Hi Nicky, I had to laugh when you said 'the Roman Catholic Church' who do things very differently to us. Yes we do but so many Roman Catholic Churches here in Australia (a bit more of the evangelical ones) have implemented the Alpha course. And thank God for that! Because of doing the course in 2018 I started tuning into your HTB sermons online after we finished the course. I see now God was preparing many of us for this moment in time. I live in the city far away from my family but I am comforted and grow in strength to know I can tune into HTB and your sermons even though it's across a few oceans here in Australia. Thank you for these messages. Well done!
Hi Nicky - You have been a huge part of my daily Bible studies for the last couple of years. What a blessing you have been in my life. Thanks and God bless you - Keith
Amen! Wonderful reminder and perspective. Suffering is a consequence of free choice, and yet through suffering we can see better choices. Blessings and safety for you all.
It is a broken world. Let us use this crises and with the help of God we may use love to serve more of those that as you say are starving and suffering from being homeless.
brilliant Nicky, so good to think and actually meditate a little on suffering and what it means for all of us. Thank you for sharing this and for all you are doing :) I have watched this today, the Saturday after Good Friday, and reports are coming out of President Trump's "have a great Good Friday" greeting to the American people. This has been criticised, both for the context of Good Friday in and of itself, and also because of the intense suffering that is happening at this time. It made me think of how we might respond to Easter Sunday. With celebration? with cautious celebration? It occurred to me that the resurrection of Jesus deserves the greatest celebration, as His resurrection points to the life He bought for us in this life and the life that follows our earthly one. Whether we're experiencing suffering or blessing, or a combination of both. How we do this to a potentially watching world.....Easter Sunday is a world event......is something I'm less sure of, and I pray for you as you are someone charged with that responsibility and its execution. Ultimately, however, Jesus' resurrection has not felt as prophetic as it does now, in my life time. God bless you, and thank you again:)
This lockdown we are in is giving people time for thought. A break from the constant work work must pay the mortgage and meet all the brown envelopes pouring through the door. Rather than go into fear about money and an uncertain future( which is outside of your control anyway) I believe the way forward is to start each morning with a prayer of gratitude and speak out the things that God has blessed you with like your relationships And be content in all things and God is mighty and if you fear God you won't fear anything in this world. It's a great place to be as you were fearfully and wonderfully made. God bless HTB and keep safe
Thanks for all the fantastic work. With regards to the questions over why coronavirus is "allowed" something I believe I've been given might be of interest. Having been diagnosed with cancer 4 years ago, a short time after my daughter turned 6 months, I unsuprisingly had some questions for the Lord. What believe I got back built on what my mother got given, many years before, which was animal eat meat because they chose to. This is the sum of prayers and reflections over a long period. Short version "To have individual intelligent beings capable of the free will to be able to choose true love you have to have a free will system of strong selection pressures from the small biological level (viruses, bacteria) to the large biological level (animals being able to choose to eat meat and generally mistreat others) to the climatic and geological level (earthquakes and natural disasters)" Longer version To have evolutionary pressures for intelligent life- which is necessary for beings capable of choosing to love, the point of this existence- to evolve you need lower forms of life to be able to rapidly evolve and sometimes these will cause great suffering. The same pressures make diseases of all types a necessary part of this life. To have these pressures you also need to have strong climatic and geological systems too and hence 'natural disasters'. Animals chose to eat meat as part of this. Largely suffering due to the requirements of God's world (as per Pete Grieg's books on discussion of suffering) although other factors play a part such as God's war (again as per Pete Grieg) God HATES suffering but is with everyone of us through all time in our suffering as He loves us. Whether we know this depends on our relationship with him, largely our choice. A world with suffering is necessary to make us but we were not created to be apart from Him and with Him it suddenly becomes ok because he will help us through it, however bad it seems. Testimony from martyrs, people going into concentration camps, undergoing personal tragedies etc often reflect this. It was really what I needed so much so that if I could go back and not have had cancer there is no way I would have missed the opportunity it gave me to get much closer to the Lord. It was eventually diagnosed as Hodgkins lymphoma and I've been in remission over 4 years so I should have a lot more time to benefit from His grace going forwards.
