Absolutely. The reason being in many countries in Europe you can register those bikes and ride them on public roads. Makes everything more convenient and gives you much more freedom. With motocross bikes you are pretty much stuck on motocross tracks or very specific areas. You have to own a trailer too.
People are buying supermotos , not really enduros. They should build a reliable twin cylinder supermoto with a highway gear like the old Aprilia , to seperate them from the pack.
Agreed, but give them some time to develop their product ,and they're in the right arena for that ,yet a 300cc 2 stroke triumph enduro bike all bad in black ?? Yeah I would have one
@@vaenii5056 We was able to license and ride the Enduro 2-strokes in America but not anymore? I think it's due to those dang Euro 4 emissions standards! I'm shocked America even puts up with those emissions standards! This new Triumph 250 4 stroke looks to be built well. Hopefully the ones that go on the market for sale are built this well.
If Steve McQueen had this bike he would have made the jump over the high fence in the Great Escape... Rob, this bike is promising and I cant wait to test one out.
Having another top of the line band available is only going to help the off-road riding community. I hope Triumph introduces enduro and dual-sport lines as well 👍
With the 3 years of development going back to the drawing board for a totally new , fresh factory quality bespoke design with that great frame and brand new engine, don't write it off but next year any gremlins or weaknesses will be sorted out. I've worked on CNC and worked in aircraft parts manufacture and not only will the parts made be u p to ISO9001 but the precision, design and thought that's gone into it with top universities, engineers and racers plus their experience in Moto 2 just shows that triumph staff are not just capable of making a reliable top quality competitive bike but already those race engines and their design will have been thoroughly hammered on the track as a pre production model and most of the weaknesses will have been sorted out. Plus those top racers with so much experience at the very top like Carmichael are no mugs and clearly will want to develop a bike they would race themselves plus 3 years and the big budget and publicity means that it has to be similar to Honda Yamaha and the very best European dirt bikes.
It is really beautiful and I've been excited about it. For me only the Crighton CR700 rotary race bike has shocked me so much. Now that is British engineering at it's very best . Maybe get Allan Millyard to design the motor.
I wonder if they will do a 350f and a 300 enduro? That's the seller right now. Looks amazing, though, and the quality parts are what the consumer wants. Can't wait to see how they compare to what's already in the market.
I mean KTM, Husqvarna and Gas Gas are all owned by the KTM group nowadays. Obviously the bikes are essentially the same. However there are still TM, Beta and Sherco that make enduro bikes that are not KTMs with a different name and color scheme. Recently also Fantic and Rieju have joined the game.
@@PatricioGarcia1973 they are not. They bought the old gas gas factory and all their parts so what they are making is the gas gas before KTM bought them
Steve McQueen rode Triumphs. Triumph are a huge brand and have been from the real glory days of motorcycling when almost everybody had a motorbike. Really pumped to have them join the dirt bike scene and don’t worry guys enduros and 450’s are in the pipeline 🇬🇧
I learned my lesson with buying new brand bikes, The cannondale 450 comes to memory as does the Husberg 450, Ill wait to make sure there will be parts available
The bike seems very promising! I like to see that they seemed to really tried to make a good bike with a lot of the features the community likes! Off to a good start, imo
Triumph makes good stuff, we'll see how it performs. Price is reasonable for a good bike with quality components. I guess you could buy a Japanese bike for less and spend $4000 on it to get it where you want....
Very cool... I'm excited to learn more and see how this bike progress over its first race season... triumph sure seems all in to succeed with this beautiful machine.
Does it have a backup camera too? Good grief. What is happening with all the tech... ruining the sport. Traction control in my neck of the woods is called a clutch. Etcetera.
I think the new triumph is super cool... it's something all on its own... hehe I predict that the first one to make a youtube complaining video. is an armican dirtbike dude....things i hated about my new triumph dirtbike...
With a quick shifter it's not just you don't use the clutch, you also dont have to roll off the throttle. You can hold it wide open and just bang up shifts.
Two things about this bike surprised me. The level of components for the price. When a company says they are using the best parts. It's the end user paying the premium. The second was only a five speed transmission. Perhaps this bike really has outstanding torque?
Great to see a new manufacturer entering the market. I like all of the quality components Triumph used in production of the bike. Can't wait to see the 450. After all of the teaser videos and talk it is finally great to see this bike in production. A 350 like the KTM would have been a neat bike also. Can't wait to see your riding impression and review. I assume they will probably introduce dual sport bikes based off of the production mx bikes. A lot of possibilities down the road for different models
I have been riding Triumph for a while. I have never felt a Japanese bike that can compare to the quality of the build. The feel of the levers, the smoothness of the throttle, the handling, all great. I hope this continues with this MX bike.
Euro bikes have soul. Jap bikes are mass produced by robots. The frame welds on an Italian Husky I owned were made by a craftsman, I’d just sit in the shop and appreciate the skill. You’d never see welds so good on a Jap bike!
