That was the first thing I thought when I read that title lol. Killmonger wanted to conquer the outside world with the Wakandan spy network, T’Challa is using them to preempt attacks on Wakanda. Very different purposes that put Ridley’s interpretation of the character more in line with Priest. Idk what Blerd’s talking about, he knows this is how T’Challa was traditionally written before Coates lol
Black Panther was plans that has plans. I’ve been enjoying the direction/growth of the character. The 10 sleeper agents part is Batmanish LOL. Keep up the great work💯🔥🙅🏾♂️
This first issue was really great! The transition from monarch rule to a parliamentary system and his view on democracy is so spot on! I can't wait for the second issue. Definitely might be 1 of my favorite BP comics after the intergalactic empire of Wakanda
Yea I’m thinking Gentle’s background is a cover by T’Challa to infiltrate the X-Men like how he lied about his intentions to spy on the Avengers. Gentle is one of Storm’s closest students and he’s probably one of her confidants on Mars, meaning he has access to a bunch of Krakoan state secrets T’Challa now knows about. He might be the only non-mutant hero that knows about mutant resurrection and their cosmic plans.
Poor t’challa, and the lack of understanding doesn’t seem like cap. I feel like the way they wrote cap is weird. I feel like he should understand and say, “I understand t’challa I’d hate to see you go, but I understand you a duty to uphold. You’ll always be needed, hopefully we can still count on you when things get tough.” Or maybe I’m thinking about the perfect MCU cap more so.
The mcu version of T’Challa and wakanda don’t do them justice! The fact that Goddess Bast isn’t even present is the only reason why killmonger became the Damisa Sarki! Now they are permanently killing 616 T’Challa until BP2 bombs at the box office
@@djholidaytv414 i can feel that! It’s definitely a transformer kind of situation where there’s more to it than meets the 👁. Whoever plays T’Challa they just need to get protection from the ancestors prior to playing that role
@@BillionDollars_Stcyr7999 Facts ! reason why okoye might become the next bp. Outside of BP she is the only one who holds direct lineage to the Kikuyu Tribe who filed a lawsuit against Disney/Marvel
Because he always makes more trouble than he solves with this "Wakanda over all!" instead of "Wakanda EQUAL TO and living in a world WITH other nations!"
I think the goal of isolating T'Challa from the Avengers, from Storm, and his other allies outside of Wakanda is so nothing in Black Panther bleeds over into other Marvel titles if you catch what I'm saying because look at all the stuff outside of Wakanda T'Challa has been dragged into... King in Black, War of Realms, The Last Annihilation, and I could go on the inverse is Black Panther then has to take time to address the crossover impact on it's own title. Now Black Panther is free to just ignore everything happening in the greater Marvel universe and focus solely on Wakanda where as before I feel Wakanda was treated more as T'Challa's Air B&B he leased out to the Avengers
I appreciate changes and updates, but really comfortable with it all but neither am I comfortable with the goings-on in Krakoa. It is just hard seeing conflict and your favorite characters struggle.
I wish they’d just let storm have her happiness in love. They always ruin it for her. I do believe Storm and BP belong together but it always cuts down to the same ole bs. It’s torture at point
Coates run made it very clear how T’Challa feels about Storm. Just depends on how Marvel carries it from here. It’s the white writers that hate the relationship. Also, both characters are crazy busy, running worlds, empires, leading nations and teams, daily combat, the fallout of other people’s issues, understandably not much time for love there.
Hope this democracy gets destroyed by the end of the run. Hate this appeal to western styles of government as some noble, lofty goal to be obtained by other nations. Wakanda prospered without modelling the outside world and that's what made it cool and special! I'm actually hoping A LOT of Coates' plotlines get retconned.
I don't. Why? Because Constitutional Republic or Democracy with a founding document of rights that cannot be violated is the best system of government in the world when properly done and royalty/monarchy is the WORST system in the world full stop that always causes more problems than it solves.
We are Global African Indigenous people!! Love and Unity is the best key for us all together!!💯 Also Giving thanks to the Great Mother's/Goddesses and Great Father's/Gods and the Ancestors and Guardians!! Saying from Snefer aka Bashiyr!!👸🏿🤴🏿
The cheating isn't because of a romantic reason. Its because of their duty and fealty towards T'Challa. Its the same with the Dora Milaja - they are not allowed to marry or love another, because all of those feelings are to be suppressed, and their life pledged to the Throne.
