Knife Sharpening - Progression under the Microscope - Fallkniven White Whale
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Always like more sharpening content, but Id really like to see how edges look under the microscope as you progress through the rope tests.
EXCELLENT IDEA!
Noted!
@@CedricAdaWhat microscope did you use?
Good stuff. I (humbly) recommend you try stropping by hand on quality leather with 0,5 micron diamond spray then naked leather, finishing with single strokes on each side. That's what allowed me to get some hair whittling sharpness.
Showing the microscopic progression through your sharpening is a great touch! A really nice new theme to your content, Pete!
That's what I call quality content combined with your personality it's a win for me.
This was a great video! I found the pitting rather interesting.
Best knife channel. Again.
No question 👍🤘 !
Hi Pete, what Microscope do you use? What do you think of it? Thank you!
Thanks for doing this, Pete. Very educational, IMO.
Very cool video, enjoyed it very much. Very sciency. Hope you'll do the high mirror polish with your microscope, will be interesting to see how it looks 🖖🥹
That's the stuff rarely seen on YT, thanks 👍
aw thanks man i appreciate the support!
Impressive video Pete! Would you please provide the make and model of that microscope? I am more impressed with that than I am with the knife edge. Although we all know that when you say an edge is sharp, it is really sharp!
Oh yeah, new knife content! Greetings from Germany 😃
Thanks. That was a nice and chilled enjoyable watch.
Between you and neeves I’ve learned so much and the info just doesn’t stop coming. I love learning from your videos man a little comedy goes a long ways too but I can really get some screaming edges now so thank you
This was interesting. Something I'd love to see, or hear, is how long it takes for each stone. I assume it's different times for different steels eg. 440C V Maxamet, but it would be informative for us plebs.
Love these types of videos you do. Great detail for us sharpening geeks.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I searched for knife sharpering under a microscope and yours was the top hit. Fascinating to see just how hard it is to remove every scratch pattern but reassuring to watch the perfect performance nonetheless.
Very cool seeing things under magnification
watched several guided sharpening videos. Yours is good in a class all alone. Thanks
Pete’s videos are the delicious eucalyptus leaves to my slightly chubby koala: nourishing and fulfilling
Only halfway through, and I love the structure of this video! Also, the sound of that 600 grit was almost relaxing lol. I’ve come to really enjoy sharpening.
Excellent idea to add in the magnifying views.
Great way to show what happens when you sharpen a blade. Love the magnified images!
Loving the microscope shots - so fun!
For us knife nerds this was cool as hell! Thanks Pete!
That’s a great video seeing how the edge progresses! Thanks for taking the time to make it!
Very cool Pete, to see how the edge changes through the stones
Another YES for more sharpening content! Fascinating looks thru the microscope!
Very interesting, going to help me visualize what I'm doing. Educational and fun, thanks Pete. Love to see what the full KME looks like with the higher grit and films.
Hello Pete. Good to see you using a microscope.
Most people only use it on the knife but there are other interesting things to observe.
Stone microscopy is quite interesting. Different brand manufactures with same grit may have quite different abrasive size.
On the other hand same abrasive size may have quite different resulting edge. For example very hard synthetic stones respond to conditioning same as a natural stone would. A 400 grit stone may behave closer to a 700 stone, or even 1000 if you condition to leave rounded abrasives.
I recommend you dim frontal led light or turn it off and use a cellphone light to do sideways illumination. This way you can see topography with much better details than just with the frontal light. For example my Naniwa 1000 and 3000 look exactly the same with frontal light but with sideways illumination its clear the 3k surface is smoother.
I have several stone topography images on my channel if you are interested. It's on Portuguese so probably not much use besides the images. Would be cool to see what you can find with your stones
What in your opinion is the difference between a $20 stone and a $200 stone of the same (labeled) grit?
@@LucasMorris Talking about cheap vs expensive is not a fair comparison because some cheap stones work well and some expensive stones don’t. I’ll tell you the difference from a bad stone to a good one.
