kathleen's first husband, to receive a small portion of the money as well). It wasn't surprising to me that she was the only child to switch sides...she had the most to gain.
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There were also unconfirmed rumours at the time that the owl was having an extramarital affair with Duane Deaver at the time, which later ended due to their different chronobiological preferences.
The owl theory appears far fetched, but they are large birds, they fly silently, and their talons can absolutely cause deep lacerations. Pair that with alcohol and Valium and you potentially have a tragedy.
Very very far fetched... if it happened in the stairwell... the owl wouldn’t have had the space required to flap its wings (google owl wingspan and standard widths of staircases) to stay up in the air long enough to conduct this attack... Also, when a bird attacks like this, it would be because it feels threatened and would be highly stressed, due to this - the owl would molt many many many feathers during this short time... there would’ve been feathers EVERYWHERE! (have you ever owned a cat who’s a hunter?)
They found a feather in her hair - which could’ve got their from her sitting outside at night lying back in a lounger - like they usually did... next time you go for a walk - pay attention to how many feathers you see just on the ground alone... (birds often make their nests in eves of homes, so when you walk out of a door (front or back) or even open up windows - is how you might end up with a feather in your hair...
Onto the possibility that the owl attack happened outside - well Michael would’ve heard her screams for sure, there would’ve been blood outside and a trail to inside where she was found...
My theory is they were arguing about how he was setting up dates with male prostitutes so not just cheating but putting her life in danger (aids & hepatitis alone were two massive risks at that time). He grabbed her head and smashed it on the lower steps, there’s no evidence of a fall as far as I’m concerned.
He didn’t use a poker or any other weapon apart from his bare hands. He had done it before and thought he could get away with it again (he was defo having an affair with lady in Germany).
Remember that the documentary was completely biased - and only included the defence’s theories and use of their specific evidence, conveniently leaving out (lying by omission) ALL of her injuries. If the FULL AUTOPSY findings were included no one would be in doubt about his blatant GUILT.
@@katiemcdbruce4924 wrong
@@katiemcdbruce4924... You are far away from any truth to this case.
If according to your analysis is anything to go by, banging Kathleen's head against any hard surface would have resulted in to some kind of skull fracture. And according to the expert analysis, the forensic pathologist, there were no fractures or anything that indicates banging of the head.
@@katiemcdbruce4924what makes you think it happened in the stairwell and not outside? How do you explain blood on the walkway and her bloody handprint on the door?
I also recently found out that, in addition to her natural instincts to defend her kin, the owl had a motive that was previously unknown: Shortly before the murder, she had signed a high-profile contract with Netflix for a 13-episode true-crime series that would provide her with mice, rats, frogs, birds, squirrels, snakes, fish and lizards for her family for the rest of her life.
Also I wanna know more.about the thing that happened with Elizabeth I don't recall hearing about it much..why wasn't there enough to jump on it
You have to see this barred owls and those strong clawed legs, you will believe this theory without a doubt.
He liked michael till he ran out of money...
He is so yummy
Awesome interview
Ortellios thanks a mil!
Just read a comment on another owl theory video, a user called Dallas Cowboys Highlights beautifully wrote.. If the talons fit, you must aquit. 🤣🤣
I think the owl attacked her before getting to the door in the house for ever reason she didn't scream just ducked her head and ran for the door didn't realize how bad it clawed her head and fell down the stairs no other way to explain the microscopic owl feathers in her scalp and hair
There was 2 microscopic feathers. You would see more feathers and lots of them if an Owl attacked.
In my expert opinion an intruder must have entered and attacked with an owl.
HAHAHA an owl serve like japanese katana.
I’m in love with Rudolf 😭
Can someone explain to me why they had the 4th show before the 2nd??
Realyna,great lawyer en man
R.I.P. Ron. A good guy ✌️🙏
I mean anyone looking at the evidence critically has to see this was an Owl attack.
Whatever happened to petersens brother who who was in the early part of the film .
Raymond Bonington I wondered exactly the same thing. Did he die or did he just turn himself against his brother?
DearMakeUpDiary I'll try to find out ,he might have seen through his brother 👍
Bill Peterson is a lawyer in Nevada....he went back to Nevada to go back to his own life....and the other brother Jack lives in Vegas, I think.