Steve is a form of black ppl in this instant cuz he looking out for his ppl the avengers that's not really of America. He can't understand a 👑 mind state cuz he sees only a democracy and not demogogue as a head of an entirety
That whole democracy shit is not even needed seeing as both the MCU and comics have their own government policitics, the head tribes were voted by the ppl to help wakanda thrive and prosper. And that was T'Challa idea , not to mention the title of king was for everyone due to challenge day. I hate how they're trying to make Wakabda more like western or other democracy around the world. They're better thn that, if they wanted them to have struggles thn focus on black/African problems
I dont like it either. Its from the coates era and i won't get into the politics of why i don't like his run but i will say this - why does a nation with thousands of years of governing experience, which has lead them to prosperity, decide on implementing a western/foreign system with quite obvious problems. This is supposed to be an African country uncolonized. Why do we have to force a westerncentric philosophy and worldview on them. Its frustrating.
They need to stop that. If they can keep Reed and Sue together. They need to stop making it seem like black couples especially storm and BP act as if they have issues allow the time. Let them be great
Democracy isn’t inherently western. Egalitarian and representative politics are present across multiple indigenous cultures. Including those across the African continent. There’s huge variance in how they can be structured and how decisions are reached (including things like elder counsel, consensus, etc.). My impression of how Wakanda was governed defaulted to the Black Panther making all decisions up until I saw the movie where he looks like he’s got a counsel of Representative tribal leaders which make up Wakanda. In Coates’ run of Nation Under our Feet we see him refer to a similar council when receiving consultation on decisions. In considering what this transition from absolute monarchy to constitutional monarchy, it appears that the formation of parliamentary sectors of government will be established specifically to address and manage domestic issues which have risen and escalated as invasions and crises occur more frequently and incur consequences on a community and individual level for Wakanda citizens, as we saw with the Dora Milajae forming their own guerrilla movement, the Midnight Angels, who were quelling abuse and enslavement which occurred internally as a result of the fallout from so many crises leaving the homeland largely unattended by the singular ruling head of the country. In that issue, I believe Coates did an amazing job conveying a story that shows how there’s complexity to these settings and don’t just serve as eye candy. A lot of amazing breakthroughs were had throughout the issue and I feel that this new run is very uncharacteristic of T’challa after all the conversations he had over the past five years of publication and how they seek to look for what works for his people rather than emulating western and imperial powers by making the people subject to the nation. Right now, he’s skeptical about the parliament he established. I do feel that a story can be told of him getting used to the idea or struggling to find out what that would entail if they seek to really make it work. However, the nature of his conversation with his former War Dog is kinda disappointing, in that it feels that he doesn’t respect the idea of self governorship for the people who mainly live within Wakanda, which was the whole point of the very last arc that he was on over the past 5 years. It’s only the first issue so idk if this will change as the story develops
Tchalla was like that before coats run seems like you haven't read anything before coats run.christopher preist run tchalla was a badass being a master planner being steps ahead of his enemies to protect wakanda. Coates run is the one that's uncharacteristic cause he's was never like that before.
Also huldins run tchalla was the same as Christopher priests run it all predates coats run.coats wanted to westernized wakanda and make mouth pieces to try and preach.alot of us comic fans aren't into that we want badass stories not preachy mouth pieces.
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I wouldn't say that's MCU killmonger plan, I would say that's OG Christopher Priest Black Panther coming back
True and that's the best black panther the mysterious king who is the ultimate chess player
Thank you the MCU got people confused who T'challa is as a character
That was the first thing I thought when I read that title lol. Killmonger wanted to conquer the outside world with the Wakandan spy network, T’Challa is using them to preempt attacks on Wakanda. Very different purposes that put Ridley’s interpretation of the character more in line with Priest. Idk what Blerd’s talking about, he knows this is how T’Challa was traditionally written before Coates lol
Exactly this was his father's plan
It's been so long since we seen this
A breath of fresh air compared to Coates run bringing me back to the badass christopher priest black panther.
T’Challa being the leader of the Avengers is bad idea from the start. I mean his bowl is always full.
Black Panther was plans that has plans. I’ve been enjoying the direction/growth of the character. The 10 sleeper agents part is Batmanish LOL. Keep up the great work💯🔥🙅🏾♂️
batman suck he copy black panther
It is also going to cause more trouble than it solves when people inevitably find out about it and go "You did WTF?"
#RecastTChalla
Indeed
This first issue was really great! The transition from monarch rule to a parliamentary system and his view on democracy is so spot on! I can't wait for the second issue. Definitely might be 1 of my favorite BP comics after the intergalactic empire of Wakanda
Killmomger is back to life?
This will happen in UK soon
Agreed. I was worried about the this run after the previous 2 volumes from Coates but this was a really good start.
