Shadiversity KNIGHT HAD CROSSBOWS JUST SO EVERWONE KNOWS crossbow better than bows better penetration. better accuracy easier to use a fucking pheasant could use the damn. thing better than any yumi
Considering that the vikings took over half of England establishing the "Danelaw" region I'd dare say they knew how to fight against the armies of the time
1. Vikings have been found that was buried with Damascus steel so we know that equipment is not an issue. 2. not only was the Vikings able to conquer all of England a few vikings served as an elite unit for the Byzantine empire where they were both guards and played vital roles in war
As soon as I saw his video I knew you, Shad, Metatron, and Skallagrim were going to tear it apart. MatPat needs to slow down and take a break in between videos. I think the stress of putting out videos is costing his research time.
The cynical side of me wonders if people like Matpat deliberately post poorly researched videos, knowing that other TH-camrs will "tear them apart". As the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
Well... I mean, maybe he would get some viewers, but I hope more people will get to enjoy the lesser known history channels out there. They are the ones who are going to benefit from making reply videos. Also, I doubt he purposely wanted a ton of youtubers to do videos on him. He recently did a video on Undertale and according to him the amount of hate that video received was crushing. Luckily us historical nerds are more interested in debunking stereotypes than hating, so a good amount of comments were actually constructive.
+Jango Fett "a good amount of comments were actually constructive." It really shocks and angers me that a lot of Matpat's fans can't see that. The little sycophants think he can do no wrong and dismiss the people wanting to set the facts straight as "haters", and think he should be immune from criticism "because of the effort he puts into his videos". They're such zealous fanboys that they treat Matpat like an infallible god, and refuse to acknowledge facts from people that actually know what they are talking about.
metatron also made a video and skallagrims is also making a video, so i gess matpat should really research more before doing another video with this theme bcus the community is boiling right now
You know what's sad? That yours, Shad's, and Metraton's video combined are probably never going to reach 1/100th of the audience the clichè-ridden original video had.
well he's only really messed up on this one and the wario. so sure just ignore the fact that he uses math and science to prove that to be able to fly using your legs you'd dislocate them. lol, oh and finding Luigi's mansion price.
Yung Venuz God of guns Matpat isn't wrong tho he is talking about Vikings in a specific time period this guy is talking about them much further on in time so actually he is the one making the mistake
+Arkeus 1465 and viking in that specific time period had decent weapons and armour, and it was the end time period of viking and also snap is talking about viking in all from the early to the end time period of them so he is not wrong and thus matpat is
He did the same thing with his Sonic video a while back, and since Shadiversity, Metatron, SnapJell and Skallagrim all are doing videos on this one as well; I predict he will get a triggered the backlash again :)
Game Theory made a video called: "The Science of Sonic the Hedgehog". Then Vsauce3 made a video called: "Science of Sonic the Hedgehog". With apparently did much better. Game Theory made a responce video named: "How Fast is Sonic the Hedgehog?" Matpat later admitted that it was wrong of him to view other TH-camrs as competitors. And apologized in a video called: "My Reaction to the Fine Bros React World Controversy". Since the Fine Bros fucked up in a much greater faction on a similar issue.
Just to make it something clear SCANDINAVIA IS NOT A FROZEN WASTELAND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, Vikings could grow their own food, and MatPat seems to also forget (for example) Norways massive coastline that remained ice free all year, were there lived ALOT of fish.
Not to mention we know that the vikings invaded, full on invaded, England many times. An especially well known invasion the invasion of 1066, right in the 11th century the exact time period he is discussing.
Dont forget that the Normans that conquered England 1066 was vikings too. They were given the province of normandy from the french king to protect france from viking raiders
After watching Shad's and now Snap's video about this, it baffles me how much misinformation the original video seem to contain. Hopefully Metatron will get in depth on the Samurai part to flush out some more rubbish statements.
There actualy is a "Viking matrial art" called Glima. find it funny its just called a viking matrial art considering vikings only where called that When they Raided, and for The most, they where tradesmen. they often traded with fur, and other products, and that fur was high quality due to The region it came from. I do think aswell that I can see Varangien traits in some of The viking warriors, though I dont know if they where around The 11th scentey.
MatPat is a discount News Anchor. From the way he looks to the very sound of his voice and his mannerisms. He isn't meant to be knowledgeable, he's meant to gab in an annoying voice.
Relevance? Oh sorry, I forgot, blind fanboyism. Hope MatPat's check is in the mail. Oh right, he doesn't give a shit about your adoration. Anything else?
Wait...Are we talking about the Pre-SAT? I nearly got a perfect score as a 9th grader in high school(Bit of an exaggeration, but not far off the last time I checked)Really, all you need is to have/do a few important things to come close to that score. A: Decent will to study (Hard trait for some, simplistic for others) B:A good teacher/tutor can go a long way to this goal C:A rhythmic study system set in place long before the day of the test. Now, I know C sounds daunting, but two to five hours a week, split between several days is easy to manage. Matpat is far from special with that score. One of my personal friends (Who I envy) is a physical genius, and is my best friend to this date, due to the capability of being able to talk about anything with him. Yet, I believe he would not be able to get a perfect score on the PSAT. Not because of intellect (He has that) but because his ambitions are elsewhere. Yet I can not correctly judge how much Matpat put into his test, for I can not say. But what I can say is that some ambitions led him there, and some ambitions have lured him to here today. I judge not by diplomas, doctorates, MDs, or any other forms of education. I judge by action, and Matpat's actions speak for themselves. He is a News Anchor, with a sheen of intellect rubbed in, and that intelligence has perhaps done him a disservice. Either way you take this, just know, I mean no harm through words, I only wish to speak what I think.
Do not get me wrong though, I would not have Matpat be Caesar, and these videos being Brutus, with fans being the conspirators that stabbed Caesar 23 times, for that is too barbaric for what Matpat had done. He had not brought a empire to power(and to it's fall, but that is for another time) with an iron fist. All Matpat did was make videos that were factually incorrect. Just remember, Matpat should also never have to say "Et tu, Brute" metaphorically to any channel.(Even if it would be fun to watch)
I can't believe Snapjelly has under 10,000 subscribers he's possibly my favorite youtuber and every time I see his sub count or view count it amazes me how so few people watch his videos
Like SnapJelly, I'm a collector of swords and student of military and weapon history. It's been a passion of mine for a long time. I feel I'm on-par or at just slightly behind his knowledge. So I do know about the subject. :)
8:37 That's now what he's saying though. He says that the vikings were lightly equipped opportunists, who preyed on weak targets, like farms or monasteries, for example, but didn't stand a chance against a regular army. I feel it could be accurate. I mean, let's assume you're a wealthy Norseman, who owns several villages and is generally well off. Why would you go across the sea, rob poor farmers and risk getting killed by angry Anglo-Saxons? What could you hope to steal that would validate the danger? If you're poor, then yeah, you could pillage a few villages and then have enough money to buy a house, abandon raiding and be a family man.
