For me: 1- Japanese (good overall) 2- Spanish LA (good but uses weird/unusual words) 3- English (some character's feel plain, or like their voice doesnt match the character)
Pretty much. The original audio on anything will always be better, but this is especially true when translating Asian stuff. It’s such a different language, the way they formulate sentences is just so different that, when trying to translate anyone saying anything, it comes across as off-putting.
23:55 best part I wonder how the bloodline even continued, since there's never any mention of Sonia having a child, nor Zelda in the past. Who's even the next ruler of Hyrule? The other sages still lived after Rauru, Sonia, Zelda, and Minaru departed, so who's the Hylian royal family even?
@@Tom-xt1jn Well, Sonia did say she could sense a blood connection to both her and Rauru from Zelda. It's likely their child was already born/grown, but not mentioned. Mineru couldn't as she got Gloom Poisoning after fighting Ganondorf under the castle. My theory is that they just kept their heir/heiress safely kept away in case of crisis so their line could continue. Judging from her looks, Sonia seems to be late 30's/early 40's in age, and her natural warmness and motherly demeanor suggests she was already a parent.
Yeah the child had to have already been born, and likely old enough to be out in the world on their own somewhere. My best guess is that they avoided putting the child in the memories, because the characters in them show up again in the present in some form. Probably wanted to avoid having the prince or princess stick out.
@@Mrbluefire95 It'd have to be that way. Zelda couldn't have done it, as she turned into a Dragon shortly after, and there'd be a time paradox problem if she did. I'm willing to bet Rauru and Sonia's son/daughter was already an adult and maybe an explorer, but came back to Hyrule to take over rulership when he/she caught news of Rauru and Sonia dying, and maybe that's why the rule of not exploring below the castle was instated, as to not disturb Rauru's seal.
Man idk, that "protect them all" in the English version had some serious emotion to it. It was one point that truly stood out in the English version to me.
The original audio will always be better no matter the media. Video games, movies, shows, a random video. You really can’t beat the original, although I’ll say, Nintendo’s English VA has become a bit better over time. Totk is better than Botw in that regard.
@@near193 I wouldn't say it is as cut and dry as that. I think things like translations in media can be very objective and there are a lot of factors to consider. An example that comes to mind is the Spice & Wolf anime. The original Japanese VA's are good, but I really think they knocked the English VA's out of the park. I feel they have a chemistry and additional wit I don't pick up in the original language. It is one of the very rare times that I prefer the English translation, but I do prefer it.
Well the Japanese VA had some practice before, voicing Jellymon (and its digivolutions) in Digimon Ghost Game so transformation voice is her thing i suppose haha
The original is so good, english did really good aswell, but I wish they rigged the characters faces to align with the vocals of the language for other versions. English just looks like their mouths are randomly moving while they are talking.
I played this game in Japanese for my first playthrough and it was so worth it. Ganondorf's voice is 1000000% more menacing and Zelda's voice matches her appearance. I know im gonna get shit for this but i don't like the british accent they chose for Zelda so im glad you still have the option to change the language
I hate it too and I'm british lmao. Though I will add that Zelda's va isn't british, she's an american doing an impression, so that may be part of the problem. It feels very off
It would of been awesome to see the spirits of the four champions & Zelda's father in this sequel interacting with Hyrule's first king. But they did moved on.
dude, ganondorfs voice will ALWAYS be better in japanese dub. Considering his og voice actors for ocarina, tp, windwaker, smash bros, etc were japanese, this iteration(im not sure whos voicing him in japanese) really does sound like ganondorf from the previous titles, and i really dig it, especially since i love how he sounds in TP
The only thing I dislike is that the subtitles are simply what they say in English dub. I'm hoping the translation is trying to stay faithful but after seeing some changes in BOTW cutscenes, I'm not sure anymore lol
I understand very little Japanese but based on my experience playing through both games with Japanese voices, I noticed many instances where the English subtitles did not match the Japanese speech. There's also the problem that a lot of the English lines don't have the right tone and mannerisms, as well as the VAs not matching the age range that their character is supposed to have (especially noticable with Tulin, Yunobo, Mineru, and the Great Deku Tree, among others).