@@frankwhelan1715 I answered to Garry not to you, so why do you feel the need to get involved with your atheist aggressive stand? I didn't claim to Garry that I have. So what do you get involved with this nonsense?! But if you want to go study ... here are some arguments scientist - gnostics, from Intelligent Design to certain religion - can find sense in: The Modal Ontological Argument, The Leibnizian Cosmological Argument, The Kalam Cosmological Argument, The Moral Argument, The Teleological Argument, The Argument from Beauty, The Problem of Evil, The Historicity of Jesus Christ, The Argument from Change, The Argument from Event Causality The Argument from Time and Contingency The Argument from Desire Etc. Please don't crap back with any new-atheism polemic alla Hitchens and Co, or worse, Dawkins blabber which is a shame for any real scientist. Please, just go, study seriously, and then you will have an argumentative stand for your belief system or lack thereof. Utube comments aren't the way to have fruitful discussions. Hope you agree and can find some positive in my comment. ;)
God allows suffering because he is not standing in judgement of sin today - he has provided the remedy for all sin by the sacrifice of His Son. All you have to do is accept it.
@@nicolamarter8587 It just would not be physically possible. All the elements of an online service have to be recorded separately then sent to one person who knits them together so that they can be available "live" from the time of the normal service. You would need the resources of a BBC outside broadcast unit to hop to and fro seamlessly, let alone the technical expertise.
And this is NOT streamed on the Sunday itself. People need to hear this on the SUNDAY as if we were going to church. You have all the facilities and resources probably more than most churches and you can't be bothered to create even ONE online service? Just laziness. All Souls have 4 every Sunday during this time.
ih8mcfly I’m not completely sure, but I think Christian orthodox would view the garden of Eden and the snake as allegory. Certainly that’s my take on it. However, I would suggest further exploration, and in orthodoxy you may find your answers. Best wishes craig
ih8mcfly it depends if we understand god as a Zeus like character who both tricks us and is tricked. A deity outside of ourselves on a cloud perhaps. Someone we have to love out of fear, which of course would undermine the true meaning of love. Maybe god is more closer to home, living within the temple of our experience. And may be god is like the father in the prodigal sons parable( allegory). Who is looking for our return to the internal kingdom the true home within us. I’m beginning to slowly experience a home coming off sorts in my life. I wish you all the best on your journey. Craig
Hi Nicky, I had to laugh when you said 'the Roman Catholic Church' who do things very differently to us. Yes we do but so many Roman Catholic Churches here in Australia (a bit more of the evangelical ones) have implemented the Alpha course. And thank God for that! Because of doing the course in 2018 I started tuning into your HTB sermons online after we finished the course. I see now God was preparing many of us for this moment in time. I live in the city far away from my family but I am comforted and grow in strength to know I can tune into HTB and your sermons even though it's across a few oceans here in Australia. Thank you for these messages. Well done!
Wow, l love your choir, beautiful!
Boy I love listening to you Nicky. That accent! even the way you say "Amen" at the end of each prayer. I just love it.
Hi Nicky - You have been a huge part of my daily Bible studies for the last couple of years. What a blessing you have been in my life. Thanks and God bless you - Keith
Nicky, Thank God AND YOU for being here with us right now ...in this broken world ❤️
Amen! Wonderful reminder and perspective. Suffering is a consequence of free choice, and yet through suffering we can see better choices. Blessings and safety for you all.
'Love is giving people freedom' Amen Nicky this was a great talk bless you and Pippa
Loved your acting as Michael in The Good Place.
