This story ending with "did I ever tell you that Shadow is a robot? Oh well, never mind, see ya" is unintentionally the funniest thing anyone has ever written
this is in my top 5 favorite series solely because it gets so bad that arin literally 1. says he wants to call his mother and have her tell him he’s beautiful 2. gets overjoyed even when they hit a CHECKPOINT 3. actually calls out to god and asks him to save him
"Not very good at it." Maybe he sucks at killing enemies because he never quite figured out the level system in the game, lol. How he can ignore information that's literally onscreen at all times baffles me.
As someone who has (unfortunately) 100%ed this game, I can tell you beyond any shadow of a doubt, dying in this game is not even remotely your own fault 90% of the time, and that’s not even slightly an exaggeration.
As a kid who played this and gave up long before 100% completion, I can back this up! I think it was the rising lava in the city level for Team Shadow and the Croc Escape for Team Sonic that gave me the most heart palpitations and probably got me to give up those runthroughs
I have memories of fighting the flying final boss in this game when i was like 10 years old But after seeing this playthrough, im sure my dad had to have helped me beat it in secret, there's no way i went trough this hell alone.
8 years later and HE'S STILL TALKING ABOUT *FUCKIN JACKAL* I think of all the times he's forgotten legendary playtroughs that even reached outside the usual viewers but this one is SINGED into his brain. I'm not even mad, just so baffled.
I swear, there was a point while they were playing and Danny was like: "how do you beat this?" And arin went and said "wha- I DONT KNOW! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU," but is was actually pretty funny
This video came out on a Thursday, so that "Feelin' good on a Wednesday, hey it is Wednesday... Wait, no it's Thursday." seems just a little more funny.
I think what makes Arin seemingly "bad", is that he's encountering actual in game glitches and issues which makes him get mad and frustrated, which in tern, means that because he's so angry he isn't able to "focus"?? I guess is the word. I'm sure most people are like "well no shit", but I don't know I gotta make some sense of this because I never encountered these problems when I played Heroes, then again its been a good 6 years since I played it
It's also because he's notorious for not reading the in-game instructions. There are so many things that the game explains, like team formations or how the bobsled works, and he either doesn't read them to begin with, or forgets them. Nearly every Team Chaotix stage was him not paying attention to what the mission is when both the loading screen and the walkie talkie tell you. That's some world class not-paying-attention.
@@starcrysis23ADHD doesn't automatically make someone have more trouble with every game; it depends on the person and game. I can certainly be a factor but it's not automatically an excuse for some playthroughs where tutorials get totally skipped either. I would also argue that Arin and Dan giving continuous commentary the whole time, and for many continuous hours on end, is probably a pretty big distraction as well compared to if they just played a game silently by themselves outside of the show.
Arin: I have adhd People who understand adhd on some level literally the whole rest of the time: WHY IS HE NOT NOTICING THINGS Edit if you try to talk about being ND invariably someone will come mansplain your own brain to you
Funnily enough, having ADHD makes you far more likely to notice things. It's a common misconception that people with ADHD have a short attention span; in actuality, they just have difficulty regulating it. They may have trouble focusing on a single task for an extended period, and because of this, they will also notice many different things in their environment. The mind constantly searches for something more stimulating and tends to notice things more. TL;DR: Running through missing everything has nothing to do with his ADHD; Arin is just obstinate.
@@blturndon’t explain my own neurodivergence to me but thanks Also adhd is different in different people. Arin’s a stranger to both of us. Settle down.
Not only it took all that time to understand that he needs to hold the button to go faster, he NEVER going to use it again... The episode after, he is back to spamming the button instead of holding it... This game sucks and is a shame, but not only Arin take an eternity to get simple concept in games, but he FORGET what he learned right away. Still, congratulation to him to finish the game. This was hell.
25:40 Did he seriously think Omega was the one who needs to catch the vine? And not, oh I dunno... the character on TOP of the totem pole? The one he's actually controlling??
19:18 "IT'S SO UNFAIR- why am i falling for so long?" 23:00 "Homer wrote shorter odysseys than this" 24:27 "No! How many times does this have to happen before people see that this is ass!?" 31:06 "Why would you have a painful nut?" 36:35 "... Horror" 37:07 "Wow this is a long way down" 37:50 "Just hope that i can make it through the day- *dies* OH REALLY?!" 39:43 "I've accepted the fate I've brought upon myself"
It's crazy how so many of this game's problems could be fixed by having falls not count as a death, and just spawn you back on the platform. Really, that's most of it. Bullshit fights, the glitches, the ghost letters in boss arenas... all that could easily be ignored if so much of this game's consistent control and design problems were swept under the rug by one single, simple change.
