If you just want to do early Roland equipment, Juno, SH-101, Jupiter 8, free Juno Chorus, I recommend TAL. For the TB-303 I use D16 Phoscyon. You can give yourself creative paralysis with having too many VST's.
All are excellent and must have :) UVI sounds really great in mix.. without doing nothing special .. Falcon is just Awesome... and Uvi has a great support.
I had the full Roland cloud. I just use the Pro one now because all the sounds I need are in Zenology. The best vst for vintage synths sound for me. Light on the cpu and everything at the same place
Honestly I love what UVI has done so much. My favorite is the sampled Fizmo, Prophet 10, the Saturns, and the Electric Pianos/Tines. Each preset is so inspiring and unique.
V collection and Keylab 61 my 2 are a match made in heaven. It sounds, feels, and responds like the original hardware. Tough to beat that. But Faclon is awesome as an original do it all synth. Tried Roland cloud ultimate. Didn’t care for Zenology interface but the modeled instruments were good, like the D50 and JD800
Roland Cloud is my favorite. It’s so inspiring because it’s the original manufacturer modeling their own hardware and they sound so good and the user interfaces are pretty.
Great video, man! For anyone wondering, UVI would use more RAM since its using original recorded samples as compare to others cuz they use CPU. Similar to kontakt instruments.
First-time visitor, enjoyed this vid, liked and subscribed - thank you for your channel and content. What I like about Arturia's Vintage Collection (I am running v9 now) is the fact that the user interface feels like you've got the actual vintage synth in front of you, and for me - a guy who stupidly sold his Prophet 5 rev. 3 10 years ago - I don't miss my P5 as much now, and having to learn how these vintage synths work has also been an enjoyable part of owning this collection because it's the closest I'm ever going to come to playing these actual vintage instruments. Cheers!
Excellent video! Great job positioning these 3 different approaches to virtual vintage synths. You hit some points I hadn’t thought of - like the CPU load, synthesis versus samples, the look/feel for musicians. 🤩
As someone who ended up with all 3 over time (started out with UVI VV3) - my take is - they all sound great. Roland Cloud I probably wouldn’t bother with if I didn’t own a System-8 just because of the CPU usage, but I still do the play4life thingy. As for which I use most - Arturia. Simply because it’s NKS compatible and I can tweak using Komplete Kontrol. If I could go back in time 5 years though - I’d tell my past self not to bother with any of them and just buy Omnisphere 😂
I've got both Arturia and Omnisphere. I kind like both of them and use them differently. Thinking of trying out one of the UVI products, perhaps Falcon? I love Arturia, I wrote a long review on the Sweetwater website about it. I was hoping Arturia would thank me with a bunch of free stuff. Ha.
@@ronricherson6685 ha good luck with that! Falcon is actually pretty good too. Not quite as well supported with the third party stuff like Omni and Zebra (especially those excellent Unfinished libraries), but it’s a very capable synth and there’s still a lot I haven’t learned about it. Since my review, I’ve gone back to rediscovering my JV-1080 😂
The JV-1080 rocks. I have the Falcon on my "possible" list. I just checked out Zebra last night as a matter of fact. I just bought some interesting libraries from Spitfire Audio that are only $29. Thanks for writing back.
I was missing the point and was all stuck the marketing strategy. The offers are difficult to navigate nowadays. I get it better now. Thanks, I subscribe...
I went with Rolands Ultimate cloud Play4life plan so for $1000 over five years I will have 10 lifetime licenses on whichever models I choose. In the meantime I have access to pretty much all. Only time will tell if it was a good idea as they could just decide to shut it off whenever. 🎶🎶🎹🎹🎶🎶😁 Play On
Tried Roland Cloud but many users including myself had constant issues with online authentication. Wouldn't even work half the time. Having an Arturia midi keyboard, getting V Collection 8 for dirt cheap, and the file compression Arturia uses so the software takes up little space but still has high quality audio, made it an easy choice. If I went with another bundle like Komplete, I would have had to buy an external hdd for my macbook. Havent tried UVI, but I have their Steinway Model D piano plugin and it sounds awesome, and much better than Arturia and Logic Pro's pianos.
