Chrysler-Dodge-Mitsubishi 2.5L Misfiring, Pinging, Detonation, Stalling, No Start, P0171 Code
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- Do not let the P0171 lean condition fault code throw you off. Learn how to properly troubleshoot and stop being a "parts changer"!! This engine DOES NOT have a fuel system problem.
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Experience gave you a leg up on this one, but could we get there without the experience, only using diagnostic logic?
Yes.
P0171, watch fuel trims: Coinciding with misfire event, but clearly reactive, not causative. P0171 invalid for direction on misfire.
Problem intermittent, related to heat: Rules out compression/exhaust. Scope ignition and fuel injectors. Do we need to look at MAP in this case? No. Known vacuum leak; MAP data invalid to start with, and vacuum leak is constant, while problem is intermittent. Idle is being controlled despite vacuum leak, points to functioning MAP sensor.
Ignition and FI scoping reveals intermittent random firing events: Immediately points towards cam/crank. Scope, find, analyze, done!
For those just starting out, don't let your lack of experience hold you back. Have a solid diagnostic process, and don't deviate from it. People WILL give you a hard time, call you slow, say you're wasting your time; just ignore it. Have your process, do your thing, and never second-guess yourself unless the data you get from your process tells you to. Speed will come in time, but until then, people will start to notice your low comeback rate.
And any time you hear someone say "Oh man, I don't want that job!" Jump up and say you'll take it. Doesn't matter what vehicle it is, the laws of physics and fundamentals of electrical and electronic design don't care what make of car it is, or what system they're affecting, and neither should you. :)
This may be the best write up I've ever read. I feel like you are reading my mind. Thank you so much! I'm pinning this comment
This thought process is all good and well if a fault is occuring consistently or occurs in a short time frame and you are able to gather the data such as "only occurs when warm or hot".
The reality is that most people doing diagnosis are either stretched for time (why else would Danner get Scanner Danner in?) or under pressure from an employer to make a quick diagnosis or not have the right equipment or the product knowledge and then come to conclusions that are incorrect because of those numerous external factors.
I have been in the trade for almost 30 years now and still make some incorrect calls, not because of lack of knowledge, but because sometimes the process isn't that straight forward and you have work building up and a customer that has limited funds to pay for the time, for instance, and the best you can do is make a call based on experience.
I am a foreman at a small shop now that specialises in the hard to fix faults and have a team that is learning new things and don't pressure them too much beyond their skill levels and help when they are stumped and can't figure it out.
"No one problem is ever the same"
@@2secondslater Well put!
PS. I also forgot that sometimes a customer fails to tell you the history on the vehicle and what has been done previously, making diagnosis harder, as there are processes you need to undertake given lack of information... This is especially relevant in what we do at the shop I work at as we get a majority of vehicles that come from other shops or dealers or used car companies.
Absolutely correct. Every diagnosis--and every situation--is unique. That's exactly why having solid fundamental knowledge and a sound process is so important.
What we see Paul doing here, taking an hour and thirteen minutes to call a crank sensor, is about teaching. In the real world, this is a 10-15 minute diagnosis, with most of that waiting for the car to warm up enough to fault. If you're billing for an hour of diagnostic time, you're still way ahead of the curve, and you're not risking losing time in a comeback for an educated guess.
Keep in mind also that setting expectations with your customer is a big part of the repair process; especially with intermittent faults. Easy to say when you're in a small shop or self-employed, but there's nothing that says you can't work with your service writer(s) in a dealership or large-scale shop environment to help them work with your customers, and to communicate customer concerns to you.
It'll never be perfect, but routine processes make things easier, and consistent. Consistency builds experience. Experience lets you make those knee-jerk educated guesses. :)
I am 46 years old and I have been around a lot of mechanics and have taken many problem vehicles to mechanics and NEVER have I ever seen anyone diagnose as well and thorough as you do, NEVER. So keep talking, I am learning a lot. Thank you!
Thank you Rex! I have more on my website too when your ready (about 500 more 😉)
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ScannerDanner love your vids!!
Thanks for linking me to this video
@@nunya2814 are you the one with the Jeep crank sensor we were talking about?
