"Losing a scout early costs a lot of map information." Jokes on you my scout would be idle in the corner of the map with full health for the rest of the game.
Jokes on you, i only play on explored No, just kidding, but some games i come to the point of just sending my scout basically anywhere so he wont be idle
A lot of big pro games are decided by one of them managing to pull off something like that in the early game. If one player thinks he will not get away with it, chances are he will not defend against it either, something being too balsy once in a while is an effective surprise.
HECKproductions on a neuron level, it would be theoretically faster to do 1 + space with two different fingers than 1 twice. Try using a stop watch with a Start/Split and a Stop button on the top, and pressing the start/split button twice in a row and seeing what the timer says, and then try pressing start and then the other stop button with a different finger as quickly as possible. You will have a hard time beating 0.10 seconds by pressing the same button twice, but can easily reach 0.02 or 0.01 by using two fingers. That's not WHY I do it with two fingers, but objectively it is a faster method :)
They actually must go around the TC clockwise as opposed to widdershins as shown in the video. this is because the villagers expect the knights to go faster than they do, and thus overshoot.
Hey man.. as an engineer I enjoy so much the deepness and rigurosity of your explanations and I like to see your videos even tought I left this game years ago.. Also I loled at the fahrenheit joke.. Keep it going! Greetings from Argentina :)
Hello Mr Law! I notice you've started using clips from aoe3 in your intro, does that mean we can expect some vids from the 3rd sequel, or are you staying classic? cheers, for the vids - keep em coming
the last couple of days i was like man i want a fucking spiritofthelaw video its been ages dis gon b gud and i finally got aoe 2 hd yay so if any medicore player wants to get is butt handed
Very interesting test subject. I think that the staggered formation works slightly worse in this case because the back rowof archers a a bbit closer to the TC, hence easier to shoot. By the way, to get the red cursor back to normal during a game, go to the options menu and change Vsync setting ;)
dude, these videos are very useful for me; actually, I believe that any intermediate player (I would say 1700 - 1850 HD) can benefit a lot from these, since from that lvl of experience onwards the little details actually starts to add up in real advantages.
Marcus Frisbee so is "mathmatics". I thought it was charming, though. I would never reject a fan-submitted intro over something as trivial as spelling haha
One key point of dodging arrows is, change your unit(s) direction L/R instantly after the arrow is aimed every time, then the arrow would miss its target (even with 100% accuracy) because the arrow was going to hit the exact point its target is (or with a little spread) before you change direction, I could say you wouldn't even take any damage for the whole escape. It's all about practice!
If you double hit 1 (your scout hotkey), it'll not only select your scout but also center on him like the spacebar would. You may prefer the space bar (since you're already used to it) but thought I'd point the double-hit as well in case you didn't know about it.
Since TCs seem to keep targeting the same archer as long as it stays in range, maybe you could save even more archers by selecting the group the TC shot at and splitting that one, sending the other half out of range in a straight line.
Did you consider that when you change formation to loose when retreating in a straight line your rear most archers essentially waited for the group to get in formation, essentially exposing itself to extra damage? The result might be different if your group is already in spread formation and/or oriented to the retreat direction before you trigger tc aggro
The split thing works great in this game, in AoE 1 you could just zigzag or time a feint just before the arrow shot (especially when they research accuracy as it makes them miss). If they had no accuracy, horses could dodge forever due to no arrow spread.
Pro tip: you can also press the assignment hotkey twice to switch to the unit view. For example, if your scout is on hotkey 1, tapping 1 twice will do the same thing as pressing 1, then space.
You can just press H for town center, no need to hothey is. Also I think pressing the hotkey twice is the same as hotkey + space (it's so automatic that I'm not sure though...).
Hey Spirit, I had three questions when i saw this video: You seem to prefer spiralling to the left, but this keeps the units in range of the town center. I wonder what would happen if you spiralled away of the TC instead of towards it? When changing the formation of your units, it seems like their speed increases in the direction of the new formation. Is this true? and if so, could one use this to dodge shots? (from onagers for example) Why isn't loose formation used against siege heavy races? greater distance between units should decrease damage received from especially onagers and scorpions right? Anyway, great vid!