Also, a "viking culture" means as much as "cowboy culture" in America. "Viking" is an occupation, a sea raider, a bandit. People who did the raiding called themselves Scandinavians. This thing about women and children fighting come from a few Scandinavian settlements in Britain, where they found graves of women and children with swords inside. They had swords, so they were warriors, right? If I buy a gun, I'm practically a commando then.
The people who did the raiding were Vikings on Viking. And it they controlled a large chunk of briatin for a long time i think they could fend of normal armies.
Are you sure those guys controlling Britain were actual vikings or only "vikings" in the same sense as the Norman knights? Also, was the 1812 war fought between cowboys and lumberjacks.
Nethan2000 they were danes so preeeety much "vikings" or norsemen. The normans were a former viking colony so a little mix of french and norse. Google the danelaw
I was quite blown away by how inaccurate Game Theory was too, MatPat usually puts a lot of time and effort researching into his videos but this video seemed he just went off stereotypes, and the Samurai winning I thought was more of a cop-out to appease his fans. Great video man!
Unfortunately MatPat has never been amazing in the arms and armor department. I remember his other For Honor video, which was part of TH-cam Red, was basically just choreography despite being called 'The Science of Sword Fighting'. I respect him as a creator and a person, but I wish we could see more research put into this area/genres of his videos.
The reason you probably only find the glaring holes in his theories is likely due to you knowing this area so well that you can spot them. The rest aren't without fault either.
Rawhide lamellar is mentioned in some Frankish codexes as giving it as gift to Norsemen but rejected them as they wanted steel maille. Varangian guard had maille and steel lamellar.
I doubt it, (keep in mind this is second hand information) I've heard that he generally does not care when he is wrong and I heard one guy say he can get pissy about it (but again just second hand information).
Dylan Moniz look at his reply comment on his vid, he's very butthurt he's been called out and claims we all are butthurt fanboys who did 5 seconds on research on google
3:15 Depends on which "era" you're talking about. In the early stages of the Roman Republic that is true, the soldiers had to afford their equipment, hence the separation into Hastati, Principes, etc. The Post-Marian Legionnaires' equipment however was supplied by the state and, as you say correctly, was used again after the soldier's retirement or death.
I am glad that you covered the Vikings with some honest information. While I do not have a dog in this fight, from all of the research and reading I have done over the years, Vikings were hellaciously formidable in battle. Example: At the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066, though without armor (they left it behind so that they could travel much faster and farther), a SINGLE Norseman did this: "By the time the bulk of the English army had arrived, the Vikings on the west side were either slain or fleeing across the bridge. The English advance was then delayed by the need to pass through the choke-point presented by the bridge itself. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle has it that a giant Norse axeman (possibly armed with a Dane Axe) blocked the narrow crossing and single-handedly held up the entire English army. The story is that this axeman cut down up to 40 Englishmen and was defeated only when an English soldier floated under the bridge in a half-barrel and thrust his spear through the planks in the bridge, mortally wounding the axeman." Not able to fight, huh? Of course, they lost, but this was in part due to the fact that they decided to leave their armor at home so as to reach England faster, and to hook up far inland with Tostig, the new English King Harold's brother, who was contesting the throne. Had they been armored as usual, the outcome would quite possibly have been very different given their skills and savage fighting techniques. Yes, they had plenty of armor, but it does one no good if one does not wear it.
Side-note to the statement that all vikings being poor was absurd. It super is absurb, the vikings on average were pretty well off, as they followed men they chose to follow, and you choose to follow the man who rewards you with silver and gold.
I think I've figured Mat's video(especially after seeing the start of the Undertale 3 parter he put out).It shows very clearly he was concentrating on the undertale one and that it is a passion project for him,the fact that it has 3 parts of about 20min each shows that as well.Considering that,the fact that he himself said he would put out a For Honor video to "hold people out" and that it was a sponsored video just goes to show that he got Ubisoft's check,handed the research and script to some intern he has and just read it to the camera while he was more preoccupied with fictional skeletons.And the way that backfired on him is just so god damm beautiful ^^.Don't know if he will learn anything but after you,Skallgrim,Shad,Metatron,the bad History Subreddit and many others ripped him a new one in such a way maybe(and hopefully) he will think twice next time.
I've heard second hand that there are a few examples of hardened leather bracers and shin guards, I'm not 100% sure on it, since I haven't found any sources on it myself asside from a quick video clip with no backed evidence
I think Metatron, Shad, Skallagrim, SnapJelly, and other well known history channels should observe the trailers and make an accurate analysis to this. The game's massive Earthquake didn't happen in the 11th century like Matt said, the Knights in the cinematic trailer had Sallets and Fullplate
Even that is kind of funny because if he used popular shows like Vikings, the Vikings still wore chainmail, still were well-trained, still used swords (a lot at that) and still had those big shields. It just surprises me how he portrayed them in his video.
+AvisAvem well, "vikings" is also highly innacurate in its portrayel. and does actually include several debunked myths of vikings.. such as berskers going into battle literally "bare" (which is nothing but a mistranslation of the word). they dont have horns on their Helmets, but seeing all of its different romanticised and wrong portrayels they might aswell have..
Now i have no source, but hardened leather for vikings makes sense. It is actually really good armor (really good. Go check out Thegn Thrand) And its really easy to make and get.
