Madam Simelane doesn't seem to understand or have a grasp of what a 'conflict of interest' is, now, at her level she needs to be removed from her position with immediate effect
It is most likely a corrupt transaction. As the saying goes: "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." If she had any ounce of integrity, she would step aside while a swift investigation is conducted and concluded. The fact that she will not acknowledge the glaringly obvious conflict of interest indicates that she is unfit for this ministerial role.
@LonelyTreeSunset, this is hate speaking , not sense! You subscribe to a wrong school that; Black can't be right and White can't be wrong! Leave this minister alone, if you don't have proof!
We have the the weakest prosecutorial judiciary when it comes to looting and corruption committed by politicians. They move at a snail pace just to let cases slip under the carpet and forgotten about
The problem goes far deeper and wider. Does her "ethics" (or lack off) not filter down to our supposed agencies that are supposed to protect our country and people?
@@Qotha YES. She tried a poor, terrible cover up. Her "evidence" receipts shows she only paid years later, when the VBS Scandal had already unfolded, and being investigated and already public knowledge, and "repaid" over 3 months only(according to her receipts evidence she supplied). Another big question is where did she get the funds to pay over 3 months only? The Sandton Coffee shop didn't make money, collapsed. And Gundo Wealth Solutions was not an accredited loan company or bank. Loan Money was not even paid to her, but to a Third Party. She had a serious conflict of interest too, as the Mayor of the Municipality. Corrupt through and through. Corrupt.
@@Dave-ll8ly she says as a black person she could not get a bank loan to purchase the bistro, she has already received 2 home loans from 2 separate financial institutions 🤔
Wow, it's like she is ignorant or intentionally trying to decieve us? Why did she take a loan from a service provider? A whole mayor unable to secure a loan from a commercial bank? Come on! Just resign already! Justice minister is a honorable minsitry and we cant have this scandal surrounding it!
It's not for her to say she has done nothing wrong. She dies not have that authority. Let relevant authorities make that determination. ANC leaders don't know the difference between right or wrong.
Give her a chance! She needs time to manufacture a "proof of payment" that looks convincing, and make sure that the "evidence" will stand up to forensic scrutiny. Unfortunately for her, we already have many, many instances of ANC cadres getting large bribes which on disclosure are later declared as "loans". The question is: why are so many highly paid ANC cadres in need of "loans"?
The integrity of the judiciary is crucial for the maintenance of rule of law and public trust in legal systems. Corruption within the judiciary can have far-reaching consequences, undermining the principle of equality before the law and the right to a fair trial. When judicial decisions are influenced by bribery or favoritism, it erodes the foundation of justice, leading to a loss of confidence in the legal system and potentially destabilizing the societal order. It can also impede economic development by creating an unpredictable business environment where legal outcomes cannot be relied upon. Addressing judicial corruption requires a multifaceted approach, including strengthening legal frameworks, promoting transparency, and fostering an independent judiciary that can act without undue influence. ⚖⚖,
@@saturn-u3q ok but when does she scream? I don’t see this in the video? Also you mentioned gestures? Heidi also uses her hands when speaking, does that mean she also speaks like she is in a shebeen? You mention aggression, what aggression are you referring to? I was actually listening to an interview Helen Zille recently did on 702 and she was very much aggressive, would you say she speaks like she is in a shebeen as well? Also do people only speak loudly and use hand gestures only when they are in shebeens? What is the relationship between the behavior you are trying to call out and a shebeen?
Why would she stop paying VBS Bank, when the loan was from Gundo? Also she must release the Loan Agreement, proof of receipt from Gundo, and proof monthly and final settlement repayments.
Simelane's statement regarding having no links with VBS Mutual Bank likely refers to her denial of involvement in any activities or allegations related to the bank. VBS Mutual Bank became infamous after a massive fraud scandal in 2018, where it was found that over R2 billion was looted from the bank. Several individuals, municipalities, and companies were implicated, but it appears that Simelane is distancing herself from any association with the bank or its dealings. This involves recent news or an ongoing legal or political matter.
This is a disgrace. How can we as citizens have confidence and faith in the justice system if their head's integrity is called to question? Can't she recuse herself until the issue is investigated and closed? This issue will always hang above her head.
This lady wants to cling to power as the minister of Justice, reshuffle to another position, enca show us the whole clip please, when did she start paying this loan? Why she didn't loan from the FNB in the first place and did she tell the council she borrowed from Gundo to open the business? Watching her in this interview ndiske ndanosizi maan, she could asses that the eyes of athol is not satisfied with the explanation she gave to the portfolio committee members,
No financial institution would of given her the terms of repayment that she provided without corruption its not financially feasible. Also very weirdly she made the first repayment on the day she recieved notice it was being investigated.
