IPA Symbols for the R Sound

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  • @stnlpl
    @stnlpl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Wow, this has been the best video about the IPA I've ever seen. I basically learned it by reading dictionaries, but I did take some courses at uni, and it was nothing like this. Bravo!

  • @chcorreia
    @chcorreia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Spanish speakers when they finally lose their accent:
    ♫THE TRILL IS GONE ♪

    • @gianb3952
      @gianb3952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think you mean THE TɹILL IS GONE

  • @rbelson356
    @rbelson356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    About the uvular rhotics - the consonant occurring in my native language, Hebrew, represented by the letter "resh" "ר" in its most frequent articulation is actually a uvular *approximant* which is represented as in the IPA (that diacritic meaning "tongue is lowered"). As a phonetician with certain experience analyzing sound waves, I've found this consonant to be very sonorous (=having significantly less friction) compared to the French 'r' in the word 'rat' which is a clear voiced uvular *fricative* . In German, I've actually found that the 'r', when not representing a schwa (like in the word "aber"), actually has three phonetic realizations - the uvular trill (as you demonstrated), the voiceless uvular fricative and the uvular approximant.

    • @nushious
      @nushious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is interesting, thank you so much! :)

  • @sadafkhan1679
    @sadafkhan1679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can not thank you enough for this incredibly helpful video! You make phonetics easy! Please keep making more videos like this

  • @Ultimatum227
    @Ultimatum227 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow, this was incredibly useful!! You guys rock!!

  • @bigbong.official
    @bigbong.official 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super useful, thank you very much!

  • @ricardoluizmarcello
    @ricardoluizmarcello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, my doubts went away with your video!!! Thanks!!!

  • @GenetetIncorporated
    @GenetetIncorporated 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The reversed capitalized R is the most common one in France, the other one being associated with wartime and 50s artists like Edith Piaf and Jacques Brel (and yet I'm not sure they would speak that way, might only be while singing). Probably just a temporary fad from Paris. However in the countryside and up to people born in the 60s, it is still common to hear a flap r.

    • @rosiebowers1671
      @rosiebowers1671 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Completely agreed. R is either heard in old-school singers and actors (comes from cabaret techniques, to help with clarity of enunciation) or regionalisms (eg old parisian accents). Standard French uses ʁ

  • @bmfsnc8466
    @bmfsnc8466 ปีที่แล้ว

    taking a phonetics class right now, thank you so much!

  • @mariehayes8358
    @mariehayes8358 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic! I just searched online for “IPA r sounds” and the AI Overview just lied (again), saying “rr” in Spanish was a *uvular* trill. It’s scary how this misinformation is stated like that as if it’s truth. Luckily, it also offered me your video. Subscribing.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AI info culling is a mess... It's usually right and useful, but it can also get things completely wrong, so it's damned hard to trust. Wikipedia, as a crowd-sourced beast, get a bad reputation, but it's damned good for anything that is not current/controversial. Thanks for stopping by!

  • @AssassinsCreedHalo
    @AssassinsCreedHalo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have no idea how helpful this video has been to me. Thank you so much!

  • @jonahjergen
    @jonahjergen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your videos are so clear and concise. Very helpful for learning IPA. Thank you!

  • @haileymaurer122
    @haileymaurer122 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best IPA video I've ever come across. Thank you!

  • @Arkylie
    @Arkylie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One nice, pithy rundown of the distinction for a set of related sounds and you earned yourself a subscriber! Hope to find a set of these for different vowels -- especially, since I recently ran across this problem, the A's at the bottom of the mouth, hearing them in close succession like a set of piano notes, so I can imprint on the actual sounds instead of trying to make my tongue do weird contortions when I'm not sure if it's actually doing anything useful in there.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might be interested in Knight-Thompson Speechwork training, which is a "discovery" process for exploring sounds and then identifying them with symbols. Knight was a mentor/teacher of mine in ancient times, so I learned some of his work earlier on and it definitely influenced my work.

  • @crusherdust
    @crusherdust 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS FOR MY CONLANG IPA

  • @watchman4todayreloaded192
    @watchman4todayreloaded192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a wonderfully clear descriptive summary of the r sounds - unfortunately it also shows that I've been using the Rong symbol when writing words with ulvular R and I've been wring in the ordinary English r upside down symbol - so now I've got to go and correct my notes. Byeee!