I prefer the way UVI sounds, but like the Arturia presets more. I feel that UVI tries to add a modern interpretation to their presets, which takes away from it’s authenticity. Arturia’s don’t sound as authentic, but I feel they try to stay more true to the authentic gear. The difference is obvious even while watching their promo videos/music demos. UVI attempts to establish how these vintage synths can be used in modern music. If I want modern, I’d stick with other synths. I wish UVI embraced the vintage sound more and their presets reflected this.
Arturia’s V Collection is quite amazing. A huge amount of great sounds. I’ve been playing around with Roland Cloud just a bit. Not as inspiring as the V Collection. Some of it sounds really good though. I have not tried Vintage Vault. I don’t want any more disk space used up though. Speaking of which, I have IK Multimedia’s Syntronik 2, and they have some stuff you don’t see elsewhere and the sound quality is top notch. If I could just have one, it would be the V Collection. Add Pigments, and you have everything you would need. I might try Korg’s collection at some point because I do like their sounds quite a bit.
An update with Korg Collection 3 might be nice? Included items tend to be either easy to use with large patch libraries OR easier to learn and explore. (Odyssey, MonoPoly, etc.)
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I can only recommend it, it's an awesome collection!
UVI sample libraries are often dual layer, with some kind of arpeggiator as well, plus its UVI Workstation is a multitimbral host itself. What about Syntronik 2 Max and Korg Collection 3?
I compared V-collection and Roland Cloud on my brand new M1pro MacBook Pro and unfortunately the Roland Cloud synths was not usable. They sounded good but the performance was terrible. Even on this extremely powerful computer. I was able to use like 2 synths and then the sound start to crackle. I’ve never seen this problem with the synths in the v-collection, or any other vst for that matter. I also tried the zenology version of the synths and the performance improved drastically but I don’t think they sounded as good and I did not like the UI.
Great video and so well explained, can you tell me how to get the once off payment for Roland Cloud Ultimate as I can’t find it anywhere only the 199 annual payment thanks. I think you called it a “Lifetime License “
You cannot get the Roland Cloud ultimate with a lifetime license. The ultimate is a membership (monthly or yearly). The ultimate gives you access to almost everything from the Roland Cloud ( no the hardware expansion of update Like N/zyme model expansion for fantom, the volcal designer model expansion for the Jupiter XM or the V-Drums TD-50X module upgrade). But if you only want to have a couple of expansion and patches you can buy a lifetime key for it.
If you just want to do early Roland equipment, Juno, SH-101, Jupiter 8, free Juno Chorus, I recommend TAL. For the TB-303 I use D16 Phoscyon. You can give yourself creative paralysis with having too many VST's.
All are excellent and must have :) UVI sounds really great in mix.. without doing nothing special .. Falcon is just Awesome... and Uvi has a great support.
Im with u guy i love uvi
I had the full Roland cloud. I just use the Pro one now because all the sounds I need are in Zenology. The best vst for vintage synths sound for me. Light on the cpu and everything at the same place
Nutrix is my favorite breakfast cereal. Nutritious, crunchy, nutty, YUM!
Honestly I love what UVI has done so much. My favorite is the sampled Fizmo, Prophet 10, the Saturns, and the Electric Pianos/Tines. Each preset is so inspiring and unique.
V collection and Keylab 61 my 2 are a match made in heaven. It sounds, feels, and responds like the original hardware. Tough to beat that. But Faclon is awesome as an original do it all synth. Tried Roland cloud ultimate. Didn’t care for Zenology interface but the modeled instruments were good, like the D50 and JD800
dont forget triton vst, great platform.
I close my eyes and honestly can’t tell which is Roland cloud or which is hardware. They nailed it imo.
Roland Cloud is my favorite. It’s so inspiring because it’s the original manufacturer modeling their own hardware and they sound so good and the user interfaces are pretty.
