***** Haha, wel, without any customs that's the only way to win a race tbh.. But eh, I saw that guy racing yesterday, and I think you got a serious competitor man ;)
+Tristan Hoekstra I always turn it off if I am hosting, however if I do not have the power to do so, try to stay in a close second place and steal the win at the very end. I win almost every time I do that (occasionally it doesn't work though)
the use of graphs was very well done and helped to understand the explanation much more easily! I'm glad to see the return of the fact finding series, hope to see more episodes soon!
Because youtube is flooded with annoying, squeeky, rubbish youtubers pumping out an endless plethora of nonsense content for the hordes of kids drawn to bright colours and flashing lights, who, unfortunately make up the majority of youtube viewers/subcribers. The better content producers like Broughy get overlooked sadly, on account of his videos having actual entertainment value along with useful and well presented information... Oh and a severe lack of hysterical fake laughing for no reason. OK, rant over. Nice video Broughy, ty dude.
Ooh, a graph. I find it interesting too. Dominator was my first personal vehicle so in time I kinda had to think hard about wheelspin and mind the accelerator because that thing really makes it obvious how detrimental full throttle can be, and not even just for starts of races but some turns too.
You have taught me so much about driving on GTA. I was already quite good as I already knew about wheel spin and the apex of turns, throttle control during turns, and smooth turning. Everything has gotten fine tuned and improved, and now I am even more skilled of a driver because of you. Also, I have found that some cars have two mid drive boosts that are usable one after the other, one as you shift into 2nd and another while shifting into 3rd. This double mid boost seems to be rare, very rare. I should lay off helicopters and start driving again to further test this.
I know this is old and you probably don’t play gta anymore but what cars can you double mid drive speed boost with? When I try it it works the first time but then the second time it just stalls the car as if you missed a gear
Seriously man, I play this game for nearly 2 years and after finding your channel I feel like a noob who dont knows anything about GTA and i had already 300~ races before finding your channel xD
Great graphs! I was interested about this because I saw it on some videos, but I didn't know exactly what the 'L2 Brake Method' was exactly, this helped me a lot!
I was using throttle control in GTAIV, super boost since the first month of GTAV and handbrake+ throttle control and the downshift boost for freemode situations, yet i never knew the regular brake method was actually quicker that the handbrake. Even now i can still learn something new about racing. Good job with all this testing Broughy. Oh yea, almost forgot.... Graphs
For race starts with a timer, I use the super boost, but with throttle control during the count-down. I don't really know how it compares to the methods mentioned in this video, but if timer and actual race start are out of sync (which happens more often than not) and you miss the boost, this ensures that you don't end up in the red area of the graph - with wheelspin, the worst of all starts.
Ahh that explains everything. I mean I've always used the 'super boost' without realising it was that much better. But the event start explains my bad starts. I've only ever had one amazing start where I passed 5 racers on the start. But yeah, thanks for the vid. Time to put it into practice.
Quite interesting, especially the graphs. Though memorizing the best point for a non-race start for thirty different vehicles will likely be slightly troublesome.
***** another great video man!! Thanks for sharing your GTA5 racing knowledge with us.. can't wait for your racing results for "ill gotten gains part 2.."
In no.8 please could you a video on how acceleration works like with top speed when you used the graph. Great video by the way someone who knows what there talking about
Thanks for this! I would always use the handbrake + throttle control method when drag racing or in a cheeky little event with my friends, but I never knew about the regular brake method. Now I have something to use to get ahead of the pack hue hue
Been smoking people off the line for months now, using the handbrake method. No need to change for me, but it is good to know there is a slightly quicker way now as well. Now you need to hop on pCars and do this exact same video over there ;) GRAPHS!
I love your videos and i'm trying to implement the tips in my own driving. Recently i joined the crew and downloaded some of your circuits to race on against friends, and i noticed that the stock ill gotten gains vehicles aren't available on north loop (my favorite at the moment). I hope you will update your tracks to let me and the community get most out of the tracks.
