GGG: "The next RTS game will fail because of lacking user-generated content" GGG: "To make my point even harder, I teamed up with a bunch of modders to make user-generated content in SC2 even easier and more user-friendly!"
@@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan it's because the manager is not a gamer, he/she doesn't give a fuck about her/his team doing, it's money grabbing for them, it is even so common now the managers don't play their owe game
@@hailuong9295 The guy who led the development of New World had never worked on a video game before, and allegedly didn't even play them. And it showed. You'd think Amazon would hire better people with their money, but all the money in the world still doesn't replace good old nepotism and cronyism. >__>
It's fun enugh, how passion can make beuatiful things, you got a game where the viewer is not high, created your base, evolved the game for you to continue to play, increased ( i hope ) your fan base, gave everything back to us, honnestly, I hope THE BEST for you Grant! Thank you and modders to handle campaign and custom games live alone!
I loved to watch and had a burst of enormous fun watching mindhawk's gauntlet! But man, keep up the amazing content! Who knows, maybe i take the custom campaigns for a spin aswell. Thanks for sharing the experience with the community GGG!
I love custom content but hate that SC2 "interface" it's such a rotten way to find great content. Sometimes all one can do is just go looking for something, so thank you for this, Grant
Can you do a tutorial on how to modify blizzard maps and pack them into sc2 custom campaign manager? I wanna make Kerrigan's Challenge gauntlet(still WOL) bc I got so much ideas
Hey Grant! I'm very curious and probably not the only one, but how did you make all of this? I would really like to know if you (or someone) could explain the programming process!
Do you think a custom campaign where Di-Star plays as the AI would be doable? Maybe the AI wouldn't be able to understand the campaign well enough to play it, not sure tho.
And here I thought I would have nothing to look forward to after exams Also can you play the challenge gauntlet on lower difficulties? Cause I rly want to try those challenges but I am 100% not good enough to not feel like I am hitting my head against a wall.
I believe Grant has said in the past that the Nightmare Edition mod can be run on lower difficulties to get the unit/balance changes, but with normal Starcraft difficulty scaling. I don’t think it’s balance tested tho, so play at your own risk haha
With respect to mod makers, can there be any 'full custom' campaigns? I mean, these are gorgeous, but that's exact same set of missions blizzard made decade ago. Any expectation when custom missions come to play? I mean. Story. Maps. Units. Something.
It's still shocking that something like that was found after like 10 years of SC2 being a thing. Feels kind of like when a new stat is found in some speedruns of classic, but extremely popular games.
Should i be grateful that i have seen all the vod/vid to understand the game and its mods without even playing it, or should i be sad about the fact that there will be no time for me to play this incredible edition of the game
SC2 has always seemed hostile to custom campaigns. The entire Arcade seemed to only have been set up for single map mods, probably to try and encourage more custom games like tower defence and DotA, but as someone who loved campaigns like Antioch Chronicles and Legacy of the Confederation, and even bought Insurrection and Retribution, all the hoops to jump through for mulitmap campaigns in SC2 has always been incredibly frustrating.
@@mrravinraven Yah custom campaigns were basically as easy to use as this campaign manager, just drag and drop the file. Plus you could have a proper mission select with background art and interludes that were just like the official Warcraft 3 campaign. And of course, what you did in one mission carried over to the next mission to make bonus objectives more worth it and have a proper sense of progression. This all makes the fact that Starcraft 2 only properly had custom campaigns so much later on disappointing, especially when you consider how limited they still are. Either Blizzard didn’t see or didn’t care about user generated single player campaigns because they could have and should have been so much more
The funny thing is that SCBW's map editor was a whole lot more friendly to use than Galaxy Editor. The kicker? 90% of the things you do on the Galaxy Editor could be done on the SCBW Map Editor. Hell, you could even remake the entire trilogy campaign into SCBW.
SC2 arcade is trash, editor is way too hard to use to it cant catch up to what people do and still do in Warcraft. Glad to see though that Stormgate will solve this and combine the best :)
As someone who has been working on his own campaign, I can confirm its an insane amount of work. You can actually see my campaign at 00:23 The 3 missions with the marine icon xd
I had a lot of custom campaigns in SC1 and was very interested in continuing when SC2 came out, but the sheer complexity of the map editor scared me away. Seeing this makes me happy. I unfortunately don't have the time or will to get back into Starcraft campaign-making, but I hope it inspires others. Once idea I had, I remember when I played Nova Covert Ops that her system for upgrades seemed like it would make more sense for Raynor - allow his units to have up to two upgrades assigned to them, have upgrades interchangeable between units, but you only get one module when you get a new unit and Raynor has to pay to buy more modules, and in addition to other upgrades the lab upgrades and branching missions can give unique, extra-powerful modules. Like if you only get one Cellular Reactor upgrade, which unit will you give it to? If the Marauder can only use two of Stimpacks, Concussive Shells, and Kinetic Foam, which two will you take? I wonder if anyone will do something like that. I've seen the three base campaigns mixed up, but I could also see it being done with Covert Ops. Kerrigan can have modules that turn her different Zerg units into different strains or give them different upgrades, and Artanis of course could have modules that make the base Protoss units into one of the tribe-specific campaign variants.