Nice video as always 🥂 The bike looks very nice, Colors are different for once and all the top end added part is a good initiative of them. Must be very interesting riding the bike. The mode buttons on the left is great, paired with the holeshot device on the of the front fender is awesome. Bikes look always better with custom graphics. Like to see you try one soon. Keep up the good work, always like your videos 💪🤟
The KYB forks on my 2020 beta were harsh garbage. A good ride is all in the tuning. This bike looks sick though, really excited to see more brands coming to American SX/MX. Hopefully it will make the Japanese brands hit the R&D again.
i love the KYB on my 21 Beta Racing. For Hardenduro I turnt the rebound up and the compression down. Putting the fork further up in the triple clamps also helps in rough terrain, since the KYB does stay pretty high. Even if I go to a local (not too crazy) MX track i can easly ride it on the harder settings. However the racing isn't for everyone since you need to go a certain speed to make it work properly. It could be a bit softer if I only did hard stuff but since I go to the track from time to time I won't revalve it. It impresses me how far you can tune it just with the clickers.
Really enjoy your positivity. A little dissapointed you can't see that it's a KTM motor. They have obviously tweaked it as Ricky said they wanted more low end, so diff compression ratio, cams, tweaked clutch and also a different ECU and injection setup. But it's clearly KTM. And that's a good thing because a new engine would have had issues.
I rode Triumph 650 in the late 70's and it was a very light and easy to live with.......just leaked oil out of every pore. This little motocross Triumph looks great to me. A lot of good stuff hanging on it........hope the frame is well-sorted.
This is gonna get interesting with the rise of electric bikes and good Chinese bikes. The Japanese brands are gonna be stuck in the middle of the market.
If they keep being complacent and getting comfy riding on the coat tail of their glory days they're going to be caught with their pants down by the Chinese. And when that happens it'll probably be too late.🤦♂️
I'm not going to be happy until I see Aprilia and Cagiva get back in the game. Possibly get Vertematti Bros to mod out the factory bikes. While we're on the subject, let's dial it back on the 4 Stroke nonsense. I'm getting bored watching these tractor pulls when I could be watching racing.
@@frankyweaponsI know they don't exist but you know the motorcycle industry. It's like the MCU. One superhero gets killed then somehow gets resurrected and overpowered. I'm sure there's enough leftover R&D between Moto Morini and Ducati to at least bring back the name. MV already did it and somehow, someone was stupid enough to sprinkle Dracula's blood on Indian yet again. As for Aprilia they had 2 major attempts in the dirt. They did win 9 Chips as the underdog and the latter attempt was banned by the AMA for being a V-Twin. They say it was due to emissions but we all know that's bullshit. The Big 4 were paying someone off. I'd be happy to at least see a 250. 4 stroke or 2 stroke. Even if they don't make waves in motocross, how awesome would it be to have that twin MXV 450 back? Even as a play bike, top 10 imo.
It's a sick bike and if the riders are already talking about the handling and the power to the ground being awesome, there's no telling how much better it can get. Out of the crate is has every bell and whistle. Now enter the all star cast. Everyone involved is the best of the best. Ricky would not have his name in it if he wasn't confident it would be great. Enter Bobby Hewitt. I know Bobby would not have come off of his 5 year hiatus if he didn't think this was the right deal for him or a team he could win on. Since his Extreme Team Green days, to Suzuki, KTM and then Husqvarna, he's the master of taking mediocre teams and turned them around and winning championships. He's one of those guys that just doesn't know how to fail so if he has an all NEW platform to work from and a hand picked team, I say watch out. He's brutally honest so if he says they will be ready to go racing in January, I would tend to believe him.
well it is a little bit too early to tell, if it‘s 🔝 or flop … we will see, in the near future, what this bike is capable of. A good move would be to hire some pro rider and see what kind of results this bike can achieve on the field … because, at the end of the day, only the track can tell … not the commercial, not the promo videos … on the paper the bike sounds good … honestly, almost too good to be true … but let‘s wait and see!
If triumph comes out with a two-stroke that's when I might try one out . The picture where they're showing the frame the weld's look kind of shitty. It seems like they were teaching welding class at their shop😂
What he didn’t say is the engine produces 51 HP…ktm & kawi only produce 45ish…that is SIGNIFICANT for a 250…I’ve been wanting a mixture of Austrian and Japanese bikes…motor & hydraulic clutch of ktm, yet suspension of Yamaha…and the engine of 51 horses…aftermarket wheels already…I hope it lives up to the hype as I will get one or two…😂
I am an old stool Desert racer, from the mid 1970’s-mid 1990’s and I am against all this electronic crap, traction control, quick shifters and the like. We used to have all ‘dead engine starts’ and I last raced a 1986 XR600R bored out to a 730cc and trust me it was not easy to start unless warmed up a bit. None of this dandy crap, just 12” of travel front and rear suspension and 250 miles of desert to cover every 2 weeks from February to December each year. So, let’s get back to wrenching on your own ride, and run what you bring!