First off, great video, thank you for fighting all the misconceptions floating around. I wanted to add a thing or two about the Scandinavian tribes and kingdoms of that era that most call Vikings. People seem to think they only raided, monastery and villages, while they were also traders, explorers and conquerors, Ireland, Scotland, the Danelaw, the swedes(Svear and geats at this time) in the east, sacking of Hamburg and Paris, Friese, I could go on, that’s hardly raiding, it's conquest. And the whole idea about being bad fighters and having bad equipment, where to even begin. Their succes in this era shows they knew what they were doing, both when it came to equipment, fighting and tactics. Not to mention all the in fighting between smaller kingdoms in Scandinavia both before and during the Viking era, you'd think they would learn atleast a thing or two from that. As you mentioned there are evidence of mail and helmets, and vide array of weaponry, they knew their way around the forge, there is no denying it. I just don’t understand where all this comes from, it's not just the video in question, it's almost everywhere. As for the 11th century, Scandinavia was well on its way to becoming christian, and the kingdoms we know today had been established or well on its way to becoming so. Battle tactics wouldn't be much different than in other parts of europe, and I doubt the housecarls of Scandinavia and Anglo-Saxon England would be any less equipped than the Knights of Normandie or Frankia. Question is do you take into consideration 1066 and the shock cavalry of the Normans? Many consider the Viking era to have ended when Harald Hardrada of Norway and his host was defeated at Stamford Bridge. That doesn't mean however that the Scandinavians suddenly dissappeared from excistance, they would continue to wage war and expand, though not in the same way. There so much that could be rambled about, but I'll stop now ;P
you talked about maintaining there blades and armor and really got me interested so i checked they would of had lots more options then i would have thought: Olive oil, turnip oil, canola oil, linseed oil, rapeseed oil - were all known. Also animal fats were used. Often the scabbard had fur inside, which would contain natural fats and keep the blade from rusting. now that his cool
I agree with your arguments, although it' a little bit true that Vikings rarely picked opponents who would be well versed. their strategy was usually to attack a non-armed station - like a cloister - and murder everything that threw a shadow. After one, two, three such blitz assaults, everyone else just paid them tribute - loading most of what they had outside the city gates on a cart - in hopes of being left alone. Not so much because they would be superior as combatants, but because they were mass murdering lunatics and people saw them as a plague. It was a scare tactic, not so much field tactic.
The idea of rust does make me wonder though if perhaps Bronze armor was used on ships. I know iron armor is perfectly viable but oil is expensive and it's time consuming to apply. Also it's heavier weight would be a little troublesome on the moving deck of a ship.
Great video! However, wasn't the murder stroke technique used with a sword to strike helmets with the quillons? This again sounds more like 15th century plate armored knight combat instead of 11th century knights.
Hey SnapJelly, realy like the video (although the topic itself seems to be somewhat moot :-D) There are just two things I'd like to add. You mention the 'viking' might wear a spectacle helmet and I realy doubt that. These helmets were pretty outdated in the 11th century. They were crafted from several pieces of metal and riveted together. By the time we're talking about they used nasal helmets made from one solid piece... and most likely mail collars fixed to the nasal part. You also seem to be quite shure about the.... skandinavian warrior would use a center-grip round shield. He might, but he does not have to. The kite shield had begun to replace the round shield. There must have been a reason for that. I never had much oppotunity to use the kite shield so I dont know for shure, but I believe in a battle line it does a much better job. In a single combat however the round shield may be the better choice, becaue... what you said (i believe you did that in the 2nd vid). So, if he knew what he is up to, he might actualy choose the shield accordingly. Same goes for the knight and the samurai of course. I believe the knowledge that you will be facing one (or two) opponents and not go into a full-scale battle might change the outfit drastically. Especialy the samurai might alter his choices a lot, knowing he does not get a horse. Another important point could be the origin of the knight. If he is english, we might have quite a bit of trouble to distinguish him from the "viking". European knights and scandinavian warriors would sometimes not be that different, if the came from the same time, would they?
3:00 min: In the roman army, there where troops, which were armed from the roman state and hasn't armed themself with there own wealth. Since 123-122 B.C. they are armed from there military leader and not longer by themselfes. Vikings on the other hand had to armed themself and so is the question: why should an common nordic man, which has an life out of raids and battles (there was in peacetimes farmer, woodcutter and craftsman, like other man in other cultures in this time too) invest the same amount of metal - which was not cheap - for an sword, if he can buy an axe or a spear and use the rest of the metal he can buy for an any old tool, which he will use more often in peace ? I think that swords were an objekt of prestige in the viking culture and that the normal warriors wouldn't be in metall armour and swords. ...but it is an question from which time we speak, if we speak of "the Vikings", of course. Metal will be much cheaper, if the possibilities to earn and process it will be better. I thougt at the time from 800 - 900 A.C.
When he says they are untrained I’d say that they had formulated a dozen techniques for armed and unarmed combat their was a reason all of Europe feared them, because they were highly trained and a competent fighting force when it came to warfare tactics
Hey there. There are a few mentions of gambesons, leather gambesons and what might be translated as lamellar armor ("spangabrynja" in the viking sagas, though
Oops. Hit the wrong key before I finished... Anyway, there are some (admittedly tenuous) sources for certain types of leather armor and gambeson, but the evidence is slim.
Poor Vikings can conquer the medieval castles. Produce modern quality steel for Ulfberht swords. They can navigate in all conditions. But no one has yet overcome human ignorance. Thanks jelly for straightening this. :D Zajebisty materiał !!!
We know a bit of how the Norsk fought, particularly their strategic tactics. And... they were pretty damned good. That's why so many people were freaked out by them, and why they won SO many battles. Alfred was called, "the Great", because he successfully came out even with the Vikings.
you are kind of right about most of it and it takes very little time to check it. what i find more disturbing is the fact that the game actually depicts nudist vikings an knights wearing full armor from the 14th century and long swords from the 13th century. it is like the game does not drag historically accurate 11th century warriors
Awesome dude! are you Dutch? I am Dutch myself and thought you sounded Dutch. In any case you do a good reply that is proudly up there with the one's from Skal, the Metatron and Shad!! gonna watch more of your stuff now xd
types of armor found in scandinavia that dates back to a viking age lamellar(metal or some type of refined leather) mail and most likely types of some padded armor
Hey snap I can't believe I forgotten ur channel but do you think you can do a video on some of the heros of for honor like warden an the recent warmonger
Thanks for giving the viking a credit that was well deserved. They were the first know people to use crucible steel and while it may have not been for every weapon then it should at least give enough insight to their knowledge of crafting weapons. not to mention they can be given credit for creating the martial art called glima (combat grappling) that had trips and hip tosses AND even submissions way before any form of judo or jiu-jitsu.
3:24 not all over the world, exeptions go to america wich had practically no use of steel at the time, and japan in wich case ther was use of it, a lot, but not on the mass-production side of the game, it was more like something fairly expensive to get and forge. still, for the sake of defending the vikings that doesn't matter
Got into the game, and the opening mentions how they have been fighting each other for a millennia. That really changes up the entire situation significantly.