So this woman is still the minister of justice? What a joke. Mampara county, lawlessness is second nature. So Ramaphosa can’t tell her to step down? She has guts.
She definitely covered her ass by making some sort of paper showing she paid it back. We all know she didn't why didn't she take a loan from a proper bank.
SIMELANE MSUT STEP DOWN. Dont waste our time as the GNU needs to move forward to improve the peoples lives. STEP DOWN NOW. Do the right thing.. There are so many WHY's and there are now answers to these WHY's
Such people goes to church where they are taught that Jesus washed people clean from their sins and potential sins. Therefore she'll never, rightly or wrongly, accept any wrongdoing.
D. O. D. G. Y. Methinks the Minister (sic) protesteth too much. Conflict of interest, whether perceived or real. Connect the dots. I get a "loan" from a company who has earned 24 million from a deposit of over R350 million illegal deposit, and I'm mayor at the time?? Connect the dots. You are lying Thembi.
Nonsense..Mrs Semelane when was your loan approved after municipal funds get into Vbs account or after withdrawn from Vbs...U make excuse of a municipal manger who was inexperience...how on earth inexperience individual on that sensitive position will just decide to take municipal funds to Vbs without proper investigations
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Let the court decides for you Simelane, we as South Africans are tired for corruptions and looters.
Unfortunately the courts cannot decide if the Corrupt and protective NPA does not bring the case forward
That's IF ramasofa allows the investigation... he like to mess with investigations into anc members.
@@cartoonfan__2006NPA captured
@@veronicakarstel9126 long time ago because the same NPA is given employment by those driving the looting
Have no confidence in the judicial system anymore, it's riddled with corruption😢😢😢😢😢
Madam Simelane doesn't seem to understand or have a grasp of what a 'conflict of interest' is, now, at her level she needs to be removed from her position with immediate effect
mxm
She thinks we are dumb
Imagine.
😂😂😂loooool
It is most likely a corrupt transaction. As the saying goes: "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." If she had any ounce of integrity, she would step aside while a swift investigation is conducted and concluded. The fact that she will not acknowledge the glaringly obvious conflict of interest indicates that she is unfit for this ministerial role.
@LonelyTreeSunset, this is hate speaking , not sense! You subscribe to a wrong school that; Black can't be right and White can't be wrong! Leave this minister alone, if you don't have proof!
Then you will have to prove it
@@Qotha SIU, Hawks, PP, etc.
@@Qothayou protect corruption
@@LonelyTreeSunsetthis Qotha guy is MK member
Why are the Judiciary not sqeaky clean. A corrupt Judiciary can be the downfall of a country.
That has already been happening for years since 2018 and people celebrated it.
We have the the weakest prosecutorial judiciary when it comes to looting and corruption committed by politicians. They move at a snail pace just to let cases slip under the carpet and forgotten about
Why didn’t you bring that proof of payment and loan agreement with you for the parliamentary committee??
Still drafting the documents .. and looking for the guy to sign the copies..
Still trying to cover up, someone to concoct 'documents'
She didn't learn from the best. Zuma And Supra, when they take bribe, they take it in cash only. No bank transfers
Because it doesn't exist. She's a liar, like the rest of the comrades. In any civilised country, she'd have immediately resigned. ANC stinks.
Good question
The best that the ANC has to offer.
How can THIS LIAR be our minister of JUSTICE???? and she believes herself as well ! Unbelievable
@mookimoves9469 related to Hlope? Go join him at mkp you dishonorable Judge!
The problem goes far deeper and wider. Does her "ethics" (or lack off) not filter down to our supposed agencies that are supposed to protect our country and people?
@martinbisschoff988 I'm sure it does as she sits on panels to protect herself ...she should resign but never seems to happen in the anc
She didnt pay the money back for 4 years. Only when she heard that she will be investigated did she make payments fast.
Correct
Correct
It is proof enough that it was bribe
Never paid back, she just made a fong kong paper saying she paid it back. Y didn't she go to a proper bank for the loan?
Jackie Selebi once said "my hands are clean" guess what?
Mr clean hands was later arrested.
😂😂😂let respect ANC ancestors hle
Zuma and Nathi Mthethwa were instigators
She's defending her self & she knows deep down that she's lying
Even if the is a proof is lying? You believe white ppl
Can you prove that she is lying?
She's lying
She took bribe from Gundo
@@Qotha YES. She tried a poor, terrible cover up. Her "evidence" receipts shows she only paid years later, when the VBS Scandal had already unfolded, and being investigated and already public knowledge, and "repaid" over 3 months only(according to her receipts evidence she supplied). Another big question is where did she get the funds to pay over 3 months only? The Sandton Coffee shop didn't make money, collapsed. And Gundo Wealth Solutions was not an accredited loan company or bank. Loan Money was not even paid to her, but to a Third Party. She had a serious conflict of interest too, as the Mayor of the Municipality. Corrupt through and through. Corrupt.
