Paulemics - Islam vs Saint Paul, pt2

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  • Islam vs Saint Paul. Let's laugh with disbelief as we learn what the major Islamic "scholiars" and "historians" from the 8th to 14th century had to say about Saint Paul and Christianity.
    Document sources:
    P.S. van Koningsveld, ‘The Islamic image of Paul and the origin of the Gospel of Barnabas,’ Jerusalem Studies in Arabic and Islam 20, 1996, pp. 200-28.
    Quoted from: Ibn Ḥazm alAndalusī. Kitāb al-fiṣal fī al-milal wa-al-ahwāʾ wa-al-niḥal (Cairo 1317-21) (5 vols.), vol. 2, pp. 221-22.
    Gabriel Said Reynolds - www.jstor.org/...
    Michael F. Kuhn - Early Islamic Perspectives of the Apostle Paul as a Narrative Framework for Taḥrīf
    jihadopedia.co...
    William Muir, The Coran. Its Composition and Teaching; and the Testimony it Bears to the Holy Scriptures (London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1878), 116.
    The Corân. Its composition and teaching; and the testimony it bears to the Holy Scriptures : Muir, William, Sir, 1819-1905 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive - archive.org/de...
    REV. W ST. CLAIR TISDALL, M.A., D.D.: THE ORIGINAL SOURCES OF THE QUR'AN - CHAPTER IV. THE INFLUENCE OF CHRISTIANITY AND CHRISTIAN APOCRYPHAL BOOKS. (answering-islam.org)
    www.answering-...
    quranx.com/Had...
    Perceptions of Christianity Among South Asian Muslims in America - books.google.p...
    brill.com/view...
    www.academia.e...
    Michael F. Kuhn - Early Islamic Perspectives of the Apostle Paul as a Narrative Framework for Taḥrīf
    Bammel, Ernst. “Excerpts from a New Gospel?” Novum Testamentum, vol. 10, no. 1, 1968, pp. 1-9. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/1560078. Accessed 24 July 2021.
    Critical Islamic law resources: Reliance of the Traveller, with Appendix W - www.dropbox.co...
    The Hedaya: Commentary on the Islamic Laws - Vol 2
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    Digest of Moohummudan Law: www.dropbox.co...
    Encyclopaedia of Islam, vol 13 (Index) - www.dropbox.co...
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    The Original Sources Of The Qur'an By W. St. Clair Tisdall, M.A., D.D., 1905 A.D.
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  • @wylderose3878
    @wylderose3878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this, I will need to listen again and take notes.
    So much new content for me.
    GBY and keep you safe.

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. Please share and use this information. People need to learn this, especially apologists.

  • @quackk4605
    @quackk4605 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, brethren. I just wanted to say thank you once again. I do truly understand why we ,as servants of Christ, must go after their scholiars. I was just having a little read of one listed sources which you have kindly, giving us access to. I never knew there’s three types of legal marriage in Mohammedan law: Perminent, temporary, and servile marriage. Respect from Australia 🇦🇺.

  • @Katharsis540
    @Katharsis540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something to watch for when get home. Sorry missed the live stream.

  • @t.l.6219
    @t.l.6219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The subscribers on this channel should be way more than this.

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Working on it ;-) Thank you for the kind comment

  • @Farfalle91
    @Farfalle91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It was strong! They keep saying that Paul has led us all wrong, but they can't show how or where. They only repeat one thing and the same "Jesus did not die" "Jesus is not God" is what they can say about it😂😂No story, only hate and lies itself, they have no shame. 80-90% of Muslims do not even know what they believe or what parrots from others. Imagine standing before God and he will ask them why you believed this? and they will say "because I didn't know?" Wrong answer, THEY DONT WANT KNOW and LISTEN

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just one false narrative after the next, and no evidence

    • @Farfalle91
      @Farfalle91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LloydDeJongh However, I must admit that I laughed 😂😂

  • @karenthompson1337
    @karenthompson1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Islam Unveiled 👍

  • @LizJohnston-s7w
    @LizJohnston-s7w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved this video

  • @Small_Clips_Apologetics
    @Small_Clips_Apologetics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:40 - And then Yasir Qadhi later said he used the word wording after he a huge rebuke.

  • @t.l.6219
    @t.l.6219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, I was thinking how did they get to St. Paul being king and committing suicide. So just like they mixed Mary the Mother of Christ with Mariam the sister of Aaron

  • @built4speed101
    @built4speed101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Islam Unveiled

  • @Katharsis540
    @Katharsis540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unveiled sounds like removing the burka.

  • @yakovmatityahu
    @yakovmatityahu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If i had many lives to live, i would chose Jesus over Muhammed every life, even if i have to be killed.

  • @cogit0ergo705
    @cogit0ergo705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang - no notification from Screwtube...