Hell, that Matpat boy just feels too compelled to talk stuff he knows jackshit about, and Jack did move out of town... Honestly, he should stay with "Is Mario a communist" tipe of content ;)
Just one look at Wikipedia's entry on Viking Age arms and armour should have been enough to dissuade MatPat from making some of those statements. "According to Heimskringla, one hundred Vikings appeared "in coats of ring-mail, and in foreign helmets" at the Battle of Nesjar[38] in 1016." While Wikipedia is not an authority, there's a reference. And 1016... hmm. That's 11th century, isn't it?
on the hardened leather, as far as i know one chest piece was found in a burial though most experts seem to think it was traded for rather than domestically produced.
+SnapJelly www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?39721-Viking-lamellar-no-more here's a link to info on the piece, don't assume I'm talking out of my ass I'm just a fan trying to help, like you asked for in the video.
Fun fact. By my knowledge the word berserker comes from the "bear shirted", and they were not some mushroom munching nudist shield biters, but the first calls in legal matters and combat related representatives of the lords and wealthy.
One point bothers me, the sentence you said: A sword to the helmet with mail and padding underneath it doesn't do anything. Have you ever been hit with a sword to the helmet? It might be right that a strike to the head of person with a helmet is not an effective way because helmets mostly are designed to deflect a sword, but still, this one time i got a direct hit to the helmet with a padding underneath like 2cm thick, it damn hurt. Not like cutting hurt or smashing hut, but i was confused, also because of my limited sight in my Great Helm it did not know what happened. This few seconds of "daze" more like a confusion, is enough for a finishing strike beneath the Helmet, or in the Armpits, below the belly where ever your armour is weak. So be sure, a hit to the helmet can cost your life, its definitly not "nothing"
Sorry one point i forgot....except the point above, GREAT VIDEO. I like most of your videos a lot because they are mostly very well researched and accurate. I can only speak of my "field experience" as an exhibtion fighter and technician in medival fighting styles, but most of the less known historical parts are not known to me
I'm just curious here, but how did you get your expertise? You are very knowledgeable about a wide variety of time periods, cultures and styles of weapons. Did you learn all this just from reading, training and participation in HEMA or do you have formal education in this area?
This almost makes me think Matt was trying to be clever "oh look at me, i'm dismantling the uber masculine stereotype of the badass viking warrior, they were really shit". While at the same time, seemingly ignoring the simple fact that if Viking really were as bad as he claims, they couldn't possibly BE as historically imfamous as they are. Great vid Snapjelly.
Great video mate, I'm really glad you addressed the viking stuff as I skipped over that part ^_^
Shadiversity Yey shad!
good day shad
Yeay shad, SJ and matpat... gosh i wish u 3 could do a vid together *-*
Hi Shad, seems everyone has seen this video but me! I am off to see metatron's as well soon
Shadiversity KNIGHT HAD CROSSBOWS JUST SO EVERWONE KNOWS crossbow better than bows better penetration. better accuracy easier to use a fucking pheasant could use the damn. thing better than any yumi
Considering that the vikings took over half of England establishing the "Danelaw" region I'd dare say they knew how to fight against the armies of the time
widgren87 until the armies of the time organised themselves properly and then pushed back and alfreds grandson reconquered England
1. Vikings have been found that was buried with Damascus steel so we know that equipment is not an issue. 2. not only was the Vikings able to conquer all of England a few vikings served as an elite unit for the Byzantine empire where they were both guards and played vital roles in war
Vikings rushing? like rush b? I thought they used shieldwalls and other amazing tactics.
Maarten Hendrix Rush B in boar snout, take site, plant bomb, form shield wall.
The Knight wins because he is the only one who can rightly kill his enemy
ranger_app ye old pommel throw
Pommel thro 2 stronk pls nurf
Please explain
Harold Gerken There is a medieval fighting manual that instructs to unscrew the pommel and throw it at the enemy to "End them rightly"
The Phoenix thank you for the explanation
As soon as I saw his video I knew you, Shad, Metatron, and Skallagrim were going to tear it apart. MatPat needs to slow down and take a break in between videos. I think the stress of putting out videos is costing his research time.
The cynical side of me wonders if people like Matpat deliberately post poorly researched videos, knowing that other TH-camrs will "tear them apart".
As the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
Well... I mean, maybe he would get some viewers, but I hope more people will get to enjoy the lesser known history channels out there. They are the ones who are going to benefit from making reply videos. Also, I doubt he purposely wanted a ton of youtubers to do videos on him. He recently did a video on Undertale and according to him the amount of hate that video received was crushing. Luckily us historical nerds are more interested in debunking stereotypes than hating, so a good amount of comments were actually constructive.
+Jango Fett "a good amount of comments were actually constructive." It really shocks and angers me that a lot of Matpat's fans can't see that. The little sycophants think he can do no wrong and dismiss the people wanting to set the facts straight as "haters", and think he should be immune from criticism "because of the effort he puts into his videos". They're such zealous fanboys that they treat Matpat like an infallible god, and refuse to acknowledge facts from people that actually know what they are talking about.
metatron also made a video and skallagrims is also making a video, so i gess matpat should really research more before doing another video with this theme bcus the community is boiling right now
It's weird right? He's done some seriously solid research in the past, so why all the sloppy this time?
You know what's sad?
That yours, Shad's, and Metraton's video combined are probably never going to reach 1/100th of the audience the clichè-ridden original video had.
It's so sad that there are rivers of tears.
*gasp* the Christmas poo!!!!!
At least the debunking videos have a more positive reception in like/dislike ratio.
a game theory video being inaccurate? what's new?
they're usually accurate.
Andrew Snyder "Accurate". Most of it is just confirmation bias and using statistics awfully.
well he's only really messed up on this one and the wario. so sure just ignore the fact that he uses math and science to prove that to be able to fly using your legs you'd dislocate them. lol, oh and finding Luigi's mansion price.
Yung Venuz God of guns Matpat isn't wrong tho he is talking about Vikings in a specific time period this guy is talking about them much further on in time so actually he is the one making the mistake
+Arkeus 1465 and viking in that specific time period had decent weapons and armour, and it was the end time period of viking and also snap is talking about viking in all from the early to the end time period of them so he is not wrong and thus matpat is
Matpat needs to stick to Five Nights at Freddies and Undertale
I heard he's been getting alot of flack over Undertale. Through the grape vine.
He made a video getting super pissed and triggered at the backlash.