This is great video that I did find pretty informative. Though I do feel the results would be different online with lag and other variables (Houses/buildings in the way) I feel like just running directly away is the best option unless in most cases :) Keep it up spirit :)
Awesome videos! I assume that you created a map for testing? If the results are influenced by a pathfinding micro like at 8:19, it might help to use scenery to increase the consistency of the micro. Scenery like carpets and leaves etc have no collision and can be a useful landmark to assist in aim. However, I doubt that the difference in results pay-offs of the extra needed time to set it up.
What if the TC in the video had 15 vils garrisoned? Would the results you showed us change somehow (a part from the split formation you already told us)? Also: woohoo the wheelbarrow and hand cart upgrade! I've waited so long for this video! Thanks for your hard work Spirit, i (we) really appreciate it!!
if the other guy got ballistics you can still get away if you make a 90° turn right after he fires in an online game where it takes up to a second to respond this doesnt work though
HECKproductions it's true. I can't remember if I put in the part of the clip where I have a light cavalry circling the town center. I did it a couple of times, and there were a few moments I could avoid a shot if I happened to be changing direction right after the arrows came out. VERY hard to do in a game, but possible!
you did have that part but you were talking about how its possible if the enemy DOESNT have ballistics i was just saying that while its a lot harder its possible too with ballistics
In your video I noticed you ran away from the diagonal side (the bottom of the diamond). Now if the TC shoots from the center, this is perfectly fine, as you are closest to the edge if that edge is a circle around the TC. If however the TC shoots in an edge the shape of the TC, you are actually in range of arrows longer by running away on the diamond side (as you know Pythagoras' theorem). If the TC shoots from the center of its 4x4 (6x6, 8x8?) tiles, no big deal. That means its attack radius is a circle. If it shoots from the edge of its 4x4 tiles (diamond), then those shots are no longer in a circle, but in a larger diamond area. I hope this makes sense and has a simple answer :)
Mick Corcoran I can't remember whether I changed my hotkey to middle click and that it was originally something else, or that it was always middle click. But it's easy to access
Mick Corcoran It's super useful if we miss the flash on the minimap to where the notification happened, like if you grab a relic, just middle click then you're by your monk. Take the relic back. Your scout is being attacked? Middle click. Run away!
Here is how I would do it with the archers: Whenever the TC fires arrows, I would make them turn around while walking a bit further away from the TC every time.. Works best vs enemies with ballistics. Using formations while doing it might also make it work better.
Hey spirit of the law, I thought of experiment that you could make a video about. When playing random map, your economy will be much better than your opponents if you are able to delay the loom research until just before you hit the feudal button. However, doing so leads to the problem of trying to lure a boar to your towncenter without LOOM, which can really suck if your boar is very far away and can end up killing your villager. But experts have found a way to utilize the sheep by running interference between the boar and the villager, giving the villager more distance and a better chance to garrison into the towncenter as soon as possible. Also, some experts try to lure their boars with a scout, but I don't know how effective that is, or if it's worth it to try. Maybe this could be an experiment to try out?
Great video, but you did not take into account that units change their formation slightly when they travel long distances, better said they take more arrows when you order them to go further away while making spirals around the tc than when you order them to do just a short move.
I remember when I played my first ever skirmish game of Aoe2 I sent about 2 dozen archers/skirmishers up against a town center and they got annihilated. I eventually figured out that melee soldiers worked better.
MaxQuantum Yes, they do, and you don't even need reaction time, just good timing (predicting when the arrows will be fired). Same thing with lag; timing is key.
tankimarkgraaf What you can do is continuously move the unit back and forth really quickly and then the arrows will always be fired where you would have been if you kept on going in that direction, so if you just go back to where you were when the arrows were fired you would miss them and then be able to run away.
4:24 holy shit that joke got me unguarded. for a second i was like REALLY THEY USE F FOR ANGLES? i started laghin hard when realised its a joke splitsecond later.