@@Some-guy-on-the-internetyeah I’m familiar with some issues with the translation sometimes it’s spot on sometimes it’s not I’m particularly interested in the Zelda and Sonia cutcean. Since well it basically parents wanting too meet their daughters boyfriend. It’s very zelink heavy. But apparently from what I’ve heard they replaced rarus “you have absolute faith”in English apparently in the Japanese its “you must have strong feelings for him” I’m pretty shure this is correct since Nintendo was allready being *very* on the nose with this entire memory it’s very clear Zelda loves link
@@wiskerfall4519 I agree. The game was directed by Hidemaru Fujibayashi who is known to be a supporter of Zelink in the games he directs. It's clear that the writers intended for there to be a romantic connection between Link and Zelda, whereas NOA tried to avoid the topic during localisation. On a similar note, it should be fairly well known at this point that in Japanese, the quest log in both BotW and TotK act as Link's personal diary where he writes out his thoughts and feelings which may not necessarily reflect those of the player. The writers clearly want Link to be portrayed as a true character while NOA defiantly refuses to follow suit and portrays him as a self-insert instead.
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet yea any game he directed always has some sort of romantic connection between link and Zelda especially in btow and totk hell the entire Zelda and Sonia cutscene is basically Zelda talking about how Zelda is in love with link and it comes off like raru and Sonia wanting to meet him like parents wanting too meet their daughters boyfriend. I’m just very curious about that cutcean in particular since I’ve seen other languages and what they say Varys a lot like in the German version.
I love Matt Mercer but. For Ganondorf I'd pick someone with a naturally really deep voice. He sounds a bit strained or something while voicing Ganondorf. I think someone like Steve Blum for example could pull it off a bit better.
The Japanese dub and the Spanish (from Spain, haven't listened to the Latam one yet) are absolutely great. 💯 Both in the voice performances and in the voices they chose (this negatively affects the English dub many times). The English one doesn't convince me overall tbh, but it's not bad at all.
You can never beat the Japanese version, way too original. I always switch to Japanese version wherever possible. Heck, Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, Wuthering Waves, I switch to Japanese despite them being Chinese-original, and that is still so much better.
I think this is game of this year. But it's little sad they never expanded on Ganondorf and we never saw behind scenes. Like how he was ruling them before, how he treated his subjects, what were his relations and how they changed after his transformation into Demon Lord..
Okay imagine if you will that Donald Trump wins in 2024… And then when he wins, he literally transforms into Satan and raises an army of demons. Are his supporters still going to side with him? I would assume not.
In BOTW Calamity Ganon existed separately from this main body, and was also capable of creating even smaller blight Ganon’s to corrupt the divine beasts. I see no reason to assume the past versions of Ganondorf weren’t just reborn Ganon’s born from this original Demon King form.
I liked Queen Sonia’s English voice better, she sounded like a motherly regal queen while the Japanese one just felt like she sounded motherly. Nothing regal or royal about her voice.
there's so much STUPID in this story it's beyond ridiculous... 1) HOW do they know what the master sword IS and that it "SEALS DARKNESS" if there's NEVER BEEN ANY DARKNESS TO SEAL???? So you're telling me Hyrule had 0 monsters before gannondorf summoned them out of the moon (like it's naruto or some shit lmao)???? then how does anyone know that there's a sword powerful enough to defeat any evil?? VERY simple question that creates a GLARING PLOT HOLE for anyone with even a fraction of a brain.... 2) WHY in the fuck would you tell the villain the name of the hero that's gonna beat him hundreds of years in the future????? why not just say "someone will beat you one day" and that way try to protect that person for as long as possible through anonymity...? If I was Gannon and could take over divine beasts and guardians etc I would have just sent all my minions and guardians, etc to hunt down ANYONE NAMED LINK and eliminate them thus solving my problem before it arises LOL. 3) IF zelda could reverse the time of the knife flying through the air from the clone thing towards Sonia, why couldn't she just do that for the knife or sword (whatever) that's used to stab sonia in the back??? if they were so "ready" for that trap, how in the bloody fuck did gannondorf sneak up on them in a high part of the castle?? Netflix co-wrote this Disney they? lol