My parents bought me and my brother YZ 250's Christmas of 1980,,,,my Bike was a 79, but brand new , my brothers was 1980 model,,,,,800.00 Dollars for mine and 1,100 for my Brothers
To me this was a bizarre move. Triumph had something that was an anomaly in the market, most of their products were big, bigger bore twins.. so what is the problem w Kawasaki? Who knows..had the Ninja, Versys twin .no bike instead a real dog..Versys 300.heavy..Yamaha Tenere 700 same thing..big enough for highway miles but way too heavy for off road.. and now Honda has the 750.. and again another old man bike.. enough power for the road but too heavy for off-road..Kove trying w a bigger single but like everyone else..singles are too buzzy for long road miles..now Triumph has a motorcross bike..a single.. so race it but it's not going to be adventure or dual sport..I guess they can go bigger bore..450-500 but why? Honda and KTM ,Husky already make decent off road dual sports that shake your bones and dental work loose if you ride more than 2 hours of freeway.. Suzuki.. just shed weight on the DRZ and bigger motor. just don't understand why a 500-700 twin with low weight..350 is so impossible
You don't have to let off the throttle and pull in the clutch every time you shift gears, and I'm talking about the older model two strokes, you can just hold the throttle wide open and just shift through the gears, I did it on my 1982 Yamaha YZ80 and my 1986 Kawasaki KX80.
Good video Rado, look its better than I expected on PAPER, lets see if it is as good as it looks in the real world, sure it will be with the time and effort gone in! I probably was one of those critical it would be a cookie cutter copy, also glad it isnt for the sake of the motocross industry more than Triumph, but its good work so congrats to them! I still believe with the likes of Fantic who have a 250 GP and 450 GP team headed by a real top 5 rider, 4th in MXGP overall last year and 2 time MXDN outright individual winner in Glenn Coldenhoff, plus Beta and now Ducati entering full on will crowd the market and to sell, imo 450 class with a legit rider gives them a leg up, that said some will say more development time, but with those 3 brands they are developing in the best environment racing! With Savatgy not racing the 250 SX that's a buzz kill, not that I think he should be able, I'm frankly sick of past riders stepping down to the 250s to steal a title or just hanging out in the 250 class for a payday. Racers race, race or get out and do something else! 250 class is a feeder class, its not like the old 125/250/500 class's that were legitimate men's class's regardless of CC. So Triumph, good work, it will now be interesting to see the Ducati! None of these bikes are in my market wheelhouse however! I said that on one of your OG videos on Triumph, I am not the target market!. That said a bike has come up and frankly the price doesn't even scare m because its the bike that I always wanted Honda, Yamaha, Kawi, Suzuki to make and I have been saying since the late 90s when we owned fuel injected Yamaha outboard speed boats when I raced MX 250 class and wake boarded and water skied my arse off every weekend in summers! It was non sensical that Honda or Yamaha or Kawasaki that invented the Jetski couldn't developed a fuel injected 2 stroke MX engine, it wasn't capability it was will or lack of it! It took KTM and others! BUT, if you haven't seen 999lazers video recently on this bike, WATCH IT. Shameless plug here, no one does more to promote 2t than this dude, but its def worth checking if you are a 2stroke fan.th-cam.com/video/NBFHQVd0dwU/w-d-xo.html This bike excites me more than any bike since my 1993 CR250 and 06 YZ250. I'm putting down the greens on this thing even if its just to sit in my man cave, I don't care. This is the bike technology the Japanese should have developed decades ago, I said it then and say it now we got robbed of an era! For more info on the T500 - tomasinracing.net/product/eng... Good video thanks Rado, keep it up, best vid on the Triumph release I have seen. ps I do hope you get one to test, its important that someone whos a real weekend warrior gets to give us feedback on the 250X, btw the way that's weird, why 250 X, why not 250R, R is for racing, X is usually for X country? That's weird to me and a miss esp if they branch out to X country or Enduro?
I mean it's cool ig.. Triumph and soon Ducati, but I have a hard time imagining them doing better than Honda/Yamaha/KTM (Husky, Gas Gas)/Kawasaki/Suzuki/TM/Sherco/Beta
Why do people call Kayaba, KYB? It sounds bloody awful! Likewise White Power, WP? What's the obsession with abreviating everything to some crappy initials? At least glad to see Oakley starting to use full name again a bit more often.
Remember when KTM was last in every magazine shoot out and now they are in the mix! Triumph will get there, but I concur on the enduro comments. As a Triumph street bike owner quite stoked about it. McQueen is smiling down at us!
Hand welded chassis isn't an improvement over robotic welding but Uglier & Less Uniform most of the time! The welds on that Triumph look like Pigeon Crap!
I'm absolutely not convinced Triumph build their own engine. You mention this in the video, on what is this comment based ? Have you been able to take one apart ?
The wheel hubs do not appear to be a solid billet hub. They are a cast hub that has been machined on the center, you can tell by the outside of the hub its cast...