Future RTS’s should include built-in custom campaign features. Either a way to mod the og campaign(s) or a basic prebuild for missions, cutscenes, and upgrade select screens. Little Big Planet 2 was like this. You could designate levels as missions or cutscenes then chain them together with portals which you could activate automatically. People made entire movies.
I tried out the mod manager for real scale Heart of the Swarm. It works and is easy to use. If I'm done using mods and want to play the regular campaign I can just switch it off. It's an absolute win.
I find it absolutely amazing what you and all the modders do. Keeping the PVE content in SC2 interesting and fresh and dedicating so much time and effort into making all these amazing custom campaigns and mods.
Uh, fascinating. It won't help fully custom campaigns however, correct ? By that I mean campaigns that aren't modifications or iterations of the official campaigns. Or can you effectively hijack the normal campaign system for a fully custom thing, with original missions, briefings, ect ?
Probably best to ask on the Discord. I know that for some of the campaigns things were changed on the Hyperion/Leviathan but I don't know the extend to which this is possible.
I have been doing my own let's play of nightmare difficulty hear on youtube and I have to say its super fun thanks for making this possible to you grant and all the mod makers as well.
It's actually pretty amazing how a group of talented and dedicated fans can uplift a virtually abandoned project and DRASTICALLY prolong its life (like do you know there is an anime mod for Descent Freespace: The great war?) Cheers, Grant
its very rare that i live a comment on any video but i guess you are my favorite channel among 338 you are doing the best content possible and you are even making moving the content of the game
GGG just made my day easier. Thanks! Not only will this bump my playtime, it'll qllow me to make eight custom mapsets instead of one massive campaign for my brother! So much effort and time saved! GGG is a lifesaver! The Vesharim's Return should be done in another couple months for my brother to test, then after its deemed suitable i will send it to you GGG
So something pretty cool about the heart of the swarm randomizer is that on the second mission I got the WOL version of Kerrigan and insta-killed the archangel.
Does this system also support fully custom campaigns with their own stories, or is this purely for modding the base campaigns? Because while it is really cool and I love that you guys made this for others to use, it's not really relevant to my maps if it doesn't.
You can probably tweak it a bit? I know that must stuff inside the campaign stuff like the character and object models for pretty much everything on the Hyperion/Leviathan can be changed. I believe the reason was that those screens are actually all maps themselves or something? Honestly, I'm not too sure, but somebody on the discord can probably help you out. In that vein you could probably just remap the mission select onto the various planets so that by choosing a particular planet you get sent to one of your own maps or adjust the way merc upgrades work. I know that for HotS one of the mods added a third Kerrigan level upgrade bar. I think. Not sure if you can redo the entire screens while retaining the functionality but maybe you can actually customize the whole thing. Again, I recommend asking on the Discord.
As Grant said, it was done to be able to use the already existing overlay of the campaigns so you only have to change the maps itself. So if you want to do different than the 4 given campaigns you kind of can't really use it since you probably also would want a different overlay, so you can't really use it. Though it might be possible to change the overlay in a way that it fits your own campaign, though no idea how much work that would be. Edit: Maybe just ask Grant or Mindhawk directly?
I think they sort of can. Bassically, you can redo any and all of the maps, triggers, voicelines, and popups. However, i belive you are limited to how the base campaigns planets and menus are setup. You may be able to feck around with unlock triggers to create a more linear story path, or less linear if you want, but adding new planets may be a nono. And whilst you can change any and all of the units and upgrades in the campaign, you may be limited to how the base campaign sets up its units and upgrades. But, starcraft is suprisingly flexible, so you may somewhat easily be able to make all sorts of bizzare changes, and/or add in a million extra planets.
You know what I love to have the most regarding the simple campaigns... double the unit supply, more mineral incomes, faster access to technology (to diversify the way you play the campaign) and mostly a zoom out camera to see big armies of zergs rolling around. This things sound simple enough on paper yet none of them I seen to come to life other than spectator mode and arcade. The Real Size Mode shouldn't be that broke is you ask me and if so it could actually improve the experience for low tier units been just a bit smaller to avoid clumping on each other.
Two things. 1. Are you sure this mod manager won't piss off Warden? 2. I really wish you would expand your focus beyond just brutal difficulty. Like frankly, watching you suffer through these campaigns is enjoyable but... I would never in a million years want to deal with many of the missions myself. They just don't look fun for me, and this is as someone who replays the Starcraft and Starcraft 2 campaigns practically monthly because he just can't get enough Starcraft.
