World of Warships - Silent Hunter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
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Hello all, the captain of this replay here. O7
First of all thank you Jingles for featuring me. Your commentary was spot on as always.
Secondly I would like to thank everyone that watch this video and maybe comment it and liked it. I'm a mediocre captain at best so this warms my heart very much. If you don't like it that is cool too. :)
I also 100% agree people that disagree with my choices and/or what I did or did not do. We all have room to improve. As there are quite a lot of comments I might not be able to reply to all so here is a summary.
"You suck at torping": That is very true! :D
"Why U not smoke?": In my experience smokes draw a lot of attention. If I use smoke enemy team will have their full attention focused on me. Map pinging, hydroes, CV etc. Also in this match my thinking was that I must stay hidden and/or move quickly in the most of the situations. Using smoke would not help me to achieve those goals.
"Why U not repair": Fair point again. I had couple of resources in this match. I cant regenerate health so that is my main concern most of the time. OK, my engine or rudder is broken but I have Last Stand. So I can keep on going with those broken things but catching a permanent fire is a bad thing.
"Why U not aggressive?": In this match this playstyle paid off. Sometimes it does, sometimes not.
"Your position was bad and dangerous": True. But in my thinking I could have disengaged when needed. That Mino luckily decided not to hunt me.
There were awesome players in this match, friendlies and enemies. The enemy div was awesome and GL was the most worthly enemy one could hope for. Friendly Amagi was the chad of this mtach with crucial kills and damage dealt. Unfortunately there was some bad language and needless negative waves. I honestly believe that we all make mistakes so perhaps you give some slack to others and focus on supporting your teammates.
Anyways, this has become a far too long comment already so Fair Winds and Following Seas to everyone. :)
if more players were like you I would consider coming back to the game. kudos to you. :)
it's crazy how people get obsessed about the "right" way to play a game, you demonstrated some very good thinking, i was educated.
Suboptimal plays or not, I think your careful thinking about how to engage more and stronger opponents safely(-ish), would have made the Finns who fought in the Winter War very proud!
Amazing performance Cap'n @Marder_fin. Thanks for sharing. 😉
This is not a World of Warships replay, it's a snooker match replay, complete with hushed commentary from Jingles. :D
Love that! 🤣😂
I just wanted him to go "ooooh, and that's a bad miss!" :D
@@kristianfischer9814 Where's the cue ball going?!
I'd actually pay to see a snooker match narrated by Jingles...
@@novocainDaimon every point value would be wrong
Man that MangoMaster was rage inducing just on his own
Seriously every time someone's mouthy they have 0 kills
Someone said i was useless once, i was the only one defending an entire left flank (lemmingtrain to the right alert) and managed to do so for almost entire match and getting 5 kills (fully upgraded Tiger 1 H with full crew skills
just like the sex starved are usually mouthy buggers mate
Mad because bad?
@@mee4062 yes, people who dont get sex tend to be frustrated.
I was really hoping someone on the enemy team would tell him to stfu no one cares.
Let’s give credit to the Golden Lion, he was a very very good player, he knew he had to go for that destroyer and he did his utter best but our friend in the Fletcher might have been Thrawn from StarWars.
:D
Playing silently is a nice concept. Good luck with a Malta, Petro and Balao on your flank.
Thats what I do back in 2017-19 I believe (before the cv reworks) with fubuki just roaming around between cap without detected (unless with aircraft) and launched single torp set at various enemy as I can and point win with solo warrior. Now its almost impossible to play stealthly and I dont play it again since cv rework.
Yeah, unfortunately you can only rarely play this way in todays meta with a DD because of the shit you gotta deal with. Planes spotting you, radar spotting you, subs hunting you. There is little reason to be so passive when chances are you're gonna get spotted or flushed out of position anyway.
@@josephmurphy6127 not to mention the German underwater radar - has had my 8km torp Shimakaze chewed up by Curry Wurst secondaries due to that one...