He did the same thing with his Sonic video a while back, and since Shadiversity, Metatron, SnapJell and Skallagrim all are doing videos on this one as well; I predict he will get a triggered the backlash again :)
really ? i could not find that one video
Game Theory made a video called: "The Science of Sonic the Hedgehog". Then Vsauce3 made a video called: "Science of Sonic the Hedgehog". With apparently did much better. Game Theory made a responce video named: "How Fast is Sonic the Hedgehog?"
Matpat later admitted that it was wrong of him to view other TH-camrs as competitors. And apologized in a video called: "My Reaction to the Fine Bros React World Controversy".
Since the Fine Bros fucked up in a much greater faction on a similar issue.
Just to make it something clear SCANDINAVIA IS NOT A FROZEN WASTELAND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, Vikings could grow their own food, and MatPat seems to also forget (for example) Norways massive coastline that remained ice free all year, were there lived ALOT of fish.
Agreed, if you can't grow food there, people don't tend to stick around, that's why they're called WASTElands.
Also also, medieval warm period
Rick Steve's Europe shows that not all of Scandinavia is tundra.
Vikings, literally famous for raiding and killing. "Nope, they had shitty weapons, no armor and no training". Wait, what?
Oh, this is beautiful. First Shadiversity, now you rip apart his video. This is great.
metatron says he's working on one aswell X)
I can't wait
SnapJelly where is part 2 I cant click on that bc I'm on mobile
yeah mattpat needs to work on his research with historical stuff.
Damien Burnsworth Did you see Mat butt hurt comment saying that he is sticking by his conclusion? God he just acting so smug.
Not to mention we know that the vikings invaded, full on invaded, England many times. An especially well known invasion the invasion of 1066, right in the 11th century the exact time period he is discussing.
Dont forget that the Normans that conquered England 1066 was vikings too. They were given the province of normandy from the french king to protect france from viking raiders
Anthony Micaroni They fucking sacked Paris!
Paris!
Paris was the most fortified place of its time and they sacked the city!
they conquered france many times over too, taking Paris and other cities hostage
they even attacked and took constantinople (once)
After watching Shad's and now Snap's video about this, it baffles me how much misinformation the original video seem to contain.
Hopefully Metatron will get in depth on the Samurai part to flush out some more rubbish statements.
SpunkyTheNutcase
Aye.
Shad, Metatron, and Skalligrim all did a video on it.
There actualy is a "Viking matrial art" called Glima.
find it funny its just called a viking matrial art considering vikings only where called that When they Raided, and for The most, they where tradesmen.
they often traded with fur, and other products, and that fur was high quality due to The region it came from.
I do think aswell that I can see Varangien traits in some of The viking warriors, though I dont know if they where around The 11th scentey.
MatPat is a discount News Anchor. From the way he looks to the very sound of his voice and his mannerisms. He isn't meant to be knowledgeable, he's meant to gab in an annoying voice.
NorthernDragon And yet he got a perfect score on his PSAT, can you say the same?
Relevance? Oh sorry, I forgot, blind fanboyism. Hope MatPat's check is in the mail. Oh right, he doesn't give a shit about your adoration. Anything else?
Wait...Are we talking about the Pre-SAT? I nearly got a perfect score as a 9th grader in high school(Bit of an exaggeration, but not far off the last time I checked)Really, all you need is to have/do a few important things to come close to that score.
A: Decent will to study (Hard trait for some, simplistic for others)
B:A good teacher/tutor can go a long way to this goal
C:A rhythmic study system set in place long before the day of the test. Now, I know C sounds daunting, but two to five hours a week, split between several days is easy to manage.
Matpat is far from special with that score. One of my personal friends (Who I envy) is a physical genius, and is my best friend to this date, due to the capability of being able to talk about anything with him.
Yet, I believe he would not be able to get a perfect score on the PSAT.
Not because of intellect (He has that) but because his ambitions are elsewhere. Yet I can not correctly judge how much Matpat put into his
test, for I can not say. But what I can say is that some ambitions led him there, and some ambitions have lured him to here today.
I judge not by diplomas, doctorates, MDs, or any other forms of education. I judge by action, and Matpat's actions speak for themselves. He is a News Anchor, with a sheen of intellect rubbed in,
and that intelligence has perhaps done him a disservice.
Either way you take this, just know, I mean no harm through words, I only wish to speak what I think.
Do not get me wrong though, I would not have Matpat be Caesar, and these videos being Brutus, with fans being the conspirators that stabbed Caesar 23 times, for that is too barbaric for what Matpat had done. He had not brought a empire to power(and to it's fall, but that is for another time) with an iron fist. All Matpat did was make videos that were factually incorrect.
Just remember, Matpat should also never have to say "Et tu, Brute" metaphorically to any channel.(Even if it would be fun to watch)
I can't believe Snapjelly has under 10,000 subscribers he's possibly my favorite youtuber and every time I see his sub count or view count it amazes me how so few people watch his videos
Wyatt Barrett hes a relatively new youtuber and still growing he achieved a lot in less than a year
Ah, its a sad life being allergic to bullshit. Though together we'll all manage.
people always dont know nothing about vikings... that guy was cringy to watch but you made a very good video.
Moustacheman Number One I did a report on them. MatPat was soooooo wrong
A double negative REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
The Lone Drone Very true.
And you "don’t know nothing” about English
+Batman17007- Who gives a fuck? Do you speak fluent Chinese or fluent Hebrew?
You saved me from trying to make a video myself. I was willing to learn how just to disprove Matpat's history. Thanks for saving me the work!
Like SnapJelly, I'm a collector of swords and student of military and weapon history. It's been a passion of mine for a long time. I feel I'm on-par or at just slightly behind his knowledge. So I do know about the subject. :)
2:19 That shield and a sword are steel weapons from Skyrim. Tells a lot how historically accurate his video is.
8:37 That's now what he's saying though. He says that the vikings were lightly equipped opportunists, who preyed on weak targets, like farms or monasteries, for example, but didn't stand a chance against a regular army. I feel it could be accurate. I mean, let's assume you're a wealthy Norseman, who owns several villages and is generally well off. Why would you go across the sea, rob poor farmers and risk getting killed by angry Anglo-Saxons? What could you hope to steal that would validate the danger? If you're poor, then yeah, you could pillage a few villages and then have enough money to buy a house, abandon raiding and be a family man.
Also, a "viking culture" means as much as "cowboy culture" in America. "Viking" is an occupation, a sea raider, a bandit. People who did the raiding called themselves Scandinavians. This thing about women and children fighting come from a few Scandinavian settlements in Britain, where they found graves of women and children with swords inside. They had swords, so they were warriors, right? If I buy a gun, I'm practically a commando then.