Broughy1322 I have a question about double clutching in GTA? As this also improve acceleration but is vary on some vehicle ,but is more oblivious in the banche. Great video thought, I wonder if you can post a video about starting ethic so player don't have a pileup at the start of the race or in the first corner.
Anything for keyboard/digital gamepad key users? Any magic frequency of tapping the accelerator helping launches? My GTAV completely ignores my joystick calibration...
I found that some vehicles like the Bus or a big Truck benefits a lot from the handbrake launch, like the graph at 15:40 Even tho, after the nice launch, they lose all the power lol
***** On a more serious note, the graphs were very helpful. You're very good at explaining complex techniques and game mechanics in a simple way. When I watch one of your videos, I know I'm going to get accurate information and no nonsense.
Nice vid :D Would you think rain would affect any of the regular starts? Would that change the GRAPHS up any? Also if I do understand that graph, the one with the flat line (no wheelspin), whichever car that would be would not be able to do a burnout? The only 'vehicle' that comes to mind when that graph is involved is the Lawnmower (can't do a burnout). I haven't heard of any SUV that can't do a burnout, but maybe I'm completely off here and the car with the flat line graph CAN do a burnout, idk. Sorry if my comment confused you lol
Ishan826 Rain would shift everything to the left on all graphs, so wheelspin is achieved at lower levels of throttle application. Burnouts are a bit different since you purposefully lose grip first of all before doing it. I'm talking strictly about pulling away from the start line.
Is there any way to perform throttle control with a keyboard? I don't have a controller, so some combination of pressing and releasing keys is usually what lets me drive well, I wonder if it's possible. Here's a graph. | / | / | / |___/_____
Here's an interesting philosophy for you: just because you (that's a general "you") are good at something doesn't necessarily mean you enjoy it. My example? Reading graphs and other math problems.
topgeartim I call it the downshift boost, because thats a more correct term as dropping down from 2nd to 1st isn't really a midway point in the transmission for most cars, all you are really doing is dropping a gear which somehow gives you an unrealistic boost in gta. Id say its similar to a kickdown, but at the same time, nothing like it.
I believe the yellow zones on the graphs are a bit too big, I always tend to use the handbrake method and I never get wheel spin :) Nonetheless it was another great video, I am definitely going to try out the regular brake method
Broughy, I want you to test something, PeeCarNoo just uploaded a video about "How to land" and one of the AWD cars did something strange, it is the Entity, he landed the car on the rear axle which made it go faster than lading it on 4 wheels. He also tested it with the Osiris, now when this landed on its 4 wheels it went faster than landing on the rear, so does this prove that some cars have different load to their axle? For example the Osiris might have 50% to its front Axel and 50% to its rear, while the Entity might have 30% front and 70%
loved the graphs! this might be a long-shot, but i saw recently that there's a mod/script that lets people use a racing wheel and pedals in GTA. I guess im not sure if it works for online... but have you considered trying a wheel? i currently use mouse and keyboard, and while i do have a controller, a wheel seems more fun.
most mods need ScriptHook to work properly, and modding isn't allowed in Online nor on Project Homecoming, plus racing with a wheel in gta is just terrible
sometimes i see people in a normal race starting already when the timer shows 1 or 2, the "GO" doesnt appear (so you cant get the boost at the start), what to do here?
"Well here is a graph, don't be scared of that, i will explain it"
Legend!
Mogi The Gamer :D
Remember to use those horns to get that ultra boost.
Frezyys I know right. I can’t even hear the countdown beep because everyone is honking left and right. 😂
If only graphs in school were this good.
Raymo reaper :D :D :D
One day, some day, somewhere, somehow, you are going to say "FUCK-finding" series and we're not even going to notice it.
Who's to say he hasn't already done it in the past?
John Johnson I checked.
Gotta love that fucked finding.