Hi there! cool video as always. What about splitting the group of archers into two groups moving in different directions? It would reduce the spread damage since only one group can be targeted at once. Plus the split technique on the targeted group, I would assume the damage taken would be reduced. It probably isn't worth the time it would consume, and also its highly impractical since you end with two separate group of archers instead of one, but might be interesting to see just how much damage can you reduce mixing all kind of techniques, just to find the *ultimate* running-away-from-tc-fire-technique.
Hi Spirit. I've watched your videos since the beginning and have enjoyed them. Keep up the good work! One request I have is to do a video on slinging: it's full of math so maybe you might be interested!
Spirit could you do a vid about the choice of upgrading vs recruiting. for eg. should get the farm upgrade for my 5 farms or use the resources for something better and later on when i have 15 farms i upgrade. You did the paladin/cavalier video which was great and now i don't upgrade my cavaliers unless i have heaps of them or surplus gold, but could you do another vid about upgrading troops. should i spend the resources to get cavalry upgrades like bloodlines and the blacksmith cav upgrades or should i spend those resources on actual knights, becasue there is a a good argument that cav upgrades wont save your base from attack but several kngiths un-upgraded might... cheers mate, awosme channel.
Only unexperienced players ring the bell when they see an enemy scout, its more efective to select the group of vills and then garrison and ungarrison. So be careful with the scout vs people that dont ring bells 11
Double Tapping '1' will Centre your scout quicker and Town Centres are already Hot Keyed to 'H' by default... Will help save precious seconds in Pro games I think...
At the start you said you hotkey your TC. The game already has by default the TC hotkeyed to H. Also one method you didn't try was removing the archer under fire. The TC will be focussing only one archer, if you make that one archer do the 90 degree trick while the rest of the archers just stroll away. Pretty tough micro but I reckon it's possible with practice. I don't know if this would be more effective than the split formation though.
trevor Wilkinson The downside to using H (or any keyboard hotkey for this matter) though is that the camera automatically centers the TC. So if you're just happily scouting and you need to queue more villagers, using a control group hotkey won't move the camera away from the scout and to the TC. That however isn't such a big deal if you have your scout on hotkey anyway since you can jump right back.
trevor Wilkinson I prefer to use numbers rather than H because it involves less movement of my hand. H is also awkwardly placed in the middle of the keyboard, and I can basically leave my fingers over top of the spacebar and the first couple of numbers for most of the game. I have my hand positioned there because I use WASD for camera movement, though, so I have a custom setup around that. Using H to find TCs makes more sense to me when I have multiple town centers and want to go HCHCHCHCHC to cue up villagers. As for the micro of one archer, I don't think I would be able to identify which villager is under attack in time to micro him away. They die after a max of two direct arrow rounds, although maybe you would be better able to do this. The split saves ALL the archers for me at least half the time, which is saying something haha. I'd be curious to see it in action, though
Spirit Of The Law Do you have side buttons on your mouse? AoE also seems to automatically set one of them to the TC. makes it very easy and fast to jump to the TC. If not this can be happily ignored ofc.
Kaotic Phoenix just about gave me a heart attack! haha. Nah, I have it the right direction, I was saying 2 half health archers are better than 1 full health and a dead one. Crocodile eats the bigger number :)
Kaotic Phoenix Gotcha. the open end points toward the side that is greater. So 6 < 10 means "6 is less than 10" and 10 > 6 means "10 is greater than 6." I just remember that it looks like a crocodile and it eats the bigger number ;)
Tom Scorpion I didn't notice that, but yes, that would affect the damage output and make that particular run look a better than it should have been. I think the conclusions I made were general enough that I'm pretty confident in the overall trends and differences between the strategies.
Is there a specific reason you hotkey your TC as 2 rather than hitting "H" which'll take you there anyway? I get that later in the game you'll have multiple TCs and it'll cycle but early on, I have no idea.