Blizzard: "Hey, lets drop basically all meaningful support and development for SC2, OH AND we can fuck the 20 years cultivated WC3 community by releasing a cash grab remaster." SC2 Modders: "I still love this game so much gonna make some mods for it. Fuck I just spent two years making this, and no one can find it. Blizzard, can we get this fixed? Blizzard: *gives it's communities as little concern as they do for sexual harassment in the workplace* GiantGrantGames: Thanos Voice - "Fine, I'll do it myself."
I'm hoping to hear about the cross-faction campaigns getting added at some point, to this wonderful project (HotS Terran, Kerrigan Covert Ops, WoL Protos, etc)
Can attest that nightmare edition is loads of fun. While I’m not interested in real scale, I still appreciate the spectacle. Gauntlet will have to be next for me! Side note: if someone made a version of HoTS that was good, I would love that.
Dude, this is so cool. Gotta say, you're the main reason I started playing SC2 again. While I'm not very good, I have had fun playing through a variety of things on the arcade - all thanks to you. Speaking of the Arcade, do you have any experience with the auto-chess battler "Direct Strike" by Tya? I'm keen to hear if you have any tips and tricks, as sometimes I feel totally overwhelmed once armies start getting massive.
This hard mode of camping sounds like heaven. I loath the "hard" difficulty that just makes some numbers go up when it comes to HP and DMG and call it a day. True difficulty can also be achieved by subtle tweak to ai, enemies placement, level design and many more.
I've been using the SC2 editor to alter both Nightmare & Real Scale. I do things like giving the Predator the jump ability to run alongside Reapers. Both mods are excellent but so far the hardest thing by far is the clunky UI and inefficient coding behind the SC2 Editor. The Duplication feature rarely preserves the references, leading to glitches in game and needing to do most of it manually.
I watched your videos about playing campaign with no unit deaths and etcetera. It was nice to see it. Would you please play custom campaign that is WOL HOTS LOTV that uses different races. For each of them, play as no deaths, only first unit of each production buildings (marine, hellion, viking,)(zealot, immortal, phoenix)(zergling, not sure the others) no build. For each objective, I would add or change: no deaths: unit created with timed life or suicide ability are not counted as deaths. only first unit of each production buildings: all base defenses OK, units with no basic attack or ability damage OK (like medic, taldarine sentry, viper, etc), units already created for campagin OK to use. no build: When players are allowed to build units and the combat unit total supply usage is below 20, make unit until 20 and then no more building allowed.
A golden age of custom campaigns would be classic original campaigns coming out. Not tweaks of the original blizzard campaigns. Though I appreciate that doing the thing thats your job is much easier now.
I do have one question regarding this new method ... will it enable new campaigns, or just reskins/mods of Blizzard's campaigns? Because while I love the Real Scale project and would love to see the reversal and race swap campaigns migrate into this system, I'm also excited to see interesting new stories without the clunky UI of Blizzard's custom campaigns (for instance, is anyone going to try to tell the story of Niadra?). And modders being able to add between-map cutscenes, conversations, and environments would be so amazing.
The CCM is such a cool thing. I played most of the nightmare version and gauntlet challenge and it is so much fun. I just wish for nightmare+ edition, which would be even little bit harder :P
When is UED AI coming back :( ? I was really happy to see sc1 content. Also Grant, whatever you do, I will support you. It's the voice, it hard carries all your content, which Is why I was also onboard for RTS reviews.
Love these. But there's a question. Did someone ever make a custom campaign where you can play as one of the coop heroes? I'd love to play campaign with stukov and his buildings instead of kerrigan. It would be pretty unbalanced, but should be fun
I need a new computer if I'm gonna do heart of the swarm real scale. I get an army of banelings with a few zerglings and kerrigan and my laptop can barely handle it. Two full control groups of 500 plus an extra almost 350? I like being able to play, thank you.
SC BW custom campaigns are still being made (It's ironically easier to make them for BW than BW remastered) aswell btw and somehow SC BW has a system that's far easier to use for MOST custom campaigns and tha;ts the good ol fashioned drag and drop files
Also, just asking if custom campaigns works for other languages? Cause on my side nightmare difficulty seems not appeared. But I didn't check it on English yet.
Very cool. I'd love to see some summary videos on your main channel for some of the custom campaigns you've played. I've watched a decent amount of some of the various campaign mods you've played through on the 2nd channel. Some 30min+ highlight videos would be nice to see for the ones I haven't had the time to see, similar to the deathless and no build videos you have on the main channel.
Hey can someone design a mono battle but it's the campaign and you pick a different unit per map? This is just a quality of life mod idea for people who want zergling/marine/stalker only Oh and is Grant ever gonna try extermination edition for LotV?
