I think the reason these guys had 80 accuracies is because you are forcing them to make a lot of only moves or very logical easy to see defending moves. All it takes is a couple inaccuracies and you exploit it the rest of the game. Also I find your thinking out loud commentary very beneficial as a 1300. Even when I was 800 a couple years ago I find your explanations and reasoning very easy to follow and relatable. You definitely got a good sense of reality and good at teaching. You are the type that could have success teaching anything not just chess
Great video I learned some tactics! The thing with the 80% accuracy is when you are beating people up and basically forcing moves on them, it’s ‘the best move’ so their accuracy goes up. Like your neat checkmate at the very end. Those were forced, and also the best moves upping their accuracy. I’m not really highly rated but I play a friend of mine. That’s 500 elo below me minimum, and she gets like 75%-80% on games against me, yet against her same strength players she gets like 55%-70%. Anyway fun video as always thanks! Have a great day everyone! :)?
It's still amusing to watch him run over them over and over again You'll see him stumble with the occasional draw or loss pretty soon, maybe even next video Some "800"'s are actually 2000+ rated players who just got started
@@DanielSong39 it happens rarely like REALLY rarely. I think there might be less than 1 in 100-200 thousand chance to match someone genius who started out just few days ago per 1 try edit: someone using cheat engine is much more probably to happen
In my experience 500 700 has been playing really well. They doesnt see many tactics, but they know very well the principles. I believe channels like yours have been very instructive.
Nelson - I'm watching a lot of your tutorials. You're very concise and to the point without wild wacky gestures and getting off point. You don't ramble or hem/haw something I find irksome in young adults. I'm retired and like to stay busy so why not learn CHESS ? I always have 2 different sites open so I can hop back and forth and I keep a chess notepad file and fill it in with things you say to watch for and be aware of. Some one on her said you' d make a great teacher - and not just this discipline. Thanks !
Just clambered back above 1000 after dropping back down to ~950 for awhile. Still finding watching the lower ratings games helpful and interesting to watch.
i have a challenge play against martin but replace the selected piece every 3 move by spinning a wheel choosing what to select and to replace it with which piece pawns can promote and pawns on 1st rank have the same condition as the pawn on2nd rank GOOD LUCK!
Wow fantastic! 1700 is no small feat! I’d assume it gets exponentially harder as you go up. Going up like 50 elo now is probably close to as hard as gaining 300 if you we’re an 800. Shoot at 300 you’d be a 2000. I’m like 500 below you though so don’t listen to me haha. Again well done my friend
Congrats, yeah I'm at 1600 and face the same issue, if you wanna get better from that point on you have to do more than you did in the past. Tactics are getting sharper, people know theory and stop blundering more obvious stuff. Imo identifying your weaknesses and strengths compared to other players of your rating is the first thing you have to figure out and then you see how much time and energy you wanna invest in getting better. If you're below average on tactics doing more puzzles will help eventually, if you don't know as much theory just study openings and/or endgames. Hope any of this helps you ❤
At 26:18 if you took the black pawn with the bishop first, when black recaptures with his bishop you could then recapture his bishop and pawn with your pawn forking the rook and queen. Yes he could try to move away but it would cause a lot of trouble and disruption making him try to save 2 pieces.
Q: If checkmate is delivered using a rook, a bishop and a pawn. Is there any advantage to determining that the mate was a 9 point win ? ( r 5+ b 3+ p 1 ) Or would that be purely a statistical interest? The mating patterns could be quantified. Average win could be 7.5 , but the avg loss may be 8.25. It may show something ???
@@satgurs I'm 1500 There's no way he's going to lose to less than 1900 even with this rating range the chances of them winning are very slim to non-existent
Opponent: “This guy is already wasting all his time, I must be destroying this dude right now.” Nelson: “So there’s 11 different ways I can obliterate my opponent here. This move would be checkmate, but is there anything better.”
The reason they play well is because they see themselves as being rated higher than you and therefore think they are better than you. The placebo effect
At about 4:30 mark- I can tell you for a fact that at 600 rated chess, if you had pushed the E pawn, the opponent would have taken it with the queen thinking it was a free pawn.
As far as 500-600 playing better then rated, I don't know. I'm currently in that range. I had 2 games with 90%, 1 was 70%. (Recently) Some days I'm not in in but sometimes I'm destroying. I can beat bots at about 1300-1400. I've also had game review score me 1500-2000+ at times so.... don't know. I'm thinking something is off.