The graphics in this game just keep getting better. The fog combined with the foam on the water and the way the ship rocks violently on the waves all make it feel like colorized wartime footage.
Not only that but I think they updated the graphics on some of the operations too. If you play Killer Whale, the water now looks even more realistic, with some choppy spots closer to shore, and then some more peaceful spots in more open water.
Too bad the actual gameplay doesn't match, and is, in fact, the exact opposite.
Art Department hard carry.
It's extra awful on console lol
@@screaminscott4447 looks great in Xbox series x
Jingles: The enemy team has a Takahashi of their own. And that is a very dangerous light cruiser
Me: Starts laughing uncontrollably.
Yeah - I did, too. You’ve seen Flamu’s recent videos in Shimanto and Yodo, I take it?
Think he meant dangerous in relation to the Fletcher. In that case, yes, Takashi is pretty dangerous.
@@lionellines6351 Yes lol
@@_sarcasticat_2126 derpaderpaderp hahahahaha.
O wait, he means in relation to a Fletcher.
Derpaderpaderp......
Had to scroll down to see incase someone had made this comment as soon as I heard that. Did not disappoint.
Thanks so much for putting this up for us. Modder Fin you sir are an excellent player and congrats on that stellar win! :)
His name is MarderFIN
@@2stepsaway820 Congrats to him too !
That was the BEST destroyer play I've seen on replay Rear Admiral. This fellow clearly knows what it takes to win a battle, and is well deserved of this replay and his battle citations. Brilliant play. Loved every minute of this thanks to both of you. 🤗😊
Hi! As "The Captain" of this video I thank you for your kind words. This video is over an year old but I'm most happy that it still brings enjoyment. :)
Now that's a Destroyer player WOW's thanks for reminding us....
I really appreciate your kind words! :)
I've only watched the video until about 11:58 yet so I don't know what is yet to come about this. But that U-2501 first used it's Submarine Surveillance at 5:18 so it went off at 6:18. The cooldown is normally 2 minutes and was about 1 minute and 48 seconds in this case so he activated it again at 8:05. This lasted until 9:05 and the cooldown went until about 10:53. So he could not activate it earlier. It was still on cooldown. The fact that the enemy sub was not visible on the second activation is a sign that it probably was at the surface as they are only shown if submerged. So he possibly could have spotted it if he went to the surface as well or maybe a rough localization with the hydrophone. Considering the Vladivostok had a line of sight to shoot at him and the enemy U-2501 would have spotted him too it would have been risky to surface. Therefore there was almost nothing the friendly U-2501 could have done. The Amagi is the only one to blame for not noticing the enemy sub not beeing spottet between 8:06 and 9:06 and possibly should have been more cautious. The enemy sub wasn't even spotted on the third activation of Submarine Surveillance between 10:57 and 11:57 as it probably still is surfaced.
Edit: Actually during the 8:05-9:05 activation the enemy sub has also activated the Submarine Surveillance so the Vladivostok did launch some depth charges at him. So as soon as he got spotted there I probably would have surfaced to get the enemy U-2501 spotted too. It still would have been risky as the main guns of a bb are additionally more of a threat than just the depth charges. So it is hard to tell. This could have changed things a bit. This was maybe the worst part of the friendly subs play, not the 'late' use of the Submarine Surveillance.
Nice analysis ... guess the Amagi just wasn't paying attention when it should have been, and then blamed someone else for it.
But sub player bad!
@@ZenoDovahkiin same as CV players - always good to have a scapegoat handy..... especially fun if the offended complainer has little or no clue of another class' mechanics
What's the most dangerous thing in this game besides Aircraft Carriers? A Destroyer captain who's capable of thinking and breathing at the same time! Props to MarderFin for a well played Destroyer game, showing what a cold calculating and patient Destroyer Captain can do!
Thank you mate!