Hi @SpiritoftheLaw, I was looking for a video about usefulness of garrisoning towers to augment their fire against tower plus regular units. I would really like to hear your take on that :) thanks, merry 2019
+Nicholas Calokerinos or rephrased how many villagers should you have before building farms assuming you have 2 boars 10 squares away from the town centre and 5 sheep? (Please make a video on this) Thankyou!!
The first original games of AOE have the best music...i still have the AOE, AOE kings, AOE Mythology and AOE Conquerors...they are 30 min long each (give or take a few min)...
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"For you Americans that's 113 degrees farenheit" Thank you for that.
I lol'd so much
"Losing a scout early costs a lot of map information."
Jokes on you my scout would be idle in the corner of the map with full health for the rest of the game.
Jokes on you, i only play on explored
No, just kidding, but some games i come to the point of just sending my scout basically anywhere so he wont be idle
@@heidtb6746 Jokes on you, where i don't have enough micro i have him on auto scout
1: run around the tc in dark age
2: send the sheep to your tc
3: ????
4: *TownBellNoob1234 resigned*
+HECKproductions That's why I love Celts.
+HECKproductions Steal their sheep. Kill their deer. Wall their berries. Lure their boar away.
+Jack awesome stuff but we both know that any player with the least bit of skill will not fall for that
A lot of big pro games are decided by one of them managing to pull off something like that in the early game. If one player thinks he will not get away with it, chances are he will not defend against it either, something being too balsy once in a while is an effective surprise.
113 degrees Fahrenheit goddammit Spirit! lmao that was hilarious.
ARegularPanda Lol was about to comment this, cracked me up!
"And then doing splits as I ran away" Thanks Spirit, I needed that image XD It's like, extreme jumping jacks
you can press 1 twice which might be faster by a fraction of a second if your right doesnt happen to be on spacebar
HECKproductions on a neuron level, it would be theoretically faster to do 1 + space with two different fingers than 1 twice. Try using a stop watch with a Start/Split and a Stop button on the top, and pressing the start/split button twice in a row and seeing what the timer says, and then try pressing start and then the other stop button with a different finger as quickly as possible. You will have a hard time beating 0.10 seconds by pressing the same button twice, but can easily reach 0.02 or 0.01 by using two fingers. That's not WHY I do it with two fingers, but objectively it is a faster method :)
Spirit Of The Law that's meta as fuck, lol
count in the time your thumb needs to "aim" at the spacebar and youll get some more milliseconds out of that
Spirit Of The Law Mind blown! :D
left hand thumb on space ... profit ??
That a master-piece plan you made there, and the archer replies was juste hilarious.
Nice sence of humour you have, keep the good work
Will this work with Teutonic knights?
Teutonic knights can just chuck norris the tc in 10 seconds.
They actually must go around the TC clockwise as opposed to widdershins as shown in the video. this is because the villagers expect the knights to go faster than they do, and thus overshoot.
Im not here for the video, Im just here for that old intro ❤️
Hey man.. as an engineer I enjoy so much the deepness and rigurosity of your explanations and I like to see your videos even tought I left this game years ago..
Also I loled at the fahrenheit joke.. Keep it going! Greetings from Argentina :)
Hello Mr Law! I notice you've started using clips from aoe3 in your intro, does that mean we can expect some vids from the 3rd sequel, or are you staying classic? cheers, for the vids - keep em coming
That temperature joke was perfect XD
the last couple of days i was like man i want a fucking spiritofthelaw video its been ages
dis gon b gud
and i finally got aoe 2 hd
yay
so if any medicore player wants to get is butt handed
Very interesting test subject.
I think that the staggered formation works slightly worse in this case because the back rowof archers a a bbit closer to the TC, hence easier to shoot.
By the way, to get the red cursor back to normal during a game, go to the options menu and change Vsync setting ;)
Thanks SOTL. Genius.
I can't wait to play this game.
dude, these videos are very useful for me; actually, I believe that any intermediate player (I would say 1700 - 1850 HD) can benefit a lot from these, since from that lvl of experience onwards the little details actually starts to add up in real advantages.
just press 1 twice really fast, like a double click, it's faster.
"Overveiws" is spelled wrong in the intro. Just a heads up.