Honestly the estimate overshoots by like 500 points. Site thinks I played like a 2200 when I'm only 1550 in rapid. It was a very short game though (23 moves)
@todddalton4579 still means I should be in 1000-1500 not 500-600. I think a lot of higher ratings somehow got stuck at low elos lol think their algorithm might be off
@@shaggysunshine7441 There's no "algorithm". The only system is the elo rating system, which isn't faulty unless you've only played like 0-20 games. This particular system functions using a mathematical formula. As Todd said, the game evaluation often overshoots, but even if not, it only evaluates your one game performance.
As the player base in chess gets better all around, all players end up playing better, which makes it so that accuracy goes up for lower ratings. It's especially noticeable at the mid ranges. We've seen this in Fight Games for years, where when a game first releases all ranks, even top ranks, make a lot of mistakes, and after five years or so the top players are almost perfect in their plans and execution. This is the same story, just with general audience education being the primary driving factor instead of raw time limiting people's experience with the game. So as more good chess educators make good chess training and strategy available to more people, lower rated players will objectively perform better and people in the mid range who do not improve will see a drop in their personal rating.
I'm stuck at 1040 to 1050 elo, playing A.I. chess factory app, they changed it a decade ago and it seems alot harder than it was, almost like the levels don't add up to the ratings, and A.I. is soulless so it mates me as fast as it can,lol
The opponents are getting better, to the point where I think Chess Vibes would lose the majority of games with queen odds and would have a real challenge even with rook odds Against
Yeah i think because a lot of instructive chess content is out there on yt people now at 500 are better than 500's a couple years ago. How much better idk, but i think there's a difference compared to the past.
In the last game around 40:25 was Bxf7+ an option after black played Rc8? It forks the queen on g6 and if black takes with the rook you have Rxc8+ followed by Qxh3 🤔
at 38:00 in game 4 did you consider bishop d5? it attacks the rook and the knight can't take it because of the pin on the queen. I may be missing something there but it was unexpected to not hear you talk through it as an idea at least
I can't find the continuation of this video. Seems they aren't uploaded serially. Please can you clarify or share me a link to the next Appreciate you man
These 600s are 1400s that create new accounts to beat up on people. But then they end up playing the other 1400s who have also sandbagged a new account.
I guess with accuracy it doesn’t necessarily represent the complexity of a game. Some games seem to follow more obvious routes after say a mistake where one side loses a piece early, and then a bunch of trades happen. I’ve noticed when reviewing my own games that even if I’m down material the engine often gives the stamp of approval to trading pieces. Whereas other games can be so labyrinthian to navigate, like walking a tight rope where there are bad moves and blunders all over the place, with few good moves available to hunt down. I must admit though a few of these players have played very very well, but one or two do make me a little suspicious. Will be interesting to see if any accounts get closed later. Maybe it’s just the numbering system implying the skill gaps are bigger than the reality. Scary thought.
35:13 if they move the king and you take the rook with the queen thats mate is it not? He played the game about as well as he could have other than not pressuring you in the beginning allowing you to set up and ruining pawn structure
At 40:00... did you overlook bxf7! ? Looks like you will force his queen to take, which gives a queen a bishop and pawn for a bishop and rook. He might even blunder and lose more 39:59
Like your channell mostly. But I have an idea how you won 56 games in a row. It was by playing under an assumed identity with a rating 1/4 of your real rating. That is a pretty sure fire way to get a winning record
I think the reason these guys had 80 accuracies is because you are forcing them to make a lot of only moves or very logical easy to see defending moves. All it takes is a couple inaccuracies and you exploit it the rest of the game. Also I find your thinking out loud commentary very beneficial as a 1300. Even when I was 800 a couple years ago I find your explanations and reasoning very easy to follow and relatable. You definitely got a good sense of reality and good at teaching. You are the type that could have success teaching anything not just chess
Appreciate that!
I feel like with this series Nelson is becoming the Bob Ross of Chess! Also if I’ve gained any elo this week it’s because of these vids!
Great video I learned some tactics! The thing with the 80% accuracy is when you are beating people up and basically forcing moves on them, it’s ‘the best move’ so their accuracy goes up. Like your neat checkmate at the very end. Those were forced, and also the best moves upping their accuracy. I’m not really highly rated but I play a friend of mine. That’s 500 elo below me minimum, and she gets like 75%-80% on games against me, yet against her same strength players she gets like 55%-70%.