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I learned incorrect/alternate ones early in my time with IPA because I was begin taught Broad transcription instead of Narrow. Once I understood that those were the framing concepts for what the people had been trying to teach, it helped me to see that it's not "wrong" - it's just another context than what is more universally used. I'm happy to report that after years of IPA therapy, I'm doing okay...

  • @00bean00
    @00bean00 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the "loose uvular" one is common in modern _common_ Hebrew--which surprises me, but a user on another site told me the (influx of) Yiddish has influenced it a lot.

    • @KaiLucasZachary
      @KaiLucasZachary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this comment is 2 years old, but learning Hebrew is how I came across this video!

  • @rafaellima6383
    @rafaellima6383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the Portuguese r/h sound at the start of words? rato, rua, Rafael, how is that transcribed?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't speak the language, so I'm not sure... but you can see one interpretation of the various sounds in Portuguese here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_phonology

  • @the_biblioklept2533
    @the_biblioklept2533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you make a rhotic during a burp, is that an esophagulized rhotic?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It makes you Scooby-Doo.

  • @ramzy-6566
    @ramzy-6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, i hope you good.
    is there voiceless /r/ in american English
    /r/ after /p,t,k/becomes voiceless, as in pray /preɪ/, try /traɪ/ , script /skrɪpt/.
    Thank you.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It may be voiceless or voiced - it's in a transition position between an unvoiced consonant and a vowel (which is voiced) so voicing most commonly begins during the R sound.

    • @ramzy-6566
      @ramzy-6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AccentHelp Thank you so much.

    • @ramzy-6566
      @ramzy-6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      throw [θɾ̪̊oʊ]

  • @francesconunziante6997
    @francesconunziante6997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video, thank you so much!

  • @abhigail
    @abhigail 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My question is which r that represents Japanese, Korean, and Chinese r ??

  • @dianebrown5914
    @dianebrown5914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My name is Diane and I am blind. I am trying to get my phone to pronounce the Maori names propperly I have a symbols keyboard on my phone but without knowing the names of the symbols, I can't use it. In your vidio I was hoping to find the "Names" of the symbols. But you only said "This R" or "This R" Please could you help me. Thanks

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm working out of the country for another couple of weeks, and then I'll do a video with names for these various R symbols - thanks for letting me know, Diane!

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just uploading the video for this now - sorry it took me so long! th-cam.com/video/bvYzh1i22ZA/w-d-xo.html

  • @KaiLucasZachary
    @KaiLucasZachary 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. Thank you.

  • @BruceXuHasADream
    @BruceXuHasADream 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    jim you are the man

  • @abeprawiradilaga2516
    @abeprawiradilaga2516 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, my son is having issues with letter "R" as non strong/clear saying it, his background is bahasa/Indonesia, back home is called "cadel" refers to almost bullied term. Can you help him out please? He was evaluated at school as a non speech issue, we were really in shock of that, thank you

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  ปีที่แล้ว

      The R sound - at least as it commonly occurs in English - is typically one of the last sounds to develop in a child, so a delay on that is not uncommon at all. It often manifests as something more like a W or a vowel instead. Unfortunately you're now moving beyond my expertise and into where an SLP (Speech Language Pathologist) would serve you and your son best. Kids can be so cruel, so I'm sorry y'all are dealing with that!

  • @dainismichel
    @dainismichel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video

  • @do.herrmann
    @do.herrmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been wondering about other r pronunciations and IPA graphics, mostly regarding rotacism issues and the approximate sounds to the rz used in Polish... any ideas?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you're looking for the "tapped-R" that I talk about in this video. That's the common sound for Polish speakers.

    • @danielsebald5639
      @danielsebald5639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      IIRC represents /ʐ/ in Polish

  • @adilsonhaas1445
    @adilsonhaas1445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    r sound, little tap and trilled, I can use this sound in words such Horror, red, very, to sound likely the British posh accent?

  • @kadd4415
    @kadd4415 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks...just can't understand how ipa transcription varies on different applications and sites. I'm not referring only to the American v British pronunciation. I used tophonetics today and it only uses [r] in either pronunciation for a variety words such as red, rouge, Russia, etc. So thanks for the clarification here but I don't see the upside down r in usage.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      /r/ means, basically, the R sound in general, while [r] means the R that is trilled at the gum ridge. People don't necessarily stick to the brackets as they could be used to make that distinction, but most of the time when a person is talking about a native English speaker's /r/ it's actually [ɹ].