Hard stones and soft stones feel quite different but both work well. Best one is personal preference but I hate ultra soft stones. They dish out too fast and most people also dislike them.
Aluminum oxide has different levels of stability. Natural aluminum oxide is more resistant to fracture than standard aluminum oxide so it tends to age with round corners that may reduce cutting speed. If you pair this with a medium hardness stone it works well but pair it with a hard stone that barely releases abrasives it will create a horrible stone that significantly loose cutting speed.
Ceramic aluminum oxide is less stable than standard aluminum oxide. This allows creation of hard stones with better durability and faster cutting speed. That is part of the reason why Kuromaku and Chosera are considered good stones.
Diamond stones tend to break steel carbides and reduce edge durability. This doesn’t always happen but its a common problem so I prefer to avoid diamonds on finishing stones.
Another issue is water retention. Some stones don’t retain water even with long soaking while a better stone doesn’t even require soaking, you can just splash and go.
Cheap stones usually have a bad tactile feedback while more expensive stones have silky touch. This doesn’t affect results or performance but its more pleasant to use with silky touch.
Great video!
Always good stuff! Im a hobby sharpener obsessed with seeing how sharp I can get a blade. I have a T8 but now do almost all my blades on K03. PDT CBN. I make my own stropps on 1x6 aluminum blanks. The microscope is a helpful tool. But for 99% a jewelers loupe will suffice. Love you channel. Cheers from Ohio!
That's an interesting and informative video. I like sharp knives but I'm not a fanatic about it. I'm always intrigued by watching people like you who are so knowledgeable and skilled at sharpening your knives.
That sharpening system you're using looks effective, but I was wondering if you ever cut yourself with so many repeated motions running the sharpening repeatedly toward the knife blade.
Man , I’ve gotten pretty decent at putting a new edge on knives with a fixed angle sharpener 👍. It makes sharpening so much more enjoyable imo. 400 or 600 with some strop does pretty good imo .
Thanks Edge Lord
Great seeing you and Gabe at Homeslice using microscopes. If your microscope interface lets you adjust image settings, you can get much less artifact-y images by turning down contrast, gamma and saturation gains. The image is way darker though, so you need more lighting.
Thanks for the nice video. From the video I can tell that your initial stones did not reach the apex at some points along the edge. That's why you can see two different scratch patterns after 600.
you should do this same thing every 50 or 100 passes through the rope test
Would be interesting to see.
Excellent video Pete!! Love it.
I also use the venev stones. They are amazing. I do however use water with a drop of dishwashing liquid. I dont know if that helpes anything. Thank you. I love your videos😊.
this is S tier knife content BroMontana
tsprof is the only way to go. wish i could afford it, but i wasted 500 on the Edge Pro and the KME
Thanks for showing that! really an informative one
Seems there has been a secondary angle introduced with the 600
That’s a beautiful edge bro 👍👀👏
Great video! Very informative.
Looks like 600 grit created a secondary bevel with a different scratch pattern? Was the angle different?
Edit - nevermind, I see it now
Like being able to see the edge enlarged to that degree. I need to upgrade my sharpening equipment.
Microscope before, during, and after the edge retention test would be interesting as well.
Brother, 1:22 I know that video is speeded up, I know you’ve sharpened hundreds (thousands?) of edges on these sharpening systems.... But I have no idea how you don’t slice off a knuckle. I guess the stone stops you before your hand moves too far forward?
Very cool Pete!
It would be interesting to see the difference between the same grit from different companies. Say, comparing 600 grit from different companies. Do they all leave the same scratch pattern, or is there quite a difference.
Must have missed it. What kind of stones? It's VG10 so you could be using ceramic?!
Looks like you switched to a higher (more obtuse) angle between 400 and 600, was that intentional?
Microscope... it´s like Master @Virtuovice :D
this was just great more please (magna cut)
Please correct me if I’m wrong: Isn’t that supposed to be a convex grind from the factory?
This is a good video... Thank you.
Good, practical level of sharpening--not taken to an extreme.
Maybe you've already answered this, but what make and model is the magnifier?