Interesting choice going with the aluminum frame. Personally, it’s hands down the best looking bike on the market. In the months prior to this release, Ricky’s demeanor showed he wasn’t feeling it at all. Today it shows he’s pumped. That tells me that Ricky put knuckles on the brass and Triumphs executives answered the call. I’m hoping the AMA will write an exemption to the rule keeping Savatgy out of 250 SX. Maybe something too the effect of, riders competing on a new brand get a one year extension. New brands don’t happen often so this rule will seldomly be used.
@@chokeizmummm that is Husqvarna. While it’s been a white Ktm since 14 and rather a sub brand 1988-2013, they kind of have a storied and iconic Mx history. You should research it
@@jamessharp9790 I agree that if you're a fan of motorcycles in general & especially MX or SX you should most definitely look at the storied history of Husqvarna motorcycles! I'd venture to say that it's the white plastic and probably the black and funky looking green or yellow that makes this Triumph resemble a modern Husqvarna,nonetheless I'm a fan of KTM as well as Husqvarna's both pre 2014 and current Husqvarna. The very first thing that makes this great looking Triumph not a Husqvarna is the fact that it's an aluminum frame and not chromoly and the sub frame isn't aluminum but polymide plastic.
They look solid some great parts plus a modded version pulled hole shots can't wait for a comp vid. Kyb sus YZ 2 stroke looking chassis frame. Probably a good bike
It's definitely a cool bike but they need to come out with an enduro and dual sport versions ...that's where the market is!!
dirtbike is forbidden everywhere...what do you want to do with it? (I have 3 at home, used to ride all the time since 40 years, now? forget it...)
@@alex-rx2vu you just proved my point
@@alex-rx2vuif you want to unload the 3 you have I might be a player! I have a speed boat 🚤 that I don't use!...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸👋🤠
@@alex-rx2vu Come out to western Colorado. We'll put those dirt bikes to good use.
@@j.j.3391 thanks for the invitation i wished i could..one day may be
It looks like a typical dirt bike but with a twist performance will tell how good it is thank you for this video 👍
They spent so much money on Carmicheal that they couldn't afford decent riders.
Def looks ktm
If they want to survive they better get working on a enduro/ hard scramble bike. That's where the volume is right now.
Absolutely.
The reason being in many countries in Europe you can register those bikes and ride them on public roads. Makes everything more convenient and gives you much more freedom.
With motocross bikes you are pretty much stuck on motocross tracks or very specific areas. You have to own a trailer too.
They have off road bikes coming supposedly. No 2t models that I've heard of.
People are buying supermotos , not really enduros.
They should build a reliable twin cylinder supermoto with a highway gear like the old Aprilia , to seperate them from the pack.
Agreed, but give them some time to develop their product ,and they're in the right arena for that ,yet a 300cc 2 stroke triumph enduro bike all bad in black ??
Yeah I would have one
@@vaenii5056 We was able to license and ride the Enduro 2-strokes in America but not anymore?
I think it's due to those dang Euro 4 emissions standards! I'm shocked America even puts up with those emissions standards!
This new Triumph 250 4 stroke looks to be built well. Hopefully the ones that go on the market for sale are built this well.
If Steve McQueen had this bike he would have made the jump over the high fence in the Great Escape... Rob, this bike is promising and I cant wait to test one out.
Or Bud Eakins might have?
Right and he would too.🤠@@williamrae9954
Yep👍
Dude... Im about to watch this movie first time today and then I see this comment xd
You mean both fences? It was Bud Ekin, a stuntman and motocrosser that made the jump
Very cool
But I was hoping for a 2 stroke
Having another top of the line band available is only going to help the off-road riding community. I hope Triumph introduces enduro and dual-sport lines as well 👍
Very impressive looking bike. Once their 450 comes out I just might be considering a new bike if it's good as they say it is.
With the 3 years of development going back to the drawing board for a totally new , fresh factory quality bespoke design with that great frame and brand new engine, don't write it off but next year any gremlins or weaknesses will be sorted out. I've worked on CNC and worked in aircraft parts manufacture and not only will the parts made be u p to ISO9001 but the precision, design and thought that's gone into it with top universities, engineers and racers plus their experience in Moto 2 just shows that triumph staff are not just capable of making a reliable top quality competitive bike but already those race engines and their design will have been thoroughly hammered on the track as a pre production model and most of the weaknesses will have been sorted out. Plus those top racers with so much experience at the very top like Carmichael are no mugs and clearly will want to develop a bike they would race themselves plus 3 years and the big budget and publicity means that it has to be similar to Honda Yamaha and the very best European dirt bikes.
It is really beautiful and I've been excited about it. For me only the Crighton CR700 rotary race bike has shocked me so much. Now that is British engineering at it's very best . Maybe get Allan Millyard to design the motor.
The "brand new" engine is straight up not true
@@goofheesakkers1810 KTM engine😝
I wonder if they will do a 350f and a 300 enduro? That's the seller right now. Looks amazing, though, and the quality parts are what the consumer wants. Can't wait to see how they compare to what's already in the market.