@@ScannerDanner yes sir
@@ScannerDanner so I got the crank sensor air gap perfect, crank counts cycling like they should, cam counts are very suspicious however, it's only counting to 5-7 then dropping back to zero, now getting random misfire on 6, 3 and 2. Thought the cam synchronizer was maybe out of alignment, but seems to be in perfect alignment by the book. If there's another link you could direct me to so I can further diagnosis this I'd be in your debt good sir.
Well that was super awesome. The format of the premier of a new video is one that allows me to interact with you guys during the video and make comments about certain tests I just did and why. It doesn't allow for deep discussions though because you don't want to pause the video, but that is what the replay is for right? It was really nice spending this time with you guys.
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Have you written a book on ur teachings,I would buy one in a second.this information is priceless.
Hey Filibert... his Scanner Danner Premium Channel and all the information that comes along with being a member is also priceless. At least do the trail.
I have! You can purchase it from my website at www.scannerdanner.com
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Thank you Burt!
ScannerDanner Can a faulty crank shaft position sensor throw a P0351 coil code? It was a crank no start. I took spark plug No. 1 off of a Jeep 4.0 and I got it to start. I put the plug back on and the code went away. After it warmed up, it started to run rich. Check engine code p0171 popped up. I have already replaced the crankshaft sensor about a year ago from o’Reillys.
Got called by a friend, had a misfire code. parts store sold him coil, plug wires and plugs. I fixed the coil pigtail and all was good. Love the computer stuff. Thank you.
Priceless lessons! The " Holy Grail" of understanding electrical circuits. For all the new mechanics, understanding that can save you hours of frustration and wasted money on parts not needed.
thanks Jeff
So true.that is one area I am trying to understand.i have a crank nospark no start. I have bought everything new. An still nothing.i have two pcm I have gotten an still..Noth ing
@@frankguerra3314 parts changer?
On those crank sensors I usually stick a piece of a business card to the end of it and install it so that its touching the flywheel, Once the engine starts it harmlessly moves the piece of business card out of the way
I thought all crank sensor's had a piece of sticky paper on them & worked like your business card works ?
Good idea...
May I ask why do u put that on it..
Awesome video! For the guys without the daily experience to already know the crank sensor is a pull-down design, we'd have to unplug the crank sensor to find the 5v on the signal wire. And then we're already at the crank sensor harness and I'd probably just start scoping from there. So we'd be forced to do the test you were able to avoid. Also watching the pid for cam sync going in / out made me think come on Chrysler, you should be throwing some sort of sync code, crank sensor or misfire code, something more than a lean code! And to the whole Danner family, your videos are well appreciated.
great comment and couldn't agree more
This video is full of gold nuggets of info. Some people watch to try to match up the symptoms and figure out what part they need to change if it happens to them. Others of us watch to see the diagnostic process. Know the Theory, observe the problem, formulate a hypothesis and test the hypothesis. Keep on teaching and take all the time you want. I will probably never run across that car with that engine, but I learned a lot of useful information for all troubleshooting on all cars.
perfect attitude for success my friend! keep it up
Your brother is a very huge motivator,he doesn't seem to like the camera but his mind is going a million miles a minute.
Always man, I look up to him so much
I don`t know about others, but for me, the more complex and in depth are your videos and explanations, the more I like them...thanks Paul!
I agree with this statement
It's so cool when things are done with a thought process and letting the readings then steer you in a direction. That why this channel works for me. The explanations of these steps are in detail
Good info Paul,it's like when a abs sensor has corrosion pushing it from the mounting surface changing the amplitude of the single. You were teaching more then just a running problem.
I'm sure a live, interactive diagnosis would be cool to try, but this format is probably the best of both worlds. It's great that you can comment and answer questions during the broadcast. Thanks again.
Been watching every day for 11 months premium channel is worth every penny
I had a shop owner the other day tell me his scanner told him what parts the car needed. Apparently it don't work out to well if he has to call in a Mobile guy like me in to actually tell them what is wrong and why. Codes and data can sometimes lead you torwards a direction but you know as well as I do testing still needs to be done to verify. So many rely on codes alone. Hope more techs find your channel to help raise the bar in this industry.
thank you my friend and good to hear from you!!