A very sad yet compelling case. When I first saw the autopsy photos the first thing that came to mind was how much the marks on her head looked like talons. There was an incredible amount of mishandled forensic evidence. Also many things brought up during the trial that were not relevant to the trial just to try & discredit Mr. Peterson’s reputation. The evidence should speak for itself in the courtroom. So glad this poor family can finally get on with their lives.
A poker can do similar damage!
M Wilk yup. Usually when prosecutors go into personal attacks, i start to have questions about the process. Focus on the evidence... in most cases.
I wonder if Mr. Rudolf would take on Chris Watts..?
Wishful Thinking why would he take him on? Did he not confess and plead guilty to 1st degree murder x 4?
Most people attacked by a bird sream.....
Media seems to sway court of public opinion toward convictions... Documentaries sway court of public opinion toward exonerations.
22:59 Owl Theory.
I believe the owl theory.i was attacked by an owl in my early 20s at a bonfire. I was just sitting there and it started swooping down at me. It got the top of my head once then all the men started swinging chairs and sticks at it. Even with them doing that it tried to attack me relentlessly. Idk what would have happened had I been alone.the cut on my scalp was deep, bled badly, and was shaped exactly like hers. Their talons are like razors
Its wild how you guys have to force a Trump reference in at the end.
John Tortorella ?
He wont say it.......but he most definitely has taken a hit because most ppl clearly think Peterson was GUILTY
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Thank you for finally hearing something intelligent about this case. I did not like the documentary because I found it boring. However, `i never believed that Micheal Peterson was guilty. The people who prosecuted him with that flimsy, ridiculous evidence should be on trial themselves for malicious prosecution and harassment.
How did blood get 6 feet up the wall though?
Oh the Owl did it ,,, I think there was an Owl on the grassy knoll also
Read my post
owls can't afford sniper rifles, they were forced to use their beaks.
Yes and the Owl used a blow dryer to dry the blood before the EMT's arrived LOL to cover up his crime! Owl called the son over too and invited his shady ass to hang around and then be shady forever to divert suspicion from himself. Owls are Smart! Hoot Hoot!Give me a break. The man killed his wife.
It’s the same breed of part fowl/part Satan.
Money money money not truth the guy was as guilty as hell I reckon Margaret was his love child she looks exactly like him to many coincidences. Lived around barn owls they don't attack people they are scared of people
It didn't look like an accident b/c it wasn't!!!!
An owl didn't cover Kathleen's arms in defensive bruises. RIP Kathleen.
the movie never mentions owl theory, it's fkng ridiculous that they don't mention it, imo it's what happened and as soon as I heard about it I thought "well that's what happened!" but of course the series needed to keep michael as the possible murderer and so they left it out
why would the lawyer even worry there would be blood on the blow poke if he believed his client was innocent. 🤔 Hmmm!
Peterson has already exonerated the killer owl by stating in his two 911 calls, each of which he cancelled, that his wife at the time had fallen down the stairs. The killer owl's lawyer therefore calls Peterson to the stand as a witness.
Lol his brother lost cred for not telling Rudolph too 🤣
I watch alot of wrongly convicted shows/podcasts and 99.9% of the time, I agree with them. This time though, from not just the documentary but from research I've done on this case, I can't believe that anyone can think that Peterson isn't guilty. I know your lawyer has to believe it, but it's obvious that Peterson killed his wife. I know all the issues the prosecution made, but regardless there's more information to show that he's guilty
Right from the start of the docu staircase" on netflix, i have a good feeling that this Godamn Lawyer David is so intellegent and passionate. Such a good lawyer! his intellegence made him sexy! and watching the other side lawyer Jim hardin makes me frustrated i hav a bad vibe feelin Haha! What a great humor! I really admire David. 👏👏
Sure, it sounded ridicous when i first read about it. But what finally convinced me is the fact that there was no broken skull. How do you have massive blood everywhere and no skull fracture? Razor sharp talons.
He made a big mistake saying they were soulmates in the opening statement. He laid it on thick which cost him credibility and helped to allow the gay stuff to be allowed
The OWL THEORY. My family moved to Raleigh, NC. Every suburban home there has been literally carved out of the wild life of NC. Deer, bear, rabbits, and birds of prey are in the area among the houses. Here in Grosse Pointe, MI (Detroit) we have squirrels & that's it so it's a big difference.