Marcus Frisbee so is "mathmatics". I thought it was charming, though. I would never reject a fan-submitted intro over something as trivial as spelling haha
It’s also a bad intro
I think the (only) reason that switching between split formation works so well is because it seems to increase the speed of the archers.
+Shoes yeah, but they also change their direction quickly so they escape from the arrows
Not really. The main thing is that when the archers change direction so often, the TC fire can't hit them so well.
One key point of dodging arrows is, change your unit(s) direction L/R instantly after the arrow is aimed every time, then the arrow would miss its target (even with 100% accuracy) because the arrow was going to hit the exact point its target is (or with a little spread) before you change direction, I could say you wouldn't even take any damage for the whole escape. It's all about practice!
You can double click 1 as well
Im always so happy when i see you upload a new video
Nice Age of Empires 3 reference. Now if was a sneak to a new line of videos on Age of Empires 3, I would be EVEN MORE interested in your videos.
Have you done a video on the hotkeys you typically use?
If you double hit 1 (your scout hotkey), it'll not only select your scout but also center on him like the spacebar would. You may prefer the space bar (since you're already used to it) but thought I'd point the double-hit as well in case you didn't know about it.
It's one of the best scientific experimental vidéo I saw on youtube, and it's note based on studying the nature. Great job !
Since TCs seem to keep targeting the same archer as long as it stays in range, maybe you could save even more archers by selecting the group the TC shot at and splitting that one, sending the other half out of range in a straight line.
Did you consider that when you change formation to loose when retreating in a straight line your rear most archers essentially waited for the group to get in formation, essentially exposing itself to extra damage? The result might be different if your group is already in spread formation and/or oriented to the retreat direction before you trigger tc aggro
The split thing works great in this game, in AoE 1 you could just zigzag or time a feint just before the arrow shot (especially when they research accuracy as it makes them miss). If they had no accuracy, horses could dodge forever due to no arrow spread.
Pro tip: you can also press the assignment hotkey twice to switch to the unit view.
For example, if your scout is on hotkey 1, tapping 1 twice will do the same thing as pressing 1, then space.
I like how your old video are still relevant
You can just press H for town center, no need to hothey is. Also I think pressing the hotkey twice is the same as hotkey + space (it's so automatic that I'm not sure though...).
Thank you for the fahrenheit conversion, I wouldn't have understood it otherwise.
Wide formation or loose formation is used online. Its quite effective to reduce the chance of massive losses to mangonel shots.
Dam, it took me more than a year to learning side step in boxing, and here he is using these 45 degree perfectly
Hey Spirit,
I had three questions when i saw this video:
You seem to prefer spiralling to the left, but this keeps the units in range of the town center. I wonder what would happen if you spiralled away of the TC instead of towards it?
When changing the formation of your units, it seems like their speed increases in the direction of the new formation. Is this true? and if so, could one use this to dodge shots? (from onagers for example)
Why isn't loose formation used against siege heavy races? greater distance between units should decrease damage received from especially onagers and scorpions right?
Anyway, great vid!
This is great video that I did find pretty informative. Though I do feel the results would be different online with lag and other variables (Houses/buildings in the way) I feel like just running directly away is the best option unless in most cases :) Keep it up spirit :)
Flatch Thanks. It'shard to factor in houses and other obstacles. I still think mastering the hotkey split is the way to go
I died laughing when you said that at 4:20 :"D
You don't need to press 1 then space. Just press 1 twice
Awesome videos!
I assume that you created a map for testing?
If the results are influenced by a pathfinding micro like at 8:19, it might help to use scenery to increase the consistency of the micro.
Scenery like carpets and leaves etc have no collision and can be a useful landmark to assist in aim. However, I doubt that the difference in results pay-offs of the extra needed time to set it up.
What if the TC in the video had 15 vils garrisoned? Would the results you showed us change somehow (a part from the split formation you already told us)?
Also: woohoo the wheelbarrow and hand cart upgrade! I've waited so long for this video!
Thanks for your hard work Spirit, i (we) really appreciate it!!