I enjoyed it a ton when I was like 7 and I replayed the entire game like a year ago and it isn't really anything like as hard and janky as Arin makes it look lol
Seeing arin suffer during the rail sections is why to this FUCKING DAY I always use fly mode during rail sections its just not worth the fucking headache.
I still can't believe that for that last segment you had to hold B I'm now pretty sure that is the same reason I never beat the shadow run (me screaming like Arin in the background)
I love the game grumps very much and I can't imagine myself leaving an angry comment ever. It's just... man I actually ENJOYED the shit out of this game when I was a kid. Like Arin, I did not had many videogames when I was young, so... I played this over and over again because it was fun to me! I had no problem understanding the buttons, how to defeat enemies... I feel like Arin is trying to defeat "rock" with "scissors" and getting angry because he can't win. :,c and it hurts because I can't help him! Also he does not like or want to do tutorials and that doesn't help. I know he might expect some genius out of Megaman X where you learn the game by playing but, well, unfortunately this is not the case! IDK man, I just hope he have fun with other games.
When you a child you have a lot of time and no taste. I'm myself remember a lot of shity games that i finished to 100%. The problem is that a lot of sonic fans using "i played this as a child and loved it and never had any problems." In reality, they had problems, they replayed the same level over and over again and, basically, trained themselves like speedruners, and now expecting this from everyone else.
43:50 was entirely Arin's fault. He just had to jump through the rainbow ring. Arin, the "Tails attack" only works if it's leveled up with the yellow balls lol Uses Chaos Control and just stands there not attacking the boss. They don't pay attention to the "plot" and wonder what's going on...
Well, technically no. The shadow that was found in heroes is the REAL REAL shadow but eggman copied him to produce bio mechanical cyborg shadows. As Neo metal said, “ULTIMATE LIFE FORM DATA has been copied.” As far as I’m aware of, Neo metal can’t copy data from synthetics that cannot use chaos energy. The only hole in that logic is then how did he use chaos energy to transform into metal madness and overlord. Simple. Because the data used to give him that new form came from embodiments of chaos, living entities that can use chaos energy. If the power of chaos is an ever changing, mystical energy, then it stands to reason that chaos data can do the same since it’s comprised of the same energy.
"If a man JO's in the woods and there's no bear-" Dan, if there was a bear, it'd be a cruising spot for gay men, that's a completely different situation. :P Also, I played this game _as a kid_ and the first stage rails turned up I knew holding B (well, O in my case) was how you slid fast. Like, Arin, seriously, tutorials, please, use them.
here you go! It was just "Best of Sonic Heroes" before since it came out before it was established they were doing the other playthroughs but I've renamed it now to keep it on theme with the others th-cam.com/video/LPwnncj3MtU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=LesmoBestOfs
thanks for pointing it out, since it's only about 2 seconds I've straight up cropped it out of the video completely, edit should take effect within a couple of hours!
@@LesmoBestOfs92 Bless you for actually taking it seriously < 3 sadly this happens later in the video as well. I wish there was some way to solve this, but there's so much footage of that attack I've given up spamming my message anymore
This story ending with "did I ever tell you that Shadow is a robot? Oh well, never mind, see ya" is unintentionally the funniest thing anyone has ever written
Iizuka: "imma write a a story to tie into that line"
It's so crazy. When I saw that for the first time I was dumbfounded.
”I can be playing this over and over again and I would never know”
~ Arin Hanson, before going insane in Team Chaotix run, with looping map design
If he went insane, then is he really wrong?
this is in my top 5 favorite series solely because it gets so bad that arin literally
1. says he wants to call his mother and have her tell him he’s beautiful
2. gets overjoyed even when they hit a CHECKPOINT
3. actually calls out to god and asks him to save him
4 - it made Dan feel a bit of that anxiety and fear, especially when he screamed on behalf of Arin NO!!
“They fly by so quickly, why not just do them all?”
Oh, Arin...
Dan’s “NO!” is still one of my favorite reactions ever. Actual fear.
*_N Y O_*
To anyone wondering, yes Arin knew he had to destroy all enemies on that rasing lava section.
He was just not very good at doing it
Understatement of the CENTURY……
"Not very good at it." Maybe he sucks at killing enemies because he never quite figured out the level system in the game, lol. How he can ignore information that's literally onscreen at all times baffles me.