i pity your tiny brain being introduced to literature this way. first, it wouldnt be fiction if it does exactly the "realistic" measures you think of. if you ever thought of writing something like that, your story would end in three pages without any world to expand in and prolly would sell badly. second, if you ever read the exchange between the characters, it was mentioned that zonai once dominated the lands but during rauru's foundation of hyrule, only him and his sister were left. this may imply that something evil already existed that wiped their clan or weakened it causing its gradual extinction. it's up for interpretation, but one thing's for sure, darkness and evil already existed at some point before hyrule was founded. they are also familiar of the concept as rauru mentioned "the darkness in [ganondorf's] personality" or something along those lines. there's enough crumbs to believe that evil persisted way before the foundation of hyrule whether it was monsters or not and the master sword must have sealed it once without the zonai's knowledge or direct involvement. third, telling ganondorf the name of the hero that would end him one day may be a form of taunting. it's also up for interpretation, but you could look at it as a way of telling the opponent your guaranteed win whatever evil plan they may do. it's like telling your opponent, you'll play scissors in a rock-paper-scissors game to mess with their head. such scene in the story is a literary touch to it to make it more appealling, maybe it wasnt just fit for your poor taste. fourth, i agree that it was an absolute bummer how the downfall of hyrule began with a petty sucker stab all while boasting about their preparation. but to give it the benefit of the doubt, ganondorf is already established to be formidable that it isnt out of his league to do such sneaky feat. fifth, for stab wounds, it is a lot better for the stab weapon to be stuck in there than taking it out as it acts as stoppage for the bleeding. this prevents excessive bleed out. plucking it out from sonia would definitely not change the outcome any better. you just wasted your time watching all these if you can only react to it with hate and disappointment. try to enjoy and appreciate things sometimes.
@@yangcrates5683 Oh, i honestly dont know what actually happened as it wasnt explicit. I was confused as well. You might be right. I was just reacting to the comment. Sorry for the confusion.
I can't believe it took 6 years to make this cash grab. The Sky map is just a few cluster of boring islands and the underworld is annoying a boring because you can't see anything 90% of the time. The story is just pathetic, unemotional, and pointless. This was just an attempted to make money off of Breath of the Wild's undeserved hype. Just like they failed with Majora's Mask's riding off Ocarina of Time's financial success... I'm done with the Zelda franchise Aonuma fully taking over was a huge mistake...
@@jUppersmaybe that's true for this game but in botw zelda was an ntricately written character, she was an emancipated woman with her hardships of societal pressure
@@jUppers she literally resolves herself to cast away her humanity(ofc it gets cleared later, but at the time it was made to be permanent) to make sure Ganondorf is defeated, is also the key element in defeating DragonDorf in the end, tf you on about
If you're talking about the translation work, yeah, I couldn't agree more. The old fashioned way that all characters (sans Zelda and Sonia at times) speak in during these scenes were completely left out and dumbed down for the English audience.
For me:
1- Japanese (good overall)
2- Spanish LA (good but uses weird/unusual words)
3- English (some character's feel plain, or like their voice doesnt match the character)
In spanish LA Hyrule as "irule" instead of "jairul" due to in spanish we can't pronounce the H since is silent is one of them I take it?
Pretty much. The original audio on anything will always be better, but this is especially true when translating Asian stuff.
It’s such a different language, the way they formulate sentences is just so different that, when trying to translate anyone saying anything, it comes across as off-putting.
23:55 best part
I wonder how the bloodline even continued, since there's never any mention of Sonia having a child, nor Zelda in the past. Who's even the next ruler of Hyrule? The other sages still lived after Rauru, Sonia, Zelda, and Minaru departed, so who's the Hylian royal family even?
Considering that Zelda was involved in the past, maybe it went full circle? Or maybe I misunderstood something...
Maybe Minaru became ruler after Rayru and had kids? The only option I can think of
@@Tom-xt1jn Well, Sonia did say she could sense a blood connection to both her and Rauru from Zelda. It's likely their child was already born/grown, but not mentioned. Mineru couldn't as she got Gloom Poisoning after fighting Ganondorf under the castle.
My theory is that they just kept their heir/heiress safely kept away in case of crisis so their line could continue. Judging from her looks, Sonia seems to be late 30's/early 40's in age, and her natural warmness and motherly demeanor suggests she was already a parent.
Yeah the child had to have already been born, and likely old enough to be out in the world on their own somewhere. My best guess is that they avoided putting the child in the memories, because the characters in them show up again in the present in some form.
Probably wanted to avoid having the prince or princess stick out.