I think your route of scout or archers when moving away from TC can be described as Brachistochrone curve. After you were going in circles.
According to my Age Of Kings help tooltips, the staggered formation is for avoiding onager spalsh damage so you lose less units from them.
DrearyPlane8 that's true, it's helps with onagers, but it helps with arrows too if there's a significant amount of spread
Makes sense I guess.
It's mainly used against Onagers, Scorpions and sometimes Bombard Cannons
"I'm kinda a big deal!"
-SotL's scout, Finn
Look at the loyal scout army at the bottom left, waiting to be sent to be shot at
The split formation also helps avoid onager shots. Assuming they don't have ballistics
6:06 - Sped up
if the other guy got ballistics you can still get away if you make a 90° turn right after he fires
in an online game where it takes up to a second to respond this doesnt work though
HECKproductions it's true. I can't remember if I put in the part of the clip where I have a light cavalry circling the town center. I did it a couple of times, and there were a few moments I could avoid a shot if I happened to be changing direction right after the arrows came out. VERY hard to do in a game, but possible!
you did have that part but you were talking about how its possible if the enemy DOESNT have ballistics
i was just saying that while its a lot harder its possible too with ballistics
In your video I noticed you ran away from the diagonal side (the bottom of the diamond). Now if the TC shoots from the center, this is perfectly fine, as you are closest to the edge if that edge is a circle around the TC. If however the TC shoots in an edge the shape of the TC, you are actually in range of arrows longer by running away on the diamond side (as you know Pythagoras' theorem).
If the TC shoots from the center of its 4x4 (6x6, 8x8?) tiles, no big deal. That means its attack radius is a circle. If it shoots from the edge of its 4x4 tiles (diamond), then those shots are no longer in a circle, but in a larger diamond area. I hope this makes sense and has a simple answer :)
You can just double tap 1 if you want to go to the unit that is hot keyed to 1
Or you can middle-click to go to your last notification
cOOL. Why was I not informed of this sooner :)
Mick Corcoran I can't remember whether I changed my hotkey to middle click and that it was originally something else, or that it was always middle click. But it's easy to access
Time to reseed those farms.. or examine that battler horn... Duuuh dooohhh!!! (battle sound)
Mick Corcoran It's super useful if we miss the flash on the minimap to where the notification happened, like if you grab a relic, just middle click then you're by your monk. Take the relic back.
Your scout is being attacked? Middle click. Run away!
Here is how I would do it with the archers: Whenever the TC fires arrows, I would make them turn around while walking a bit further away from the TC every time.. Works best vs enemies with ballistics. Using formations while doing it might also make it work better.
If you just hit the number you hotkey twice that also works to. Didn't know about the space bar one thought thx for tips and video
Hey spirit of the law, I thought of experiment that you could make a video about. When playing random map, your economy will be much better than your opponents if you are able to delay the loom research until just before you hit the feudal button. However, doing so leads to the problem of trying to lure a boar to your towncenter without LOOM, which can really suck if your boar is very far away and can end up killing your villager. But experts have found a way to utilize the sheep by running interference between the boar and the villager, giving the villager more distance and a better chance to garrison into the towncenter as soon as possible. Also, some experts try to lure their boars with a scout, but I don't know how effective that is, or if it's worth it to try. Maybe this could be an experiment to try out?
Ooh, extended version of the intro!
Great video, but you did not take into account that units change their formation slightly when they travel long distances, better said they take more arrows when you order them to go further away while making spirals around the tc than when you order them to do just a short move.
This works for the casttles too, no? Teutonic orders are to much slow i think, do you can prove?
nice. pretty useful info! I think you and i played a diplo game a month or so ago....you crushed everything lol
I remember when I played my first ever skirmish game of Aoe2 I sent about 2 dozen archers/skirmishers up against a town center and they got annihilated. I eventually figured out that melee soldiers worked better.
It would help if you have the Saracens on your team.
you could just double hit 1 and it will take you to your scout , saves you the trouble of reaching for the space key after hitting 1
When the opponent has ballistics, it's actually easier, because you can change direction right after the TC shoots, and it will miss.