It's tough when you're trying to teach, people understand at different rates and it may take multiple examples of the same before things click, anyway thanks for taking the time to share this
Awesome video Paul and Caleb ...I For one really appreciate what you two do ...I have been a premium member for maybe 3 years now and enjoy all you teach and the repairs you do on video .so not only Entertaining but also Educational...following in your book really helps to get it to sink in .so to all of you out there ......SIGN UP .....premium channel ...you will not be disappointed
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you sticking with me for so long.
And for those of you counting. 3 years with me would run less than some of the weekend seminars that are available to us in the aftermarket.
This channel has become one of my favorites. The way you explain things is so easy to understand, already helped me diagnose a few wiring issues. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
Thank you so much!
Awesome video Paul, great work. Especially liked the emphasis you put on the Time the signal was abnormally High and Low and how these instances could have been created. Open Signal line , bad power and ground results and its affects on the Crank Sensor Signal !!
I had metal chips from starter flywheel teeth accumulate on a magnetic crank sensor of a CAT diesel .
Dealership spent days on it..$$$ no fix
I found this issue by luck cleaned it off engine perfect no parts needed.
ABS wheel sensor also get metal chips setting code.
Excellent work Thanks
Amazing that it took so much time getting to sliding the crank sensor in one millimeter. Nice lesson getting to the root of the issue.
parts changers is why i am a DIYer for 40plus years. great vidoes keep it up.
i would pay anything to have such a mechanic like danner.
Perfect diagram explanation. Thanks Paul.
Just rewatched this video again. When I paid attention to why the excessive air gap became a problem as the car warmed up I remembered that as steel warms up it loses magnetism. Blacksmiths will use magnets on steel to gage the temps of the metal. Hotter steel is less magnetic than cold steel.
So thankful I found your channel a couple years ago. I watch your stuff all the time one to keep stuff fresh but to learn and to play game of can I guess what it is before you show it lol keeps it interesting but also allows me to test my knowledge
Scanner danner is so right. I have been a automotive tech for a little under a decade now and I have seen so many techs read scanner then replace a sensor or part. Which may work some of the time or hell even work quite a bit. But then when they replace the sensor based off the scan tool code and it didn’t fix the issue they become clueless on what to do and spend hours and hours trying to figure it out. Of course not all techs are like that and I have worked with some amazing technicians but man there’s a lot of part changers in the automotive world.
Please, don't miss us all that time because we miss you so much.
Thank you very much for what you do for us
Thank you for showing that diagram and taking the time as well, the two words you printed with "Shorted signal" got me to understand what you meant with an open in the wire.
Because my mind was stuck on the fact that open / break in wire = short circuit or intermittent short circuit, and that would pull it down in your case.
But when you said open as in missing and no short, it all clicked in, thank you for taking that extra time.
And here I am, as a guy that DOESN'T diagnose or fix cars, but I do enjoy the detective work you do.
Awesome! Thank you
I love your stuff man keeps this stuff fresh in my head from school but I learn a lot in theory which is so help full. I’m a marine tech who owns my own business and I love how everything transfers over to any mechanic fields. I have diag so many issues off watching and learning from you. The knowledge that you put out there for feee invaluable to guys in the field. I tell all the guys I’m getting into this field to watch your stuff and subscribe
Thank you!
Paul thanks for all the video's l am 43 years old looking to y back to wrenching on cars your channel has helped me tremendously love how you explain things keep it going 👍
Great to hear! Thank you!
The editing on these videos is really good. That before and after shot of the sensor placement was great. Good job Caleb!
Thank you!
Thank you for including the thought processing. Intro talk was perfect. Editing great job.
Thanks for recording all this- I am not a mechanic but i do know a lot about the cars and just today fixed my trottle body signal issue by using vida dice for Volvo i am Volvo guy- I honestly think that you are the most knowledgeable mechanic that i have seen on TH-cam by far and I have seen many many videos. Everything you say is based by facts and common sense if you know electronics.