@@kegmonkey5648 idk what it is about game grumps specifically that makes people forget the concept of adhd
Remember: Arin's funeral will have the Casino stage's music playing in the background.
"They fly by so quickly" and now there's a 50 minute compilation
Maybe the real "Sonic Heroes" were the friends we made along the way.
Hey, wait a minute...
Best of Team Dark? GOOD.
Lesmo: take _this_
Aniliation
Worthless consumer models.
KEEL!
AM I A JAR? AM I A JAR?
“CHIPS AHOY! YUM YUM” fucking kills me every time
As someone who has (unfortunately) 100%ed this game, I can tell you beyond any shadow of a doubt, dying in this game is not even remotely your own fault 90% of the time, and that’s not even slightly an exaggeration.
As a kid who played this and gave up long before 100% completion, I can back this up! I think it was the rising lava in the city level for Team Shadow and the Croc Escape for Team Sonic that gave me the most heart palpitations and probably got me to give up those runthroughs
I have memories of fighting the flying final boss in this game when i was like 10 years old
But after seeing this playthrough, im sure my dad had to have helped me beat it in secret, there's no way i went trough this hell alone.
Man Arin was on the verge of having a SERIOUS mental breakdown at the end of team dark's story....
The "alls I know is that im scarred" followed by victory music at 49:20 is amazing.
My favorite part has to be lava section 8:27 Arin sounds like an karen at a supermarket in a funny way
I think this game is literally bad for Arin’s health. This much actual stress is genuinely bad for his health.
Yeah. Hope he's okay.
Oh he’s gonna literally go insane with Chaotix.
He actually did surprisingly well.
To be fair chaotix wasn’t difficult it was weird. While dark was the more difficult of the four 🤔
"Did we play this level before or is it different now?" the compilation
13:50 I always thought Omega said "Wisconsin Supermodel"
The world may never know
"Worthless consumer models"? Nah, "Wisconsin Supermodels" sounds a lot better.
It’s a way more specific and arguably non-insult
Superior phrase
of all this game's crimes, having both Shadow and Rouge say "ill take it from here" when you switch to them is surely the biggest one
I... think I'm actually worried about Arin. This can't be healthy.
8 years later and HE'S STILL TALKING ABOUT *FUCKIN JACKAL*
I think of all the times he's forgotten legendary playtroughs that even reached outside the usual viewers but this one is SINGED into his brain. I'm not even mad, just so baffled.
I'm just now appreciating how much anxiety this game/playthrough gives me.
I can't imagine how Lesmo's ears function after these Sonic montages
Who's to say they do?
Yet another compilation of meowing along with the music.
13:12 Ah, there it is!
Sonic Heroes is a gift, truly.
28:40 I can't help but see Dan's face in the texture of the rock on the right of shadow
Dan singing the “Sonic Heroooooes” song after Arin’s sadness is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
42:15 is amazing has he even ever been this angry before
Ross and sonic are killing arin’s mental health
The casino level song actively increases the frequency of my depressive episodes
I swear, there was a point while they were playing and Danny was like: "how do you beat this?" And arin went and said "wha- I DONT KNOW! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU," but is was actually pretty funny
That was in the finale of Team Sonic.
@@thelastwindwaker7948 thank youuuu
lesmo, my wonderful wonderful person, you've stricken at a great time. listening to this while i work on research for a project. thank you
Every time with Arin I find a new kind of anger that nobody has figured out yet.
9:36 my absolute favorite part
This video came out on a Thursday, so that "Feelin' good on a Wednesday, hey it is Wednesday... Wait, no it's Thursday." seems just a little more funny.
Something about Arin's rage just fills me with such immense glee. I guess it's a catharsis, it just makes me so giddy
Jesus, what a coincidence. I was just watching team Sonic when I see this uploaded.
"Fire! Fire! I am a jar! I am a jar!"
33:22 I felt that "NO". Imagine going through only that, just for the game to not register you touching the goal, and nearly dying at the end.
"Do i have to kill all of the bad boys?"
20 minutes previously: "Destroy all robots to continue."
1:46 Arin channels his inner Jon
Been waiting on this since the last compilation . great work!
Can someone please enlighten me what the hell is Omega supposed to say when it sounds like "Am I a jar?"
So, they say "annihilation, charge!" but as they attack, it cuts off in the middle and comes out as "annihi-charge!"
If the debate of whether or not rouge is evil, just remember she's a government worker, I think that's all the proof you need
Lesmo baby! Thank you for the blessing. Have a great day.
AM I A JAR!? AM I A JAR!?