I love watching my friends rage when I beat them again and again. Wouldn't be able to do it without your videos man. Graphs!
Daniel Arnold Glad to help! :)
Unfortunately EVERYONE keeps slipstream+catchup on...
Tristan Hoekstra Yeah I expect that's a problem BUN1T132 might run into quite often XD
***** Haha, wel, without any customs that's the only way to win a race tbh..
But eh, I saw that guy racing yesterday, and I think you got a serious competitor man ;)
brorleon It's based on a realistic thing. It is by no means realistic. The boost of speed you get is ridiculous.
If someone is using catchup and then slipstream on you it feels like you're driving a Volvo 550 and their driving an army jet..
+Tristan Hoekstra I always turn it off if I am hosting, however if I do not have the power to do so, try to stay in a close second place and steal the win at the very end. I win almost every time I do that (occasionally it doesn't work though)
U deserve a lot more subs man, ALOT, oh and nice graphs
Mohamed Ahmed Thanks man! :)
This was really in depth. You did well on the video, especially with the GRAPHS lol. In all seriousness, keep up the good work.
MrMegaMario64 Cheers! I'll do my best :)
the use of graphs was very well done and helped to understand the explanation much more easily! I'm glad to see the return of the fact finding series, hope to see more episodes soon!
Trunks7890 Thanks! :)
Thx Broughy, GRAPHS!
But why don't these videos have more views, they're very help full for GTA racers.?
I don't know myself haha
Because youtube is flooded with annoying, squeeky, rubbish youtubers pumping out an endless plethora of nonsense content for the hordes of kids drawn to bright colours and flashing lights, who, unfortunately make up the majority of youtube viewers/subcribers. The better content producers like Broughy get overlooked sadly, on account of his videos having actual entertainment value along with useful and well presented information... Oh and a severe lack of hysterical fake laughing for no reason. OK, rant over. Nice video Broughy, ty dude.
philosophiccreep It's sad but true, well get used to it I guess
Ooh, a graph.
I find it interesting too. Dominator was my first personal vehicle so in time I kinda had to think hard about wheelspin and mind the accelerator because that thing really makes it obvious how detrimental full throttle can be, and not even just for starts of races but some turns too.
Viper Bags Yep very true!
You have taught me so much about driving on GTA. I was already quite good as I already knew about wheel spin and the apex of turns, throttle control during turns, and smooth turning. Everything has gotten fine tuned and improved, and now I am even more skilled of a driver because of you. Also, I have found that some cars have two mid drive boosts that are usable one after the other, one as you shift into 2nd and another while shifting into 3rd. This double mid boost seems to be rare, very rare. I should lay off helicopters and start driving again to further test this.
I know this is old and you probably don’t play gta anymore but what cars can you double mid drive speed boost with? When I try it it works the first time but then the second time it just stalls the car as if you missed a gear
Seriously man, I play this game for nearly 2 years and after finding your channel I feel like a noob who dont knows anything about GTA and i had already 300~ races before finding your channel xD
Great graphs! I was interested about this because I saw it on some videos, but I didn't know exactly what the 'L2 Brake Method' was exactly, this helped me a lot!
You've done it this time, perfectly explaining how this mechanic works using graphs and through speech.
Jackson Weidner I try :) Cheers!
Love this graph finding series.. :D just a week ago, started with almost no wins, and now, I have two fully upgraded garages.. :) Thank you..
Mladen Petra Peric Haha nice, happy to help! :)
MrGraphsFTW
iTwisterr Classic XD
graphs all day lol. I didn't want to miss out on anything. I appreciate the vids man!
danner1620 You're very welcome :)
I was using throttle control in GTAIV, super boost since the first month of GTAV and handbrake+ throttle control and the downshift boost for freemode situations, yet i never knew the regular brake method was actually quicker that the handbrake. Even now i can still learn something new about racing. Good job with all this testing Broughy.