Anyway fun video as always thanks!
Have a great day everyone! :)?
How to win 56 in a row? Be leagues ahead of them in elo
It's still amusing to watch him run over them over and over again
You'll see him stumble with the occasional draw or loss pretty soon, maybe even next video
Some "800"'s are actually 2000+ rated players who just got started
@@DanielSong39 it happens rarely like REALLY rarely. I think there might be less than 1 in 100-200 thousand chance to match someone genius who started out just few days ago per 1 try
edit: someone using cheat engine is much more probably to happen
He'll start to find cheaters at 1900
@@Tocinos how would cheaters even get to 1900 before creating 47 alternative accounts?
Yes “how”, he explains every move.
Hey Nelson, don't rush to the higher ratings. The Chess learning is still very useful (not obvious) for us
In my experience 500 700 has been playing really well. They doesnt see many tactics, but they know very well the principles.
I believe channels like yours have been very instructive.
1:35 Brilliant thought process. I never would have saw all of those disadvantages to simply trading equal pieces.
I don't feel so bad being stuck at 600 - 650 range there are some great players in this range. This series has been super helpful, thanks so much!
Nelson - I'm watching a lot of your tutorials. You're very concise and to the point without wild wacky gestures and getting off point. You don't ramble or hem/haw something I find irksome in young adults. I'm retired and like to stay busy so why not learn CHESS ? I always have 2 different sites open so I can hop back and forth and I keep a chess notepad file and fill it in with things you say to watch for and be aware of. Some one on her said you' d make a great teacher - and not just this discipline. Thanks !
With the 2nd to last game the 0 blunders is more impressive than the 80 imo.
Just clambered back above 1000 after dropping back down to ~950 for awhile. Still finding watching the lower ratings games helpful and interesting to watch.
This series is incredibly helpful. Thankyou so much!
I really like how your explain your thought process. Great job!
This series is such a blessing, i dont know if there is any content like this, this is huge help, thank you so much and God bless
In low elo like this, you should show how you can easily fall for the Englund Gambit.
Love the clarity of your explanation of your tactics...very helpful.
i have a challenge play against martin but replace the selected piece every 3 move by spinning a wheel choosing what to select and to replace it with which piece pawns can promote and pawns on 1st rank have the same condition as the pawn on2nd rank GOOD LUCK!
7:55 Qh4 looks like an extremely passive move. Qf3 threatens Qxf7# and I'm having difficulty seeing how black would stop that.
I think that black could play f6 and get a queen trade if white takes that pawn.
I almost commented that too but f5 miraculously stops everything.
@@danielyuan9862 So it does because the e4 pawn is now pinned. Fair enough.
Yesterday I surpassed the 1700 elo. I can see that it’s getting much more difficult to ”become better”. If anyone has any tips please comment🙌
Wow fantastic! 1700 is no small feat! I’d assume it gets exponentially harder as you go up. Going up like 50 elo now is probably close to as hard as gaining 300 if you we’re an 800. Shoot at 300 you’d be a 2000. I’m like 500 below you though so don’t listen to me haha. Again well done my friend
Congrats, yeah I'm at 1600 and face the same issue, if you wanna get better from that point on you have to do more than you did in the past. Tactics are getting sharper, people know theory and stop blundering more obvious stuff. Imo identifying your weaknesses and strengths compared to other players of your rating is the first thing you have to figure out and then you see how much time and energy you wanna invest in getting better. If you're below average on tactics doing more puzzles will help eventually, if you don't know as much theory just study openings and/or endgames. Hope any of this helps you ❤
1600 here
Nice! I hit 800 last night so clearly I'm halfway there! My advice is to capture the opponent's king.
Yes, that's sarcasm. Seriously though, well done
@@justinkeefe3456 Ironically, seems like we did listen to you
Your analysis is extremely helpful!
this video is so wonderfully well made and edited! wow.
At 26:18 if you took the black pawn with the bishop first, when black recaptures with his bishop you could then recapture his bishop and pawn with your pawn forking the rook and queen. Yes he could try to move away but it would cause a lot of trouble and disruption making him try to save 2 pieces.
Q: If checkmate is delivered using a rook, a bishop and a pawn. Is there any advantage to determining that the mate was a 9 point win ? ( r 5+ b 3+ p 1 ) Or would that be purely a statistical interest? The mating patterns could be quantified. Average win could be 7.5 , but the avg loss may be 8.25. It may show something ???
