3 New bicycles for the garage! Schwinn, DeRosa, Atala! No restoration needed
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- I got two bikes and a frameset. No restoration needed on either bike! The works done. Need to do a complete build on my DeRosa. How should I build this? Period Correct or retromod campy? I love my Schwinn Voyageur 11.8. had one as a kid. This one is almost NOS!
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7:30 You (and I) love that saddle. Retro mod it. It would be a great bike. Stayed to the end. /// What am I passionate about? None of these racers but I could fall in love with that Voyager. I started a Schwinn collection at 70 years of age because I wanted my passion, a 1956 Schwinn Corvette. I got it and a buch of other Schwinns. I am alive in 1959 again. THE FREEDOM!
Awesome. keep it up!! I love the Voyageur and all the Schwinns.
Atala was used by Professional Teams world wide. An excellent racing bike.
Totally AWESOME!!! It’s funny that you brought up resto-moding on today’s video. I was going to hit you up for suggestions on my new acquisition. I just picked up a 1972 Schwinn continental in cool lemon. I’m wanting modern components with the vintage look. Drive train suggestions??? It’s only a continental, so I was thinking of widening the rear triangle to accommodate modern wheels. welding on a derailleur hanger and disc break tabs. Changing to a 3 piece crank with the proper adapter. And jumping to a 1 1/8 steer tube and new steel fork. Your thoughts???? At any rate, love all the stories!! Keep the videos coming.
If you want period correct brakes for the Atala, I'd go with Universal Mod 61 centerpulls
good suggestion!
If I remember correctly my mid-1970s Motobecane LeChampion had Universal 61 center pull brakes.
Old pro mechanic here in the UK.
I'm guessing the Atala headset could be a Tange variant?
The calipers are fitting to it & look great, I wouldn't worry if original on the bike or not. Original maybe Mafac or those I guess.
The Campagnolo headets of that era had different quality of overall finishing, the lower end more dull & the Chorus/Record much more polished.
Just found your channel, my experience in bikes goes back to the 1970's to current & i'm happy to help in any way I can.
Just subscribed, great suff 👍
Glad to have you on the channel. I am always asking questions in my videos. I dont claim to know everything. I started working in a shop in 82 and of course a lot I was working on was from the 70s up.. some 60s but not much. I think I have to change the brake levers to the wienmann with the hard white hoods. I think I have a pair. I'll keep the center pulls! Thanks for watching.
Another enjoyable video. The Schwinn bike brand is almost unknown in the UK. Look forward to the forthcoming video presentation on your Italian bikes. The Bianchi sign looks just dandy on that wall.
Living near the Schwinn factory , Schwinn's were always apart of my growing up. Raleigh might possibly feel that way for you?? I love my Raleighs too. I'll probably do the Italian bike video relatively soon. Thanks for watching!
ATALA!@@@!!
Great bike. My buddy's first race bike , he bought while on vacation in Italy. It was a mid 70s. All Campy Super Record. Road raced for many years, now has top tube crack. Might fix it.
Give Jeffrey Bock in Aimes IA for that repair.. He does a great job!
Beautiful Atala. Congratulations
Thank you
Atala models did come with Weinman brakes. Like the Raleigh International, many manufacturers offered a Campy groupo with brake downgrade, Weinman and Modolo being two common substitutes.
I would definitely keep the Weinmann center pull brakes on the Atala. I mean everybody was using them back in '69 when I started racing. Ha ha, yeah I know, long time ago. It needs another saddle and seatpost. Why not a leather saddle?
Good suggestions, I don't like the brake levers, they're not stock. Leather saddle would work but what seatpost do I put on?
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Eddy Merckx started this crazy fashion with drilling holes all over his bike.
I'll suggest a Camp Gran Sport or similar seatpost.
With center pull brakes it just oozes what I call "bits n pieces " engineering ,all those cables and mounting brackets just cool .
I like the brakes. The brake levers don't look stock. Thanks for watching
Btw, saw the 2018 vid on the 50th Paramount with the "Gardin" pantographed C Record group (which you mentioned in this vid)..Joe Gardin lived outside of Toronto and owned several businesses one of which was a bicycle import/manufacturing business ..being from Italy he had a lot of connections in the Italian bike industry in the 80/90's. I met him a few times while on rides in the area. Try searching "Joe Gardin".