Earlier in the battle, the U-2501 used his surveillance. It was most likely on cooldown until after the Amagi died. (I haven't played in a while, not sure how long the cooldown is)
Yes it was. He used it at 5:18-6:18 and at 8:05-9:05 so the cooldown went off just about at 10:53. Base preparation is 5 minutes 30 seconds. It is active for 1 minute and base cooldown is 2 minutes. On the second and third time using it the enemy sub wasn't spotted. So he was probably at the surface. Surfacing could have given the position of the enemy sub but the enemy would have also spotted him with a Vladivostok in line of sight to shoot at him. The only option would have been Hydrophone to get a general idea of the position without actually spotting the enemy sub. The Amagi should have paid more attention and should have been more cautious.
Don’t tell “MangoMaster” that, his ego is already fragile enough as is
I have watched hundreds of WOWs replays. This is a truly impressive demonstration of skill and battle smarts. I actually downloaded it hoping to learn DD play from it. He should rename himself “ cool hand Luke”.
Gday Jingkes.
I am lukewarm at best 🤝
15:50 he wanted to reset the cap, that's why he started shooting
Yes, that was my thinking
That golden lion was like the terminator lol
damn man, upon spotting the title i immediately thought Jingles was featuring a submarine game.
however, now i have watched the video i am very happy to have watched this master class in using a destroyer.
I was positively suprised too! :D
I giggled when you said the Takahashi was a very dangerous light cruiser.
I've been living under a rock in terms if Warships recently.
Are the Japanese light cruisers pretty bad?
@@empress_alex Some of the worst in the game, every one of them lol
That and Jingles saying Fin could rely on the friendly Takahashi being able to beat the enemy Minotaur. One of the best light cruisers against one of the worst. All things being equal of course a Mino is going to dumpster a Takahashi.
@@empress_alex - The highlight of the entire line is the T6 Gokashi. The higher tier ships drop off the fun meter very quickly. The T8 to T10 ships have excellent 360 degree fast turning turrets, with lots of guns (T8 and T9 have 15 guns, T10 has 18 guns). But their crews hand make each shell in real time before loading them into the guns. Every shell, every gun, every time you fire them. Plus they are huge boats, with atrocious turning circles. The T10 Yodo even has a larger turning circle than the Yamato. Seriously.
This game was so incredibly enjoyable to watch compared to the guns blazing ones!
Ong gives you a fuzzy feelin ngl
@@jezuznevweraz8800 WoWS ASMR?
A masterclass by marderFIN! Enjoyed his gameplay and as usual, Jingles' commentary!
Jingles was truly a great commentator again!
What an amazing display by that destroyer driver, as this old man says, never underestimate a thinking man under a hat, because if you can't get the sun in his eyes, he won't make a mistake, and chances are you will... Marder there seems to have a really big hat. Sombrero maybe? On a Finn? Whatever, it kept the sun out of his eyes and honestly it never even felt like the other team was going to win, the question was how they would fail.
I can only assume the suddenly immobile battleship lost his internet connection? At least he has an excuse for defeat, the rest of them were just flat out beaten.
I would not blame him. Realistically I should have been dead for some time :)
@@marder_fin That may be true, but by then they should have realized you were not behaving as they expected.
There is an old expression. that every great game is actually mostly just a bad opposition, but this game is an example of why sometimes that is not the case.
To be fair to the U-2501 on marderFIN's team, the U-2501's sub surveillance was likely still on cooldown. At 8:05 you can see it activate (1 minute use, 2 minute cooldown without flags/skills) and at 10:56 the U-2501 activated it again. This is a pattern you can see throughout the match from the U-2501 until it was sunk.
I think that sub captain was not to blame at all.
Jingles right before work
Same
Jingles, can you please go back to saying "stay safe" at the end of your videos? It feels weird to me when it's not there.
I think the stay safe was introduced with Covid. So it’s legitimate to drop it now that it’s all under control.
“Stay Safe” - From Jingles
Now back to the salt mines with uuuu
Stay safe from what?
@@OldRhino Gaijin and WG
You may no longer stay safe
Goddamn, that BB player is more salty then the ocean...