I mean KTM, Husqvarna and Gas Gas are all owned by the KTM group nowadays. Obviously the bikes are essentially the same.
However there are still TM, Beta and Sherco that make enduro bikes that are not KTMs with a different name and color scheme. Recently also Fantic and Rieju have joined the game.
..also there's CCM too
You cant forget the yamaha X series either.
The rieju is the old gas gas isn't it
Rieju is KTM also
@@PatricioGarcia1973 they are not. They bought the old gas gas factory and all their parts so what they are making is the gas gas before KTM bought them
It looks like a great bike, but not as great as that gorgeous yz 125 behind you
Steve McQueen rode Triumphs. Triumph are a huge brand and have been from the real glory days of motorcycling when almost everybody had a motorbike. Really pumped to have them join the dirt bike scene and don’t worry guys enduros and 450’s are in the pipeline 🇬🇧
That's when they was British made
@@vincentmckenna1755 Quite a few are still made in hinckley, leicestershire. I worked there briefly.
I learned my lesson with buying new brand bikes, The cannondale 450 comes to memory as does the Husberg 450, Ill wait to make sure there will be parts available
Still got a Husaberg FE390
parts adb ameri dirtbike
Husaberg was the best
Triumph are not a new brand!
The bike seems very promising! I like to see that they seemed to really tried to make a good bike with a lot of the features the community likes! Off to a good start, imo
could be the privateers choice , a bit like the maico 440 back in 78 !
Triumph makes good stuff, we'll see how it performs. Price is reasonable for a good bike with quality components. I guess you could buy a Japanese bike for less and spend $4000 on it to get it where you want....
Very cool... I'm excited to learn more and see how this bike progress over its first race season... triumph sure seems all in to succeed with this beautiful machine.
Let’s hope they make an off road version……how is the WR450 coming along
Does it have a backup camera too? Good grief. What is happening with all the tech... ruining the sport. Traction control in my neck of the woods is called a clutch. Etcetera.
I think the new triumph is super cool... it's something all on its own... hehe I predict that the first one to make a youtube complaining video. is an armican dirtbike dude....things i hated about my new triumph dirtbike...
I'm so afraid of electronic stuff.. Once something goes wrong, everything else gets wrong.
Hope this is a super well designed and assembled diagrams!
I wanna see more about the 97 yz in the background
I’ve never used the clutch when shifting up on any bike. It’s weird that people even do that lol
Same here unless I’m pottering I’ve crash gearboxed it from the age of 7 on my kx80 , 35 now still do the same but not on an 80 😂
With a quick shifter it's not just you don't use the clutch, you also dont have to roll off the throttle. You can hold it wide open and just bang up shifts.
@@everettbranscom6536 ooh ok. That’s pretty sick then
Hope it's not the same old parts Triumph problems..no parts and high prices.
I'll just keep riding my 03 cr250 that's STROKED by TERRY VARNER no payments still can go fast and style n whip on a oldie
Two things about this bike surprised me. The level of components for the price.
When a company says they are using the best parts. It's the end user paying the premium.
The second was only a five speed transmission. Perhaps this bike really has outstanding torque?
What current motocross bikes doesnt have 5 gears?
@@omnibud2708 honda doesn't. Though the last new mx bike I brought many moons ago were all 6 speeds.
If it cranks runs 5 minutes without springing oil leak I will be shocked
So it's just coincidence the engine looks identical to a '22 ktm 250?
this thing sounds insane, sounds like all the pros from the yamaha with the pros of a ktm, hope the engine is good aswell
Whats nice about the Triumph is, if you're a little behind, you have enough buttons to press in a cheat code.
Great to see a new manufacturer entering the market. I like all of the quality components Triumph used in production of the bike. Can't wait to see the 450.
After all of the teaser videos and talk it is finally great to see this bike in production.
A 350 like the KTM would have been a neat bike also.
Can't wait to see your riding impression and review.
I assume they will probably introduce dual sport bikes based off of the production mx bikes.
A lot of possibilities down the road for different models
My atc 250r has traction controls its called throttle, clutch and brakes.Lol.
Where is this bike manufactured?
I have been riding Triumph for a while. I have never felt a Japanese bike that can compare to the quality of the build. The feel of the levers, the smoothness of the throttle, the handling, all great. I hope this continues with this MX bike.
Euro bikes have soul.
Jap bikes are mass produced by robots. The frame welds on an Italian Husky I owned were made by a craftsman, I’d just sit in the shop and appreciate the skill. You’d never see welds so good on a Jap bike!
😂
Nice video as always 🥂
The bike looks very nice, Colors are different for once and all the top end added part is a good initiative of them. Must be very interesting riding the bike.
The mode buttons on the left is great, paired with the holeshot device on the of the front fender is awesome.
Bikes look always better with custom graphics.
Like to see you try one soon.