Dude, the devil's playground is unbeatable... it's not the same version as the one you were playing a few months ago. So much pressure and there's always a creep tumor and a handful of zerglings and hydralisks at the mineral nodes after every lava wave... can't even go anywhere far without having to come back and defend jesus!
OMG thanks for the now reasonable way for me to play modded SCII games extending the play life of this great game, now all l have to do is find the time to get them and play them ;-( And it is a delight to support you in what way l can giving your passion for supporting the fans of StarCraft and providing such great content all this time, keep up the good work.
I'm glad that the time it takes to create custom campaigns have been lowered, but in the end it seems like most of these mods are rather shallow in its customization. Tweaking stats and increasing/decreasing scale only does so much to breathe new life into old campaigns. What made each new expansion campaign new and refreshing was the new story, missions, and for me most importantly the army customization. Until we get that I can't confidently say that it's the golden age of SC2 custom campaign.
I have no clue about SC2 modding, but i heard someone in the comments of one of the videos say that importing stuff from Heroes of the Storm is possible. If that is true it would be really cool to have the Infested Tychus skin for your HotS Randomizer hero unit. Though i cant help but feel that the easy to import thing is just made up.
GGG: "The next RTS game will fail because of lacking user-generated content"
GGG: "To make my point even harder, I teamed up with a bunch of modders to make user-generated content in SC2 even easier and more user-friendly!"
I honestly don't understand why a company hasn't just copied the SC or C&C formula.
@@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan some have they just failed
@@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan it's because the manager is not a gamer, he/she doesn't give a fuck about her/his team doing, it's money grabbing for them, it is even so common now the managers don't play their owe game
@@hailuong9295 The guy who led the development of New World had never worked on a video game before, and allegedly didn't even play them.
And it showed. You'd think Amazon would hire better people with their money, but all the money in the world still doesn't replace good old nepotism and cronyism. >__>
My man Grand making StarCraft 2 the best RTS for 20 more years
Imagine if blizzard was still good, damn
I hope there are plans for Nightmare HotS and LotV, I would be very excited to play through all 3 campaigns on a higher difficulty than brutal!
Same especially HOTS.
It's fun enugh, how passion can make beuatiful things, you got a game where the viewer is not high, created your base, evolved the game for you to continue to play, increased ( i hope ) your fan base, gave everything back to us, honnestly, I hope THE BEST for you Grant! Thank you and modders to handle campaign and custom games live alone!
I loved to watch and had a burst of enormous fun watching mindhawk's gauntlet! But man, keep up the amazing content! Who knows, maybe i take the custom campaigns for a spin aswell. Thanks for sharing the experience with the community GGG!
Great work! Work like this really helps keep games alive! The community for SC2 is crazy :D
As soon as I saw the challenge gauntlet mentioned I thought to myself "when does grant bring up the zeratul spam"
yeaaaaaah wacraft 2 ost !
Thx Grant and all of the modders to help SC2 campaign survive this well
this mod tool is one of the greatest things ever produced
dang he made me watch a 10 minute advertisement without me realising it
While very cool, this is kinda limited by being restricted to alterations to main campigns instead of allowing fully custom ones.
This is amazing, I love your work. Do you know if Synergy's campaigns might be making their way on to this system or not?
I love custom content but hate that SC2 "interface" it's such a rotten way to find great content. Sometimes all one can do is just go looking for something, so thank you for this, Grant
Just a heads up, the thumbnail is a bit messy and hard to 'digest'. Might want to change it later on
Looked clear enough to me, but I knew the context.
Can you do a tutorial on how to modify blizzard maps and pack them into sc2 custom campaign manager? I wanna make Kerrigan's Challenge gauntlet(still WOL) bc I got so much ideas
Hey Grant! I'm very curious and probably not the only one, but how did you make all of this? I would really like to know if you (or someone) could explain the programming process!
Do you think a custom campaign where Di-Star plays as the AI would be doable? Maybe the AI wouldn't be able to understand the campaign well enough to play it, not sure tho.
And here I thought I would have nothing to look forward to after exams
Also can you play the challenge gauntlet on lower difficulties? Cause I rly want to try those challenges but I am 100% not good enough to not feel like I am hitting my head against a wall.
You can play the challenge gauntlet or nightmare mode changes on lower difficulties, but they haven't been play tested for balance besides brutal.
@@toddclawson2840 thank you
Hmm, can you make a nightmare edition, but with a lower difficulty? You know… for normal people who can’t handle brutal, but still want more fun? ;)
I believe Grant has said in the past that the Nightmare Edition mod can be run on lower difficulties to get the unit/balance changes, but with normal Starcraft difficulty scaling. I don’t think it’s balance tested tho, so play at your own risk haha
Nightmare edition works 95% fine on lower difficulties.
WAIT! Just wait the fk up! What happened to Actiblizzard's "What you make is ours, not yours!" policy?!
so unless ive gone insane you had a 7 player campaign uploaded
what happened to that?