*Annihilation*
I think what makes Arin seemingly "bad", is that he's encountering actual in game glitches and issues which makes him get mad and frustrated, which in tern, means that because he's so angry he isn't able to "focus"?? I guess is the word. I'm sure most people are like "well no shit", but I don't know I gotta make some sense of this because I never encountered these problems when I played Heroes, then again its been a good 6 years since I played it
I haven't played the game in a long time either, but I'm certain I never had anywhere near as much trouble as Arin had.
@@MontyEggman I guess it's one of those case by case things
It's also because he's notorious for not reading the in-game instructions. There are so many things that the game explains, like team formations or how the bobsled works, and he either doesn't read them to begin with, or forgets them. Nearly every Team Chaotix stage was him not paying attention to what the mission is when both the loading screen and the walkie talkie tell you. That's some world class not-paying-attention.
Does everyone just conveniently forget Arin has ADHD and obviously has anxiety?
@@starcrysis23ADHD doesn't automatically make someone have more trouble with every game; it depends on the person and game. I can certainly be a factor but it's not automatically an excuse for some playthroughs where tutorials get totally skipped either.
I would also argue that Arin and Dan giving continuous commentary the whole time, and for many continuous hours on end, is probably a pretty big distraction as well compared to if they just played a game silently by themselves outside of the show.
Reasons why arin is angry at the game
1.skipping the tutorial
2.forgetting the controls
3.suck so bad at the game that it hurts to watch
ADHD will do that to you 🤷♀️
@@tickk5448There are plenty of people with ADHD who don't skip tutorials and are good at most games that they play.
Thank you for the edit on arins explanation. It really annoyed me for no good reason that they didn't show it.
Arin: I have adhd
People who understand adhd on some level literally the whole rest of the time: WHY IS HE NOT NOTICING THINGS
Edit if you try to talk about being ND invariably someone will come mansplain your own brain to you
Funnily enough, having ADHD makes you far more likely to notice things.
It's a common misconception that people with ADHD have a short attention span; in actuality, they just have difficulty regulating it. They may have trouble focusing on a single task for an extended period, and because of this, they will also notice many different things in their environment. The mind constantly searches for something more stimulating and tends to notice things more.
TL;DR: Running through missing everything has nothing to do with his ADHD; Arin is just obstinate.
@@blturndon’t explain my own neurodivergence to me but thanks
Also adhd is different in different people. Arin’s a stranger to both of us. Settle down.
It’s wild to me that original SEGA Sonic games were so good, and then almost every game after is just so bad. 😂
wow i just looked up dog police and that is the most 80s furry shit i've ever seen. if dan was a music video, he'd be that.
Not only it took all that time to understand that he needs to hold the button to go faster, he NEVER going to use it again...
The episode after, he is back to spamming the button instead of holding it...
This game sucks and is a shame, but not only Arin take an eternity to get simple concept in games, but he FORGET what he learned right away.
Still, congratulation to him to finish the game.
This was hell.
tbh i dont think it ever is useful again or before that point
@@donb7519He failed every single special stage because of that too.
I am a jar!
33:30 NO!! Lol 😆
25:40 Did he seriously think Omega was the one who needs to catch the vine? And not, oh I dunno... the character on TOP of the totem pole? The one he's actually controlling??
31:21
LMAO! Dolphin emulator. Hope Nintendo does not find out or...
19:18 "IT'S SO UNFAIR- why am i falling for so long?"
23:00 "Homer wrote shorter odysseys than this"
24:27 "No! How many times does this have to happen before people see that this is ass!?"
31:06 "Why would you have a painful nut?"
36:35 "... Horror"
37:07 "Wow this is a long way down"
37:50 "Just hope that i can make it through the day- *dies* OH REALLY?!"
39:43 "I've accepted the fate I've brought upon myself"
It's crazy how so many of this game's problems could be fixed by having falls not count as a death, and just spawn you back on the platform. Really, that's most of it. Bullshit fights, the glitches, the ghost letters in boss arenas... all that could easily be ignored if so much of this game's consistent control and design problems were swept under the rug by one single, simple change.
Was Arin's emulator glitchy as fuck, or is this game really that terrible?
The game sucks
@@auvionx8940 more like a combination of the game, emulation, and arins bad gameplay
I enjoyed it a ton when I was like 7 and I replayed the entire game like a year ago and it isn't really anything like as hard and janky as Arin makes it look lol
Yes.
Seeing arin suffer during the rail sections is why to this FUCKING DAY I always use fly mode during rail sections its just not worth the fucking headache.
Chaos control!
LesmoBestOfs: Take this!