You left something crucial out in FAVOR of the OT. There was blood OUTSIDE on their door and along the concrete path in front. Why would there be blood outside? WHY didn't the cops do DNA on that blood? Wasn't it hers? They were hacks in this case because they hated Peterson because he bucked the Republican local religious status quo & he was in the closet. These people are Trumpers and he lived in Europe for a time ffs.
Anyway, the owl attacks her and she tries to walk upstairs. Just as in the recent HBO fictional series. The fall and the blood spatter from choking & spitting make sense. The main bit of EVIDENCE is the pattern of her wounds on the top of her head. They fit perfectly as an OWL's talons!
"How many owl deaths have we heard of?" Silly question. She wasn't literally killed by the owl, she was just wounded by it. The steps and a heavy couple falls sealed her fate & Michael not doing anything to help her made sure she died. So, he is likely guilty of manslaughter or second degree because he sat there and wiped up blood and waited for her to bleed out. Yes, he needed her money. No, he would not have smashed her head in with a poker but this was too good to be true for the creep. It's like her death was served up to him. He has NPD (we didn't talk about this when she was killed or even when you posted this video. Now, with the Depp/Heard case we hear about it daily. )
So, the OWL THEORY is 99% spot on. The 1% question? Um...it might be a 10% question to be honest. WHAT ABOUT THE STRANGULATION WOUNDS? No one on either side even brings them up! They could not come from the owl attack nor the fall. So these hacks on both sides in Durham (hillbillies in the end, no matter how much money they have) don't even bring up the wounds to her neck & throat.
So now what? Kathleen was attacked by an OWL outside as she put the Christmas deer out. Blood on the walk and door handle as she got back in the house. The OWL is gone. She walks to the stairs, up a few & starts to bleed out. She falls back & that accounts for the rest. Liar, liar pants on fire, who couldn't live as he wanted to because he didn't live in New York or LA, saw his opportunity and strangled her to end it. Michael has never been innocent, we just haven't known how it went down. Why can't people see this complete version? Tell me where I am wrong.
Chris D./Detroit
sorry I'm a hillbilly....ask someone from New York or Paris ..
The owl theory is ridiculous, especially since the temperature was about 55 degrees/12 degrees and Michael stated he was outside for nearly an hour whilst being dressed in only shorts and a t-shirt. Also, Kathleen was on the PC upstairs with a recorded email sent around midnight.
In order to buy and swallow this "owl did it" shit, one would have to buy and swallow another piece of shit:
The owl also got into Michael Peterson's shoe, stumped on Kathleen, left a bloody shoeprint on her sweatpants.
Even imbeciles can not swallow that shit. Even Rudulph couldn't swallow that shit, because he would have to explain that bloody evidence to a jury.
Again, look at the facts more closely. Just because something initially sounds outlandish, that does not mean its impossible.
@@thiscatrblx9641 Did YOU look at the facts?
FACT: Her blood stains was found over 8 feet high up on the wall.
FACT: Somebody was cleaning the blood from the wall.
FACT: A bloody shoeprint print was found on her sweatpants.
EXPLAIN!!!
@@TheXmeimei Fact 1, whats not believable?? Fact two, it was not proved that anyone tried to clean it. fact three, he was panicking. Anything else?
@@TheXmeimei you are an idiot. Explain owl feathers in her head + tree parts.
the lawyers for the defense do not want to know if the client did the deed; so they really don't want the whole truth.
Criminal defense "lawyers" can not afford the truth. The truth wouldn't just send their clients to prison, it would also ruin their business.
Ron is my rock of Gibraltar!
Btw, I grew up with a barred owl living in a tree a few feet from our front door for many years. My parents and us four rambunctious children, coming in and out constantly and playing loudly in the vicinity daily and no attacks ever. Hmmmm...🤔 Not saying it's not possible BUT highly unlikely.
In this case, not "highly unlikely", the owl didn't do it.
In order to buy and swallow this "owl did it" shit, one would have to buy and swallow another piece of shit:
The owl also got into Michael Peterson's shoe, stumped on Kathleen, left a bloody shoeprint on her sweatpants.
Nobody with half a brain would even consider that theory.
You were never murdered by your husband either, so according to your line of thinking, it's also highly unlikely that he killed his wife.
Susie please don’t come and ruin a good thing with LOGIC.
Barn owls are unlikely to attack humans! Definitely, not possible to kill a human!
And this happening Twice to Both of his Wives!!
Susie but there are records of owls attacking people so
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