People didn’t like it and kept badgering grant in his DMs about it, so he took it down
Blizzard owes you a debt they can never repay.
Maybe if they fixed reforged
Damn. Blizzard announced an hour ago that they are shutting down all Arcade servers.
Not really.
With respect to mod makers, can there be any 'full custom' campaigns? I mean, these are gorgeous, but that's exact same set of missions blizzard made decade ago. Any expectation when custom missions come to play? I mean. Story. Maps. Units. Something.
There are a lot of full custom campaigns like you’re describing, but they don’t work with the CCM. They usually have their own launchers
Let us have a moment of silence for those modder who’s time has been lost prior to his innovation.
his sacrifice will be remember
Who is time? Who has time?
they die in the dark so we can live in the light.
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Their sacrifices are what got us this far. They are the untold heroes of the dark age we needed to traverse to reach this point.
It's still shocking that something like that was found after like 10 years of SC2 being a thing. Feels kind of like when a new stat is found in some speedruns of classic, but extremely popular games.
Thats called "no gaems"
Modders are always pushing the limitations of the games they play. Look at the Skyrim modding scene, they're still discovering new stuff.
"found"? From what I understood, they developed a new tool.
@@StormflameMW They made the tool in response to finding this new ability to mod the campaign.
Reminds me of all the crazy stuff Thief modders have pulled off. Now that's a real classic.
But most importantly, Rames Jaynor.
And his evil twin James raynor
Remember kids: friends let friends massacre civillians
He's the nam who's gonna sill Karah Serrigan
i read "James Raynor" and genuinely thought it was the misspelled version
i cannot read the name correctly ever again
rames jaynor my beloved
Remember, cowboy: Friends help friends commit war crimes.
Should i be grateful that i have seen all the vod/vid to understand the game and its mods without even playing it, or should i be sad about the fact that there will be no time for me to play this incredible edition of the game
Porque no los dos?
Yeah both seems acceptable
Both
I don't speak spanish but I still understood what that comment said because I was thinking the same thing
GGG: "I've run out of things to do in SC2."
Also GGG: "Guess I'll motivate people to create new content."
SC2 has always seemed hostile to custom campaigns. The entire Arcade seemed to only have been set up for single map mods, probably to try and encourage more custom games like tower defence and DotA, but as someone who loved campaigns like Antioch Chronicles and Legacy of the Confederation, and even bought Insurrection and Retribution, all the hoops to jump through for mulitmap campaigns in SC2 has always been incredibly frustrating.
And they got it right in War Craft 3's Frozen Throne expansion, too
@@mrravinraven Yah custom campaigns were basically as easy to use as this campaign manager, just drag and drop the file. Plus you could have a proper mission select with background art and interludes that were just like the official Warcraft 3 campaign. And of course, what you did in one mission carried over to the next mission to make bonus objectives more worth it and have a proper sense of progression.
This all makes the fact that Starcraft 2 only properly had custom campaigns so much later on disappointing, especially when you consider how limited they still are. Either Blizzard didn’t see or didn’t care about user generated single player campaigns because they could have and should have been so much more
The funny thing is that SCBW's map editor was a whole lot more friendly to use than Galaxy Editor.
The kicker? 90% of the things you do on the Galaxy Editor could be done on the SCBW Map Editor. Hell, you could even remake the entire trilogy campaign into SCBW.
SC2 arcade is trash, editor is way too hard to use to it cant catch up to what people do and still do in Warcraft. Glad to see though that Stormgate will solve this and combine the best :)
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi😅
LotT being the epiphany of modding difficulties is insanely correct
LotT took me 2 1/2 years to make, hopefully this can help others in the future
Holy fu-
I guess that explains why it's so polished
Quick question, what does "LotT" mean?
@@JWQweqOPDH i think its legacy of the terran aka terran lotv I may be wrong tho
@@JWQweqOPDH Legacy of the Tal'darim.
@@JWQweqOPDH Legacy of the Tal’darim. LotV w/ an entire host of Tal’darim units
As someone who has been working on his own campaign, I can confirm its an insane amount of work. You can actually see my campaign at 00:23
The 3 missions with the marine icon xd
you are a legend
I had a lot of custom campaigns in SC1 and was very interested in continuing when SC2 came out, but the sheer complexity of the map editor scared me away. Seeing this makes me happy. I unfortunately don't have the time or will to get back into Starcraft campaign-making, but I hope it inspires others. Once idea I had, I remember when I played Nova Covert Ops that her system for upgrades seemed like it would make more sense for Raynor - allow his units to have up to two upgrades assigned to them, have upgrades interchangeable between units, but you only get one module when you get a new unit and Raynor has to pay to buy more modules, and in addition to other upgrades the lab upgrades and branching missions can give unique, extra-powerful modules. Like if you only get one Cellular Reactor upgrade, which unit will you give it to? If the Marauder can only use two of Stimpacks, Concussive Shells, and Kinetic Foam, which two will you take?