I love this series! Keep going. This really helps
this series is more helpful than any chess videos ive watched
I wonder at which rating you'll get your first loss
probably in the 1000 to 1500 range if i had to guess
@@satgurs I'm 1500 There's no way he's going to lose to less than 1900 even with this rating range the chances of them winning are very slim to non-existent
Opponent: “This guy is already wasting all his time, I must be destroying this dude right now.”
Nelson: “So there’s 11 different ways I can obliterate my opponent here. This move would be checkmate, but is there anything better.”
"I only have 4 to 5 times the ELO of this player, so I want to make this loss as humiliating as possible for him."
The way you explain each step and what's going on in your mind is very interesting. Keep it coming. Love from India :)
Fun mate in that last game👍🏻 Thanks for the fun series.
29:26 He sacrificed... THE ROOOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!!
Mr. Nelson can you play the French Defense or the Caro-Kann next video?
The reason they play well is because they see themselves as being rated higher than you and therefore think they are better than you. The placebo effect
At about 4:30 mark- I can tell you for a fact that at 600 rated chess, if you had pushed the E pawn, the opponent would have taken it with the queen thinking it was a free pawn.
As far as 500-600 playing better then rated, I don't know.
I'm currently in that range. I had 2 games with 90%, 1 was 70%. (Recently)
Some days I'm not in in but sometimes I'm destroying. I can beat bots at about 1300-1400.
I've also had game review score me 1500-2000+ at times so.... don't know. I'm thinking something is off.
Honestly the estimate overshoots by like 500 points. Site thinks I played like a 2200 when I'm only 1550 in rapid. It was a very short game though (23 moves)
I'm similar. I am rated roughly 630 in Rapid, but can defeat 1300 (occasionally 1400 rated bots.).
@todddalton4579 still means I should be in 1000-1500 not 500-600.
I think a lot of higher ratings somehow got stuck at low elos lol think their algorithm might be off
@@shaggysunshine7441 There's no "algorithm". The only system is the elo rating system, which isn't faulty unless you've only played like 0-20 games. This particular system functions using a mathematical formula. As Todd said, the game evaluation often overshoots, but even if not, it only evaluates your one game performance.
@sacreligioussneetch6045
I do play "24 hour" games my elo is going up there lately. I beat 1000s there. I am 500-600 rapid.
As the player base in chess gets better all around, all players end up playing better, which makes it so that accuracy goes up for lower ratings. It's especially noticeable at the mid ranges.
We've seen this in Fight Games for years, where when a game first releases all ranks, even top ranks, make a lot of mistakes, and after five years or so the top players are almost perfect in their plans and execution. This is the same story, just with general audience education being the primary driving factor instead of raw time limiting people's experience with the game. So as more good chess educators make good chess training and strategy available to more people, lower rated players will objectively perform better and people in the mid range who do not improve will see a drop in their personal rating.
I'm stuck at 1040 to 1050 elo, playing A.I. chess factory app, they changed it a decade ago and it seems alot harder than it was, almost like the levels don't add up to the ratings, and A.I. is soulless so it mates me as fast as it can,lol
Try play Queen Gambit's Beth Harmon in 650-700 rank.
Opponent: Damn why my opponent take so long to move
His opponent: *forecasting his move to his viewer so his viewer can learn while watching*
The opponents are getting better, to the point where I think Chess Vibes would lose the majority of games with queen odds and would have a real challenge even with rook odds
Against
Yo thanks for explaining this video as you do. Best one yet / my favorite
Video idea: you play against Martin but you can’t lose pawns
imo a lot of 600s play very well now, almost feels like theres some kind of rating inflation going on
Yeah i think because a lot of instructive chess content is out there on yt people now at 500 are better than 500's a couple years ago. How much better idk, but i think there's a difference compared to the past.
You mean rating *deflation. Since the same rating means more than before. Inflation would be the opposite.
Around the 19 min mark he's basically drooling at all the good moves he has in front of em 😂😂😂
Try to get all the opening
Also your content makes me happy 😊 thank you❤
Loving these videos!