Great video, man! For anyone wondering, UVI would use more RAM since its using original recorded samples as compare to others cuz they use CPU. Similar to kontakt instruments.
First-time visitor, enjoyed this vid, liked and subscribed - thank you for your channel and content. What I like about Arturia's Vintage Collection (I am running v9 now) is the fact that the user interface feels like you've got the actual vintage synth in front of you, and for me - a guy who stupidly sold his Prophet 5 rev. 3 10 years ago - I don't miss my P5 as much now, and having to learn how these vintage synths work has also been an enjoyable part of owning this collection because it's the closest I'm ever going to come to playing these actual vintage instruments. Cheers!
I dont care about what technology if it sounds great in my ears that is enough for me. Great video even if I dont need more...
Always trust your ears.
Great video! IK Multimedia's sample-based Syntronik would be a nice bundle to compare as well.
Yeah, especially as they have released Syntronik 2 now, which gives you a lot more control of the individual preset. It's great.
Excellent video! Great job positioning these 3 different approaches to virtual vintage synths. You hit some points I hadn’t thought of - like the CPU load, synthesis versus samples, the look/feel for musicians. 🤩
As someone who ended up with all 3 over time (started out with UVI VV3) - my take is - they all sound great. Roland Cloud I probably wouldn’t bother with if I didn’t own a System-8 just because of the CPU usage, but I still do the play4life thingy. As for which I use most - Arturia. Simply because it’s NKS compatible and I can tweak using Komplete Kontrol. If I could go back in time 5 years though - I’d tell my past self not to bother with any of them and just buy Omnisphere 😂
I've got both Arturia and Omnisphere. I kind like both of them and use them differently. Thinking of trying out one of the UVI products, perhaps Falcon? I love Arturia, I wrote a long review on the Sweetwater website about it. I was hoping Arturia would thank me with a bunch of free stuff. Ha.
@@ronricherson6685 ha good luck with that! Falcon is actually pretty good too. Not quite as well supported with the third party stuff like Omni and Zebra (especially those excellent Unfinished libraries), but it’s a very capable synth and there’s still a lot I haven’t learned about it. Since my review, I’ve gone back to rediscovering my JV-1080 😂
The JV-1080 rocks. I have the Falcon on my "possible" list. I just checked out Zebra last night as a matter of fact. I just bought some interesting libraries from Spitfire Audio that are only $29. Thanks for writing back.
I was missing the point and was all stuck the marketing strategy. The offers are difficult to navigate nowadays. I get it better now. Thanks, I subscribe...
I went with Rolands Ultimate cloud Play4life plan so for $1000 over five years I will have 10 lifetime licenses on whichever models I choose. In the meantime I have access to pretty much all. Only time will tell if it was a good idea as they could just decide to shut it off whenever. 🎶🎶🎹🎹🎶🎶😁 Play On
Tried Roland Cloud but many users including myself had constant issues with online authentication. Wouldn't even work half the time. Having an Arturia midi keyboard, getting V Collection 8 for dirt cheap, and the file compression Arturia uses so the software takes up little space but still has high quality audio, made it an easy choice. If I went with another bundle like Komplete, I would have had to buy an external hdd for my macbook. Havent tried UVI, but I have their Steinway Model D piano plugin and it sounds awesome, and much better than Arturia and Logic Pro's pianos.
I prefer the way UVI sounds, but like the Arturia presets more.
I feel that UVI tries to add a modern interpretation to their presets, which takes away from it’s authenticity.
Arturia’s don’t sound as authentic, but I feel they try to stay more true to the authentic gear.
The difference is obvious even while watching their promo videos/music demos. UVI attempts to establish how these vintage synths can be used in modern music. If I want modern, I’d stick with other synths.
I wish UVI embraced the vintage sound more and their presets reflected this.
Really helpful.
Arturia’s V Collection is quite amazing. A huge amount of great sounds. I’ve been playing around with Roland Cloud just a bit. Not as inspiring as the V Collection. Some of it sounds really good though. I have not tried Vintage Vault. I don’t want any more disk space used up though. Speaking of which, I have IK Multimedia’s Syntronik 2, and they have some stuff you don’t see elsewhere and the sound quality is top notch. If I could just have one, it would be the V Collection. Add Pigments, and you have everything you would need. I might try Korg’s collection at some point because I do like their sounds quite a bit.