Oh yea, almost forgot....
Graphs
ChaotikSpraya86 Glad to help! :)
I love in depth charts and graphs. Well Done!
maxview99 Cheers! :)
For race starts with a timer, I use the super boost, but with throttle control during the count-down. I don't really know how it compares to the methods mentioned in this video, but if timer and actual race start are out of sync (which happens more often than not) and you miss the boost, this ensures that you don't end up in the red area of the graph - with wheelspin, the worst of all starts.
Pardonias Not a bad idea :)
GTA Fuck-finding . yes, i came from the stream XDDD
The for the help brough, I race all the time and I had no clue that the regular brake method was the best to use in a drag race.
Ahh that explains everything. I mean I've always used the 'super boost' without realising it was that much better. But the event start explains my bad starts. I've only ever had one amazing start where I passed 5 racers on the start. But yeah, thanks for the vid. Time to put it into practice.
Going backwards is the best way.
And graphs.
Nismo. I'm pretty sure using the gate glitch is the fastest way.
Giraffes
Nismo. I'll graph you up m9
***** I'll giraffe the fuck outa you, mate. Don't you dare touch my Nismo :kappa:
***** Fuck finding confirmed.
Thanks for reposting this info, I had just restarted after a break & was wondering..."now how was that fine again = )) Thank You !!
*done --> fine, lol predictive you type = P
Chris Vel Glad to help! :)
The GRAPHS were really helpful.
Thanks Broughy! :D
TheChromeLuxray Haha you're welcome :)
Very nice explained Broughy!
I also enjoyed the illustration with these graphs.
Keep the good work up!
And GRAPHS...
Very informative video, and i liked how you included the graph! :)
Jack Farnworth Thanks! :)
So many little details that just get overlooked. Thanks for putting in all the testing time. Also. Graphs! haha.
Ace Thanks man! :)
Graphy1322?
Grouphy1322
Quite interesting, especially the graphs.
Though memorizing the best point for a non-race start for thirty different vehicles will likely be slightly troublesome.
Really interesting stuff, especially the graphs!
***** another great video man!! Thanks for sharing your GTA5 racing knowledge with us.. can't wait for your racing results for "ill gotten gains part 2.."
v13forever Cheers! :)
Good video explained well
PeeCarNoo Cheers man :)
That was a nice GRAPH you used at the end! :)
:)
In no.8 please could you a video on how acceleration works like with top speed when you used the graph. Great video by the way someone who knows what there talking about
Very informative video about starts... And yes I saw the graphs.
josh Subet Good man! :)
dem graphs doe
The grenade method is hilarious for kick off haha
Thanks for this! I would always use the handbrake + throttle control method when drag racing or in a cheeky little event with my friends, but I never knew about the regular brake method. Now I have something to use to get ahead of the pack hue hue
EpicMeh Glad to help :)
This is definitely gonna help me to beat super cars in a drag race with my lawnmower!
axelvaneerden Truth
nice video bruh :D GRAPHS :3
:D
Been smoking people off the line for months now, using the handbrake method. No need to change for me, but it is good to know there is a slightly quicker way now as well.
Now you need to hop on pCars and do this exact same video over there ;)
GRAPHS!
Pundip haha I'll see what I can do XD
***** My starts are pretty poor so any tips (not including jumpstarts/timing the lights) would be good :)
I watched the full duration of all your videos from your Graph-Finding series and Graphing School Series
Graphs + Broughy = Professonal! *wink wink*
Graphs! Nice Man I thought I was on point with my hand brake starts but looky looky
I love your videos and i'm trying to implement the tips in my own driving. Recently i joined the crew and downloaded some of your circuits to race on against friends, and i noticed that the stock ill gotten gains vehicles aren't available on north loop (my favorite at the moment). I hope you will update your tracks to let me and the community get most out of the tracks.