  • @cogit0ergo705
    @cogit0ergo705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Comment on 2 things.
    1) . Saul was actually pretty well off by the standards of the day. He was well educated when most people were illiterate. He was a roman citzen from his father's side which put him above the conquered rabble, and he was a Pharisee - a religious leader. He could have lived a comfortable life.
    Instead he gives that up to be beaten, whipped, imprisoned, and ultimately beheaded. Can't say it was for the money. :-D
    2) A tesseract (4 dimensional hyper-cube, not the Marvel movie prop) has as one of it's representations a "Dali Cross".
    I tend to picture Trinity as the animation on Wikipedia - where a square becomes a cube becomes a tesseract. They are distinct of each other, but they are all OF each other - just in different dimensional expression.
    You present great and insightful info. I just dread the thought of how many MORE little girls will suffer under the cult of Islam - Taliban or other....

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very well stated, and relevant to the accusations against Paul. He lost a lot and gained nothing by secular standards

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LloydDeJongh It's brilliant that islam tips us off to the counterfeit nature of their whole veiled edifice.of brutalism. They claim the ka'aba is a cube, it never was and isn't now. - its the very definition of the psyop term "social proof"
      Build a rectangular box. insist its a cuboid,
      primacy and repetition.
      Talking of veils., Islam Unveiled, YES clever riff on that hogwash Isis Unveiled, and indirecly alludes to the pagan dance of the 7 veils as in the "pass the parcel like" 7 layers of yellow journalism newsprint mystery parcel that gets passed around in a jerk circle party by islamic scholiars Only to finally reveal, the last time the music stops, to the sound of their gnashing of teeth, the naughty children's prize, a lump of coal, the worthless pagan black stone.

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Telling point about Paul, very succinct.
      talking about geometry and architecture, given that KSA built the world's greatest Clocktower (Big Ben x 10 in scale) attached to a massive Vegas style neon Hotel, after bulldozing all the archaeology, and deliberately upstaging the ka'aba., we need to ask, who are they worshiping now? Kronos?

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Blissblizzard You have to wonder about that. Destroying any archeology ... because they KNOW there isn't any. They know they know they're lying. "We have the watches. They have the time."

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the with counterfeiting they can build back better haha (needs moar bling) Haj for the rich is like those dreadful glampiing safaris where cowards shoot a semi domesticated tethered lion on a breeding farm.
      Haj is all about the bragging rights - "call me Hajji" and "look at my big fierce lion rug that I ran down on foot with my spear." same same. Dupers delight.
      Archeology? well I guess they settled that argument the muslim way, with semtex.
      Aso salafis destroy tombs so muslims dont pray them. Also salafis, " all pray towards Hagars tomb 5 times a day. But if we don't mention shirk its not happening." Crazy town.

  • @wylderose3878
    @wylderose3878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Islam Unveiled is my preference.👍

  • @jengleheimerschmitt7941
    @jengleheimerschmitt7941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All this talk about providing your sauces is making me hungry.

  • @FreeRadical7118
    @FreeRadical7118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two comment attempts were flushed down the toilet by YT. Who knew Muslims were so sensitive?

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lately I can barely post a word... YT is partisan. Annoying AF

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Hazm = Khazem. Covered that in pt1

  • @paulanchor867
    @paulanchor867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Islamic apologists like to use the account of Paul taking the Nazarite vow to claim that early Christians were Torah observant in opposition to Paul. Have you got any observations on this as a counteroffensive to this strategy? I have a theory arising from the text itself which I think is a very effective counter argument.

  • @SakiStargazer
    @SakiStargazer ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I blind or is the third part not available?

    • @LloydDeJongh
      @LloydDeJongh  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not completed, not available

  • @barringtonbennett5885
    @barringtonbennett5885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they can't cause they are on their payroll zeen bless 🙏

  • @Small_Clips_Apologetics
    @Small_Clips_Apologetics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    31:23 - I also say they are in the fight not their book.

  • @t.l.6219
    @t.l.6219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Islam unveiled sounds better

  • @savior2899
    @savior2899 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️

  • @Small_Clips_Apologetics
    @Small_Clips_Apologetics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    35:50 - Circumcision was never a Permanent Covenant. The Covenant re: Isaac was Permanent.

  • @Small_Clips_Apologetics
    @Small_Clips_Apologetics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:34 - Sounds like The Life of Muhammad by Ibn Ishaq. But in there it says that Paul wasn't a disciple. Quote below:
    Pg 653
    Those whom Jesus son of Mary sent, both disciples and those who came after them, in the land were: Peter the disciple and Paul with him, (Paul belonged to the followers and was not a disciple) to Rome; Andrew and Matthew to the land of the cannibals; Thomas to the land of Babel which is in the lalld of the east; Philip to Carthage which is Africa; John to Ephesus the city of the young men of the cave; James to Jerusalem which is Aelia the city of the 'sanctuary; Bartholomew to Arabia which is the land of the Hijaz; Simon to the land of the Berbers; Judah who was not one of the disciples was put in the place of Judas.'

  • @paulanchor867
    @paulanchor867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kaaba made out of cheap breeze blocks.

  • @LizJohnston-s7w
    @LizJohnston-s7w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. Moha wasn't that smart. Some other group is behind the folded up cross.

  • @GospelEDGE
    @GospelEDGE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kaaba in Skirt 4:55