Keep up the good work, always like your videos 💪🤟
The KYB forks on my 2020 beta were harsh garbage. A good ride is all in the tuning. This bike looks sick though, really excited to see more brands coming to American SX/MX. Hopefully it will make the Japanese brands hit the R&D again.
The KYBs on my 21 300 Beta Race Edition weren't good at all until a simple revalving was done on them... Now they are magic.
Did not like
the action on my 2019 kyb aoss forks fitted to gas gas enduro.
i love the KYB on my 21 Beta Racing. For Hardenduro I turnt the rebound up and the compression down. Putting the fork further up in the triple clamps also helps in rough terrain, since the KYB does stay pretty high. Even if I go to a local (not too crazy) MX track i can easly ride it on the harder settings. However the racing isn't for everyone since you need to go a certain speed to make it work properly. It could be a bit softer if I only did hard stuff but since I go to the track from time to time I won't revalve it. It impresses me how far you can tune it just with the clickers.
Really enjoy your positivity. A little dissapointed you can't see that it's a KTM motor. They have obviously tweaked it as Ricky said they wanted more low end, so diff compression ratio, cams, tweaked clutch and also a different ECU and injection setup. But it's clearly KTM. And that's a good thing because a new engine would have had issues.
It's a nice looking bike.Can't wait to see how it compares it The MX Action Shoot-Out!
WELDS LIKE CHICKEN SHYTE ON A PERCH
Mettalic chartreause would be cool
I rode Triumph 650 in the late 70's and it was a very light and easy to live with.......just leaked oil out of every pore. This little motocross Triumph looks great to me. A lot of good stuff hanging on it........hope the frame is well-sorted.
hope so too Tom, we shall see soon!
This is gonna get interesting with the rise of electric bikes and good Chinese bikes.
The Japanese brands are gonna be stuck in the middle of the market.
If they keep being complacent and getting comfy riding on the coat tail of their glory days they're going to be caught with their pants down by the Chinese.
And when that happens it'll probably be too late.🤦♂️
It looks pretty good....on paper. I hope it matches the hype.
I'm not going to be happy until I see Aprilia and Cagiva get back in the game. Possibly get Vertematti Bros to mod out the factory bikes.
While we're on the subject, let's dial it back on the 4 Stroke nonsense. I'm getting bored watching these tractor pulls when I could be watching racing.
I agree with that. 4-strokes get boring and you know racing a 4-choke makes racing a lot easier and quite boring! 2-strokes rule the roost period!
cagiva doesnt exist anymore, also aprillia tried motocross bikes in the 2010s and didnt succeed as expected, i doubt they will be back at this
@@frankyweaponsI know they don't exist but you know the motorcycle industry. It's like the MCU. One superhero gets killed then somehow gets resurrected and overpowered. I'm sure there's enough leftover R&D between Moto Morini and Ducati to at least bring back the name. MV already did it and somehow, someone was stupid enough to sprinkle Dracula's blood on Indian yet again.
As for Aprilia they had 2 major attempts in the dirt. They did win 9 Chips as the underdog and the latter attempt was banned by the AMA for being a V-Twin. They say it was due to emissions but we all know that's bullshit. The Big 4 were paying someone off. I'd be happy to at least see a 250. 4 stroke or 2 stroke. Even if they don't make waves in motocross, how awesome would it be to have that twin MXV 450 back? Even as a play bike, top 10 imo.
It's a sick bike and if the riders are already talking about the handling and the power to the ground being awesome, there's no telling how much better it can get. Out of the crate is has every bell and whistle. Now enter the all star cast. Everyone involved is the best of the best. Ricky would not have his name in it if he wasn't confident it would be great. Enter Bobby Hewitt. I know Bobby would not have come off of his 5 year hiatus if he didn't think this was the right deal for him or a team he could win on. Since his Extreme Team Green days, to Suzuki, KTM and then Husqvarna, he's the master of taking mediocre teams and turned them around and winning championships. He's one of those guys that just doesn't know how to fail so if he has an all NEW platform to work from and a hand picked team, I say watch out. He's brutally honest so if he says they will be ready to go racing in January, I would tend to believe him.
well it is a little bit too early to tell, if it‘s 🔝 or flop … we will see, in the near future, what this bike is capable of.
A good move would be to hire some pro rider and see what kind of results this bike can achieve on the field … because, at the end of the day, only the track can tell … not the commercial, not the promo videos … on the paper the bike sounds good … honestly, almost too good to be true … but let‘s wait and see!