MU71L473D Yeah I need to get around to updating them. Just an oversight since we all use upgraded cars these days. I'll do it after IGG2. Cheers! :)
Graphs fuct finding episode.
those graphs were very easy to understand. And i am serious... but im using a keyboard the last method will never work for me XD
Broughy1322 I have a question about double clutching in GTA? As this also improve acceleration but is vary on some vehicle ,but is more oblivious in the banche. Great video thought, I wonder if you can post a video about starting ethic so player don't have a pileup at the start of the race or in the first corner.
graphs are awesome bro
Ryan Jacobs ^This
Very interesting! You need all the extra help you can get i guess XD
Took 4 years but I made it to the end. 📈😎
Anything for keyboard/digital gamepad key users? Any magic frequency of tapping the accelerator helping launches? My GTAV completely ignores my joystick calibration...
Not really unfortunately. Controllers are the best when it comes to racing.
Look at all these graphs, graphtaciular
I tend to use the "GO" boost + mid drive speed boost aka downshift thing.
So many graphs. Wowe.
thanks for explaining :)
I like your graphs
Nice graph
Graphs definitely help.
I found that some vehicles like the Bus or a big Truck benefits a lot from the handbrake launch, like the graph at 15:40
Even tho, after the nice launch, they lose all the power lol
Alessandro Antonetti Yeah they don't have much power at all XD
*****
Man, when are you going to upload the Fastest Emergency Vehicles?
Alessandro Antonetti Well it's going to be a week later than it ordinarily would've been due to IGG part 2
*****
Ah damn lol.. Looking forward for that series too btw.
Have a good day man!
Nice graphs.
I love graphs.
***** On a more serious note, the graphs were very helpful. You're very good at explaining complex techniques and game mechanics in a simple way. When I watch one of your videos, I know I'm going to get accurate information and no nonsense.
Nice vid :D
Would you think rain would affect any of the regular starts?
Would that change the GRAPHS up any?
Also if I do understand that graph, the one with the flat line (no wheelspin), whichever car that would be would not be able to do a burnout? The only 'vehicle' that comes to mind when that graph is involved is the Lawnmower (can't do a burnout).
I haven't heard of any SUV that can't do a burnout, but maybe I'm completely off here and the car with the flat line graph CAN do a burnout, idk.
Sorry if my comment confused you lol
Ishan826 Rain would shift everything to the left on all graphs, so wheelspin is achieved at lower levels of throttle application. Burnouts are a bit different since you purposefully lose grip first of all before doing it. I'm talking strictly about pulling away from the start line.
Is there any way to perform throttle control with a keyboard? I don't have a controller, so some combination of pressing and releasing keys is usually what lets me drive well, I wonder if it's possible.
Here's a graph.
| /
| /
| /
|___/_____
Very hard with a keyboard I'd have to say
A car withrout wheelspin.. A big SUV? The only car I can think off is the Surfer. It's cool like that
Here's an interesting philosophy for you: just because you (that's a general "you") are good at something doesn't necessarily mean you enjoy it. My example? Reading graphs and other math problems.
Why didn't you cover the "double clutch" method?
He did. He calls it the mid drive speed boost because "double clutch" is not the proper term.
MrFreeze2244 Watch episode 6
***** ayy broughy! I havent been commenting lately but rest assured ive been watching your videos!
topgeartim Cheers! As long as you're watching I'm happy! :)
topgeartim I call it the downshift boost, because thats a more correct term as dropping down from 2nd to 1st isn't really a midway point in the transmission for most cars, all you are really doing is dropping a gear which somehow gives you an unrealistic boost in gta. Id say its similar to a kickdown, but at the same time, nothing like it.
Dem GRAPHS doe... Yes i stayed till the end.
topgeartim GG :)
Would throttle control be helpful even if you get the boost? I've noticed that there's always some wheel spin during the boost.