It is a broken world. Let us use this crises and with the help of God we may use love to serve more of those that as you say are starving and suffering from being homeless.
brilliant Nicky, so good to think and actually meditate a little on suffering and what it means for all of us. Thank you for sharing this and for all you are doing :) I have watched this today, the Saturday after Good Friday, and reports are coming out of President Trump's "have a great Good Friday" greeting to the American people. This has been criticised, both for the context of Good Friday in and of itself, and also because of the intense suffering that is happening at this time. It made me think of how we might respond to Easter Sunday. With celebration? with cautious celebration? It occurred to me that the resurrection of Jesus deserves the greatest celebration, as His resurrection points to the life He bought for us in this life and the life that follows our earthly one. Whether we're experiencing suffering or blessing, or a combination of both. How we do this to a potentially watching world.....Easter Sunday is a world event......is something I'm less sure of, and I pray for you as you are someone charged with that responsibility and its execution. Ultimately, however, Jesus' resurrection has not felt as prophetic as it does now, in my life time. God bless you, and thank you again:)
Thank you Nicky!!! Needed this
This lockdown we are in is giving people time for thought. A break from the constant work work must pay the mortgage and meet all the brown envelopes pouring through the door.
Rather than go into fear about money and an uncertain future( which is outside of your control anyway)
I believe the way forward is to start each morning with a prayer of gratitude and speak out the things that God has blessed you with like your relationships
And be content in all things and God is mighty and if you fear God you won't fear anything in this world.
It's a great place to be as you were fearfully and wonderfully made.
God bless HTB and keep safe
Amen
Thanks
God is doing so much to help during this crisis.
NOT ! ( doing anything to help)
The choir is lovely and edifying 💖🇨🇦
..1Hop.. I altho I am not a believer, I do like a good choir, and I agree, that this is good...
Thanks for all the fantastic work. With regards to the questions over why coronavirus is "allowed" something I believe I've been given might be of interest.
Having been diagnosed with cancer 4 years ago, a short time after my daughter turned 6 months, I unsuprisingly had some questions for the Lord. What believe I got back built on what my mother got given, many years before, which was animal eat meat because they chose to. This is the sum of prayers and reflections over a long period.
Short version
"To have individual intelligent beings capable of the free will to be able to choose true love you have to have a free will system of strong selection pressures from the small biological level (viruses, bacteria) to the large biological level (animals being able to choose to eat meat and generally mistreat others) to the climatic and geological level (earthquakes and natural disasters)"
Longer version
To have evolutionary pressures for intelligent life- which is necessary for beings capable of choosing to love, the point of this existence- to evolve you need lower forms of life to be able to rapidly evolve and sometimes these will cause great suffering. The same pressures make diseases of all types a necessary part of this life. To have these pressures you also need to have strong climatic and geological systems too and hence 'natural disasters'. Animals chose to eat meat as part of this. Largely suffering due to the requirements of God's world (as per Pete Grieg's books on discussion of suffering) although other factors play a part such as God's war (again as per Pete Grieg)
God HATES suffering but is with everyone of us through all time in our suffering as He loves us. Whether we know this depends on our relationship with him, largely our choice. A world with suffering is necessary to make us but we were not created to be apart from Him and with Him it suddenly becomes ok because he will help us through it, however bad it seems. Testimony from martyrs, people going into concentration camps, undergoing personal tragedies etc often reflect this.
It was really what I needed so much so that if I could go back and not have had cancer there is no way I would have missed the opportunity it gave me to get much closer to the Lord. It was eventually diagnosed as Hodgkins lymphoma and I've been in remission over 4 years so I should have a lot more time to benefit from His grace going forwards.
Thank-you for such a well articulated message. Happy Easter to you and Pippa xx
God loves more profoundly than us and therefor suffers more profoundly than us.