If triumph comes out with a two-stroke that's when I might try one out . The picture where they're showing the frame the weld's look kind of shitty. It seems like they were teaching welding class at their shop😂
What he didn’t say is the engine produces 51 HP…ktm & kawi only produce 45ish…that is SIGNIFICANT for a 250…I’ve been wanting a mixture of Austrian and Japanese bikes…motor & hydraulic clutch of ktm, yet suspension of Yamaha…and the engine of 51 horses…aftermarket wheels already…I hope it lives up to the hype as I will get one or two…😂
I am an old stool Desert racer, from the mid 1970’s-mid 1990’s and I am against all this electronic crap, traction control, quick shifters and the like. We used to have all ‘dead engine starts’ and I last raced a 1986 XR600R bored out to a 730cc and trust me it was not easy to start unless warmed up a bit. None of this dandy crap, just 12” of travel front and rear suspension and 250 miles of desert to cover every 2 weeks from February to December each year. So, let’s get back to wrenching on your own ride, and run what you bring!
My parents bought me and my brother YZ 250's Christmas of 1980,,,,my Bike was a 79, but brand new , my brothers was 1980 model,,,,,800.00 Dollars for mine and 1,100 for my Brothers
To me this was a bizarre move. Triumph had something that was an anomaly in the market, most of their products were big, bigger bore twins.. so what is the problem w Kawasaki? Who knows..had the Ninja, Versys twin .no bike instead a real dog..Versys 300.heavy..Yamaha Tenere 700 same thing..big enough for highway miles but way too heavy for off road.. and now Honda has the 750.. and again another old man bike.. enough power for the road but too heavy for off-road..Kove trying w a bigger single but like everyone else..singles are too buzzy for long road miles..now Triumph has a motorcross bike..a single.. so race it but it's not going to be adventure or dual sport..I guess they can go bigger bore..450-500 but why? Honda and KTM ,Husky already make decent off road dual sports that shake your bones and dental work loose if you ride more than 2 hours of freeway.. Suzuki.. just shed weight on the DRZ and bigger motor. just don't understand why a 500-700 twin with low weight..350 is so impossible
You don't have to let off the throttle and pull in the clutch every time you shift gears, and I'm talking about the older model two strokes, you can just hold the throttle wide open and just shift through the gears, I did it on my 1982 Yamaha YZ80 and my 1986 Kawasaki KX80.
I was expecting greatness and it looks likely i was right. Always loved triumphs but i am British after all
Good video Rado, look its better than I expected on PAPER, lets see if it is as good as it looks in the real world, sure it will be with the time and effort gone in! I probably was one of those critical it would be a cookie cutter copy, also glad it isnt for the sake of the motocross industry more than Triumph, but its good work so congrats to them!
I still believe with the likes of Fantic who have a 250 GP and 450 GP team headed by a real top 5 rider, 4th in MXGP overall last year and 2 time MXDN outright individual winner in Glenn Coldenhoff, plus Beta and now Ducati entering full on will crowd the market and to sell, imo 450 class with a legit rider gives them a leg up, that said some will say more development time, but with those 3 brands they are developing in the best environment racing! With Savatgy not racing the 250 SX that's a buzz kill, not that I think he should be able, I'm frankly sick of past riders stepping down to the 250s to steal a title or just hanging out in the 250 class for a payday. Racers race, race or get out and do something else! 250 class is a feeder class, its not like the old 125/250/500 class's that were legitimate men's class's regardless of CC.
So Triumph, good work, it will now be interesting to see the Ducati!
None of these bikes are in my market wheelhouse however! I said that on one of your OG videos on Triumph, I am not the target market!.
That said a bike has come up and frankly the price doesn't even scare m because its the bike that I always wanted Honda, Yamaha, Kawi, Suzuki to make and I have been saying since the late 90s when we owned fuel injected Yamaha outboard speed boats when I raced MX 250 class and wake boarded and water skied my arse off every weekend in summers!
It was non sensical that Honda or Yamaha or Kawasaki that invented the Jetski couldn't developed a fuel injected 2 stroke MX engine, it wasn't capability it was will or lack of it! It took KTM and others!
BUT, if you haven't seen 999lazers video recently on this bike, WATCH IT. Shameless plug here, no one does more to promote 2t than this dude, but its def worth checking if you are a 2stroke fan.th-cam.com/video/NBFHQVd0dwU/w-d-xo.html
This bike excites me more than any bike since my 1993 CR250 and 06 YZ250. I'm putting down the greens on this thing even if its just to sit in my man cave, I don't care. This is the bike technology the Japanese should have developed decades ago, I said it then and say it now we got robbed of an era!
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Good video thanks Rado, keep it up, best vid on the Triumph release I have seen.
ps I do hope you get one to test, its important that someone whos a real weekend warrior gets to give us feedback on the 250X, btw the way that's weird, why 250 X, why not 250R, R is for racing, X is usually for X country? That's weird to me and a miss esp if they branch out to X country or Enduro?
X for Moto “Cross”
I mean it's cool ig.. Triumph and soon Ducati, but I have a hard time imagining them doing better than Honda/Yamaha/KTM (Husky, Gas Gas)/Kawasaki/Suzuki/TM/Sherco/Beta
I’m impressed. Can’t wait to see it on the track.
Why do people call Kayaba, KYB? It sounds bloody awful! Likewise White Power, WP? What's the obsession with abreviating everything to some crappy initials?