@@Mrbluefire95 It'd have to be that way. Zelda couldn't have done it, as she turned into a Dragon shortly after, and there'd be a time paradox problem if she did. I'm willing to bet Rauru and Sonia's son/daughter was already an adult and maybe an explorer, but came back to Hyrule to take over rulership when he/she caught news of Rauru and Sonia dying, and maybe that's why the rule of not exploring below the castle was instated, as to not disturb Rauru's seal.
Man while english VA's did a great job, you can't beat the original. Especially zelda's final cry before she transforms.
Man idk, that "protect them all" in the English version had some serious emotion to it. It was one point that truly stood out in the English version to me.
The original audio will always be better no matter the media. Video games, movies, shows, a random video.
You really can’t beat the original, although I’ll say, Nintendo’s English VA has become a bit better over time. Totk is better than Botw in that regard.
@@near193 I wouldn't say it is as cut and dry as that. I think things like translations in media can be very objective and there are a lot of factors to consider. An example that comes to mind is the Spice & Wolf anime. The original Japanese VA's are good, but I really think they knocked the English VA's out of the park. I feel they have a chemistry and additional wit I don't pick up in the original language. It is one of the very rare times that I prefer the English translation, but I do prefer it.
I agree. That “Sekai-o” combined with the sudden change of her eyes completely blew me away the first time I watched it.
Well the Japanese VA had some practice before, voicing Jellymon (and its digivolutions) in Digimon Ghost Game so transformation voice is her thing i suppose haha
23:55 The Japanese version of Ganondorf's evil laugh is pretty good
It fits the mouth movement better too. The English dub laugh is great in its own right but it’s not nearly deranged enough to justify the face
I had hoped it'd be his original oot ganondorf laugh.
23:57 Dat face >:D.
The original is so good, english did really good aswell, but I wish they rigged the characters faces to align with the vocals of the language for other versions. English just looks like their mouths are randomly moving while they are talking.
I played this game in Japanese for my first playthrough and it was so worth it. Ganondorf's voice is 1000000% more menacing and Zelda's voice matches her appearance. I know im gonna get shit for this but i don't like the british accent they chose for Zelda so im glad you still have the option to change the language
I hate it too and I'm british lmao. Though I will add that Zelda's va isn't british, she's an american doing an impression, so that may be part of the problem. It feels very off
@@cheestle8677 exactly!!! Thats my biggest issue too. Americans doing British accents will always sound super off and it just sounds bad
Zelda should talk in American accent?
Dude same I played breath of the wild on japanese too ! Is way better than English
It's not just British, it's fake British
It would of been awesome to see the spirits of the four champions & Zelda's father in this sequel interacting with Hyrule's first king. But they did moved on.
Ganon's voice sounds so much more intimidating in the Japanese version I'm sorry
dude, ganondorfs voice will ALWAYS be better in japanese dub. Considering his og voice actors for ocarina, tp, windwaker, smash bros, etc were japanese, this iteration(im not sure whos voicing him in japanese) really does sound like ganondorf from the previous titles, and i really dig it, especially since i love how he sounds in TP
Japanese and Latin American dub are the best.
Facts
@@sonicsfurrycock Opinions.
@@BlueSunStudios1 Original dub is original dub, you noob. Have respect for the japanese.
@@darklordyianni4463 original is not synonymous with best though.
This is the closest thing to a Zelda anime us fans will ever get. Remember that my Zelda family lol
The only thing I dislike is that the subtitles are simply what they say in English dub. I'm hoping the translation is trying to stay faithful but after seeing some changes in BOTW cutscenes, I'm not sure anymore lol
I understand very little Japanese but based on my experience playing through both games with Japanese voices, I noticed many instances where the English subtitles did not match the Japanese speech. There's also the problem that a lot of the English lines don't have the right tone and mannerisms, as well as the VAs not matching the age range that their character is supposed to have (especially noticable with Tulin, Yunobo, Mineru, and the Great Deku Tree, among others).