@@aarongunnz9513 💯 true
And Monica Lewinsky said it was condensed milk on her jacket.
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No need to account woman...just pack ur useless stuff nd leave parliamentary
ANC members and their ability to lie to the public with confidence is disturbing and disgraceful.
They have perfected the art😅
@@moerer57 professional thieves
Liar liar pants on fire ANC is deny deny 😡😡😡😡😡
Arrest this crook now
Arrest her for what exactly?racism is blinding you,leave this minister alone
@@Dave-ll8ly she says as a black person she could not get a bank loan to purchase the bistro, she has already received 2 home loans from 2 separate financial institutions 🤔
But this one must just resign because she doenst make sense and if care not taken ANC will go down with her
ANC already went down with your president.
Wow, it's like she is ignorant or intentionally trying to decieve us?
Why did she take a loan from a service provider?
A whole mayor unable to secure a loan from a commercial bank?
Come on! Just resign already! Justice minister is a honorable minsitry and we cant have this scandal surrounding it!
It's not for her to say she has done nothing wrong. She dies not have that authority. Let relevant authorities make that determination. ANC leaders don't know the difference between right or wrong.
Why is it not available after a week of being requested. 😮
Tough talk ..but at the end ...this unravelles badly of course .She disregarded municipal laws blatantly ..
Give her a chance! She needs time to manufacture a "proof of payment" that looks convincing, and make sure that the "evidence" will stand up to forensic scrutiny. Unfortunately for her, we already have many, many instances of ANC cadres getting large bribes which on disclosure are later declared as "loans". The question is: why are so many highly paid ANC cadres in need of "loans"?
But it's not a crime to be ANC and be in need of a loan?
Lying woman, they must check her bank details. Sorry
The integrity of the judiciary is crucial for the maintenance of rule of law and public trust in legal systems. Corruption within the judiciary can have far-reaching consequences, undermining the principle of equality before the law and the right to a fair trial. When judicial decisions are influenced by bribery or favoritism, it erodes the foundation of justice, leading to a loss of confidence in the legal system and potentially destabilizing the societal order. It can also impede economic development by creating an unpredictable business environment where legal outcomes cannot be relied upon. Addressing judicial corruption requires a multifaceted approach, including strengthening legal frameworks, promoting transparency, and fostering an independent judiciary that can act without undue influence. ⚖⚖,
It is not even about the proof of payment but it is about the looting from the poor , getting a loan from gundo which is not a fanancier
And that's the justice minister😢
Fire her.
And the money? They must deduct the money from her pension… then she can get fired
It doesnt make sense ramaohosa must choose her or the people of south africa
Cyril the Weak, still has to go shop for balls.. terrified to antagonize the comrades
He going to consult, from day one as president, he is being consulting, he will consult us his term eng, ramadollar can't apply his mind
@@khangelamathebula6940 weak man
Why was she was having a business while being a senior government official?
This woman is a shining example of a staunch and qualified ANC member...in good standing 👏🏿
How embarrasing to have a justice minister who speaks like she is in a SHABBEN....GET SOME CLASS ANC!
What do you mean ? How is she talking like she is in a shebeen ? How do people speak when in a shebeen?
she is screaming making gestures and aggressive
@@saturn-u3q ok but when does she scream? I don’t see this in the video? Also you mentioned gestures? Heidi also uses her hands when speaking, does that mean she also speaks like she is in a shebeen? You mention aggression, what aggression are you referring to? I was actually listening to an interview Helen Zille recently did on 702 and she was very much aggressive, would you say she speaks like she is in a shebeen as well? Also do people only speak loudly and use hand gestures only when they are in shebeens? What is the relationship between the behavior you are trying to call out and a shebeen?
Minister do a honorable thing , you are tainted step down your noise won't change anything
A truckload of????.
Why would she stop paying VBS Bank, when the loan was from Gundo? Also she must release the Loan Agreement, proof of receipt from Gundo, and proof monthly and final settlement repayments.
Where there is smoke there is a blaze
Nothing good will ever come from the ANC. Nothing!!
where is the proof we want to see it
Step down. Do u have a judicial background. Nooooo plz we dont need more of this in our country its not fair😢😢😢😢
She sounds like lying
No one ever agrees to doing wrong in this country. With no law degree what is she doing in that role huh????
Simelane's statement regarding having no links with VBS Mutual Bank likely refers to her denial of involvement in any activities or allegations related to the bank. VBS Mutual Bank became infamous after a massive fraud scandal in 2018, where it was found that over R2 billion was looted from the bank. Several individuals, municipalities, and companies were implicated, but it appears that Simelane is distancing herself from any association with the bank or its dealings.