The people who did the raiding were Vikings on Viking. And it they controlled a large chunk of briatin for a long time i think they could fend of normal armies.
Are you sure those guys controlling Britain were actual vikings or only "vikings" in the same sense as the Norman knights? Also, was the 1812 war fought between cowboys and lumberjacks.
Nethan2000 they were danes so preeeety much "vikings" or norsemen. The normans were a former viking colony so a little mix of french and norse. Google the danelaw
Oh, BTW, agriculture works in Scandinavia as well. (Hard in northern Finland though)
0:37 MatPat actually has a history of getting things wrong.
game theory has been pretty ehhh ever since fnaf
Proffesor Roboenza check out his other channel, Film Theory, I think it's better
FNAF fame got to his head....
Ben Holden Even thats starting to slip a little after his meme video.
*worse
COUGH COUGH cannibalism works aerodynamically COUGH COUGH
Proffesor Roboenza
Game Theory always had a spoty history with being accurate .
I was quite blown away by how inaccurate Game Theory was too, MatPat usually puts a lot of time and effort researching into his videos but this video seemed he just went off stereotypes, and the Samurai winning I thought was more of a cop-out to appease his fans. Great video man!
Unfortunately MatPat has never been amazing in the arms and armor department. I remember his other For Honor video, which was part of TH-cam Red, was basically just choreography despite being called 'The Science of Sword Fighting'. I respect him as a creator and a person, but I wish we could see more research put into this area/genres of his videos.
The reason you probably only find the glaring holes in his theories is likely due to you knowing this area so well that you can spot them. The rest aren't without fault either.
Rawhide lamellar is mentioned in some Frankish codexes as giving it as gift to Norsemen but rejected them as they wanted steel maille. Varangian guard had maille and steel lamellar.
I wonder if he will make a response to all those videos you guys are making.
I doubt it, (keep in mind this is second hand information) I've heard that he generally does not care when he is wrong and I heard one guy say he can get pissy about it (but again just second hand information).
Dylan Moniz didn't he get really mad about the "Sans is Ness" meme that came from one of his theories
Dylan Moniz, this is how bullshit rumors are spread. :p
Dylan Moniz look at his reply comment on his vid, he's very butthurt he's been called out and claims we all are butthurt fanboys who did 5 seconds on research on google
+NinjaTyler
If only he did 5 seconds of google research at all.
3:15 Depends on which "era" you're talking about. In the early stages of the Roman Republic that is true, the soldiers had to afford their equipment, hence the separation into Hastati, Principes, etc. The Post-Marian Legionnaires' equipment however was supplied by the state and, as you say correctly, was used again after the soldier's retirement or death.
I talked about you in the comments of matpat's video
Vikings actually had very good chainmail and helmets
The Byzantines used Viking mercenaries for parts of their army
Luke Song the varangian guards?
Ironvale Yes
states that Vikings carry shield on back then kills Viking with arrow to the back...K den.
I am glad that you covered the Vikings with some honest information. While I do not have a dog in this fight, from all of the research and reading I have done over the years, Vikings were hellaciously formidable in battle. Example: At the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066, though without armor (they left it behind so that they could travel much faster and farther), a SINGLE Norseman did this:
"By the time the bulk of the English army had arrived, the Vikings on the west side were either slain or fleeing across the bridge. The English advance was then delayed by the need to pass through the choke-point presented by the bridge itself. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle has it that a giant Norse axeman (possibly armed with a Dane Axe) blocked the narrow crossing and single-handedly held up the entire English army. The story is that this axeman cut down up to 40 Englishmen and was defeated only when an English soldier floated under the bridge in a half-barrel and thrust his spear through the planks in the bridge, mortally wounding the axeman."
Not able to fight, huh? Of course, they lost, but this was in part due to the fact that they decided to leave their armor at home so as to reach England faster, and to hook up far inland with Tostig, the new English King Harold's brother, who was contesting the throne. Had they been armored as usual, the outcome would quite possibly have been very different given their skills and savage fighting techniques.
Yes, they had plenty of armor, but it does one no good if one does not wear it.
I love it how game theory stepped into this community's territory, and got torn to pieces by so many different people.
1:51 just look at Ulfberht
Great job on this one Jelly, as usual. Thanks for the work you put in.
Side-note to the statement that all vikings being poor was absurd. It super is absurb, the vikings on average were pretty well off, as they followed men they chose to follow, and you choose to follow the man who rewards you with silver and gold.
I think I've figured Mat's video(especially after seeing the start of the Undertale 3 parter he put out).It shows very clearly he was concentrating on the undertale one and that it is a passion project for him,the fact that it has 3 parts of about 20min each shows that as well.Considering that,the fact that he himself said he would put out a For Honor video to "hold people out" and that it was a sponsored video just goes to show that he got Ubisoft's check,handed the research and script to some intern he has and just read it to the camera while he was more preoccupied with fictional skeletons.And the way that backfired on him is just so god damm beautiful ^^.Don't know if he will learn anything but after you,Skallgrim,Shad,Metatron,the bad History Subreddit and many others ripped him a new one in such a way maybe(and hopefully) he will think twice next time.
I've heard second hand that there are a few examples of hardened leather bracers and shin guards, I'm not 100% sure on it, since I haven't found any sources on it myself asside from a quick video clip with no backed evidence
I think Metatron, Shad, Skallagrim, SnapJelly, and other well known history channels should observe the trailers and make an accurate analysis to this. The game's massive Earthquake didn't happen in the 11th century like Matt said, the Knights in the cinematic trailer had Sallets and Fullplate
SnapJelly: They just wore their armor on the boat.
Edward Kenway: A ship cannot carry a boat, a boat cannot carry a ship
Waiting for part 2. My god that man learned everything he knows of vikings from movies and series, right?
Even that is kind of funny because if he used popular shows like Vikings, the Vikings still wore chainmail, still were well-trained, still used swords (a lot at that) and still had those big shields. It just surprises me how he portrayed them in his video.
yeah, these are the vikings of his own little world.
+AvisAvem well, "vikings" is also highly innacurate in its portrayel. and does actually include several debunked myths of vikings.. such as berskers going into battle literally "bare" (which is nothing but a mistranslation of the word).
they dont have horns on their Helmets, but seeing all of its different romanticised and wrong portrayels they might aswell have..