0:38 it's the Hambleton variation
In the last game around 40:25 was Bxf7+ an option after black played Rc8? It forks the queen on g6 and if black takes with the rook you have Rxc8+ followed by Qxh3 🤔
at 38:00 in game 4 did you consider bishop d5? it attacks the rook and the knight can't take it because of the pin on the queen. I may be missing something there but it was unexpected to not hear you talk through it as an idea at least
Why is there someone replying to comments with bible verses
Bot just ignore it lol
While in American English 'en Passant in British English we use the French pronunciation en passan as in French the t at the end is silent
I can't find the continuation of this video. Seems they aren't uploaded serially. Please can you clarify or share me a link to the next
Appreciate you man
These 600s are 1400s that create new accounts to beat up on people. But then they end up playing the other 1400s who have also sandbagged a new account.
I Been Stuck In The 600s For A While Now 😂😂😂
I guess with accuracy it doesn’t necessarily represent the complexity of a game. Some games seem to follow more obvious routes after say a mistake where one side loses a piece early, and then a bunch of trades happen. I’ve noticed when reviewing my own games that even if I’m down material the engine often gives the stamp of approval to trading pieces.
Whereas other games can be so labyrinthian to navigate, like walking a tight rope where there are bad moves and blunders all over the place, with few good moves available to hunt down.
I must admit though a few of these players have played very very well, but one or two do make me a little suspicious. Will be interesting to see if any accounts get closed later. Maybe it’s just the numbering system implying the skill gaps are bigger than the reality. Scary thought.
35:13 if they move the king and you take the rook with the queen thats mate is it not? He played the game about as well as he could have other than not pressuring you in the beginning allowing you to set up and ruining pawn structure
Correction mate in 2 as he would move the king to H8 and then you follow with queen to G8
9:44 "This diagonal for the rook" 💀
Hi Nelson, i realy like your video’s and they help me allot! My rating went from 650 to 750! Can you play the haxo gambit in a future video?🤔👍
How can i play with you?
Peter is so much better. He plays like NM
Yeah this version of Peter would crush Average Joe
But no one can beat Bobby Fischerman, he catches Stockfish for fun and plays with his cat Mittens
I mean Peter now has the ELO of a chess engine so winning 56 games in a row seems about right.
@@qazzaqstan Until the berries wear off that is
how about reaching 2000 from 1500 .. most players are 1400 rated.
Me nodding at my screen not understanding a single thing he just said
At 40:00... did you overlook bxf7! ? Looks like you will force his queen to take, which gives a queen a bishop and pawn for a bishop and rook. He might even blunder and lose more 39:59
Yeah, but black could take with the rook instead, but if black is not careful, then they could take with their queen and lose their queen.
I also looked at C4, but I discounted it because I thought the resulting position was just too explosive.
🙄 soz...I'll get my coat...
36:45 yeah I definitely got the feeling this one was cheating.
7:55 why not Qf3 with possibility of Qxf7+?
Me seeing a new video of Nelson
*Stares at download button*
Romans 6:23 states that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 1 . 1
@@ScandalousStarsI like the parts that emphatically states the Bible is allegorical.
@@josephsalmonte4995 where does it say that?
Can you play the the caro kann or the vienna gambit?
These 600's are so much better than I am at 950....
How do you have this type of vision… damn
Like your channell mostly. But I have an idea how you won 56 games in a row. It was by playing under an assumed identity with a rating 1/4 of your real rating. That is a pretty sure fire way to get a winning record
I reached 1600 .
Has anyone ever told you that you kind of sound like Owen Wilson
Are u ruy lopez relative
Im 600 and i just won my first 1600 rated player and stockfish said i played like a 2100 in the game review 😁
i am currently 635 elo rating only...
+36 elo with 56 wins? What
Nelson ur better than me even when u on purposely blunder
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Ruy Lopez (Spanish) bad opening at 600 ELO -too positional at that level.
Rook sacrifice to open up the enemy position, very clever !! 28:54
Maybe the other 600 players aren't really 600, just like you aren't!
How do you only gain 36 elo in 56 games? That’s less than 1 elo per game?
This is a series starting from 300 I think.
Play a carro khan
22:02 wrong! Your a-file rook is not defended by anything :D
A random knight lands on a1.
The last one is Romanian😁
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He missed a checkmate
timestamp?
Do these poor 600s know who they're playing against? Do they lose points playing you?
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Romans 6:23 states that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 1 . 1
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Romans 6:23 states that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 1 . 1
Stop following me
7:56 couldn't you have played queen to F3? Or am I missing something
f5