Great info. Thanks for watching!
Excellent Voyageur.
I have the Japan made , touring Schwinn Voyageur , ColumbusTenax tubes, , green.
That's an excellent bicycle in the perfect color!
Nice take on what is “valuable”…in 1982, at the age of 14, I bought my first “good” bike…a Fuji del Rey (a very modest, approaching “lower-end” bike). That bike started me on a lifetime of riding, but the frame cracked after a few years of hard riding. Fast forward to 2021 and I found a near-mint del Rey on Craigslist for a very reasonable price. I was more excited to find that than I was when I had found a beautiful vintage Ritchey a few months earlier! Value is definitely in the eye of the beholder!
I get that. That was actually a pretty decent bike. Mine first decent bike was a 1981 Schwinn World Sport. Steel wheels and Steel three piece cranks! Still loved it. I was used to huffys!
My brother's first road bike was an Atala and it had all Campagnolo Nouvo Record with Universal Brakes model 68 which were side pull. They also made a centerpull like the Weinmann.
That's a hell of a first bike!! Nice
He first had this English three speed with a two cog changed by a Benelux derailluer. My Dad got it somewhere. He then inherited my Super Sport. He owns Grand Performance in St Paul.
that is "six" speed. Three speed Sturmey Archer. I rode that on the Elroy Sparta trail in 1970.
Another great video..
Thanks so much!
Alala brakes: Would look good with a Modolo Professional set. Roughly the same age as the frame.
I got to put some correct brake levers.
Retro mod the DeRosa…love to see that on the road! Really like the Cinelli also, maybe a two-fer retro-mod? Makes for great TH-cam content right? Thanks for the videos and I’ll be following along for sure.
Cheers!
Thanks for the suggestion, I am torn as to which bike to put the modern components on. Leaning towards the DeRosa
Good video!
Thanks.
The Atala came with Weinmann brakes, it was a upper mid quality race inspired bike, known for some beautiful lugwork and 2 tone paints. It did come with large flange hubs. It's stock. Came stock with sew ups, most riders changed to clinchers in USA.
Some great acquisitions for the collection 👌🏼 I don’t agree much with being unable to stay with the bunch on group rides on a vintage groupset though, that’s got a lot more to do with fitness and your legs than what you’re riding on 😊
With equal fitness having brifters is definitely an advantage. That's my thought anyway
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Yeah, I’d agree with that as well 👍🏼
Beautiful Atala. I have one. It should have a serial number on the seat tube up by the seat cluster. From the video I saw a 72 which is the year. That headset may have roller bearings. Love your answer to the value question. Spot on. Cheers
Thanks. Do you have the same model?
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Same model and size unfortunately she's far from the condition yours is in.
yes catalogue says weinman 999, you have the right brakes
Thanks so much! I think I have the wrong levers however. I think I might have the correct set to put on.
Love the Atalia and Voyager. I would definitely retro-mod the Cinelli if your going to ride it. And, the groupo on the Cinelli would work with the DeRosa. My dad bought a Rizzato 10 speed for me around 1962. Can’t find anything online about them except that when I do search the name Atalia comes up.
Yes, not familiar with the Rizzato! Still cant decide which to retro-mod. We'll see!
Great watch! Had a sierra brown varsity as a kid, but if you look in my garage, you will see two '71 Schwinns. Super Sport and Sports Tourer. Both Sierra Brown. How did that happen?
Awesome color. Looking for that minty sports tourer
Dead cool collection. I have a few myself but not on this scale and certainly not as well presented. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much. A work in progress! Thanks for watching. Whats your favorite bike that you have?
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage, I love them all. The ones that tend to attract most admiration are the 1977 Carlton Grand Prix, the 1980 Carlton Criterium, the 1980 Carlton Pro-am 12, the 1983 Claud Butler Majestic, the circa-1985 Giubilato Corsa, the 1979 Mercian KoM, and the 1982 Raleigh Record Ace.
I have an ITM Eclypse quill stem on my 95 Bianchi, like the one on your DeRosa, except mine is chromed. You could build it up with either Campy 8 speed with down tube indexed shifters, or Shimano 7410, 8 speed, with STI shifters. PS You could cheat a little (by a year) and put on 8 speed Ergo levers, to shift with (they came out in 1992.