The point you were getting at starting around the 8 minute mark I think was particularly well expressed by Admiral Nimitz instructing his battlegroup Admirals: "You will be governed by the principle of calculated risk which you shall interpret to mean the avoidance of exposure of your force to attack by superior enemy forces without good prospect of inflicting, as a result of such exposure, greater damage to the enemy." Calculated Risk is the term we across the pond here use routinely to refer to that strategy.
Best regards across to the pond! :)
I don't play World of Warships, and seldom watch your videos about it, but something told me to watch this one and I'm glad I did. That was masterful destroyer play, and damn well done. Thanks for that one, Jingles!
Masterclass destroyer game, very entertaining to watch.
Thank you both Jingles and MarderFIN
Thank you
wows is the olny game ive played where i enjoyed it and continued to want to play but was driven from the game by the developers, i loved DD gunboat gameplay in wows. now i have to sate my appetite with regular jingles videos
We all here for some good entertainment! :)
That Vittorio Veneto didn't have to much trouble doing nothing.
"Shoulda Coulda Woulda" :)
We all make mistakes and sometimes perform not so... good.
What a magnificent match, inspiring to all those players out there who appreciate a refined, surgical approach, opposed to the “throw enough shit at the wall and some of it is bound to stick” 3head gameplay we often see. Perfect example of
It ain’t much, but it’s honest work.
Thank you! :)
Damn this guy was awesome! I hope we see more from him in the future!
This was my high point of TH-cam 😎
This is why I love my Swedish DDs: I you can safely open up on most enemy DDs in situations like the spotting of the enemy DD at the start.
Because you have a heal the return fire isn’t that much of an issue. Especially worth it if the enemy DD doesn’t have a heal of their own!
As a Finn I might have some opinions about Swedes but I think they are good chaps and they have fine Navy ;)
DD players on my team - spot the red ship, start firing at them, take return fire, and then smoke up. Blinds EVERYONE else on the team and we can't shoot to help them out. Almost every game, or at least the vast majority over the last 2-3 weeks if not month. They especially love to do this when the opposite red is a shitakaze who can them torp spam half the map - while never being spotted.
Even in a JB the Golden Lion airstrikes are pretty easy to avoid - esp the floaty bag things they drop.
Tom Hanks in the Fletcher!!! That was awesome.
Wow! I'm glad you showed this clip. Such restraint and good manners. Thank you for this episode. Well worth the watch.
Thanks, I really liked this match too ;)
Perfect combination of luck, skill and thinking when things go wrong.
Almost like in real world! :D
This guy was a bot executing a sane algorithm. Very well played and cool.
So you are saying I am in a scale of autism? You might be very correct... 🥸
You could've thanked the enemy Veneto, for being a gd sport. And props to the Golden Lion.
Cheers
Golden Lion had truly a great captain 👍
Just in time for lunch, well done
Same
I don‘t know if that messes up the titles, but since I get a LOT of information out of these videos (next to the great entertainment value) it‘d be super helpful if the title had the name of the ship in it.
Currently struggling for the Edinburgh and a YT search for „Jingles Edinburgh“ would save me a lot of nerves.
Thank you for your content, it makes my day multiple times a week
I saw the title and thought it would be sub play.. then I remembered this is Jingles and he would NEVER do a sub or carrier video.
Solid play, well deserved victory. One small caveat: It only happened because he didn't have the CV up his ass the entire match. Which, from personal experience, is what normally happens when you're the only DD on your team.
I think that CV did not focus on me because most off the time I was not doing anything actively. Just chilling and cruising
there she is. Morning Mighty Jangles
Finaly a battle worth watching, Thank you Jingles... There are still players with brains in game... But then again Jingles always send video's worth watching
8 minutes in: "now isn't the time" reminded me of that line from The Pink Panther-"Now is Not the time Juju!" *then later "Now, Now is the time!" 12 minutes in: Our CV isn't human in chat- LoL
Not playing like your in Choo Choo Charles.. is quite refreshing.