I wonder if anyone will do something like that. I've seen the three base campaigns mixed up, but I could also see it being done with Covert Ops. Kerrigan can have modules that turn her different Zerg units into different strains or give them different upgrades, and Artanis of course could have modules that make the base Protoss units into one of the tribe-specific campaign variants.
Future RTS’s should include built-in custom campaign features. Either a way to mod the og campaign(s) or a basic prebuild for missions, cutscenes, and upgrade select screens.
Little Big Planet 2 was like this. You could designate levels as missions or cutscenes then chain them together with portals which you could activate automatically. People made entire movies.
I tried out the mod manager for real scale Heart of the Swarm. It works and is easy to use. If I'm done using mods and want to play the regular campaign I can just switch it off. It's an absolute win.
I find it absolutely amazing what you and all the modders do. Keeping the PVE content in SC2 interesting and fresh and dedicating so much time and effort into making all these amazing custom campaigns and mods.
Uh, fascinating. It won't help fully custom campaigns however, correct ? By that I mean campaigns that aren't modifications or iterations of the official campaigns. Or can you effectively hijack the normal campaign system for a fully custom thing, with original missions, briefings, ect ?
Probably best to ask on the Discord. I know that for some of the campaigns things were changed on the Hyperion/Leviathan but I don't know the extend to which this is possible.
It’s possible, but it’s a ton of work to do so and currently no one has done it.
Ty for making me remember the zeratul mision, going to rewatch it 10 times again. Brb
Hey Giant Grant Games. Can you do series about SC 1 Deathless run both on the original story and the Broodwar? It would be great if you do
Unfortunately I think with the clunky sc1 unit pathing there would be a lot of frustration.
at this point, Blizzard should just hire these people and give them official license to create these campaigns and tools!
I have been doing my own let's play of nightmare difficulty hear on youtube and I have to say its super fun thanks for making this possible to you grant and all the mod makers as well.
Eiiii, messed up sleep schedule!
It's actually pretty amazing how a group of talented and dedicated fans can uplift a virtually abandoned project and DRASTICALLY prolong its life (like do you know there is an anime mod for Descent Freespace: The great war?) Cheers, Grant
its very rare that i live a comment on any video but i guess you are my favorite channel among 338 you are doing the best content possible and you are even making moving the content of the game
GGG just made my day easier. Thanks! Not only will this bump my playtime, it'll qllow me to make eight custom mapsets instead of one massive campaign for my brother! So much effort and time saved! GGG is a lifesaver! The Vesharim's Return should be done in another couple months for my brother to test, then after its deemed suitable i will send it to you GGG
So something pretty cool about the heart of the swarm randomizer is that on the second mission I got the WOL version of Kerrigan and insta-killed the archangel.
Does this system also support fully custom campaigns with their own stories, or is this purely for modding the base campaigns? Because while it is really cool and I love that you guys made this for others to use, it's not really relevant to my maps if it doesn't.
You can probably tweak it a bit?
I know that must stuff inside the campaign stuff like the character and object models for pretty much everything on the Hyperion/Leviathan can be changed. I believe the reason was that those screens are actually all maps themselves or something? Honestly, I'm not too sure, but somebody on the discord can probably help you out.
In that vein you could probably just remap the mission select onto the various planets so that by choosing a particular planet you get sent to one of your own maps or adjust the way merc upgrades work. I know that for HotS one of the mods added a third Kerrigan level upgrade bar. I think.
Not sure if you can redo the entire screens while retaining the functionality but maybe you can actually customize the whole thing. Again, I recommend asking on the Discord.
As Grant said, it was done to be able to use the already existing overlay of the campaigns so you only have to change the maps itself. So if you want to do different than the 4 given campaigns you kind of can't really use it since you probably also would want a different overlay, so you can't really use it. Though it might be possible to change the overlay in a way that it fits your own campaign, though no idea how much work that would be.
Edit: Maybe just ask Grant or Mindhawk directly?
I think they sort of can.
Bassically, you can redo any and all of the maps, triggers, voicelines, and popups. However, i belive you are limited to how the base campaigns planets and menus are setup. You may be able to feck around with unlock triggers to create a more linear story path, or less linear if you want, but adding new planets may be a nono. And whilst you can change any and all of the units and upgrades in the campaign, you may be limited to how the base campaign sets up its units and upgrades.
But, starcraft is suprisingly flexible, so you may somewhat easily be able to make all sorts of bizzare changes, and/or add in a million extra planets.
It’s possible to change everything, but it’s a lot of work to do so
Awesome stuff so would it now be possible to make a Full Coop Campaign?
You know what I love to have the most regarding the simple campaigns...
double the unit supply, more mineral incomes, faster access to technology (to diversify the way you play the campaign) and mostly a zoom out camera to see big armies of zergs rolling around.