GOOD JOB
Thank you
Thanks so much! Some people think I talk too much but those that truly understand, realize that I'm not wasting my breath on anything I'm talking about. Thanks for recognizing that. Props to you actually, for being so astute
I appreciate the in depth case study complete with you drawing and explaining the circuit.
Work PT for a part store, one of the larger ones... I’ll tell ya right now our store doesn’t push the parts like that. At least the older guys and our manager doesn’t. I personally tell the customer they don’t pay me enough to lie to them and I try sending them to some of the better shops we have around (I’m out the Allegheny). Honesty with the customer gets them to come back I’ve found, also.
Your videos are fantastic as always Paul, thanks.
The man, the myth, the legend! Wearing an awesome shirt, btw!
I think a GoFundMe account needs to be opened, so Paul can get a new hat. :-)
Buds so smart he makes his own words that work.
Paul, I appreciate the attention to details in your videos. Being a PGH'r myself, I was raised to fix my own vehicles from a young age. I think it is fantastic you are teaching us, and your children at the same time. The fact that you work the problem logically from Point A thru Point Z shows your dedication to finding the truth in a matter. While I have not been on your channel long, I am a fan. Keep up the quality work. Don't listen to the haters out there. Be true to yourself and your craft. No parts changed without a reason to do so, love it!
On a professional point - You have enough subscribers and post frequently enough, you need to work your Vendor relationships enough to possibly do free give a ways for things that the Vendor's donate to your channel. You do a review forJust a thought...
It is something I could do. But between running my Premium channel and this one, I'm out of time!! But I'll see what I can do to make that happen. Good suggestion. I just didn't want to get bogged down in tool reviews or giveaways. Can I do a giveaway without a review?? Do you see that being done? I don't want to do reviews
ScannerDanner - You’re using those tools, so the review is your trusting the tools enough to use them yourself. You already mention the names of the tools and put links in the reviews. No more is needed. Have your son help you to put the giveaways together. Have him coordinate the communications / emails. The give away itself only needs a couple min video where you call out the winners. Food for thought.
Thankful you're calling out those parts changers based on code scans
👍 You make me want to be a mechanic. Love everything you post and hang on every word you say. This is by far one of my favorite channels! Thanks for sharing.
What a brilliant case study, complete with a car that was willing enough to tease us on camera, ha ha ha ha.
Nothing beats logics,nothing beats approach. Combine the the 2,get you the right results,always.
Thanks Matthew
How on earth can there be three dislikes ???? Wake up ! This guy is worth listening to !!!!
Thanks man
Great video, I drive 2hrs to work and watch your videos for the past 6 months, I learn alot from your thinking process and after watching you drinking my coffee I can already guess your direction, again thanks will be getting on your premium sense I ran out of videos to watch haha
Thank you my friend! About 435 videos and counting on the premium channel. I look forward to hearing from you there!
Danner I can't get enough the your training skills.... I'm addicted what's can I say...
Love this Rocky Nix! Thank you! And for guys like you who truly want it? The info is there. Not many of us out there my friend. Looking forward to watching your journey.
Thanks for the lesson. I'm a diy'er and I'm always learning new things. Keep up the great content.
Hey mate! Great informative content! I quite enjoy how in depth you go with explaining everything in detail and actually wanting to teach viewers. Best channel on TH-cam in my opinion!
Damn ,this man is an absolute beast with his diagnosis!!! I have fixed my electrical problems on my van 3 times when 3 mechanics missed it!!! iM NOT EVEN A MECHANiCLOL
Great Video Paul!
On a side note here's a resource for those who want to register and look the information up. It gives access to TSB's & Wiring diagrams.
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There's also other resource information there in regards to some videos as well.
Outstanding methodology and followup. One thing you might also consider is that as the hall effect sensor air gap is varied it will also affect engine ignition timing. Thank you.
Great video. I appreciate all the videos you have posted. I have learn a lot from them and make this career more exciting for me. Thanks!
Good stuff Professor, it's late and we gotta clean the church tomorrow and then go back for the service, so I will come back for the second half.
Happy Motoring.