***** ^this guy knows
I believe the yellow zones on the graphs are a bit too big, I always tend to use the handbrake method and I never get wheel spin :) Nonetheless it was another great video, I am definitely going to try out the regular brake method
Broughy, I want you to test something, PeeCarNoo just uploaded a video about "How to land" and one of the AWD cars did something strange, it is the Entity, he landed the car on the rear axle which made it go faster than lading it on 4 wheels. He also tested it with the Osiris, now when this landed on its 4 wheels it went faster than landing on the rear, so does this prove that some cars have different load to their axle? For example the Osiris might have 50% to its front Axel and 50% to its rear, while the Entity might have 30% front and 70%
TheThunderPlug NYC Yeah could be a weight distribution thing
This method is kinda like starting a car with a clutch. Find the right balance, not more throttle, not less...
If you are on the current gen go in first person and use the speedometer for the banshee is best to launch at 5-6 k rpm
loved the graphs! this might be a long-shot, but i saw recently that there's a mod/script that lets people use a racing wheel and pedals in GTA. I guess im not sure if it works for online... but have you considered trying a wheel? i currently use mouse and keyboard, and while i do have a controller, a wheel seems more fun.
most mods need ScriptHook to work properly, and modding isn't allowed in Online nor on Project Homecoming, plus racing with a wheel in gta is just terrible
@@DiNmiTe i mean... i see people modding all the time in Online
@@senor135 doesn't mean it's allowed or broughy should do it
@@DiNmiTe for testing for fun? pretty harmless. im not trying to give him an edge, i just think it would be cool to try.
My chromed out soccer mom van is so baller it can't do a burnout :) fully upgraded awesomeness
lmaooo
Lol, i used to have that minivan and noticed that too.
I have found my favourite paraGRAPH in my book
what about super boosting then brake boosting secind gear?
My favorite animal is the one with the long neck, pretty sure they're called graphs.
nice graphs bro ;)
:D
Does more traction = more speed? I noticed that some spoilers give more traction.
Skywarp Channel More traction = higher cornering speed when pushed to the limits. You always need a spoiler. See episode 6 of this series.
I've heard that tuner wheels give less traction and sorts gives more yet I don't know about the rest can you help with that?
Sammy Dejesus All wheels give the same traction, but they perform differently over bumps: th-cam.com/video/d0kDIRrxgIA/w-d-xo.html
***** Those techniques to start will be super useful if the PC crew can manage to get our own Multi Class Endurance race set up. Also GRAPHS!
How do you do throttle control on PC? On the keyboard, well, of course there is no such thing as holding a key down slightly without it using it all.
You can't. Most people will race with a controller
+Broughy1322 So i hve to rely on double clutch/ mid drive speed boost?
The Amazing Tenno Ash Well in all honesty if you're wanting to race properly enough for things like this to matter you're going to need a controller.
+Broughy1322 Personally i love the way that the keyboard controls the car. Most cars I use have minimal wheelspin other than my sabre turbo
I like graphs
dank graphs, breh
Graphs are awesome
:D
using these techniques my unbeateable racing futo needs every 3 races a new clutch. no homo!
I'm gonna GRAPH how many wins I get using this knowledge.
The Super Boost doesn’t work..the boost will not activate for me if there’s any engine power running besides idling...
Use neon lights to gain 100 horsepower. Also Graphs
does armor affect the car's weight?
drycrazyhi No
Did you really say links save lives -.-
Graph.
I think it's cool when you use graphs. Makes it more scientific I guess which isn't a bad thing.
#BroughyTheMadScientist
Mighty Quinn Broughy the mad scientist. Classic XD
sometimes i see people in a normal race starting already when the timer shows 1 or 2, the "GO" doesnt appear (so you cant get the boost at the start), what to do here?
My Black Minds Not a lot you can do since it's just a glitch.
I combine the second method with super boost. Would that work?
BinaryGreen Throttle control can help when using the super boost too yes
Thanks!
I made it to the end
graphs ftw