That frame was treated to a friend. You'll probably see it again back on the channel as we build it up with a campy 9-speed group
omg!!!!!! been waiting for video!!!!
This video or any video? Lol
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage any and all of your videos!!!! they are always good stuff!!!
Retro-mod the De Rosa ... seems like a lot of extra work to also tear apart the Cinelli. Of course, if you'd rather ride the Cinelli with better shifters then you already know what you;re going to do :)
Still torn!!
Gotta find a zipper fairing for that that Schwinn !
I have been looking for one for ages now. I don't remember what happened to the one I had as a teen
Digging the De Rosa. I am on the hunt for one of those for my collection. Good score!
Thanks, I preferred one that is older but this one is nice. Especially if I Retro mod it. Thanks for watching.
That Atala is mid grade...top of the range was "101 Professional" and I'm uncertain if those even came with Nuovo Record brakes factory. You know, just like 70s Paramounts. Pretty sure that frame pre dates anything from Modolo as someone suggested. I'd leave it alone...you need to have at least one ' shop truck' in your collection.
Shop Truck! LOL It's actually too small for me but it was in such good condition that I had to buy it. Im not familiar with the Atala line. I'll have to dig a bit to learn more.
Love the Schwinn. . There is a voyageur for sale in my area and I may buy it.
I just have a lot of sentimental feelings for the chrome voyageur. Im looking for the Japanese made Voyageur SP! in a 23
Keep the Cinelli built and do the Derosa all it's own
I'm leaning that way. Retomod..10 speed campy group
The chrome on the Atala is just stunning causes me to lust for it. As for retromoding, what about a SRAM Force AXS electronic group, its available in rim brake but you need to go to 11 speed. Could the rear triangle handle it? I'm on the fence about cold setting. I've done it myself and I have had it done. Both times worked out ok but DIY made me really nervouse. Thanks for the videos. And I hope that E bike in the background doesn't infect the old steel bikes.
Lol. The e-bike belongs to my wife so she can't keep up with me. I like Sram but an Italian bicycle I will put campagnolo. Don't have a choice lol. I have cold set about 30 bikes in my lifetime. With the proper alignment tools, it's not too bad. Thanks for watching
I have a competazione size 58cm, mine has all the components in the ad and spec sheet (google them) and the tipo hubs laced to some rigida clinchers, which are the only non original component, mine has a campy seat post as well in addition to all campy drive train except for the strong light crank
That's cool, I definitely have to do some more research. The handlebars are bent and the brake levers are not stock. Thanks for watching
triple t stem, yes correct, mine has the gear ratio sticker on it
Thats pretty cool! I remember making those for customers in the early 80s
Absolutly the Weinmann center pull brakes rule.Atala is a honey!
Thanks
I always enjoy your videos. I'm trying to find an older steel bike with some good tire clearance to retro-mod and turn into my gravel bike. Any suggestions on racier bikes with good tire clearance?
I am not totally up to speed on which vintage bikes have more clearance by brand. However, look at most bikes that originally came with a center pull brake, those would have more room to begin with. Possibly an older Schwinn Paramount. But for my liking, if I was going to turn a bike into a gravel bike I would look into a Miyata 615, Miyata 1000, Trek 720 or 620 with cantilevers. Just to name a couple
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Awesome. Thanks for your advice!
Great video! I’d like to come by and see your collection. How much do you charge for a tour?
People come by all the time. No charge
@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage What’s the address and hours of operation?
@@o021455 this is not a business. This is not a museum. It's my own personal space. When an enthusiast wants to see the collection. We just set up a time.
mid to late schwinn!!! OR A SAME PERIOD BOTTECHIA!!
Lots of cool stuff there! Regarding the Atala, I've got a 1975 issue of Bicycling that has an ad for Atala, and it says that the Weinmann centerpulls were used on the mid-level models. The top model got Universal 61 centerpulls. No info on the headset, but I'll tentatively guess Stronglight. Here's a link to the Atala ad: live.staticflickr.com/65535/50926592098_a7511d4201_k_d.jpg
Thanks so much for going through the trouble of sending that! I appreciate it. Thanks for watching.
Hey, I remember that ad! 1972 was still the era when centerpulls and high flange hubs were considered premium. A few years later that would switch to sidepulls and low flange hubs.