..Paul.. there is no evidence of any of what you say.. I am quite sure that if there be a God, it cannot suffer, and neither can it love...
gary wersley ...See....Man with covid 19 was dying. Then God sent a cleaner......YT. ..🏴
@@GARYWERSLEY Ironic ... you have no evidence that a God cannot suffer neither love. ;)
@@geetjuhhisdebeste You have no evidence of a god.(evidence for the opposite)
@@frankwhelan1715 I answered to Garry not to you, so why do you feel the need to get involved with your atheist aggressive stand? I didn't claim to Garry that I have. So what do you get involved with this nonsense?!
But if you want to go study ... here are some arguments scientist - gnostics, from Intelligent Design to certain religion - can find sense in:
The Modal Ontological Argument, The Leibnizian Cosmological Argument, The Kalam Cosmological Argument, The Moral Argument, The Teleological Argument, The Argument from Beauty, The Problem of Evil, The Historicity of Jesus Christ,
The Argument from Change, The Argument from Event Causality
The Argument from Time and Contingency The Argument from Desire
Etc.
Please don't crap back with any new-atheism polemic alla Hitchens and Co, or worse, Dawkins blabber which is a shame for any real scientist.
Please, just go, study seriously, and then you will have an argumentative stand for your belief system or lack thereof.
Utube comments aren't the way to have fruitful discussions. Hope you agree and can find some positive in my comment. ;)
Wonderful. God is good. He can take this virus and use it for GOOD.
..bethan.. surely God created this virus? if he wanted to do good, why create such a virus?
@@GARYWERSLEY The lockdown is very good for animals nature, air and rivers became clean
Thanks !
...”Unless you repent things could get worse”.....Unless ye repent ye shall all likewise perish....Luke 13 :1-5. KJV.
The bible is primitive nonsense. Not the word of any god.
God allows suffering because he is not standing in judgement of sin today - he has provided the remedy for all sin by the sacrifice of His Son. All you have to do is accept it.
I'm disappointed you don't even have live services...
I was hoping for this too.
@@storytimewithcharis Live Services are not permitted. Perhaps you didn't know that.
@@maureenbridge5970 I think they meant live online, not a live service that people can physically attend. 🙂
@@nicolamarter8587 It just would not be physically possible. All the elements of an online service have to be recorded separately then sent to one person who knits them together so that they can be available "live" from the time of the normal service. You would need the resources of a BBC outside broadcast unit to hop to and fro seamlessly, let alone the technical expertise.
@@maureenbridge5970 ah I think what we meant was precorded but then streamed on TH-cam at the usual service times. All other churches were doing this.
And this is NOT streamed on the Sunday itself. People need to hear this on the SUNDAY as if we were going to church. You have all the facilities and resources probably more than most churches and you can't be bothered to create even ONE online service? Just laziness. All Souls have 4 every Sunday during this time.
Someone , (even a god ), dying
temporarily,
(def,for a limited period of time ,not permanently)
doesn't solve any problems.
It seems God finally listened to the screams of abused, killed nimals trees, plants nature, Earth.
Hi, if God is everywhere and so powerful. How did he get outsmart by a snake and ruined his original plan?
ih8mcfly the Christian orthodox I believe ,say Gods original plan was Jesus.
Craig so there was no snake, or Adam and Eve from Christian orthodox?
ih8mcfly I’m not completely sure, but I think Christian orthodox would view the garden of Eden and the snake as allegory. Certainly that’s my take on it. However, I would suggest further exploration, and in orthodoxy you may find your answers. Best wishes craig
Craig even if it’s allegory , it’s still around god being tricked ?
ih8mcfly it depends if we understand god as a Zeus like character who both tricks us and is tricked. A deity outside of ourselves on a cloud perhaps. Someone we have to love out of fear, which of course would undermine the true meaning of love. Maybe god is more closer to home, living within the temple of our experience. And may be god is like the father in the prodigal sons parable( allegory). Who is looking for our return to the internal kingdom the true home within us. I’m beginning to slowly experience a home coming off sorts in my life. I wish you all the best on your journey. Craig
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Why does god allow this to happen? Because there isn;t any god. Seems pretty obvious when you think about it.
I know where he is! He s a figment of your imagination.