Hey Paul, I found you a few months ago, and since then I've watched every one of the videos on this channel. It's content like no other. Clear, understandable, and stuffed with priceless information. My question to you, is as you prepare techs to have the knowledge and experience to get the job done quickly and competently, what about your business model? No, not the TH-cam or Rosedale stuff, but your fee for service diagnostics business. For an aspiring diagnostic technician such as my self, who should be the clientele focus? Used car lots, or the DIY home mechanic who just wants to know what part to swap? What kind of price points should you set? How do you market? I think there's another whole world of video content that could be produced for the benefit of your more self-starter viewers. I apologize if any of this is covered in your premium channel, I just wanted to watch this channel in it's entirety before I subscribe to the other. (Expect me there soon!).
It absolutely is covered and not just Premium, I've talked about that here so many times. Keep watching my friend! To much to type here now. Thanks so much!
Hey man.I LOVE the rant at 32.00 min -33.45. !! Spot on .To many garages do the excact thing...and perform a repair by reading faultcodes.Not to mention on all forums around the world..and on facebook groups..All the DIY"ers that have "recently " got their scantool...thinking that a scantool will save them alot of money from not having to go to a "garage" to get a proper diagnosis done.It is sad to see.But hopefully the art of ..and knowledge about diagnosing a car...will soon be abit more respected by the average joe in the street.Anyways..enough about my rant.Thank you for superb videos again.Greetings from Norway ,Stefan K :)
thank you Stefan! I actually took this exact rant and posted it on my Facebook page :-)
@@ScannerDanner hehehe that is awesome :) Guess that is a long time ago then ..havent seen that lately though..as i am on your friendslist.Anyways..that is super cool that you did..cause it is SOO true :) I hope you are doing good man.Greetings ,Stefan
gracias eres un excelente profesor bastante comprometido, son bastantes generosos al compartir su tiempo y conocimientos.
aunque no entiendo mucho el inglés pero, gracias a que esta profesión es universal y el trabajo de edición es excelente hace mas fácil comprenderlo. pronto estaré en el canal premium para no ser un CAMBIA PARTES saludos Paul
Great case study Paul! Thanks for all you do for us! 👍
Thank you Nick!
Thanks for all the fantastic work you put into this industry
Like the great Dave Decourcey would’ve said about checking inputs “Gahbage in Gahbage out” 😂. R.I.P. Dave. Loved that guys seminars. He was an entertaining character.
Thanks for sticking to the problem! Nice Job! Sounds better too!
Scanner Danner you are good. Thank you for all the knowledge you are teaching us. 😊
Thanks a lot, for all this information, for your time to us SD.
Talk Danner, talk as much as you like. We listening. Talk more if you like. still listening.
Glad I stumbled across your channel today. I have been out of the diagnostic loop/training since 2003. I am just now getting back to work and will be signing up on premium to help me get caught up. Thank-you for what you are doing.
Thank you Trev! I promise you will not be disappointed. Look forward to hearing about your success story in a year
Very intelligent man I've just recently joined the premium account and got the book loving it loads of information I'm hooked
Thank you so much!
Great work Paul. Love how you don’t even need a wiring diagram to get cam and crank 😂 your the man and love the videos!!
Shows my age and my prime doesn't it? Lol thanks my friend.
ScannerDanner just shows your amount of knowledge you have retained over the years. It’s amazing to be honest.
I still love this field man and I love to figure stuff out, even on unfamiliar systems. It really is a process that is learned and continuously applied. I'm definitely behind the curve because of video now, but I'm okay with that. Everyone can just learn with me right?
ScannerDanner your still educating daily that I don’t think you completely understand! New techs or seasoned ones, can pay tribute to what you have pioneered for our industry.
Thank you so much for providing this free your timing effort is well appreciated
Good video and good advice. I had a customer this week I could hear the car was down on two cylinders pluged into it code for cam sensor and egr.Did my SD test light test on wast spark system. Week spark on one coil and ol on one of the spark plug leeds made customer aware that the other codes were Seprat issue's. Got payed for an easy fix no problem. Thank you.