This things sound simple enough on paper yet none of them I seen to come to life other than spectator mode and arcade.
The Real Size Mode shouldn't be that broke is you ask me and if so it could actually improve the experience for low tier units been just a bit smaller to avoid clumping on each other.
now I just have a question...how do I make a custom campegin of my own? :
Two things.
1. Are you sure this mod manager won't piss off Warden?
2. I really wish you would expand your focus beyond just brutal difficulty. Like frankly, watching you suffer through these campaigns is enjoyable but... I would never in a million years want to deal with many of the missions myself. They just don't look fun for me, and this is as someone who replays the Starcraft and Starcraft 2 campaigns practically monthly because he just can't get enough Starcraft.
Thank you so much for your efforts and enthusiasm in making this possible.
Blizzard: "Hey, lets drop basically all meaningful support and development for SC2, OH AND we can fuck the 20 years cultivated WC3 community by releasing a cash grab remaster."
SC2 Modders: "I still love this game so much gonna make some mods for it. Fuck I just spent two years making this, and no one can find it. Blizzard, can we get this fixed?
Blizzard: *gives it's communities as little concern as they do for sexual harassment in the workplace*
GiantGrantGames: Thanos Voice - "Fine, I'll do it myself."
This is something that SC2 has reached.
It feels like it's reached a whole new era.
so the custom campaign manager can allow us to play these amazing mods without buying the campaign?
sorry i feel dumb:(
Shame in my experience; there's a wall of gatekeeping in the modding community and it's a very 'go learn it yourself or get banned'
So what you are saying is: Now we can ALL have ourself a quillbunker.
I'm hoping to hear about the cross-faction campaigns getting added at some point, to this wonderful project (HotS Terran, Kerrigan Covert Ops, WoL Protos, etc)
i just dont understand why the hell did not blizzard added support for custom campaign as they did for warcraft3
Not sure if your a fan of Command and Conquer. But it would be cool to see the campaigns done in unique ways.
Dumb question. I need to own Hots and Lotv to play the mods there right?
Can this work with co-op? I had tons of fun with the custom co-op campaigns
i see real scale is the best , but need to re consider the scale to somehow fit the screen at least :D
Can't wait until Blizzard tries to give you a cease and desist because you did what their job should have been years ago.
But first they'll need other fans to act as their lawyers and send the c&d!
Is it weird if I feel like I'd rather make my own custom campaigns? Just need those editors in a handy and user friendly giantgrantgames version too.
Do it!
Have you played Zeralans campaign trilogy or Invicta campaign?
Thé campaign is single player
Can attest that nightmare edition is loads of fun. While I’m not interested in real scale, I still appreciate the spectacle. Gauntlet will have to be next for me!
Side note: if someone made a version of HoTS that was good, I would love that.
Big thanks to everyone making mods for SC2 and keeping the game alive, I love hitting up all the custom campaigns
Until Blizzard brings back the simplicity of the SCBW editor, there will never be a golden age of sc2 custom campaigns.
Dude, this is so cool.
Gotta say, you're the main reason I started playing SC2 again. While I'm not very good, I have had fun playing through a variety of things on the arcade - all thanks to you.
Speaking of the Arcade, do you have any experience with the auto-chess battler "Direct Strike" by Tya? I'm keen to hear if you have any tips and tricks, as sometimes I feel totally overwhelmed once armies start getting massive.
Joining doxxcord
Gonna be a hard pass
What about getting other mods on there that you guys didn't make such as Mass Recall and Wrath of the Taldarim?
im seriously glad grant and other modder make the game something we can continue to play and enjoy espeacially for us that is non pvp player
I just want the good old "The Shifters" Campaign for SC2...
This hard mode of camping sounds like heaven. I loath the "hard" difficulty that just makes some numbers go up when it comes to HP and DMG and call it a day. True difficulty can also be achieved by subtle tweak to ai, enemies placement, level design and many more.
I've been using the SC2 editor to alter both Nightmare & Real Scale. I do things like giving the Predator the jump ability to run alongside Reapers. Both mods are excellent but so far the hardest thing by far is the clunky UI and inefficient coding behind the SC2 Editor. The Duplication feature rarely preserves the references, leading to glitches in game and needing to do most of it manually.
Really thankful for modder's resources like this that enrich the modding community so much! Your channel really reignited my love for RTS!
10 years of blizzard owning sc2... and failing.
Giant grant games gets ticked off? Full fix
I watched your videos about playing campaign with no unit deaths and etcetera. It was nice to see it.
Would you please play custom campaign that is WOL HOTS LOTV that uses different races.
For each of them, play as no deaths, only first unit of each production buildings (marine, hellion, viking,)(zealot, immortal, phoenix)(zergling, not sure the others) no build.