@@Some-guy-on-the-internetyeah I’m familiar with some issues with the translation sometimes it’s spot on sometimes it’s not I’m particularly interested in the Zelda and Sonia cutcean. Since well it basically parents wanting too meet their daughters boyfriend. It’s very zelink heavy. But apparently from what I’ve heard they replaced rarus “you have absolute faith”in English apparently in the Japanese its “you must have strong feelings for him” I’m pretty shure this is correct since Nintendo was allready being *very* on the nose with this entire memory it’s very clear Zelda loves link
@@wiskerfall4519 I agree. The game was directed by Hidemaru Fujibayashi who is known to be a supporter of Zelink in the games he directs. It's clear that the writers intended for there to be a romantic connection between Link and Zelda, whereas NOA tried to avoid the topic during localisation. On a similar note, it should be fairly well known at this point that in Japanese, the quest log in both BotW and TotK act as Link's personal diary where he writes out his thoughts and feelings which may not necessarily reflect those of the player. The writers clearly want Link to be portrayed as a true character while NOA defiantly refuses to follow suit and portrays him as a self-insert instead.
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet yea any game he directed always has some sort of romantic connection between link and Zelda especially in btow and totk hell the entire Zelda and Sonia cutscene is basically Zelda talking about how Zelda is in love with link and it comes off like raru and Sonia wanting to meet him like parents wanting too meet their daughters boyfriend. I’m just very curious about that cutcean in particular since I’ve seen other languages and what they say Varys a lot like in the German version.
I love Matt Mercer but. For Ganondorf I'd pick someone with a naturally really deep voice. He sounds a bit strained or something while voicing Ganondorf. I think someone like Steve Blum for example could pull it off a bit better.
The Japanese dub and the Spanish (from Spain, haven't listened to the Latam one yet) are absolutely great. 💯 Both in the voice performances and in the voices they chose (this negatively affects the English dub many times). The English one doesn't convince me overall tbh, but it's not bad at all.
39:44
Weird how the subtitles say 5 warriors, when each warrior says 6 warriors.
And just like that, Tears of The Kingdom became an Animé.
5:47 Ara? 22:40 Ara.
15:10 Did King Rauru REALLY just pull a Kikoho from Dragon Ball?
38:52 and now he's doing Shining Finger out of Mobile Fighter G Gundam!
I think this is more authentic in japanese with eng dub imo
23:56
0:46 that Deku no Ki Sama sounds a whole lot like "DEKU KISAMAAAA" and I thought of Bakugo from My hero academia right away and burst out laughing
Pppfff
Your'e richt
You can never beat the Japanese version, way too original. I always switch to Japanese version wherever possible. Heck, Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, Wuthering Waves, I switch to Japanese despite them being Chinese-original, and that is still so much better.
I absolutely hate the English Zelda voice compared to Japanese version
Why would Ganondorf attack Gerudo Town when his people were literally on his side😭
I think this is game of this year. But it's little sad they never expanded on Ganondorf and we never saw behind scenes. Like how he was ruling them before, how he treated his subjects, what were his relations and how they changed after his transformation into Demon Lord..
Okay imagine if you will that Donald Trump wins in 2024…
And then when he wins, he literally transforms into Satan and raises an army of demons. Are his supporters still going to side with him?
I would assume not.
@@jakubs.5966hoping for dlc about it
Seemed to me like not every town supported his rule so he took them over
@@VaguelyRowlet I mean he ordered his demons to exterminate the people of Hyrule, so “take over” and “support his rule” are a little inapplicable.
I really don't get it, it was supposed that ganondorf was alive when hero of time's era
Wait yea
In BOTW Calamity Ganon existed separately from this main body, and was also capable of creating even smaller blight Ganon’s to corrupt the divine beasts. I see no reason to assume the past versions of Ganondorf weren’t just reborn Ganon’s born from this original Demon King form.
Breath of The Wild and Tears of The Kingdom are reboots of the Zelda series, don't try fitting them into any timeline.
Different Ganondorf.
28:42 That is the most illogical place to put a couple of Lynels, EVER! They are not mountain goats!
zelda's english voice sounds...bad and phlegmy.
@Sophie_345not just british. fake british
I liked Queen Sonia’s English voice better, she sounded like a motherly regal queen while the Japanese one just felt like she sounded motherly. Nothing regal or royal about her voice.
there's so much STUPID in this story it's beyond ridiculous...
1) HOW do they know what the master sword IS and that it "SEALS DARKNESS" if there's NEVER BEEN ANY DARKNESS TO SEAL???? So you're telling me Hyrule had 0 monsters before gannondorf summoned them out of the moon (like it's naruto or some shit lmao)???? then how does anyone know that there's a sword powerful enough to defeat any evil?? VERY simple question that creates a GLARING PLOT HOLE for anyone with even a fraction of a brain....