I love this channel! Cheers from Winnipeg!
Thanks David!
I knew a David Smith in Montreal in the 90’s. Would it be you by coincidence?
@@Nu-trix I lived in Ottawa at that time, visited Montreal in the 80s on skateboard trips!
An update with Korg Collection 3 might be nice? Included items tend to be either easy to use with large patch libraries OR easier to learn and explore. (Odyssey, MonoPoly, etc.)
I can only recommend it, it's an awesome collection!
UVI sample libraries are often dual layer, with some kind of arpeggiator as well, plus its UVI Workstation is a multitimbral host itself. What about Syntronik 2 Max and Korg Collection 3?
Arturia and korg imo... Roland cloud sucks
I compared V-collection and Roland Cloud on my brand new M1pro MacBook Pro and unfortunately the Roland Cloud synths was not usable. They sounded good but the performance was terrible. Even on this extremely powerful computer. I was able to use like 2 synths and then the sound start to crackle. I’ve never seen this problem with the synths in the v-collection, or any other vst for that matter. I also tried the zenology version of the synths and the performance improved drastically but I don’t think they sounded as good and I did not like the UI.
I hope Roland fix that quickly. I’m running them on a MacBook i7 without any problem.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder if anyone else has had this problem or if it's a Mac thing. Hope others will comment here.
It seems to be an M1 chip problem.
Yeah I’ll test it again when they support the M1 :)
@@Nu-trix The M1 has been out for ages but it seems many developers have still not updated their software to run on it. Are you totally PC?
I studied FM Synthesis in 1990. I've only played a DX7 once since. Never owned any FM synth
Get dexed..
If your good on money f'em by traktion
@@stephenroldan5107 I actually already have the Arturia V Collection. I meant a hardware FM synth
UVI or Arturia I cant support sub services
You can buy the Roland ones. I have 2.
and there's Korg Collectioin
Oh great stuff mate. Roland definitely is not for me, what a joke of a company. Arturia sounds exciting
Its a great collection. Just get it on splice
Good review would be great if there were sounds for the vst
I have other videos dedicated to the sounds of these bundles.
Great video and so well explained, can you tell me how to get the once off payment for Roland Cloud Ultimate as I can’t find it anywhere only the 199 annual payment thanks. I think you called it a “Lifetime License “
You cannot get the Roland Cloud ultimate with a lifetime license. The ultimate is a membership (monthly or yearly). The ultimate gives you access to almost everything from the Roland Cloud ( no the hardware expansion of update Like N/zyme model expansion for fantom, the volcal designer model expansion for the Jupiter XM or the V-Drums TD-50X module upgrade). But if you only want to have a couple of expansion and patches you can buy a lifetime key for it.
Hey thanks for this tutorial! How can i learn the best way each synth from the v collection? I would be greatful for your advice.
Each of the v collection is en most aspects a recreation of the original synth. You’ll have to learn each of them.
@@Nu-trix that what so cool also :) just explore all features and time would tell :)
Should I get U-he Diva or the V collection 9?
It’s a question of personal taste.
I like the Arturo’s V collection because of the wide range of different synthesis in it , but it means, learning many different soft synths.
Stick to Arturia and Korg collection
To me arturia la the best in second place UVI and last place Roland
Maby I am wrong but…. The zen core technology is not the same then it was in the boutique and system 8.
It’s much better then those…
I had Roland talk about the differences I this video : th-cam.com/video/yaGv4apfQww/w-d-xo.html
What about Sytronik by Ik Multimedia?
Syntronik 2 is the best..
Arturia plugins are way, way better than Roland stuff and most of UVI products I heard are more impressive than Roland plugins.
Roland and Uvi is top !! Arturia dont like !!! I buy Zenology pro just for dont have money for buy all roland vst !!! Very like graphics
Not Roland.