  • @hamidrezaseilabadi839
    @hamidrezaseilabadi839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome explanation.

  • @nightshadewrites
    @nightshadewrites ปีที่แล้ว +1

    English r is absolutely not the most common one for people to use, in fact I’m pretty sure it’s one of the rarest. Tap r is the most common one. Alveolar trill is fairly common. Both uvulars are fairly common as well. Dental~Retroflex approximants are rare but not exceedingly so. The exceedingly rare ones are the pharyngeal ones.

  • @ramzy-6566
    @ramzy-6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great.

  • @janijon9902
    @janijon9902 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much!

  • @inseut
    @inseut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Welcome to the Portuguese language. We have a ridiculous amount of rhotics possibilities within the numerous accents in the language. You can test this and ask Portuguese speakers how they pronounce "porta" (door) and "carro" (car) - the 4 "major" r sounds are the final-syllable r (poR-ta, aR-co, coR-po), the first letter of a word OR first in a syllable when written with double r (caR-RO iR-Ri-tar, Ra-to, Ra-ro), the one in-between vowels (a-Ra-Ra, pa-Re, cou-Ro), and finally, the r preceding another consonant (fRa-co, pRi-var, tRom-ba).
    And so, how do you pronounce these Rs?
    It COMPLETELY depends on which accent of the Portuguese language you're learning. I think that there's only one R that is the most "standard", the in-between vowels and preceding another consonant is USUALLY the tapped r, but even that is not completely true to all accents.
    If you're a native speaker of a rhotacized accent of English, you have trouble pronouncing most of the other Rs, you'll probably be well understood for Caipira dialect speakers, and in countryside São Paulo state - their Rs are the most common in English :)
    All the Rs found in Portuguese in the IPA: ɾ r ɹ ɻ ɻ̝̊ ç x ɣ χ ʁ ʀ ħ h ɦ

    • @Desilurobinson
      @Desilurobinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ɣ (voiced velar fricative) is most common in all varieties

    • @nushious
      @nushious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, this is great! Thank you. I'm learning Brazilian Portuguese right now, and knowing the phonetics of it helps so much :)

    • @inseut
      @inseut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nushious I'm glad to help! Nice to know you're learning my native language :)) espero que esteja gostando!!

    • @nushious
      @nushious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@inseut Eu estou gostando muito sim :) Eu adoro o sotaque carioca, mas estou praticando com alguns brasileiros e metade deles fala com o rótico ɹ ɻ, então acabo usando os dois sons quando falo, e tenho certeza que soa engraçado kkkk :D

  • @sayedalihashim1568
    @sayedalihashim1568 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was helpful, thank you for sharing.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy to help!

  • @smalls5001
    @smalls5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does р in russian make sound r or ɾ

  • @yasinneysari
    @yasinneysari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a persion i must say we use all of them

  • @ksugiarto9057
    @ksugiarto9057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is /ɽ/ and /ɻ/?

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did go into the second, but not the first. The first is a retroflex version of the tap/flap R sound, which means the tongue tip is a little further back onto the hard palate. I don't find it impactful on learning accents, in my experience.

    • @rajivmahto4763
      @rajivmahto4763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear Sugiarto! Greetings. The first one /ɽ/ is retroflex flap. It's voiced. This consonant sound is predominantly available in Indic Lgs. e.g., In 'Dravidian', the second 'd' is a retroflex flap unlike the first 'd' which rhymes with 'the'. So the word is pronounced as /ðrʌviːɽɪyən/. Due to lack of alphabetical symbols in English it is written with the same alphabet 'd'. Similarly, Lgs like /kʌn-nʌɽɑː/(typed Kannada in English) and my mother-tongue /kʊɽmɑːliː/ (typed Kudmali in English) in their name itself; and several light verbs in HIndi and Urdu have great presence of this consonant.
      Best wishes.
      Johar!

  • @SomeoneCommenting
    @SomeoneCommenting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I speak Spanish, and there's no way that our "rr" sound can get mixed with any of the others. The rule is very simple: trill the R whenever you see RR, or whenever R is the first letter in the word. That's all.