Now i have no source, but hardened leather for vikings makes sense. It is actually really good armor (really good. Go check out Thegn Thrand) And its really easy to make and get.
First off, great video, thank you for fighting all the misconceptions floating around. I wanted to add a thing or two about the Scandinavian tribes and kingdoms of that era that most call Vikings. People seem to think they only raided, monastery and villages, while they were also traders, explorers and conquerors, Ireland, Scotland, the Danelaw, the swedes(Svear and geats at this time) in the east, sacking of Hamburg and Paris, Friese, I could go on, that’s hardly raiding, it's conquest.
And the whole idea about being bad fighters and having bad equipment, where to even begin. Their succes in this era shows they knew what they were doing, both when it came to equipment, fighting and tactics. Not to mention all the in fighting between smaller kingdoms in Scandinavia both before and during the Viking era, you'd think they would learn atleast a thing or two from that.
As you mentioned there are evidence of mail and helmets, and vide array of weaponry, they knew their way around the forge, there is no denying it. I just don’t understand where all this comes from, it's not just the video in question, it's almost everywhere.
As for the 11th century, Scandinavia was well on its way to becoming christian, and the kingdoms we know today had been established or well on its way to becoming so. Battle tactics wouldn't be much different than in other parts of europe, and I doubt the housecarls of Scandinavia and Anglo-Saxon England would be any less equipped than the Knights of Normandie or Frankia. Question is do you take into consideration 1066 and the shock cavalry of the Normans?
Many consider the Viking era to have ended when Harald Hardrada of Norway and his host was defeated at Stamford Bridge. That doesn't mean however that the Scandinavians suddenly dissappeared from excistance, they would continue to wage war and expand, though not in the same way. There so much that could be rambled about, but I'll stop now ;P
Thank you for these videos! Good to see!
you talked about maintaining there blades and armor and really got me interested so i checked they would of had lots more options then i would have thought: Olive oil, turnip oil, canola oil, linseed oil, rapeseed oil - were all known. Also animal fats were used. Often the scabbard had fur inside, which would contain natural fats and keep the blade from rusting. now that his cool
I agree with your arguments, although it' a little bit true that Vikings rarely picked opponents who would be well versed. their strategy was usually to attack a non-armed station - like a cloister - and murder everything that threw a shadow. After one, two, three such blitz assaults, everyone else just paid them tribute - loading most of what they had outside the city gates on a cart - in hopes of being left alone. Not so much because they would be superior as combatants, but because they were mass murdering lunatics and people saw them as a plague. It was a scare tactic, not so much field tactic.
The knights part of this video CRACKED ME UP!!!
The mass response to the original video and the mention by Antony Cummins led me to your channel. Subbed. Don't disappoint me! ;P
The idea of rust does make me wonder though if perhaps Bronze armor was used on ships. I know iron armor is perfectly viable but oil is expensive and it's time consuming to apply. Also it's heavier weight would be a little troublesome on the moving deck of a ship.
Great video! However, wasn't the murder stroke technique used with a sword to strike helmets with the quillons? This again sounds more like 15th century plate armored knight combat instead of 11th century knights.
Wouldn’t being basically naked help? Each time I’m cold I’m more awake and alert
I’ve heard of mail being transported in barrels of lard. Not sure about VA but it was a way
Hey SnapJelly, realy like the video (although the topic itself seems to be somewhat moot :-D)
There are just two things I'd like to add. You mention the 'viking' might wear a spectacle helmet and I realy doubt that. These helmets were pretty outdated in the 11th century. They were crafted from several pieces of metal and riveted together. By the time we're talking about they used nasal helmets made from one solid piece... and most likely mail collars fixed to the nasal part.
You also seem to be quite shure about the.... skandinavian warrior would use a center-grip round shield. He might, but he does not have to. The kite shield had begun to replace the round shield. There must have been a reason for that. I never had much oppotunity to use the kite shield so I dont know for shure, but I believe in a battle line it does a much better job. In a single combat however the round shield may be the better choice, becaue... what you said (i believe you did that in the 2nd vid).
So, if he knew what he is up to, he might actualy choose the shield accordingly. Same goes for the knight and the samurai of course. I believe the knowledge that you will be facing one (or two) opponents and not go into a full-scale battle might change the outfit drastically. Especialy the samurai might alter his choices a lot, knowing he does not get a horse.
Another important point could be the origin of the knight. If he is english, we might have quite a bit of trouble to distinguish him from the "viking". European knights and scandinavian warriors would sometimes not be that different, if the came from the same time, would they?
3:00 min: In the roman army, there where troops, which were armed from the roman state and hasn't armed themself with there own wealth. Since 123-122 B.C. they are armed from there military leader and not longer by themselfes. Vikings on the other hand had to armed themself and so is the question: why should an common nordic man, which has an life out of raids and battles (there was in peacetimes farmer, woodcutter and craftsman, like other man in other cultures in this time too) invest the same amount of metal - which was not cheap - for an sword, if he can buy an axe or a spear and use the rest of the metal he can buy for an any old tool, which he will use more often in peace ?
I think that swords were an objekt of prestige in the viking culture and that the normal warriors wouldn't be in metall armour and swords. ...but it is an question from which time we speak, if we speak of "the Vikings", of course. Metal will be much cheaper, if the possibilities to earn and process it will be better. I thougt at the time from 800 - 900 A.C.
When is part 2 coming?
Also. Are you uploading this at 3 or 4 in the morning?
That's dedication, my man
I don't need sleep!
... I'm guessing you just woke up recently
SnapJelly real snapjelly hours
Also about using boats and problem with armour: If it is dangerous you put it of during trip and put it on closer to the shore.
When he says they are untrained I’d say that they had formulated a dozen techniques for armed and unarmed combat their was a reason all of Europe feared them, because they were highly trained and a competent fighting force when it came to warfare tactics
As one who love both MatPat and Snap Jelly this is difficult for me to watch, which I do with great pleasure
One thing people don't seem know is that padded clothing provides a lot of protection against cuts.
hey are you dutch? i love your vids :)
yea I am
haha ik hoorde het. blijf zo door gaan :D
Hey there. There are a few mentions of gambesons, leather gambesons and what might be translated as lamellar armor ("spangabrynja" in the viking sagas, though
Oops. Hit the wrong key before I finished... Anyway, there are some (admittedly tenuous) sources for certain types of leather armor and gambeson, but the evidence is slim.