For each objective, I would add or change:
no deaths: unit created with timed life or suicide ability are not counted as deaths.
only first unit of each production buildings: all base defenses OK, units with no basic attack or ability damage OK (like medic, taldarine sentry, viper, etc), units already created for campagin OK to use.
no build: When players are allowed to build units and the combat unit total supply usage is below 20, make unit until 20 and then no more building allowed.
A golden age of custom campaigns would be classic original campaigns coming out. Not tweaks of the original blizzard campaigns. Though I appreciate that doing the thing thats your job is much easier now.
You can play the old SC campaigns in the SC2 arcade right now
@@phoenixcraft9940 I meant original as is a fully independent story. Not original is in the first game.
@@Cryten0 Oh, there most certainly are. In fact, there's a large amount of the campaign section taken up by unique stories.
I do have one question regarding this new method ... will it enable new campaigns, or just reskins/mods of Blizzard's campaigns? Because while I love the Real Scale project and would love to see the reversal and race swap campaigns migrate into this system, I'm also excited to see interesting new stories without the clunky UI of Blizzard's custom campaigns (for instance, is anyone going to try to tell the story of Niadra?). And modders being able to add between-map cutscenes, conversations, and environments would be so amazing.
I really want to see what they do with nightmare-mode heart of the swarm. Like, hybrid on the last mission or something?
The CCM is such a cool thing. I played most of the nightmare version and gauntlet challenge and it is so much fun. I just wish for nightmare+ edition, which would be even little bit harder :P
When is UED AI coming back :( ? I was really happy to see sc1 content.
Also Grant, whatever you do, I will support you. It's the voice, it hard carries all your content, which Is why I was also onboard for RTS reviews.
you are a god for SC2. Realy and i mean it ! You are the one who gave me back this burning passion for the game. Thank you from the bottom of my heart
This is so fucking cool. I've been playing SC2 since the beta days, and I never imagined stuff like this would be possible. What a thing of beauty.
Love these. But there's a question. Did someone ever make a custom campaign where you can play as one of the coop heroes? I'd love to play campaign with stukov and his buildings instead of kerrigan. It would be pretty unbalanced, but should be fun
I need a new computer if I'm gonna do heart of the swarm real scale. I get an army of banelings with a few zerglings and kerrigan and my laptop can barely handle it. Two full control groups of 500 plus an extra almost 350? I like being able to play, thank you.
SC BW custom campaigns are still being made (It's ironically easier to make them for BW than BW remastered) aswell btw and somehow SC BW has a system that's far easier to use for MOST custom campaigns and tha;ts the good ol fashioned drag and drop files
this is Genius, we need Alpha version of SC2 unit for WOL campaign
Also, just asking if custom campaigns works for other languages? Cause on my side nightmare difficulty seems not appeared. But I didn't check it on English yet.
Very cool. I'd love to see some summary videos on your main channel for some of the custom campaigns you've played. I've watched a decent amount of some of the various campaign mods you've played through on the 2nd channel. Some 30min+ highlight videos would be nice to see for the ones I haven't had the time to see, similar to the deathless and no build videos you have on the main channel.
Hey can someone design a mono battle but it's the campaign and you pick a different unit per map? This is just a quality of life mod idea for people who want zergling/marine/stalker only
Oh and is Grant ever gonna try extermination edition for LotV?
Dude, the devil's playground is unbeatable... it's not the same version as the one you were playing a few months ago. So much pressure and there's always a creep tumor and a handful of zerglings and hydralisks at the mineral nodes after every lava wave... can't even go anywhere far without having to come back and defend jesus!
OMG thanks for the now reasonable way for me to play modded SCII games extending the play life of this great game, now all l have to do is find the time to get them and play them ;-(
And it is a delight to support you in what way l can giving your passion for supporting the fans of StarCraft and providing such great content all this time, keep up the good work.
Honestly, I haven't played one second of SC2 since I finished the horrible Void campaign... You have got my attention.
I'm glad that the time it takes to create custom campaigns have been lowered, but in the end it seems like most of these mods are rather shallow in its customization.
Tweaking stats and increasing/decreasing scale only does so much to breathe new life into old campaigns.
What made each new expansion campaign new and refreshing was the new story, missions, and for me most importantly the army customization.
Until we get that I can't confidently say that it's the golden age of SC2 custom campaign.
I have no clue about SC2 modding, but i heard someone in the comments of one of the videos say that importing stuff from Heroes of the Storm is possible. If that is true it would be really cool to have the Infested Tychus skin for your HotS Randomizer hero unit. Though i cant help but feel that the easy to import thing is just made up.
Is the Custom Campaign Manager available anywhere other than on Discord? Thanks
Could you possibly get with the Mass Recall team and put their mod into your manager in some form? I can never get it to work right. :V
Bro you gotta give us a playthrough of the new campaign difficulty!