  • @prado7391
    @prado7391 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ugh, I can't do any uvulars

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try a G sound, and keep moving it further back, like you're going to swallow it. There is a plosive uvular, so you'd be doing at least one if you can pull that off! Then if you can open the space a little more, you might find the fricative. The trill is certainly a harder one to get...

    • @prado7391
      @prado7391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AccentHelp I figured it out and now I can do all of them

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@prado7391 Fabulous to hear! If you figured out a secret other than what I said, please share what worked for you!

    • @prado7391
      @prado7391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AccentHelp I did basically what you said. Took me quite a while to figure out what moving my tongue back meant but I got it, thanks

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prado7391 Thanks for sharing!

  • @kajtekz5540
    @kajtekz5540 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is Danish r???

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's a blog post you might find helpful: blogs.transparent.com/danish/2012/04/15/sounds-r-us/

    • @jakobjustinussen2848
      @jakobjustinussen2848 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fifth r from the left, the 'Bottom-up' R, is probably the one you're thinking of

  • @Waymeytc
    @Waymeytc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The taped R sound is also used in northern german dialects for "D" as in nds. "Vadder" the a is short. -> engl. "Father" the a is long. -> ger. "Vater" the a is long.
    ​ʀ is the standard german R sound, trilled in the back.
    ​ʁ is the standard french R sound, it is rubbed not trilled.

  • @poketube6224
    @poketube6224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I use all these R sounds

  • @mm_ww_2
    @mm_ww_2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wowwww. Finally i understood

  • @EugenioQuintana
    @EugenioQuintana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed Portugueses R's

  • @phs125
    @phs125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Almost everybody is ignorant about existence of multiple pronoucuations like this.
    As a kid, I always thought American English must be so hard to pronounce for them because they do weird sounds. While we Indians do straight sounds.
    Now I know the weird sounds they make is normal for them. And our sounds must be weird for them.
    And today I learned why some Europeans can't pronounce R. Because their pronounciation for R is basically 'gh'
    And Americans roll their tongue while saying R. Which I managed to do just now.
    My language apparently had the retroflex R 1000 year ago or so. But dropped it later...

  • @sallyr5947
    @sallyr5947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the moment he takes off the glasses I know it's getting serious

  • @willigoberzerk5546
    @willigoberzerk5546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lost it at 3:40 lol

  • @unneccry2222
    @unneccry2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    first time i heard a non hebrew/arabic speaking person seccesfuly say this upside down R

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! In working on an Israeli accent, I found it challenging to nail that version of this R, which is ever so slightly different than the French trill. Glad to hear that I passed your test!

    • @cinnamonagouti
      @cinnamonagouti 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We have it in some Swedish dialects too (småländska)! I've noted that it's different from the r used in Scania (skånska) as that would be a trilling "french" r, but I never knew they had different phonetics.

  • @perla5465
    @perla5465 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wundəful vidεõ.

  • @eleonorer.6861
    @eleonorer.6861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    English speakers, you win the battle of the ''r''.... you have so many R in your speaking

  • @calincucuietu8220
    @calincucuietu8220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know there are at least four Swedesh r

  • @DougPowell01
    @DougPowell01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tend to get very frustrated, especially with regional variations. Often, I'm told, "you're saying that wrong!" or, from across the pond, "That's not the Queen's English!". So, while this video is helpful, I'm still frustrated.

    • @AccentHelp
      @AccentHelp  ปีที่แล้ว

      In addition to IPA, I teach generalized disappointment with one's place in the world. You're welcome.

  • @jayfrolic1751
    @jayfrolic1751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *laughs in voiced alveolar fricative trill*

  • @phs125
    @phs125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "twill" he says

  • @myhandlehasbeenmishandled
    @myhandlehasbeenmishandled 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    speaking mostly English for the past 25 years has ruined my r(rr). should have practiced more

  • @marekhajduk3905
    @marekhajduk3905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That french/deutche R is the main reason why I dont find these two languages favorable to hear 😅 (French for many more reasons, I just must avoid to hear that language at all, dont know why)
    In our language we only use "r" and those who say "R" instead have speech defection disgnosis with it's own name.

  • @Patricia-hx5vj
    @Patricia-hx5vj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @lithuania_mapper
    @lithuania_mapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ʋ

  • @miligonzalez1517
    @miligonzalez1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you´re handsome