Theory: Gentle is T'challas agent on Krakoa
Omfg if that is true Tchalla is a Goat
@@blacksquirdward3301 well that just confirms it then doesn't it
That would be awesome
Yea I’m thinking Gentle’s background is a cover by T’Challa to infiltrate the X-Men like how he lied about his intentions to spy on the Avengers.
Gentle is one of Storm’s closest students and he’s probably one of her confidants on Mars, meaning he has access to a bunch of Krakoan state secrets T’Challa now knows about. He might be the only non-mutant hero that knows about mutant resurrection and their cosmic plans.
@@bradonbriffa9690 lmao basically
Poor t’challa, and the lack of understanding doesn’t seem like cap. I feel like the way they wrote cap is weird. I feel like he should understand and say, “I understand t’challa I’d hate to see you go, but I understand you a duty to uphold. You’ll always be needed, hopefully we can still count on you when things get tough.” Or maybe I’m thinking about the perfect MCU cap more so.
The mcu version of T’Challa and wakanda don’t do them justice! The fact that Goddess Bast isn’t even present is the only reason why killmonger became the Damisa Sarki! Now they are permanently killing 616 T’Challa until BP2 bombs at the box office
BP2 will flop tremendously
@@djholidaytv414 you know it will! All the real fans aren’t happy with what dafuq they are doing!
@@BillionDollars_Stcyr7999 none of the actors want to play BP after what happen to Chadwick. We are in spiritual warfare.
@@djholidaytv414 i can feel that! It’s definitely a transformer kind of situation where there’s more to it than meets the 👁. Whoever plays T’Challa they just need to get protection from the ancestors prior to playing that role
@@BillionDollars_Stcyr7999 Facts ! reason why okoye might become the next bp. Outside of BP she is the only one who holds direct lineage to the Kikuyu Tribe who filed a lawsuit against Disney/Marvel
Man! It seems that everybody has issues with T'Challa.
Because he always makes more trouble than he solves with this "Wakanda over all!" instead of "Wakanda EQUAL TO and living in a world WITH other nations!"
i feel like theres a lot of issues with the last couple years of Black Panther comics, i hope this run fixes them.
"soak in sin"...😏...i love the code hahahahaha 😂🤣...i mean im always nervous about Black panther but this is on a new level Ridley is good.....
John ridley said aint no happily ever afters over here get your ass on the struggle bus
Coates himself said he didn't understand the character. Why is marvel letting him have such a huge effect then ?
I think the goal of isolating T'Challa from the Avengers, from Storm, and his other allies outside of Wakanda is so nothing in Black Panther bleeds over into other Marvel titles if you catch what I'm saying because look at all the stuff outside of Wakanda T'Challa has been dragged into... King in Black, War of Realms, The Last Annihilation, and I could go on the inverse is Black Panther then has to take time to address the crossover impact on it's own title. Now Black Panther is free to just ignore everything happening in the greater Marvel universe and focus solely on Wakanda where as before I feel Wakanda was treated more as T'Challa's Air B&B he leased out to the Avengers
That would make him a side character tho which they tend to do in major events
I appreciate changes and updates, but really comfortable with it all but neither am I comfortable with the goings-on in Krakoa. It is just hard seeing conflict and your favorite characters struggle.
I really enjoy this. Can’t to see where this story is goinh to take us.
I wish they’d just let storm have her happiness in love. They always ruin it for her. I do believe Storm and BP belong together but it always cuts down to the same ole bs. It’s torture at point
Exactly. I’m convinced Marvel hates black love anyway, but it’s ridiculous with Storm and Black Panther. Ultimately the white writers don’t want it.
Man the MCU got a lot of people confuse this is how T'challa used to be. The MCU version of the T'challa was an incorrect portrayal
Yup which is why I kept telling people MCU T'challa would be looked at by 616 T'challa like you are no good king.
ppl fail to realize that MCU T'Challa was design to be like MLK or Obama
That was a great issue. The sleeper agent subplot was crazy. I’m looking forward to future issues.
I like what this issue is setting up but was disappointed in the lack of BP action in it. But it's John Ridley so I'll probably like it in the end.
Coates run made it very clear how T’Challa feels about Storm. Just depends on how Marvel carries it from here. It’s the white writers that hate the relationship. Also, both characters are crazy busy, running worlds, empires, leading nations and teams, daily combat, the fallout of other people’s issues, understandably not much time for love there.
Lool so true
Hope this democracy gets destroyed by the end of the run. Hate this appeal to western styles of government as some noble, lofty goal to be obtained by other nations. Wakanda prospered without modelling the outside world and that's what made it cool and special! I'm actually hoping A LOT of Coates' plotlines get retconned.
I don't. Why? Because Constitutional Republic or Democracy with a founding document of rights that cannot be violated is the best system of government in the world when properly done and royalty/monarchy is the WORST system in the world full stop that always causes more problems than it solves.