At least glad to see Oakley starting to use full name again a bit more often.
Akrapovic is pronounced A..CRAP.. OH.. VITCH...Bruno wouldn't be happy
hope they have a 2 stroke? better a sister in a wh@r#house than a brother on a 4 stroke!
Remember when KTM was last in every magazine shoot out and now they are in the mix! Triumph will get there, but I concur on the enduro comments. As a Triumph street bike owner quite stoked about it. McQueen is smiling down at us!
Hand welded chassis isn't an improvement over robotic welding but Uglier & Less Uniform most of the time! The welds on that Triumph look like Pigeon Crap!
Great looking bike! Left out the H.P. dyno report. Was just curious the difference between the other manufacturers.
Its a KTM SXF 250 engine.
Dat price seems fair, maybe more than fair if the whole package works well together.
They won’t be making an enduro/trials bike because of environmental restrictions :( they want to keep the leaking concealed to Moto tracks 😆
Are they made in England 🇬🇧? If they’re manufactured in Southeast Asia that’ll be so disappointing.
a bike with many components design parts from other manufacturer like yamaha,ktm,gasgas husqvarna combined
I'm absolutely not convinced Triumph build their own engine. You mention this in the video, on what is this comment based ? Have you been able to take one apart ?
Will a 450 be next? Saw somewhere that Ricky Carmichael was helping to develope it.
Umm, that appears to be a ktm engine.
It ain't but it sure looks a lot like their 350 four stroke.
Was there a bike in the video. Looked like a guy hogging all the camera. How about a narrator and more bike instead of borrowed Triumph footage
I’m waiting for something really new, maybe Ducati, just have to wait and see
Now, if they’d only come out with a REAL enduro bike! 🏍️🏍️🏍️
The wheel hubs do not appear to be a solid billet hub. They are a cast hub that has been machined on the center, you can tell by the outside of the hub its cast...
What a great review Rado!! Well done👏 i do not know why....but....i think that in the near future you will have one standing behind you!! 😁💯
Too much electronics. 1 sensor packs up and you out the game. I'll pass...
Never had an issue with my Triumph Daytona 955 I nice bike and fast
It's hard to take a chance on a newcomer but the brand is proven and... Price wise. That's a lot of good components 😬
All the extras are optional and bunk the price up quite a bit
This isn't a street sled. There are very few if any dealer add one for a MX bike.
The was always going to be black as everytime they go racing the bikes are always black
Sells for 11.400 Euro in Europe. Won't be very popular here.
I wonder if they will come out with two strokes? Probably not lol I dunno
😀🤣this one it just got to be for sure!!🤦♂️🖐👋⛽️⛽️⛽️
Your title is click bait . You say nothing negative about the bike
good info thanks for the insight. 👍👍👍
Hand welded? Good Lord, find a new welder. Those are horrible!!
Interesting choice going with the aluminum frame. Personally, it’s hands down the best looking bike on the market.
In the months prior to this release, Ricky’s demeanor showed he wasn’t feeling it at all. Today it shows he’s pumped. That tells me that Ricky put knuckles on the brass and Triumphs executives answered the call.
I’m hoping the AMA will write an exemption to the rule keeping Savatgy out of 250 SX.
Maybe something too the effect of, riders competing on a new brand get a one year extension.
New brands don’t happen often so this rule will seldomly be used.
haquarvana or how ever u spell it ....this looks like one of those to be honest
@@chokeizmummm that is Husqvarna. While it’s been a white Ktm since 14 and rather a sub brand 1988-2013, they kind of have a storied and iconic Mx history. You should research it
@@jamessharp9790 I agree that if you're a fan of motorcycles in general & especially MX or SX you should most definitely look at the storied history of Husqvarna motorcycles! I'd venture to say that it's the white plastic and probably the black and funky looking green or yellow that makes this Triumph resemble a modern Husqvarna,nonetheless I'm a fan of KTM as well as Husqvarna's both pre 2014 and current Husqvarna. The very first thing that makes this great looking Triumph not a Husqvarna is the fact that it's an aluminum frame and not chromoly and the sub frame isn't aluminum but polymide plastic.
the best looking bike on the market hahahaha
"Gas gas, Husky and KTM" or just KTM for short.
Great overview! Thanks brother.
Where’s the headlight and plate ? I need a woodsbike
They look solid some great parts plus a modded version pulled hole shots can't wait for a comp vid. Kyb sus YZ 2 stroke looking chassis frame. Probably a good bike
Ducati will be awesome but probably so high I wouldn't be surprised if their 450 isnt 15-17k
are they considering making a two stroke version?
Wont be a year and ktm will buy it tbh u cant lie😂😂😂😂
Triumph has a bad reputation for quality.
4 strokes suck so bad.is a 2 stroke available for men.
Bike looks gay. Ill stick with my 23 sr
Another 4 stroke fart machine…who cares.
Well congrats to triumph on their own dirtbike
Its a KTM 250SXF Engine😂