Been playing for over 5 years and only gotten the solo warrior 1 time so this is an extremely hard medal to get so congrats to him
Not that many Solos in my record too :)
I go on and off of youtube series' but I haven't missed a single Jingles WoWS episode for years
Someone was channeling taffy 3 pretty hard. Everything's exploding & what you see isn't matching expectations. Wonder how many of the other team rechecked the line up looking for a benson or something because fletchers are notorious gunship destroyers.?
Great comparison! 👍
"Nik, don't kill the Kaga. I need the heal."
Turns out that the "quick draw" Gouden Leeuw has some downsides. He doesn't know when not to use them.
Well played though Marder. I've met a lot of destroyer captains that would have lost that.
We all make mistakes and that GL captain really played well!
Thank you Jingles you never fail to put out amazing content! One of the few content creators who I always click the like button before even watching the video...lol
I always appreciate a display of skill!
Damn Jingles! Did TH-cam forgot your video ?!?!
Really appreciated this as a new DD player.
what a shocker that the dude bitching the whole time in chat finished bottom 5 on his team . . . the toxic ones always do . . . well played Fletcher game - as an average player who plays mainly BBs and heavy cruisers, I've been sunk by Fletchers probably more than any other ship . . . they're always a pita to play against
Looked like the Veneto's captain lost connection.
I think that it just happened there
Great video. Love you, Uncle Jingles!
Jingles is a cool uncle!
I love that TH-cam sent me a notification of this video just as I finished watching it.
TH-cam been gettin into the herb again!🤣
Finnished you mean? 😉
@@marder_fin 👏👏👏🤣
I play my Shima a lot and I loved this game. I'm not terrified to use my guns like some Japanese DD players, but it's all about having a plan--mostly an escape plan.
This was brilliant destroyer work. 🙂👍
Hmmm, I sense something new here, Jingles? Very well played, Marder_ FIN.
Thank you, there really seems to be something new
I used to try and play DDs like this... but the angry yelling from your own team, who are not likely to understand what you're doing, can really impact your mental health, and it's very hard to retain your composure if somebody bum-rushes you. Charging a hiding DD's position can be a surprisingly effective counter to this kind of play, especially after you've just seen their torpedoes go by.
Sometimes this gameplay does not work. But just give your best in every game and that is all that I ask for as a teammate :)
@@marder_fin Thanks, man... I don't play anymore, I got sick of WG's BS and I was starting to become a toxic player, so I decided it wasn't doing what I needed a game to do. But you show great leadership skill with that simple, honest reply!
And I thought I would see some great u-boating reference to Silent Hunter u-boat game.
You sneaky bloody... well played
Thank you! :D
Jingles, strippers know how to count and devide a lot better than most people... Trust me.
THANK YOU, FOR THIS VIDEO.
Overall that was a really solid game from all involved. Seemed fairly even for long enough that the fletcher was able to spot and not get too involved early
Is it weird that I'm more excited by a tactical destroyer than one who goes guns blazing?
You gotta complement that Gouden Leeuw captain. He plays like a veteran
That Captain was very skilled indeed
@marder_FIN I'd love to be that skills especially with those airstrikes
great game there, a master class in how to use a destroyer.
In Warships I've seen submarines and I've seen gameplay, but wherever there's the one there's never the other.
that was a really good play, i know my trigger finger wouldnt have been as controlled as his
Wow reserved and controlled for the win
My team did great. Amagi, sub and all
Finally a Fletcher video!!!
Wow, big brain energy the whole game. GG.
I had great friendlies in this match. And great enemies too! 👍
You didn't say "Stay Safe". I'm gonna go run with scissors now.
I play the Asashio mainly, It has very little to fight with, and mainly is put in T10 missions. it is a real challenge, and fun to mix it up with this ship
This is pure teamplay commitment. Winning game by doing his job without actual need to do any high damage numbers. Awesome stuff to watch. Amazing game, well deserved both Kraken and Absolute Chad awards!