2) WHY in the fuck would you tell the villain the name of the hero that's gonna beat him hundreds of years in the future????? why not just say "someone will beat you one day" and that way try to protect that person for as long as possible through anonymity...? If I was Gannon and could take over divine beasts and guardians etc I would have just sent all my minions and guardians, etc to hunt down ANYONE NAMED LINK and eliminate them thus solving my problem before it arises LOL.
3) IF zelda could reverse the time of the knife flying through the air from the clone thing towards Sonia, why couldn't she just do that for the knife or sword (whatever) that's used to stab sonia in the back??? if they were so "ready" for that trap, how in the bloody fuck did gannondorf sneak up on them in a high part of the castle??
Netflix co-wrote this Disney they? lol
i pity your tiny brain being introduced to literature this way.
first, it wouldnt be fiction if it does exactly the "realistic" measures you think of. if you ever thought of writing something like that, your story would end in three pages without any world to expand in and prolly would sell badly.
second, if you ever read the exchange between the characters, it was mentioned that zonai once dominated the lands but during rauru's foundation of hyrule, only him and his sister were left. this may imply that something evil already existed that wiped their clan or weakened it causing its gradual extinction. it's up for interpretation, but one thing's for sure, darkness and evil already existed at some point before hyrule was founded. they are also familiar of the concept as rauru mentioned "the darkness in [ganondorf's] personality" or something along those lines. there's enough crumbs to believe that evil persisted way before the foundation of hyrule whether it was monsters or not and the master sword must have sealed it once without the zonai's knowledge or direct involvement.
third, telling ganondorf the name of the hero that would end him one day may be a form of taunting. it's also up for interpretation, but you could look at it as a way of telling the opponent your guaranteed win whatever evil plan they may do. it's like telling your opponent, you'll play scissors in a rock-paper-scissors game to mess with their head. such scene in the story is a literary touch to it to make it more appealling, maybe it wasnt just fit for your poor taste.
fourth, i agree that it was an absolute bummer how the downfall of hyrule began with a petty sucker stab all while boasting about their preparation. but to give it the benefit of the doubt, ganondorf is already established to be formidable that it isnt out of his league to do such sneaky feat.
fifth, for stab wounds, it is a lot better for the stab weapon to be stuck in there than taking it out as it acts as stoppage for the bleeding. this prevents excessive bleed out. plucking it out from sonia would definitely not change the outcome any better.
you just wasted your time watching all these if you can only react to it with hate and disappointment. try to enjoy and appreciate things sometimes.
You know... considering all the stuff you said, I'm suprised you didn't mentioned the part where Zelda becomes a dragon lol
@@snsnni I thought Ganon crushed Sonia's bones not stabbing her. I didn't see knife on his hand
@@yangcrates5683 Oh, i honestly dont know what actually happened as it wasnt explicit. I was confused as well. You might be right. I was just reacting to the comment. Sorry for the confusion.
average Sony fanboy right here
I can't believe it took 6 years to make this cash grab. The Sky map is just a few cluster of boring islands and the underworld is annoying a boring because you can't see anything 90% of the time.
The story is just pathetic, unemotional, and pointless. This was just an attempted to make money off of Breath of the Wild's undeserved hype. Just like they failed with Majora's Mask's riding off Ocarina of Time's financial success...
I'm done with the Zelda franchise Aonuma fully taking over was a huge mistake...
Funny, I both agree and disagree with you.
cope
You're right about the sky islands and so wrong about the rest
To each their own, but this is my favorite game ever and ties perfectly with the sequel. Cope on your $70 loss.
lmao and your account has gravity falls in it, such a shit and soulless TV show.
Mediocre at best
If you're referring to yourself, I couldn't agree more.
it's really just this version of Zelda that's a complete cringefest. she's extremely plain and her only personality trait is "i like to help"
@@jUppersmaybe that's true for this game but in botw zelda was an ntricately written character, she was an emancipated woman with her hardships of societal pressure
@@jUppers she literally resolves herself to cast away her humanity(ofc it gets cleared later, but at the time it was made to be permanent) to make sure Ganondorf is defeated, is also the key element in defeating DragonDorf in the end, tf you on about
If you're talking about the translation work, yeah, I couldn't agree more. The old fashioned way that all characters (sans Zelda and Sonia at times) speak in during these scenes were completely left out and dumbed down for the English audience.