We are Global African Indigenous people!! Love and Unity is the best key for us all together!!💯
Also Giving thanks to the Great Mother's/Goddesses and Great Father's/Gods and the Ancestors and Guardians!! Saying from Snefer aka Bashiyr!!👸🏿🤴🏿
Probably is Hunter
So…. Is Eden & Shuri gonna be thing?
I hope so
they got to let that happen
Who is the prime minister ???
The cheating isn't because of a romantic reason. Its because of their duty and fealty towards T'Challa. Its the same with the Dora Milaja - they are not allowed to marry or love another, because all of those feelings are to be suppressed, and their life pledged to the Throne.
Marvel hates relationships
This is true.
I am team killmonger all the way! He should be the ruler of the intergalactic wakanda.
Steve is a form of black ppl in this instant cuz he looking out for his ppl the avengers that's not really of America. He can't understand a 👑 mind state cuz he sees only a democracy and not demogogue as a head of an entirety
Steve needs to learn to watch his mouth, ESPECIALLY if he isn’t asking the same out of Thor, Captain Marvel, Blade, Doctor Strange, and the others.
I always wonder why it seems Steve always need something from T'Challa
Dope
Sweet 👍
Am I the only one that doesn't like this whole Wakanda becoming a Democracy thing?
I don't like it either but it's either going to fall apart in the end or they're doing this because this is going to happen in the MCU.
Most people don't but blame Coats for that.
That whole democracy shit is not even needed seeing as both the MCU and comics have their own government policitics, the head tribes were voted by the ppl to help wakanda thrive and prosper. And that was T'Challa idea , not to mention the title of king was for everyone due to challenge day. I hate how they're trying to make Wakabda more like western or other democracy around the world. They're better thn that, if they wanted them to have struggles thn focus on black/African problems
@@ampocalypsew3883
This.
I dont like it either. Its from the coates era and i won't get into the politics of why i don't like his run but i will say this - why does a nation with thousands of years of governing experience, which has lead them to prosperity, decide on implementing a western/foreign system with quite obvious problems.
This is supposed to be an African country uncolonized. Why do we have to force a westerncentric philosophy and worldview on them. Its frustrating.
They need to stop that. If they can keep Reed and Sue together. They need to stop making it seem like black couples especially storm and BP act as if they have issues allow the time. Let them be great
First to comment on today's video.
Democracy isn’t inherently western. Egalitarian and representative politics are present across multiple indigenous cultures. Including those across the African continent.
There’s huge variance in how they can be structured and how decisions are reached (including things like elder counsel, consensus, etc.). My impression of how Wakanda was governed defaulted to the Black Panther making all decisions up until I saw the movie where he looks like he’s got a counsel of Representative tribal leaders which make up Wakanda.
In Coates’ run of Nation Under our Feet we see him refer to a similar council when receiving consultation on decisions. In considering what this transition from absolute monarchy to constitutional monarchy, it appears that the formation of parliamentary sectors of government will be established specifically to address and manage domestic issues which have risen and escalated as invasions and crises occur more frequently and incur consequences on a community and individual level for Wakanda citizens, as we saw with the Dora Milajae forming their own guerrilla movement, the Midnight Angels, who were quelling abuse and enslavement which occurred internally as a result of the fallout from so many crises leaving the homeland largely unattended by the singular ruling head of the country.
In that issue, I believe Coates did an amazing job conveying a story that shows how there’s complexity to these settings and don’t just serve as eye candy. A lot of amazing breakthroughs were had throughout the issue and I feel that this new run is very uncharacteristic of T’challa after all the conversations he had over the past five years of publication and how they seek to look for what works for his people rather than emulating western and imperial powers by making the people subject to the nation.
Right now, he’s skeptical about the parliament he established. I do feel that a story can be told of him getting used to the idea or struggling to find out what that would entail if they seek to really make it work. However, the nature of his conversation with his former War Dog is kinda disappointing, in that it feels that he doesn’t respect the idea of self governorship for the people who mainly live within Wakanda, which was the whole point of the very last arc that he was on over the past 5 years.
It’s only the first issue so idk if this will change as the story develops
Tchalla was like that before coats run seems like you haven't read anything before coats run.christopher preist run tchalla was a badass being a master planner being steps ahead of his enemies to protect wakanda. Coates run is the one that's uncharacteristic cause he's was never like that before.
Also huldins run tchalla was the same as Christopher priests run it all predates coats run.coats wanted to westernized wakanda and make mouth pieces to try and preach.alot of us comic fans aren't into that we want badass stories not preachy mouth pieces.