Silent Hunter was actually a good Submarine sim.
The issue I have with the Amagi (and something you missed) is that the friendly U-2501 HAD been using his submarine surveillance, it was likely on cooldown when the Amagi got torped. You can't do much when your button isnt up lol
Nice video. Great to see good DD play featured.
Thank you mate!
Very well played game. The Fletcher driver was very skillful by
Thank you! :D
One of the best games I've seen. Powered by the brain rather than the left mouse button...
😎
I love Mr. Jingle's laugh. It sounds so fake and forced. Love it.
"He's the thinking man's destroyer player" he says while the guy is running rpf
Could you please be a bit more informative? I should just not use a captain perk that I have grinded for so long? :D
@@marder_fin RPF is not needed in randoms as it is a more CBs/Kots oriented skill than for randoms, where dpm builds reign supreme. Not only can it actively be used against you, it doesnt give you anything that the minimap cant. Pay attention to what ships are being spotted, what caps are being flipped, and where torps are coming from and you will have a very accurate idea of what the enemy DDs are up to without broadcasting your position all game at no cost to the enemy. In anything other than true comp (CB/Kots) its always better to invest in better combat potential than a niche skill that costs 4 whole points
"The matchmaker should probably just been a stripper." You, sir, owe me a new computer screen. Or at least advice on how to get coffee out of the bezel.
That was such a great match! So well played. Much better than the 200k blowouts. But in the times of CVs incredible rare.
Yup well played for sure.
Thanks mate!
Very well played.
I had a good team in support
This guy must be an asthmatic. No smoking.
I really should start smoking, life is too short!
Hey, it’s one of the two Amagis in that battle.
If anyone wants to complain about either one of us then feel free to.
Except this was just a replay that he was commentating over? Unless the Finnish player is in these comments too and I'm just being dumb lol
Your division mate should pay more attention on the messages from the consumables. The sub used its Submarine Surveillance at 5:18-6:18 and 8:05-9:05 in the video. So the cooldown was about 1:47 for him. Base cooldown is 2 minutes. He couldn't activate it again until like 10:53 and did at 10:57. As the enemy sub was not spotted between 8:05 and 9:05 when it was active the second time this means that the enemy sub was surfaced at that time and between 10:57 and 11:57 too. The Vladivostok was in line of sight to your friendly U-2501 so as soon as he would have surfaced he would have also been spotted by the enemy U-2501 and then it would have been about which BB manages to kill the other sub first. The only option and the only thing that could have been done here would have been the hydrophone consumable and this would not spot the enemy sub but only show his position with a certain frequency. Would have been better to be a bit more cautious as the sub wasn't spotted between 8:05 and 9:05.
@@ryapowa didn't look at the matchup beforehand when commenting, got a bit too excited when I realised I was in it :v
@jingles, The tokachi is not scary. It may have fifteen 150mm cannons, but those also come with a 15 second base reload. Ibuki has a faster reload and is stealthier. So when tokachi didn't kill the mino with 1 salvo, the Mino got multiple salvos off, probably even getting the kill before Tokachi finished reloading
I cant blame that guy, in my opinion Minotaur had the upper hand. In a hindsight I should have been able to land my torps but failed to do so.
Salute to MarderFIN. Calm, cool, and collected.
Thank you!
18:05
I think the enemy Vittorio Veneto ran aground and got himself stuck on the island.
Or had disconnecting issues or some real life things to do? It is just a game, other things are important too 👍
The title of this replay would lead me to believe that this is a submarine replay, but it’s not
Usually my gameplay is SUBstandard
@@marder_fin
*points to the door*
Get Out
3:13 I never knew Italian battleships carried torpedoes. Thanks for enlightening me Mr. Jingles ^^
Edit: o7 to marderFIN
Jingles, come on, it's RDF (Radio Direction Finding). A position implies both range and bearing.
Back to the salt mines!😎
What a fantastic example
Thank you for your kind words!
And thats why you dont go to war against the Finns!
Perkele! :D