IT'S NO USE
@@MrVince329 GREATGREATGREAT
Get a load of this
Annihilate! Dodge! Annihilate! Dodge!
Get ready to be SCHOOLED!
Can’t wait for “forced stealth sections” in team chaotix…..Arin DEFINITELY will be good at those parts…
i mean he honestly was i think he only got caught like 3 times total
I still can't believe that for that last segment you had to hold B I'm now pretty sure that is the same reason I never beat the shadow run
(me screaming like Arin in the background)
for some reason i read the title as team dank
I love the game grumps very much and I can't imagine myself leaving an angry comment ever.
It's just... man I actually ENJOYED the shit out of this game when I was a kid. Like Arin, I did not had many videogames when I was young, so... I played this over and over again because it was fun to me! I had no problem understanding the buttons, how to defeat enemies... I feel like Arin is trying to defeat "rock" with "scissors" and getting angry because he can't win. :,c and it hurts because I can't help him! Also he does not like or want to do tutorials and that doesn't help. I know he might expect some genius out of Megaman X where you learn the game by playing but, well, unfortunately this is not the case!
IDK man, I just hope he have fun with other games.
i also loved the game as a kid but looking at it now as an adult whose taken game design courses and i hate pretty much everything about it
When you a child you have a lot of time and no taste. I'm myself remember a lot of shity games that i finished to 100%. The problem is that a lot of sonic fans using "i played this as a child and loved it and never had any problems." In reality, they had problems, they replayed the same level over and over again and, basically, trained themselves like speedruners, and now expecting this from everyone else.
@@protoney8122 or as projared pointed out with sonic adventures 2 just constantly replayed the best parts
GOOD
43:50 was entirely Arin's fault. He just had to jump through the rainbow ring.
Arin, the "Tails attack" only works if it's leveled up with the yellow balls lol
Uses Chaos Control and just stands there not attacking the boss.
They don't pay attention to the "plot" and wonder what's going on...
annihilation
Just wonderful
Look, if this doesn’t have “HOT BUBBLE OF FART” I’m gonna be a little disappointed
out of curiosity I played through this to see if it was THAT bad, the game isn't as good as I remember, but nah arin just sucks
Well, technically no. The shadow that was found in heroes is the REAL REAL shadow but eggman copied him to produce bio mechanical cyborg shadows. As Neo metal said, “ULTIMATE LIFE FORM DATA has been copied.” As far as I’m aware of, Neo metal can’t copy data from synthetics that cannot use chaos energy. The only hole in that logic is then how did he use chaos energy to transform into metal madness and overlord. Simple. Because the data used to give him that new form came from embodiments of chaos, living entities that can use chaos energy. If the power of chaos is an ever changing, mystical energy, then it stands to reason that chaos data can do the same since it’s comprised of the same energy.
"If a man JO's in the woods and there's no bear-"
Dan, if there was a bear, it'd be a cruising spot for gay men, that's a completely different situation. :P
Also, I played this game _as a kid_ and the first stage rails turned up I knew holding B (well, O in my case) was how you slid fast. Like, Arin, seriously, tutorials, please, use them.
FINALLY!
So some of what gamma said was;
Annihi-CHARGE, and worthless consumer models
GOOD.
The Mario 64 meets Battle Kid with a Sonic skin slapped all over it!!!
43:40 Why didn't he switch into Rouge before he would have fallen down?
Because it only changes once you hit the ground, not during mid jump.
Where’s the team sonic comp? I can only find Dark, Rose, and Chaotix
here you go! It was just "Best of Sonic Heroes" before since it came out before it was established they were doing the other playthroughs but I've renamed it now to keep it on theme with the others th-cam.com/video/LPwnncj3MtU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=LesmoBestOfs
@LesmoBestOfs PLEASE PUT A SEIZURE WARNING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TITLE CUZ OF 11:52
thanks for pointing it out, since it's only about 2 seconds I've straight up cropped it out of the video completely, edit should take effect within a couple of hours!
@@LesmoBestOfs92 Bless you for actually taking it seriously < 3 sadly this happens later in the video as well. I wish there was some way to solve this, but there's so much footage of that attack I've given up spamming my message anymore
48:05 Jesus! JESUS!! JESUS!!!
How can someone be this bad at a easy game
TEAM DARK BABY WOOOOOOO
17:28 thank you
and 13:03
This had to be the worst gameplay Arin played. Times where he got the hang of it and overall he straight up fail
Team Blast!
21:12 - 21:40 😂😂😂😂😂😂
48:05