Nice job! And way to fix the problem at hand
Freaking love this dude "if your bored you don't belong here, turn the channel!"
That's the way I like scanner Danner chanel your the best for me and You've gave me more idea about automotive troubleshooting. Thank you so much sir!
Glad to help1 Thank yoiu
I love you SD guy, for your help, your time, I barely subscribed to your Premium Channel.
Fantastic video shots with the inspection scope camera!
Enjoy your teaching message and appreciate it you do not talk enough thank you again
I appreciate that
In regards to the "Parts Changer" deal I did pull a Scannerdanner and change a part based on the Code with some of the data from the scan tool with minimal testing. This was based off a Chevy Pickup you did based off of the data because you didn't want to get on the ground with the gravel which I wouldn't want to either.
It was a P0135 for the B1 O2 UPSTREAM Sensor heater.
I checked the fuse, yes there's fuses as some people don't think there is. Fuses were good. What really led me to the sensor direction was the other 3 sensors had Appx. .54 amp except the bank 1 sensor 1.
I also checked the ohms on the sensor which the wiring color for Shopkey Pro was off whether front or back probing. Tested the ohms but had to try a few different wiring probe combinations and when I did get the ohm reading it started low and went high but it went above the allowed specs per the test.
Tested the new Denso O2 sensor by poking thru the plastic it came wrapped in as I don't open products if I can probe and test them thru the bag for resistance readings and the like because as we all know parts houses aren't keen on people returning electrical parts that have been opened.
Now onto the knock sensors that I've been putting off to long.
Well said sir "use the codes for guidance" it's absolutely true even I also faced that many times this why I tuning to your channel. Each and every video there is an take away that helps me a lot in diagnosing as well as in knowledge perspective. thank you sir I am expecting more and more from you sir keep instructing us with more information like this👍👍👍
thank you my friend
Very well explained. Grest diagnosis. Love learning with the Danner way
Just to simulate the true Danner Clan shop experience, i paused the video for 30 minutes and twiddled my thumbs waiting for the car to act up.
Excellent Diagnosis Paul keep up the great work
This is my car, & I'm amazed by how well its running! I'm at 1k miles post engine swap and Loving the ride! Thanks brother. # VERY Happy customer.👍😉
Crazy how small of an adjustment fixed it huh?
Love your user name btw
@@ScannerDanner Awe, thanks bro!👍 Ya, I Needed a name to reflect my solid views on life...Gotta have Love & show love :) Especially to the unlovable, therein lies the supernaturally awesome part, by grace, in foregiveness, that God's shown us all at 1 point. Nobody's ever complimented on it, & it means a lot 2 me, gratzi brother!
@@ScannerDanner IKR . Getting ready 4 my next trip....I can't drive it enough!
@@supernaturalfaith9255 I have it too my friend. Faith is a super natural gift and it is not given to everyone. My entire family, including my brothers family, we are all followers of Christ ( the name Christian has been weakened over the years)
Awesome experience u an d your Family are a magnificent team agree if you get board go elsewhere I am older tech and retraining this is invaluable cheers
outstanding videos every time I watch, A+
I have a friend relies totally on scan code no diagnostics. Just throw a part. He threw a bunch of parts at his son's ION. Ignition module injectors etc. Finally asked me to look at it. First Blown head gasket leaks in to coolant system and exhaust. Second his complaint was crank no start. Check cam crank and found timing was off. When I pulled the head for the gasket. Found the timing chain guides completely fell a part and the chain was sloppy. New timing set and re did the head. Car runs great. Like you said don't throw parts diagnose!
Than you for another good teaching material
This is great stuff Paul !!! I am a member of scannerdanner premium for a week now and enjoing everyy second of it ...I also purchased your book..i am in chapter 1 and the great thing about it is that i understand 100 % of what you are trying to teach us..it all makes sence, I have a little bit of automotive background but man you really opened my mind up..Thanks
this is awesome! Thank you so much
Exelent diagnosis I’m not sure if anyone else commented on this , one thing you didn’t mention since the engine was replaced it could be damage to the flywheel . Although that would be a more constant miss. I remember reading an article about a Jeep that had a constant miss and the Jeep had been to several garages and it had had a engine replaced and after many stick mechanics throwing many parts at it to see what would stick, finally they found a small damage to the flywheel that they could see with the pico . Anyway I love watching the automotive detective csi videos.