This involves recent news or an ongoing legal or political matter.
Let the public know about it through the media.We need transparency, 'honourable' minister.
Basic arithmetic.....
Loan of over 500k and repayment of 200k is not 11 percent...interest repayment
If she cannot see wrong from right how can she be head of justice?
The whole minister of justice has looted from the poor and she knows the harm and pain she has caused yet remain adamant that she was not involved.
Reshuffle her to another position
It was not a loan it was a kickback.
This is a disgrace. How can we as citizens have confidence and faith in the justice system if their head's integrity is called to question? Can't she recuse herself until the issue is investigated and closed?
This issue will always hang above her head.
Can mr processing Ramaphosa give us a report of this minister. Ramaphosa takes too long in every thing
Except to get gogo's money for herself although She get nicely paid a very handsome salary
Why not show the evidence to the media????😂😂thugs
This lady wants to cling to power as the minister of Justice, reshuffle to another position, enca show us the whole clip please, when did she start paying this loan? Why she didn't loan from the FNB in the first place and did she tell the council she borrowed from Gundo to open the business? Watching her in this interview ndiske ndanosizi maan, she could asses that the eyes of athol is not satisfied with the explanation she gave to the portfolio committee members,
She has a business ANC must go
No matter how much she spins it, she will step down or be pushed. It's only a matter of 'when' and not 'if'.
Sounds like a what if commission payment,with a wayout, dig deeper into loan provider..very irrational.
The real question is why is she not in jail for money laundering and aiding in criminal dealings?
Deny deny deny an old anc criminal tactic
Minister of justice with no legal qualifications....what do you expect
How come its not shown on their books as a loan
No financial institution would of given her the terms of repayment that she provided without corruption its not financially feasible. Also very weirdly she made the first repayment on the day she recieved notice it was being investigated.
What abt conflict of interest? Is that not applicable to high ranking office baras?
Not ONE Canary can be allowed to sing.......
They are never guilty! They simply trash the full might of the law.
Where there is smoke....there is a fire! She had money transfered to VBS in the first place!
I once saw a chicken with teeth checking a pig flying over the moon
So this woman is still the minister of justice? What a joke. Mampara county, lawlessness is second nature. So Ramaphosa can’t tell her to step down? She has guts.
Eish, she's not surviving this...
She definitely covered her ass by making some sort of paper showing she paid it back. We all know she didn't why didn't she take a loan from a proper bank.
She will be joining the MK soon 😂
Im sure she had nothing to do with the bank I really believe her .These people are so honest.
Why not get a loan from her bank? What was special about a loan from Gundu?
Eish for Mzanzi 😢
im still srugglung to understand the part where she has done something wrong... someone please help me understand what she did wrong.
Hmm who would take a loan with that intrest rate ....
Where is the coffee shop ?
Where is madam speaker at home getting a salary
Oooh eh eh... Someone so high up in the ANC loves this lady too much 😅
Tsamaya hle VBS ANC lootes
Arrogant and defiant
Show us the POP
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
She is trying too hard to convince, give away.
SIMELANE MSUT STEP DOWN. Dont waste our time as the GNU needs to move forward to improve the peoples lives. STEP DOWN NOW. Do the right thing.. There are so many WHY's and there are now answers to these WHY's
You placed money with vbs against the rules and you knew that
Such people goes to church where they are taught that Jesus washed people clean from their sins and potential sins. Therefore she'll never, rightly or wrongly, accept any wrongdoing.
Yes my dear Kgundu loan, not VBS looters EFF, give them a prove life goes on 😅😅😂
“I never do nothing”.
D. O. D. G. Y. Methinks the Minister (sic) protesteth too much. Conflict of interest, whether perceived or real. Connect the dots. I get a "loan" from a company who has earned 24 million from a deposit of over R350 million illegal deposit, and I'm mayor at the time?? Connect the dots. You are lying Thembi.
eNCA so soft like sabc now VIVA
She's telling a true liar. Viva ANC viva or must l say GNU.
Changes the subject 😂😂😂😂
She’s a gone gurl.
Someone wants her out of that portfolio. Is it because she is a Zulu or because they want their own person there?
@@Ntuthu-ZA No, it's because she's a corrupt, dishonest crook. Just like the whole of the ANC.
Go. Voetsek
Ziyakhala manje
Unfortunately if you cover your tracks well it will always remain a suspicion so she is free just relax
Arrogance of thugs
Nonsense..Mrs Semelane when was your loan approved after municipal funds get into Vbs account or after withdrawn from Vbs...U make excuse of a municipal manger who was inexperience...how on earth inexperience individual on that sensitive position will just decide to take municipal funds to Vbs without proper investigations
DisGrace.
Just go away.