Poor Vikings can conquer the medieval castles. Produce modern quality steel for Ulfberht swords. They can navigate in all conditions. But no one has yet overcome human ignorance. Thanks jelly for straightening this. :D Zajebisty materiał !!!
paris was lightly guarded?
Vikings also managed to defeat large Saxon armies in the field and take massive amounts of Saxon land
We know a bit of how the Norsk fought, particularly their strategic tactics. And... they were pretty damned good. That's why so many people were freaked out by them, and why they won SO many battles. Alfred was called, "the Great", because he successfully came out even with the Vikings.
Cornered Fox Oh yeah, that was a popular way to gain fame and money for Viking youths, when raiding opportunities were getting scarce.
you are kind of right about most of it and it takes very little time to check it. what i find more disturbing is the fact that the game actually depicts nudist vikings an knights wearing full armor from the 14th century and long swords from the 13th century. it is like the game does not drag historically accurate 11th century warriors
When Skallagrim, Shadiversity, Metatron and Snap Jelly all agree that you're wrong, *you're wrong*!
Awesome dude! are you Dutch? I am Dutch myself and thought you sounded Dutch. In any case you do a good reply that is proudly up there with the one's from Skal, the Metatron and Shad!! gonna watch more of your stuff now xd
types of armor found in scandinavia that dates back to a viking age
lamellar(metal or some type of refined leather)
mail
and most likely types of some padded armor
The funniest part is, I got a "For Honor" ad on this..
Hey snap I can't believe I forgotten ur channel but do you think you can do a video on some of the heros of for honor like warden an the recent warmonger
Thanks for giving the viking a credit that was well deserved. They were the first know people to use crucible steel and while it may have not been for every weapon then it should at least give enough insight to their knowledge of crafting weapons. not to mention they can be given credit for creating the martial art called glima (combat grappling) that had trips and hip tosses AND even submissions way before any form of judo or jiu-jitsu.
3:24 not all over the world, exeptions go to america wich had practically no use of steel at the time, and japan in wich case ther was use of it, a lot, but not on the mass-production side of the game, it was more like something fairly expensive to get and forge. still, for the sake of defending the vikings that doesn't matter
Got into the game, and the opening mentions how they have been fighting each other for a millennia. That really changes up the entire situation significantly.
14:00 Spears are polearms too
Hell, that Matpat boy just feels too compelled to talk stuff he knows jackshit about, and Jack did move out of town... Honestly, he should stay with "Is Mario a communist" tipe of content ;)
I like those kind of videos a lot tbh
So do I, but like I told, he should stay a mile away from certain toppics...
type*
I'm not sure I really remember that video but I feel confident that he didn't know much about that either
Just one look at Wikipedia's entry on Viking Age arms and armour should have been enough to dissuade MatPat from making some of those statements.
"According to Heimskringla, one hundred Vikings appeared "in coats of ring-mail, and in foreign helmets" at the Battle of Nesjar[38] in 1016."
While Wikipedia is not an authority, there's a reference. And 1016... hmm. That's 11th century, isn't it?
on the hardened leather, as far as i know one chest piece was found in a burial though most experts seem to think it was traded for rather than domestically produced.
doubt it, since leather rots away
+SnapJelly www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?39721-Viking-lamellar-no-more here's a link to info on the piece, don't assume I'm talking out of my ass I'm just a fan trying to help, like you asked for in the video.
Once I was an adventurer but when I rushed into the battlefeld blindly, I took an arrow to the nee and colapsed;P #logic
that shirt looks fantastic lol. not the only thing i got from the video, but it is a good shirt
The light sarcasm is enjoyable
Fun fact. By my knowledge the word berserker comes from the "bear shirted", and they were not some mushroom munching nudist shield biters, but the first calls in legal matters and combat related representatives of the lords and wealthy.
don't forget the Ulbert sword
*clank* "That's 1.6 kg for ya!"... "You did something?"...
I came here through metatrons channel. Really good video mate.
Btw are you Dutch?
yes
SnapJelly haha dacht ik al. Het Nederlandse accent is vrij uniek XD
Leuk kanaal heb je man.
Legionaries didnt paid their equipment, that guys lived before the Marian reform (hastati, princeps and triari)
Anyway nice video
was waiting on this
I'm surprised that you didn't bring up the Viking's siege of Paris.
One point bothers me, the sentence you said: A sword to the helmet with mail and padding underneath it doesn't do anything.
Have you ever been hit with a sword to the helmet? It might be right that a strike to the head of person with a helmet is not an effective way because helmets mostly are designed to deflect a sword, but still, this one time i got a direct hit to the helmet with a padding underneath like 2cm thick, it damn hurt. Not like cutting hurt or smashing hut, but i was confused, also because of my limited sight in my Great Helm it did not know what happened. This few seconds of "daze" more like a confusion, is enough for a finishing strike beneath the Helmet, or in the Armpits, below the belly where ever your armour is weak.
So be sure, a hit to the helmet can cost your life, its definitly not "nothing"
Sorry one point i forgot....except the point above, GREAT VIDEO. I like most of your videos a lot because they are mostly very well researched and accurate. I can only speak of my "field experience" as an exhibtion fighter and technician in medival fighting styles, but most of the less known historical parts are not known to me
I'm just curious here, but how did you get your expertise? You are very knowledgeable about a wide variety of time periods, cultures and styles of weapons. Did you learn all this just from reading, training and participation in HEMA or do you have formal education in this area?
maybe i-m wrong, but i thought that after the marian reform the state paid for the weapons and armor of the legionnaires.
8:30, yes MatPat if you run into someone who is better trained and doesn't panic you're screwed. Because they are BETTER TRAINED than you.
He said that wealthy vikings would have a seax, but were seaxes actually as expensive as he implies?
Game Theorist has seen way too many medieval movies. Where swords cut through mail armor and steel plate like it's aluminum foil.
This almost makes me think Matt was trying to be clever "oh look at me, i'm dismantling the uber masculine stereotype of the badass viking warrior, they were really shit". While at the same time, seemingly ignoring the simple fact that if Viking really were as bad as he claims, they couldn't possibly BE as historically imfamous as they are. Great vid Snapjelly.
i fucking knew this would be made lol
First Shad, now Snap. This is getting interesting...
I wonder if MatPat will soon make a video acknowledging his mistakes.
Vitor Rodrigues He made a comment saying that he stands by his conclusion.
If you smack someone in the head with a sword I'm pretty sure he'd be unconscious, the armour is only going to defend against cuts.
vikings also have another great reason not to go overboord. that water is fucking cold and will kill you or severely harm you.