For sure, that would be constant and have the same dropouts in the signal every rotation of the flywheel. I have seen what you are describing as well. Thanks!
Your right SD. It's about the money. Charge for reading codes. Then get approval to diagnose the cause of the code, if the problem even threw a code. And the customer thinks by reading the codes a technician should know exactly what it will take to fix it. And you know many times it doesn't work that way. And depending on the vehicle, issue,and the customer the technician catches crap from both sides. The customer says "more time?". And the owner of the shop doesn't have a clue about a scan tool, data ,or turning a wrench says " you haven't figured it out yet" or " your spent to much time not to know what is wrong with it" or You lost a job. Where is the happy medium?
Lack of communication and knowledge of what it takes to get the proper repair the first time takes practice, and knowledge of so many different elements of the whole equation. And the technicians are the ones that catch all the BS. Sorry for my language! But Damn I just want to fix vehicles right the first time and get it done for the customers for the right price so everyone profits!
The key to make all of this work, because it absolutely can, is to be making the right calls on your diagnostic work. So it begins with you and it sounds like to me that you are already on it! Stay the course my friend. How long have you been focused on diagnostic work?
You deduct in the process of coming to a conclusion. We deduce in the the conclusion. You guys had me lmao at that part.
Many thanks family Danner a big hug from Spain
Thanks the brothers Danner, I like works the Jeep, Chrysler, Dodge, the air gap is very important in engine 2.5 L, 3.3 L, 3.8 L, 4.0 L but the C.K.P sensors are ajustable. The original sensor have the cardboard to calibrate the air gap. Thanks for the class.
Hi! I am a mechanic in the Philippines from Moalboal Cebu , I always look on your you tube chanel and I learn a lot of knowledge about electrical problems. I personally thank you about what you are doing, helping people by showing your knowledge about how to solve problem on electrical issues. Maybe I can ask a small help from you if you have an old scanner or electrical tool that you can give me. It will be a very big help for me and .y family.
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Paul, yep this definitely adds clarification, thanks. I'm going in as soon as she cools. Hopefully have an answer late today, definitely tomorrow.
This was about the adjustment you asked me about right?
How'd you like that camera shot of the adjustment? 🙂
Nothing short of Herculean given I'll go in there with a blind eye feeling my way to nirvana! Getting ready to take the dive; should have it b4 sunrise.
Well, didn't move far enough out. Started and ran perfectly for 15 minutes, then let it idle for 10 min. when it started to miss again. Heat causing expansion causing miss. Needs to cool off then I'm back in, moving out 1/8".
Reattached felt spacer using post-it note cutout to old sensor; installed, bingo, back in service. I think new sensor is faulty. I thought old sensor was bad when it was really my distributor. Returning part, $50 win, win, win. Thanks for both vids and replies. I hope you have students following well in your footsteps. Happy camper here.
@@megasonify4800 awesome, thanks for the update. Also I can see the new sensor failing especially because it was hitting the flywheel previously
26:11 High-low, high-low, it's off to Danner's we go!
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Waiting as always best in automotive technician
Thank you for the class and thank you Caleb for the great footage!
Spot on scanner danner, 10 out of ten.
The best channel on you tube.thaks for all your videos
Eight thumbs down - that's stricly Bravo Sierra. Great video, and I, as do others, find your approach to be very educational and honest. When you pronounced the air gap to be too tight @ minute 24, I was not surprised to hear you reverse yourself @ minute 59, because, as you mentioned, no metal to metal "interaction" would result in the signal not being pulled down. Keep up the great work.
Can't please everyone right? Thanks my friend
Chad Jessup i was pleased
Thank you Danners cubed. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week.
Because of the gap being so important for the proper functioning, this Mitsubishi car brand make should have manufactured a proper mounting and fastening assembly for this Crank Sensor , so that it would be installed and seated at the correct position and distance , so as the air_ gap would be proper.