But do humans really have that reaction time and also game may lag if it's online
MaxQuantum Yes, they do, and you don't even need reaction time, just good timing (predicting when the arrows will be fired). Same thing with lag; timing is key.
Tocaraca lag is much harder to predict tho, sometimes you get alot of it and sometimes very little, which could mess this up very badly
tankimarkgraaf What you can do is continuously move the unit back and forth really quickly and then the arrows will always be fired where you would have been if you kept on going in that direction, so if you just go back to where you were when the arrows were fired you would miss them and then be able to run away.
Do you use shift-queue for movement much? At least for me, makes it very easy to run around in circles around TCs.
4:24 holy shit that joke got me unguarded. for a second i was like REALLY THEY USE F FOR ANGLES? i started laghin hard when realised its a joke splitsecond later.
Wouldn't it be better to run away from the Town Center orthogonally, since that should get you out of the max distance more quickly?
Hi there! cool video as always. What about splitting the group of archers into two groups moving in different directions? It would reduce the spread damage since only one group can be targeted at once. Plus the split technique on the targeted group, I would assume the damage taken would be reduced. It probably isn't worth the time it would consume, and also its highly impractical since you end with two separate group of archers instead of one, but might be interesting to see just how much damage can you reduce mixing all kind of techniques, just to find the *ultimate* running-away-from-tc-fire-technique.
Or just pull out your inner AI and split it into individual archers running away, with the focused one moving 90° each time arrows are shot.
8:08 Missing info. Was this an archimedean spiral, cycloid, fermat's, etc?
Hi Spirit. I've watched your videos since the beginning and have enjoyed them. Keep up the good work! One request I have is to do a video on slinging: it's full of math so maybe you might be interested!
AHAH THIS IS THE AGE OF EMPIRE 3 TRAILER ! You are lying to us from the beggining, I knew this...
What if you duck back in towards the TC as the shot fires, will it go over your units' heads?
Spirit could you do a vid about the choice of upgrading vs recruiting. for eg. should get the farm upgrade for my 5 farms or use the resources for something better and later on when i have 15 farms i upgrade. You did the paladin/cavalier video which was great and now i don't upgrade my cavaliers unless i have heaps of them or surplus gold, but could you do another vid about upgrading troops. should i spend the resources to get cavalry upgrades like bloodlines and the blacksmith cav upgrades or should i spend those resources on actual knights, becasue there is a a good argument that cav upgrades wont save your base from attack but several kngiths un-upgraded might... cheers mate, awosme channel.
1:29 I before E except after V
Also my 1st time hearing that dominant chord at the start, thought it was something else and then the theme started
Hey, do you plan on talking about the AOC Balance Patch?
if you want to take out a tc get some rams onagars and some ranged and mele units to protect your onagars
Hmmm hot key the TC to number 2! great idea sure beats pressing H, Now can rush and still produce vills at home without having my screen go back to tc
I used to be an archer but then I took an arrow to the knee from a town center.
Just so you know, double tapping 1 is much faster than 1 + space bar. There's also really no reason not to have all your units hot keyed at all times.
When you are spiraling out with archers you are kind of doing your angle too tight, staying closer to the tc than you need to.
sometimes tour intros are f#@% insane
i think the group of archers cant be count as 1 big HP because when some died, the group size decreases
I played so much aoe, Didn't know about this.
You have your joke delivery down to a tee. Never know if your joking until you have finished the sentence. 🤣😂
thx for the free maths class
100k! ' Gratz!
How about researching Obsidian Arrows 256 times, so you one shot the TC and get no damage?
also keep in mind that with more units the split will be ineffective.
Great job! I wonder if this also applys to archer vs archer micro or galley vs galley
Only unexperienced players ring the bell when they see an enemy scout, its more efective to select the group of vills and then garrison and ungarrison. So be careful with the scout vs people that dont ring bells 11
+1 for radians. Very considerate to those whose first language is math.