Also, you mentioned you follow the manga Berserk.
The original guy who devoted his life to it died.
A friend of his who supposedly knows the direction the original guy wanted it to go in is leading the team making new chapters. What do you think of that? There is talk that it's coming to an end. Mentally, Guts is in the worst shape ever. Write it to where Griffith wins and Guts is so thoroughly beaten down that he takes his own life; that would be an appropriately cold, dark, dismal ending. Many wouldn't like that, but Berserk isn't a story that's meant to end happily (in my opinion).
Great content! Thanks for sharing!
Your fingertip has more metal in it than my entire knife collection 😉😉
so many shavings and filings haha....serious question though, and anyone can answer...when do you know to move to the next stone or that you are done with a single stone? is there a visual cue? or tactile cue?
Most people do it when there's a burr through the whole edge because it means you reached the apex. Same for other stones. If you're trying to get a really nice mirror you keep going until you got most of the scratches from the previous stone out. E ery stone you go up creates finer scratches but it's hard to get deep ones out with finer stones. It's something you get a knack for the more you do it.
I personally can feel when the edge feedback on the stone stops smoothing out, and then I take a look at the edge to double check the scratches before I go finer.
Hello Pete, how can you compensate the sharpening angle depending on the thickness of the stone to be used with the TSProf?
Which VG-10 you like more, Fallkniven's or Spyderco's chef's knives?
It looks like your microscope's lights are a bit too bright, on mine it's possible to dim it down, highly recommended
I have the Wicked Edge. What do you suggest for a microscope?
Very interesting!
cool video!
Good video! What's the model of microscope used?
its a super cheap one, i wouldnt say its a quality item but it works enough without spending heaps
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@@CedricAda Thanks a lot for the info!
Looks like you increased the angle a fraction of a degree between 400 and 600 grit.
Thanks.
Super intressting 👍
In my limited experience, knives seem to have a higher HRC towards the back half. Is that true or is it my imagination?
Mostly you're imagination. When sharpening the front half of the blade that is curved the part of the stone that's hitting the blade is a much smaller contact point putting more pressure on such a small spot and making the stone bite more. When moving back towards the plung grind the surface area is increased given that area is usually straight and making the stone work harder to remove steel in a larger area. Take a hand file and run it over a point or edge of scrap steel then do the same over a larger flat surface. Over the point or edge the file will bite much more than the longer flat surface that will feel more like the file is skating across the steel.
There's no reason for me to watch a creature feature after seeing the microscopic view of that blade. Or was it a saw?
Pretty interesting to see it really close up like that. Uploaded just in time to brush my teeth to as well - bonus! I nearly had to complete my evening’s ablutions while watching a sun standard youtube channel…I think I may have a problem 🤔
Sub-standard rather - autocorrect remains my nemesis.
You brush your teeth while watching knife sharpening videos? I think this would make me feel like I was sharpening my teeth! 😁
I’ve got two young kids and a wife, so brushing my teeth and using the loo are two brief but golden opportunities for a bit of TH-cam. Plus you’d be amazed at the razor edge you can get on your teeth if you accidentally use 0.5 micron diamond compound instead of toothpaste 😜
@@JoviAl-wi8sc - Sharp wit! Sharp tongue! I guess a wife and 2 kids will keep a keen edge on your time management. It will get better, and when it does you will appreciate how great it is now. This is life.
Not bad for a convex edge...
juxtaposed my wifes dinner choice tonight.
Long live the edge lords!
Love that tspro I just wish they had more stone options like the KME does but if I had it over I’d probably go with the tspro over the KME mostly because it can sharpen knives over 6 inch’s with no problem while the KME is built more for 5 inch and below blade lengths which for 1/4 of the knives I own it’s a problem.
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FFS wipe the knife before you show it under microscope. Try to use full length of the stone as well.
It's a boy!
Sorry that scope gave me the gyno vibes
PizzA
What is the name of the mechanism that he's using to sharpen the blade at the perfect angle ? I've never seen it before