Double Tapping '1' will Centre your scout quicker and Town Centres are already Hot Keyed to 'H' by default... Will help save precious seconds in Pro games I think...
At the start you said you hotkey your TC. The game already has by default the TC hotkeyed to H. Also one method you didn't try was removing the archer under fire. The TC will be focussing only one archer, if you make that one archer do the 90 degree trick while the rest of the archers just stroll away. Pretty tough micro but I reckon it's possible with practice. I don't know if this would be more effective than the split formation though.
trevor Wilkinson you should do a video about that and post it as a response
trevor Wilkinson The downside to using H (or any keyboard hotkey for this matter) though is that the camera automatically centers the TC. So if you're just happily scouting and you need to queue more villagers, using a control group hotkey won't move the camera away from the scout and to the TC. That however isn't such a big deal if you have your scout on hotkey anyway since you can jump right back.
trevor Wilkinson I prefer to use numbers rather than H because it involves less movement of my hand. H is also awkwardly placed in the middle of the keyboard, and I can basically leave my fingers over top of the spacebar and the first couple of numbers for most of the game. I have my hand positioned there because I use WASD for camera movement, though, so I have a custom setup around that. Using H to find TCs makes more sense to me when I have multiple town centers and want to go HCHCHCHCHC to cue up villagers. As for the micro of one archer, I don't think I would be able to identify which villager is under attack in time to micro him away. They die after a max of two direct arrow rounds, although maybe you would be better able to do this. The split saves ALL the archers for me at least half the time, which is saying something haha. I'd be curious to see it in action, though
Spirit Of The Law Do you have side buttons on your mouse? AoE also seems to automatically set one of them to the TC. makes it very easy and fast to jump to the TC. If not this can be happily ignored ofc.
What is the name of the song in the intro?
Plz
Gotta love the fahrenheit joke^^
I thought you were math-y, the sign at 7:07 means less than :P Either way great video Spirit, your humour makes me laugh
117℉ Haha
Kaotic Phoenix just about gave me a heart attack! haha. Nah, I have it the right direction, I was saying 2 half health archers are better than 1 full health and a dead one. Crocodile eats the bigger number :)
Spirit Of The Law Yeah I knew what you were meaning, and I never really understood that I always thought >=Greater than
Kaotic Phoenix Gotcha. the open end points toward the side that is greater. So 6 < 10 means "6 is less than 10" and 10 > 6 means "10 is greater than 6." I just remember that it looks like a crocodile and it eats the bigger number ;)
Kaotic Phoenix You have to be careful man, never accuse him of not being mathy. You gonna get yourself in trouble...
burt591 I heard one guy called him "not very mathy" this one time... he was never seen again.
but but, how many mils is 45 degrees?
I might be wrong but didn't you kill a villager once? That would certainly change the damage output, right?
Tom Scorpion I didn't notice that, but yes, that would affect the damage output and make that particular run look a better than it should have been. I think the conclusions I made were general enough that I'm pretty confident in the overall trends and differences between the strategies.
Is there a specific reason you hotkey your TC as 2 rather than hitting "H" which'll take you there anyway? I get that later in the game you'll have multiple TCs and it'll cycle but early on, I have no idea.
Pressing H makes your view snap to the Town Center's location whereas pressing 2 only selects it but doesn't take you back to it.
Hi @SpiritoftheLaw, I was looking for a video about usefulness of garrisoning towers to augment their fire against tower plus regular units. I would really like to hear your take on that :) thanks, merry 2019
Great video, although i doubt there are reckless enough players to allow a group of archers to get right next to a TC lol
sebamkfan besides me, that is? haha
Spirit Of the Law. When is the right time to build farms?
+Nicholas Calokerinos or rephrased how many villagers should you have before building farms assuming you have 2 boars 10 squares away from the town centre and 5 sheep? (Please make a video on this) Thankyou!!
+Nicholas Calokerinos 1 square = 1 wall tile
How do I get my cobra car outta the damn fire?
The first original games of AOE have the best music...i still have the AOE, AOE kings, AOE Mythology and AOE Conquerors...they are 30 min long each (give or take a few min)...